QB Sam Howell, MIN (1 Viewer)

[ffmail4me]

These stats are what gives me nightmares about Washington giving up on Sam too early....

Comparing Howell and Josh Allen in their first 18 games

Passing Yards - Howell 4115, Allen 3389
Completion % - Howell 63.2%, Allen 56.4%
Total TDs- Howell 28, Allen 28
INTs- Howell 22, Allen 29
Passer Rating - Howell 79.0, Allen 72.5

Allen just needed some time...and I'll argue Washington's OC and line was MUCH WORSE than Allen's.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Darnold has great weapons in Minnesota

Obviously JJ and Hockenson, but DK, JSN, Fant and the RBs are better in Seattle - I don’t think the weapons are hugely different on the whole.
I think they’re close, but only because Darnold has a better path to starting (and keeping the job) Until the draft anyway.

Having Darnold is like eating Broccoli.

Raw broccoli without ranch dip

I’m still in.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

These stats are what gives me nightmares about Washington giving up on Sam too early....

Comparing Howell and Josh Allen in their first 18 games

Passing Yards - Howell 4115, Allen 3389
Completion % - Howell 63.2%, Allen 56.4%
Total TDs- Howell 28, Allen 28
INTs- Howell 22, Allen 29
Passer Rating - Howell 79.0, Allen 72.5

Allen just needed some time...and I'll argue Washington's OC and line was MUCH WORSE than Allen's.

spot on post.

 

[Harjiran]

Seems like a terrible trade for WAS.

After seeing how little the Steelers gave up for Fields, I'd like to retract this statement in full.

 

[Bri]

Chalk me up as an idiot. Cause as a WAS fan I never would have shipped him out of here for a mediocre pick swap. I think he was worth more than that as a quality backup. Hate to see him go. The WAS brain trust obviously 1) didn't want two young QBs on the roster and 2) doesn't think much of Howell or they would have never shipped him outta here. I'd rather have Howell than Mariotta. I think this may bite them if Maye/Daniels takes a long time to get started because Mariotta sucks. WAS radio talking about it like a win. Not IMO

New staff. You would like to think they would salvage as much of the roster pass possible, but usually they toss everything

I wonder if there was something about drafting Maye (Howell's good friend and former UNC teammate) and not wanting to rock that boat. Sounds stupid to me, but I can't think of better logic.

If ANYONE watched football the last 2 years and came away thinking Mariota>Howell, then their logic is out to lunch.

Howell is better, younger, and cheaper.

Mariota is a better backup for a brand new starter rookie where the backup probably doesn't play. Anyone with years of experience and a willingness to teach probably is.

He's a good good guy. Organization wise they probably wanted him for culture.

The basketball guys that are doing a great job asking and researching the right way of doing things probably saw this as the proven path over like Steve versus Aikman.

Why did Howell fail? (4000 yards 26 TDs in first year, I wouldn't say he did but clearly that's a viewpoint) That Q had to be asked a zillion times and I wouldn't be surprised if a veteran backup was involved in the answers

 

[Bri]

"I've been a starter [and] won a playoff game," Mariota said. "I've also been cut [and] I've also been injured. I've also been benched. All those experiences create value and create opportunities for me to build relationships with guys. I can build with the top guy on the roster to the very bottom of the roster. I think that's important. Sometimes you need guys like myself to be able to glue guys together and be an advocate for the guys."

"I think when you're coming in, that expectation for you to be the quote-on-quote savior and all that is a lot. And I think for me now, to be able to have gone through that experience, if that's the way we go, I can provide a little bit of comfort knowing that, you [need to] be your best version of yourself. Don't worry about everything else. Don't worry about the expectations. Just go out there and try to get better every day and the rest of it will fall into place."

https://www.si.com/nfl/commanders/news/washington-commanders-quarterback-marcus-mariota-sign-start-mentor-free-agency

They probably ate that up in an interview

 

[beef]

Darnold has great weapons in Minnesota

Obviously JJ and Hockenson, but DK, JSN, Fant and the RBs are better in Seattle - I don’t think the weapons are hugely different on the whole.
I think they’re close, but only because Darnold has a better path to starting (and keeping the job) Until the draft anyway.

Having Darnold is like eating Broccoli.

Raw broccoli without ranch dip

Steamed with a drizzle of olive oil & garlic.

Wait! I mean . Give me some

 

[JohnnyU]

Darnold has great weapons in Minnesota

Obviously JJ and Hockenson, but DK, JSN, Fant and the RBs are better in Seattle - I don’t think the weapons are hugely different on the whole.
I think they’re close, but only because Darnold has a better path to starting (and keeping the job) Until the draft anyway.

Having Darnold is like eating Broccoli.

Raw broccoli without ranch dip

Steamed with a drizzle of olive oil & garlic.

Wait! I mean . Give me some

I'd rather slide down a 10 foot razorblade into a pool of alcohol.

 

[ffmail4me]

Geno traded…I hope Sam gets a shot. I don’t think he deserves all the blame in DC, EB had no balance or creativity with the play calling and the line that year was putrid. If they can get Darnold you go that route but if not I’d prefer him over Rodgers or Cousins if I’m a Seattle fan.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I wouldn’t get too excited - Seahawks reportedly hot & heavy after Darnold.

Howell showed them some very not good play in limited fashion last year.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Geno traded…I hope Sam gets a shot. I don’t think he deserves all the blame in DC, EB had no balance or creativity with the play calling and the line that year was putrid. If they can get Darnold you go that route but if not I’d prefer him over Rodgers or Cousins if I’m a Seattle fan.

That’s like preferring drinking cyanide over arsenic or pure nitric acid.

 

[menobrown]

All I know is the job of a backup QB is stay ready and this guy did not look like he was doing his job last year.

 

[BoltNlava]

With such promise at start all the sudden Seattle is lost in a sea of what now(?).

 

[Faust]

Sources: Seahawks open to trading backup QB Sam Howell

 

[zamboni]

Sources: Seahawks open to trading backup QB Sam Howell

This guy may wind up having more excursions than Thurston Howell.

 

[King of the Jungle]

Sources: Seahawks open to trading backup QB Sam Howell

This guy may wind up having more excursions than Thurston Howell.

He seems like the perfect backup to me. Mobile, young, and capable of coming in and throwing the ball around.

 

[zamboni]

Sources: Seahawks open to trading backup QB Sam Howell

This guy may wind up having more excursions than Thurston Howell.

He seems like the perfect backup to me. Mobile, young, and capable of coming in and throwing the ball around.

Depends on the offensive scheme, I think, but there are certainly worse backups out there.

 

[King of the Jungle]

Sources: Seahawks open to trading backup QB Sam Howell

This guy may wind up having more excursions than Thurston Howell.

He seems like the perfect backup to me. Mobile, young, and capable of coming in and throwing the ball around.

Depends on the offensive scheme, I think, but there are certainly worse backups out there.

Certainly not perfect, but gives you a guy who has capability of moving the ball any way. Maybe I am just scarred from Detroits history of backup arms that you do not feel comfortable at all when they throw a pass.

 

[ffmail4me]

I think Carolina should look at him to backup Young, always a plus getting a local kid and he can definitely spin it if he needed to play some snaps for them

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Sources: Seahawks open to trading backup QB Sam Howell

This guy may wind up having more excursions than Thurston Howell.

He seems like the perfect backup to me. Mobile, young, and capable of coming in and throwing the ball around.

Unfortunately he throws it to the other team way too often. I really liked the guy and took him in a dynasty startup a few years ago. It’s been a rough road primarily because of the offensive lines he’s played behind, and now he’s stuck in Seattle behind Darnold and behind another seemingly bad offensive line.

I still think he’s better than what he’s shown, but I’m not sure how much better.

 

[menobrown]

Just thinking off top of my head who might want him.

Beiniemy was his OC in Washington the year he played extensively but they signed Keenum and seem to like Bagent. Plus, and probably more importantly, EB is not the OC.

If a team like the Steelers strike out in the draft and/or Rodgers he makes sense just because of the depth chart, but don't see him as a real fit.

Tampa makes a lot of sense in my head. At minimum compete with Trask, and Howell kind of has a diet coke Baker Mayfield style to his game.

 

[travdogg]

Just thinking off top of my head who might want him.

Beiniemy was his OC in Washington the year he played extensively but they signed Keenum and seem to like Bagent. Plus, and probably more importantly, EB is not the OC.

If a team like the Steelers strike out in the draft and/or Rodgers he makes sense just because of the depth chart, but don't see him as a real fit.

Tampa makes a lot of sense in my head. At minimum compete with Trask, and Howell kind of has a diet coke Baker Mayfield style to his game.

New Orleans maybe, if they prefer to wait until next year to draft their QB of the future?

 

[TLEF316]

Is this dude still bringing his own chicken tenders to restaurants in a zip lock bag?

 

[JohnnyU]

I used to thiink Howell was pretty good. I now think he's pretty bad.

 

[Faust]

Vikings reportedly acquire QB Sam Howell from Seahawks, likely closing door on Aaron Rodgers

 

[-OZ-]

I used to thiink Howell was pretty good. I now think he's pretty bad.

I think he went from majorly overrated to underrated. If McCarthy isn’t who they think he is, Howell will do alright.

 

[Donnybrook]

I used to thiink Howell was pretty good. I now think he's pretty bad.

Same.

My hope now it had to do with Seattle coaching because he looked ill prepared when he filled in for Geno.

 

[JohnnyU]

I used to thiink Howell was pretty good. I now think he's pretty bad.

I think he went from majorly overrated to underrated. If McCarthy isn’t who they think he is, Howell will do alright.

After looking at him filling in for Smith in Seattle, I doubt he will do alright. He looked horrible.

 

[Boston]

The x-factor here is O'Connell...Howell looks like he has some raw tools and it will interesting to see what working with O'Connell does for him...I think this is a good move at a low price...JJM is probably the starter and if he is legit Howell will be fine being a backup but if he isn't ready Howell could be intriguing in the short-term.

 

[zamboni]

The x-factor here is O'Connell...Howell looks like he has some raw tools and it will interesting to see what working with O'Connell does for him...I think this is a good move at a low price...JJM is probably the starter and if he is legit Howell will be fine being a backup but if he isn't ready Howell could be intriguing in the short-term.

Agree - Darnold is the standout, but Josh Dobbs and Nick Mullens also looked decent in that system. O’Connell is just a QB magician.

 

[Deamon]

Practice Squad by September 1st.

 

[JohnnyU]

Practice Squad by September 1st.

Costco by November

 

[Deamon]

Practice Squad by September 1st.

Costco by November

Very likely. Don't think he makes the team.

 

[-OZ-]

Practice Squad by September 1st.

Costco by November

super bowl mvp by March

 

[BeTheMatch]

Practice Squad by September 1st.

Costco by November

Very likely. Don't think he makes the team.

And who would be the backup over him?

 

[Deamon]

Practice Squad by September 1st.

Costco by November

Very likely. Don't think he makes the team.

And who would be the backup over him?

Brett