The Chiefs mess is multi-layered at this point, but these are two points the fan base is starting to grumble about.Reid is on very thin ice - lost 2 games at home, has lost playoff home field advantage ( 2 games back of NE but might not even be the 2nd best AFC team. might fail to get a playoff bye, could be an 11-5 team, having to travel in the postseason - ya never know).so who becomes Mahomes' new OC and HC in 2020? someone much less likely to pass as much, probably a run-first offense, leaving Mahomes' stats at the door. .people get so wrapped up in catchy phrases like 'generational QB', its comical.
Reid should be fired for hiring an incompetent coach like Spags in the first place.
You drafted Mahomes. Start him.I've started Mahomes all year confidently, but this week I'm seriously considering sitting him. (8 team league and I have Watson and Wilson and we start 2 QBs)
Plus, I have Tyreek...
Denver has one of the best Ds against QBs and WRs. Without Watkins, in Mile High, with injuries and weak Oline, it might be the week to bench him...talk me out of it.
I agree 100%. Definite floor game. You have 3 top 5 QBs lol..I would roll with the other 2.I've started Mahomes all year confidently, but this week I'm seriously considering sitting him. (8 team league and I have Watson and Wilson and we start 2 QBs)
Plus, I have Tyreek...
Denver has one of the best Ds against QBs and WRs. Without Watkins, in Mile High, with injuries and weak Oline, it might be the week to bench him...talk me out of it.
I drafted all 3 QBs actually and thanks, I know about the assistant coach forum (that no one really seems to participate in that often).You drafted Mahomes. Start him.
if you want advice, there’s a forum for that. (Psst - assistant coach)
Level-headed posts are rare on this forum lately. This is one of them.it's kind of funny what a couple weeks will do.....
Chiefs were 4-0 and SB contenders......now they are a train wreck, the league has figured out Mahomes....Reid and the GM should be fired...the demise of the Chiefs
Broncos were 0-4 and just barely better than MIA, WAS, and CIN....trade Von, Sanders, and Chris Harris...start that Lock kid...now they beat two ####ty teams...and they are back baby...playoff contenders, especially "if they win this one game tonight baby".....
the Chiefs very well may lose tonight and it will only add to the narrative above.....but I don't think the Chiefs are as bad as people are making it out to be....nor are the Broncos "back" like some are saying....
as far as KC goes....even if they lose tonight, they will have 10 days to get healthy.....the injuries to Fisher and Jones hurt....and yeah they can't stop the run, but they still almost won the IND and HOU game.....(the Kelce flag pick up and not changed to holding resulting in a pick totally changed that game) and we probably wouldn't be having these conversations, even tho yes the defense is bad and can't stop the run....barley had the ball and still almost beat HOU...but the defense was bad last year and they still almost made the super bowl...maybe they can make a move to bring in some help to stop the run, maybe they just healthy.....either way, a win tonight and maybe 3-4 Mahomes TD's etc will right the ship and keep people from making snap judgements and having their heads explode....
I am a chiefs fan living in CO...all the talk is that there is a "blueprint" out there....and yeah you really can't argue that....NE ran it down KC throats last year, IND and HOU some success this year as well....other teams ran well against them as well even tho KC won....I don't think HOU even punted and had like 7 drives of 10+ play drives....the inability to stop the run and that result in long clock draining drives forces KC to capitalize on every possession.....cannot turn it over or punt....especially if the other team has a guy like Watson who can convert short third or fourth downs with his legs, etc....the Chiefs are only ahead of MIA and WAS as far as time of possession.... ....while some of that can be credited to their quick strike ability, its more a reflection of their defense....I expect Fangio to go for it on some 4th downs tonight, but hopefully Flacco isn't as efficient at sustaining drives on 3rd or 4th down as Watson or Brissett were...if KC can get DEN to punt just like 3 times, I think KC can pull this one out....a couple holding penalties on Bolles/Broncos would help....Level-headed posts are rare on this forum lately. This is one of them.
Let’s hope all 4 of those TDs go to Tyreek tonight.
Denver’s D has looked better but as you mentioned, against weaker offenses/competition.
The interesting thing will be whether KC can slow down Royce/Lindsey. IMO that’s the only way Broncos win this game. A little Sutton sprinkled in, but without Sanders at 100%, and with Flacco at QB I can’t see Denver winning a shootout. Their best bet will be playing keep-away. I don’t think the Broncos have topped 24 points in a game. That’s probably not enough to beat the Chiefs since the Denver secondary isn’t that great.
If KC can get up 2 scores on the Broncos early, that’s probably a wrap. Flacco is bad at hero ball.
should be a fun game.
https://www.fantasypros.com/2019/10/the-primer-week-7-edition-2019-fantasy-football/QBs
Patrick Mahomes: Was Mahomes limited by his mobility last week? Yeah, likely. He constantly underthrew balls to his receivers, including the long touchdown to Hill where he needed to sky over a defender. This is all part of the allure with Mahomes, as he’s willing to let his receivers make a play on the ball. Against the Broncos, it’ll be a tougher task, as they’ve held all six quarterbacks they’ve played to less than 260 yards through the air. In fact, there’s been just one game where they’ve allowed more than one passing touchdown. Part of the reason they’ve accomplished those feats, though, is due to very low volume. Of the six games they’ve played, just one quarterback topped 33 pass attempts, with 4-of-6 finishing with less than 30 pass attempts. You do have to look at the quarterbacks they’ve played knowing it’s a small sample size but seeing Aaron Rodgers and Phillip Rivers on that list makes it a tad more impressive. The biggest concern with Mahomes in this game is pace, as the Broncos simply slow down the game to the point it limits their opponent’s plays. He’s also traveling to the west coast on a Thursday night game, which isn’t the greatest of scenarios. You’re going to play Mahomes in season-long leagues every week, though him having just three days of rest on his ankle isn’t going to help him get healthier or produce at an elite level. He’s also going to be without his starting left tackle and left guard for this game. One thing I will say… with the way the ball travels in the Denver air, you might just see Mahomes throw the ball over them mountains.
Mahomes legend was born at Mile-High.Its the pace that worries me, not whether or not KC will win the game.
https://www.fantasypros.com/2019/10/the-primer-week-7-edition-2019-fantasy-football/
Not getting any good offers for either of them? I can only assume you've tried to trade one of them.Benching him for Deshaun. Zoinks.
I’m notoriously difficult to trade with in this dynasty league. And over 20 years I’ve been so bad at drafting QBs that I kinda want to bask in it for a while.Not getting any good offers for either of them? I can only assume you've tried to trade one of them.
Also knowing it's dynasty it makes a bit more sense. Hold until you get a good one. Sorry to hijack the Mahomes thread. Back to regularly scheduled programming.I’m notoriously difficult to trade with in this dynasty league. And over 20 years I’ve been so bad at drafting QBs that I kinda want to bask in it for a while.
Dynasty changes everything. I have Mahomes and would love to have another top quarterback, especially since it’s a super flex league.I’m notoriously difficult to trade with in this dynasty league. And over 20 years I’ve been so bad at drafting QBs that I kinda want to bask in it for a while.
NFL Network's James Palmer said Patrick Mahomes is dealing with a "legit" ankle injury.
Speaking on Mahomes' relative lack of production the past few games (we say "relative" because he's still on pace to shatter the league's single-season passing yards record), Palmer said the quarterback's ankle ailment, an injury he picked up in Week 1 and later aggravated against the Colts in Week 5, is "probably worse than most people think it is." Palmer noted that opponents have emphasized man coverage schemes against the hobbled MVP, who has been reluctant to abandon the pocket throughout his injury. Despite his ankle woes, Mahomes has only missed nine offensive snaps this year and none since Week 1.
SOURCE: James Palmer on Twitter
Oct 17, 2019, 1:54 PM ET
Dylan Scott @DylanScottTV 3m3 minutes agoShould the Chiefs sit Patrick Mahomes for a week?
For the second week in a row, Mahomes aggravated the ankle injury he originally suffered in Kansas City's season-opening win over Jacksonville. For the second week in a row, he wasn't anywhere near as effective after taking a hit to the ankle.
Yeah they had to "reset" his knee and after a 2 minute MRI he was ruled OUT. Hate to armchair it but from what I saw/heard he's done for awhile.Patrick Mahomes limped off the field during the second quarter against the Broncos with a right knee injury and has been ruled out for the remainder of the game.
Andy Reid called a quarterback sneak near the goal line in order to convert a 4th and short, and it resulted in Mahomes laying on the field injured. Helmet off, covering his face, Mahomes had his right knee attended to by doctors. The cart even drove onto the field, but Mahomes waved it off and limped off with trainers. He was then seen in the X-ray room, exited after two minutes and was immediately ruled out for the game. Matt Moore replaced the injured 2018 MVP.
Because he's a QB? Tom Brady is in his 40s and runs QB sneaks just for spite. It was an unfortunate injury as he got landed on and twisted.Why is this moron Reid QB sneaking his golden goose with a bad ankle on a short week?
Similar mechanism of injury can result in acl tear as well, hense the mri. for everyone's sake hope hes okDr. Jene weighs in:
https://twitter.com/JeneBramel/status/1185003465371766784
"Yes, kneecap dislocation for Mahomes. No report on XR findings yet. And MRI likely to come. Bracing possible, surgery possible, depending on imaging findings. Not a large number of comps for players returning from kneecap dislocations. Matthew Stafford missed 4 weeks in 2009."
Tom Brady doesnt have a gimpy ankle already.Because he's a QB? Tom Brady is in his 40s and runs QB sneaks just for spite. It was an unfortunate injury as he got landed on and twisted.
4 weeks best caseDr. Jene weighs in:
https://twitter.com/JeneBramel/status/1185003465371766784
"Yes, kneecap dislocation for Mahomes. No report on XR findings yet. And MRI likely to come. Bracing possible, surgery possible, depending on imaging findings. Not a large number of comps for players returning from kneecap dislocations. Matthew Stafford missed 4 weeks in 2009."
Crazy thing is that Buck and Aikman were talking about pretty much this exact scenario the series before.I don't remember a QB ever getting hurt on a sneak before. Seems flukey
Didn’t Carson Wentz get hurt on a similar type play a couple years ago?I don't remember a QB ever getting hurt on a sneak before. Seems flukey
When he tore his ACL? Not really. He was running full speed diving head first for the endzone 15 yards downfield from the LoS.Didn’t Carson Wentz get hurt on a similar type play a couple years ago?
No. That was a scramble and dive into the end zone. Got left/right combo by two defenders.Didn’t Carson Wentz get hurt on a similar type play a couple years ago?
Is it POSSIBLE not being able to push off on one foot properly could lead to an issue on the other leg?So the gimpy left ankle caused his knee injury in the other leg?
Wow, dude was a ticking time bomb. Guess we're lucky to have him on this Earth for this long.
And you can’t touch himTom Brady doesnt have a gimpy ankle already.
He's fair game on QB sneaks.And you can’t touch him
Lol, sure he isThe injury has nothing to do with the ankle. Flukey injury, guys need to watch the replay.
He's fair game on QB sneaks.
Im watching a guy trying to drive with his legs on a bad wheel and looking awkward. Of course the ankle influenced it, if you cant plant your foot with confidence your entire gait changes.The injury has nothing to do with the ankle. Flukey injury, guys need to watch the replay.
I probably should’ve googled it before typing that. I remembered it as more of a sneak but you guys were right it was a scrambleWhen he tore his ACL? Not really. He was running full speed diving head first for the endzone 15 yards downfield from the LoS.
Why would you expose him there when you don't have to? Its not even debatable. You have a 3-4 talented backs, the best TE in the game and a multiple of receiving options. What is the earthly point of sneaking him?The injury has nothing to do with the ankle. Flukey injury, guys need to watch the replay.
He's fair game on QB sneaks.
because statistically its the best percentage play....fluke injury....bad luckWhy would you expose him there when you don't have to? Its not even debatable. You have a 3-4 talented backs, the best TE in the game and a multiple of receiving options. What is the earthly point of sneaking him?
Why expose ANY QB there? It's a surprise sneak play to catch the D off guard and get short yardage. You've have to argue against the use of the play at all in any scenario then by that argument. He's not the first nicked up QB to do a sneak and he won't be the last.Why would you expose him there when you don't have to? Its not even debatable. You have a 3-4 talented backs, the best TE in the game and a multiple of receiving options. What is the earthly point of sneaking him?
Matt Schaub was knocked out for the season on a QB sneak, Lisfranc injury back when he actually played well for the Texans.I don't remember a QB ever getting hurt on a sneak before. Seems flukey
WHAT? Where have they been hiding these guys?Why would you expose him there when you don't have to? Its not even debatable. You have a 3-4 talented backs, the best TE in the game and a multiple of receiving options. What is the earthly point of sneaking him?
BECAUSE HE'S ALREADY HURT AND HE'S YOUR ENTIRE OFFENSEWhy expose ANY QB there? It's a surprise sneak play to catch the D off guard and get short yardage. You've have to argue against the use of the play at all in any scenario then by that argument. He's not the first nicked up QB to do a sneak and he won't be the last.