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QB Pennington Hurts His Shoulder Again? (1 Viewer)

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TAMPA - Chad Pennington's surgically repaired throwing shoulder is an issue. Again.

On a play hauntingly similar to last Sept. 25, the day he wrecked his shoulder for the second time, the Jets' hard-luck quarterback may have hurt it again last night when his right arm was hit by a blitzing safety in a 16-3 loss to the Bucs at Raymond James Stadium.

Coach Eric Mangini declined to discuss injuries after the game, the preseason opener for both teams, but there were indications that Pennington - in his highly anticipated debut - did something to the shoulder.

After the sack, which resulted in a fumble, Pennington went to the sideline and made at least two dozen warmup throws, with members of the Jets' medical staff watching. It seemed like a curious time for an impromptu bullpen session. Later, sitting on the bench, he flexed his arm a few times, as if trying to test the range of motion.

Afterward, the Jets went to great lengths to shield Pennington from the media. His clothes were removed from his locker, where reporters had gathered, and were brought to him in the trainer's room.

With the team buses waiting for him, Pennington took 45 minutes in the trainer's room before emerging to speak with reporters. Asked if the delay was because he was receiving treatment for an injury, Pennington said, "No, I wasn't getting treatment. I was just kind of looking at the stats and taking my time, to be honest with you."

Something as frivolous as reading a stat sheet wouldn't be a reason for holding up an entire team. Clearly, Pennington was up to something behind closed doors.

Pennington, who didn't appear to have any shoulder wraps or slings under his sport coat, refused to acknowledge he was hurt.

"I did take a few shots . . . but everything worked out fine," he said.

What about the warm-up tosses?

"I just wanted to go ahead and throw and see how it was after I had taken a shot like that, just to make sure everything was fine - and it was," Pennington said.

In his first action since his season-ending shoulder injury, Pennington (9-for-14, 54 yards) played two series, taking at least two hits to the shoulder. The latter came on a safety blitz by Kalvin Pearson, who beat a block by Cedric Houston. Pearson hit Pennington's right arm, and out came the ball.

It was eerily reminiscent to the Paul Spicer hit last Sept. 25, when the Jaguars' defensive end yanked Pennington's arm backward as he prepared to throw. As a result, he required surgery for the second time in eight months.

"Definitely similar, no doubt," Pennington admitted with a nervous laugh.

Pennington was evasive when asked if he expected to be practicing tomorrow when the Jets return to the field. Let the Shoulder Watch begin.

Mangini dodged when he was asked if he was nervous about seeing his presumed starter take a shot to his shoulder.

"If it were any quarterback, I'd feel exactly the same way," he said.

Pennington, who was slated to play only two series, was replaced by rookie Kellen Clemens (10-for-14, 92 yards), who was impressive, leading the team to its only points. Patrick Ramsey (2-for-3, nine yards) handled mop-up duty.

 
When I saw that play, I thought "oh no, not again" because the hit on his arm looked pretty vicious from Nicholson.

That said, most saw it as a plus, since they were saying "well, he can take the hits now...."

This looks like purely a speculation piece, but it is a solid argument.

 
I thought I was seeing reports that he was doing fine after the game? :confused:

I think there is a blurb in the sports on msn.com about it?

 
Cimini..... how I hate this guy. He hates the Jets, and I hate him. I think he's actually HOPING Pennington got hurt. I'm going to TC on Monday.... that will answer my questions, at least.

 
Salisbury just said that Cimini is coming on ESPN Radio's The Huddle soon. We'll see if he actually knows something or if he was just trying to stir the pot because Mangini has given the media nothing to work with lately.

 
Cimini was just on.

Says he has no evidence.

He said the hit was eerily reminiscent of the hit against the Jaguars last year.

He just "has a suspicion" that Chad may have been injured.

Meh

 
Jets | Pennington to practice Sunday

Sat, 12 Aug 2006 11:23:52 -0700

Tom Rock, of Newsday, reports New York Jets QB Chad Pennington said he will practice in full Sunday, Aug. 13. There was concern that Pennington may have injured his shoulder in the team's preseason opener Friday, Aug. 11.

 
Jets season ticket holder and my ICWT10 usertag stands for InChadWeTrust10:

He completed a full practice yesterday with no restrictions working exclusively with the first team offense.

Cimini is a hack and any Jets homer would tell you the same. Only persone worse is Mark Cannizzaro. Believe nothing you read from either of them.

HTH.

 
Jets season ticket holder and my ICWT10 usertag stands for InChadWeTrust10:

He completed a full practice yesterday with no restrictions working exclusively with the first team offense.

Cimini is a hack and any Jets homer would tell you the same. Only persone worse is Mark Cannizzaro. Believe nothing you read from either of them.

HTH.
To follow up on this, here is Cimini's blog from the following day:
http://blogs.nydailynews.com/jets/

Mea Culpa

Okay, I was wrong. Chad Pennington, as some of you know already, practiced with the first-team offense this afternoon. I thought for sure he was going to go with the fourth team, based on the rotation, but it sure looks like the so-called rotation is tilting toward Pennington, who will be named the starter.

So you want to know how he looked in practice? Pennington showed no lingering effects from the hit he took the other night - or at least none that I could tell, and I watched him pretty closely. He didn’t have any memorable passes, just a lot of stuff in the short and intermediate range.

Eric Mangini placed a heavy emphasis on the running game in practice - probably a smart thing, considering the poor performance in the opener - so it was hard to evaluate the quarterbacks. But in six 11-on-11 sessions, including one session in the red zone, here was the breakdown on the number of pass attempts for each quarterback:

Patrick Ramsey, 14.

Brooks Bollinger, 14.

Pennington, 12.

Kellen Clemens, 9.

Oh, in case you’re wondering, I counted 35 throws for Pennington in various individual drills. Obviously, he’s not injured, but I still contend that the training staff was giving his surgically-repaired shoulder the once-over after the game, just as a precaution.

Enough Shoulder Watch for the day.
 
What a jerk -

guy is in the trainer room after the game so he wrecked his shoulder again - nice journalism! He is a hack who is longing for the days that he suckled at Herm's teet.

I love this new regime - suck it up and work Cimini.

 
What a jerk - guy is in the trainer room after the game so he wrecked his shoulder again - nice journalism! He is a hack who is longing for the days that he suckled at Herm's teet. I love this new regime - suck it up and work Cimini.
:banned:
 
I'm still going out to TC today, but I told you.... I think Cimini was actually hoping Pennington got hurt. In fact, it almost seems to me that there are a lot of people who want to see him go down. There is one Miami homer on this board that went on and on about how Pennington looked like absolute **** against TB. One thing most people didn't understand is that the offense is being installed incrementally by Schottenhiemer. The game plan, if you could call it that, was to work on the short passing game, which they did, and Pennington looked decent doing that. The offense should open up a bit more in the next preseason game. Oh well, such is life for a Jets fan. Let's see if he makes any long throws this afternoon.

 
Rovers, I'm going to TC this afternoon as well. I suspect that a closer examination will only confirm my suspicions. Pennyboy's arm is shot. If you go back and watch the tape from the Tampa Bay game, his throws are just waiting to be jumped. Look at the difference between he and Clemens.

That said, I hope Pennington plays the majority of the season giving Clemens time to mature. There is no way Pennington is a Jet after this season though, which is kind of sad. I am, however, very much looking forward to Clemens and can't wait to see him today!

 
Rovers, I'm going to TC this afternoon as well. I suspect that a closer examination will only confirm my suspicions. Pennyboy's arm is shot. If you go back and watch the tape from the Tampa Bay game, his throws are just waiting to be jumped. Look at the difference between he and Clemens.That said, I hope Pennington plays the majority of the season giving Clemens time to mature. There is no way Pennington is a Jet after this season though, which is kind of sad. I am, however, very much looking forward to Clemens and can't wait to see him today!
That's the way he threw in 2002 though... he never fired the ball in there. yes, Clemens has a stronger arm, and is the future, but I think Chad will stay, if only as a backup. I'll be at the 50 yard line in the bleachers at 2:45 to meet someone with a black yankee cap on, if you want to hook up for a bit and yak. I'll be wearing a Brooklyn Brewery (Brooklyn Dodger sort of replica thing) jersey, and have a white beard.... sorta the Gorton fisherman look! LOL.
 
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Rovers, I'm going to TC this afternoon as well. I suspect that a closer examination will only confirm my suspicions. Pennyboy's arm is shot. If you go back and watch the tape from the Tampa Bay game, his throws are just waiting to be jumped. Look at the difference between he and Clemens.That said, I hope Pennington plays the majority of the season giving Clemens time to mature. There is no way Pennington is a Jet after this season though, which is kind of sad. I am, however, very much looking forward to Clemens and can't wait to see him today!
I'm not sure which throws you are talking about - all of his throws were short, and they all had some steam on them. He missed on a couple, but when all you're throwing is quick hitters, it's tough to say anything about them one way or the other. The only route that I saw getting jumped was the out that Clemens threw to Dwight that was nearly picked off.But let me put it another way - if Chad's arm was too weak to be NFL-ready, why isn't one of the other three QBs in camp winning the TC battle?
 
its getting ugly for Jets fans...at least we won't have to listen to Greeney on ESPN Radio constantly play that 'I will always love you' song from Whitney Houston in reference to chad `noodle arm` pennington...

rebuilding since 1969...

:tfp:

 
its getting ugly for Jets fans...at least we won't have to listen to Greeney on ESPN Radio constantly play that 'I will always love you' song from Whitney Houston in reference to chad `noodle arm` pennington...rebuilding since 1969... :tfp:
Giant fans are such an endearing lot. BTW, what ya gonna do when Tiki retires next year? :rolleyes:
 
Pennington is fine. I did hook up with mario (big dude!) at TC, and we bounced some stuff around. Ramsey was getting most of the snaps today, but Pennington looked like he did last week, and like he did in 2002. He never threw bullets, but he can hit the out. He os NOT injured. I was looking for more deep stuff today, but even Ramsey didn't throw many.... although McCariens, just like last year, just doesn't try hard enough. He had his man beat deep, and Ramsey overthrew him by less than a yard. MCariens didn't even make an attempt... never put his hands up. I'm really starting to hate this guy... no effort at all. Cotchery would have tried to make that play, Coles too.

Washington got most of the snaps at RB with the first team, we saw Clemens take at least two laps for screw ups, including a fumbled snap exchange, so Norm Katnik, his center kept him company as they both circled the field. . Bollinger remains the most maligned #2 or #3 QB in the NFL... he isn't all that bad.... in fact, he's a great #3, and a decent #2.

Isaac Snell looks like he blew out a knee.... pretty bad. He was decent O line depth. E Smith was back at SS again, Coleman is still out with the apendectomy. Trevor Johnson destroyed Marko Cavka with the end rush... Cavka should be history soon.

Dwight will be a big part of this offense, and Pennington hit him with a nice 25 yard pass for a TD. Much discussion on Jets boards over which RB get s cut now.... FB's too.

 
ICWT10 said:
ICWT10 said:
Jets season ticket holder and my ICWT10 usertag stands for InChadWeTrust10:

He completed a full practice yesterday with no restrictions working exclusively with the first team offense.

Cimini is a hack and any Jets homer would tell you the same. Only persone worse is Mark Cannizzaro. Believe nothing you read from either of them.

HTH.
To follow up on this, here is Cimini's blog from the following day:
http://blogs.nydailynews.com/jets/

Mea Culpa

Okay, I was wrong. Chad Pennington, as some of you know already, practiced with the first-team offense this afternoon. I thought for sure he was going to go with the fourth team, based on the rotation, but it sure looks like the so-called rotation is tilting toward Pennington, who will be named the starter.

So you want to know how he looked in practice? Pennington showed no lingering effects from the hit he took the other night - or at least none that I could tell, and I watched him pretty closely. He didn’t have any memorable passes, just a lot of stuff in the short and intermediate range.

Eric Mangini placed a heavy emphasis on the running game in practice - probably a smart thing, considering the poor performance in the opener - so it was hard to evaluate the quarterbacks. But in six 11-on-11 sessions, including one session in the red zone, here was the breakdown on the number of pass attempts for each quarterback:

Patrick Ramsey, 14.

Brooks Bollinger, 14.

Pennington, 12.

Kellen Clemens, 9.

Oh, in case you’re wondering, I counted 35 throws for Pennington in various individual drills. Obviously, he’s not injured, but I still contend that the training staff was giving his surgically-repaired shoulder the once-over after the game, just as a precaution.

Enough Shoulder Watch for the day.
Go back to JI :D
 
its getting ugly for Jets fans...at least we won't have to listen to Greeney on ESPN Radio constantly play that 'I will always love you' song from Whitney Houston in reference to chad `noodle arm` pennington...rebuilding since 1969... :tfp:
Giant fans are such an endearing lot. BTW, what ya gonna do when Tiki retires next year? :rolleyes:
Isn't Arrington's knee swelling more than Carrie Wilson? :shock:
 
ICWT10 said:
ICWT10 said:
Jets season ticket holder and my ICWT10 usertag stands for InChadWeTrust10:

He completed a full practice yesterday with no restrictions working exclusively with the first team offense.

Cimini is a hack and any Jets homer would tell you the same. Only persone worse is Mark Cannizzaro. Believe nothing you read from either of them.

HTH.
To follow up on this, here is Cimini's blog from the following day:
http://blogs.nydailynews.com/jets/

Mea Culpa

Okay, I was wrong. Chad Pennington, as some of you know already, practiced with the first-team offense this afternoon. I thought for sure he was going to go with the fourth team, based on the rotation, but it sure looks like the so-called rotation is tilting toward Pennington, who will be named the starter.

So you want to know how he looked in practice? Pennington showed no lingering effects from the hit he took the other night - or at least none that I could tell, and I watched him pretty closely. He didn’t have any memorable passes, just a lot of stuff in the short and intermediate range.

Eric Mangini placed a heavy emphasis on the running game in practice - probably a smart thing, considering the poor performance in the opener - so it was hard to evaluate the quarterbacks. But in six 11-on-11 sessions, including one session in the red zone, here was the breakdown on the number of pass attempts for each quarterback:

Patrick Ramsey, 14.

Brooks Bollinger, 14.

Pennington, 12.

Kellen Clemens, 9.

Oh, in case you’re wondering, I counted 35 throws for Pennington in various individual drills. Obviously, he’s not injured, but I still contend that the training staff was giving his surgically-repaired shoulder the once-over after the game, just as a precaution.

Enough Shoulder Watch for the day.
Go back to JI :D
:D :bye:

 

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