LittlePhatty
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Translation: Even Mettenberger's agent thinks Mariota is way better than him.
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jurb26
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No. Translation: You don't draft a QB 2nd overall all if you think I have a future in Tenn. Can't blame him. There has to be some teams that would be interested, Clev comes to mind immediately.
No. If a team drafts a QB #2 they don't have a genuine competition. The job is given to the blue-chip gem whether he does well or not.
If Mett beats out Mariota or if Whiz pulls Mariota for Mett, Webster loses his job.
Both the coach and GM are "this close" to losing their jobs.
Titans fans thought it would happen last December. The Titans president stepped down and they have an interim. The ownership has gone from ol' Bud to a family with no loud voice distinguishing themselves from the group.
Two ladies attended the NFL meetings but were especially quiet and somewhat uninvolved. Bud's son(grandson?) Kenneth speaks up once every six months and I like what he says. I'm hopeful he is the main owner, the one with the voice, and the family asks him to take over as such.
One rumor a couple months back was that an NFL pencil pusher could step in-strict rule oriented, results based guy that lacks close personal relationship bonds and just judges on results. I'd be fine with him as the team president.
The interim guy is fine, but he's been quiet. They don't need a figurehead and didn't bring him back to shush.
Sorry to ramble-the day is coming, sooner than later, that the Titans have a voice running the organization. I would guess it's the next few weeks. On this day everyone has to do whatever you do when a new boss is around-behave, perform well, etc. There is no way Webster or Whiz want the new boss to see anything other than look at our prized pick.
Previously it was woohoo look at our 6th rounder starting wow what a big arm, he can throw it like Jeff George. That's all gone the second they drafted a blue-chipper.
Mett's chances of playing are due to injury to Mariota or a couple years of Mariota struggling.
By trade, he could go to Buffalo where Manuel struggled. In Cleveland, many have given up on Manziel already (which is curiously fast) so I suppose he could go there. He would still have to beat these two out but IMO QBs with confidence always win these and he is sky high more confident than those two.
On a good team with a veteran QB, he will be exposed as inexperienced and not a good option over a vet. His list of potential teams are very small.
If he loses his starting notion and just wants to be away from the team that didn't believe in him-he can go to just about any NFL team. He makes peanuts and has a giant arm. He has starting experience. He's a good kid that's worst personal issue is taking too many selfies. Every team would want him. As a project, as a backup, it's completely different and I can't imagine any coach not wanting him in that role. Again, as a 6th rounder he makes next to nothing in the NFL world of salaries.
I don't see it though. He felt he was slighted, he led the NFL in passing yardage in preseason, he waited while Locker and Whitehurst struggled, he got the starts and was likely the starting QB and then the bottom fell out. It's a fast rise to the top, but all that is a young guy waiting and earning his spot. The real world is cruel, but we all like to think if something is earned they keep the position. I have no issue with him wanting to be traded and don't fault him for being angry. I would be more upset if he wasn't angry.
I haven't seen angry or confrontational quotes from him, just his agent, which shows a real rise in maturity from just last season. You pay him, let him be the mouth-piece.
Faust
MVP
Titans' Zach Mettenberger doesn't want trade:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000489615/article/titans-not-planning-to-trade-qb-zach-mettenberger
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000489615/article/titans-not-planning-to-trade-qb-zach-mettenberger
cstu
Footballguy
I think he can be a starter too. Tennessee should see what his value is to various teams such as:
Arizona (backup Palmer for a year and then take the reigns)
Cleveland (neverending mess)
NYJ (competition for Geno at least if not more)
Denver (similar to AZ)
Houston (mess)
Arizona (backup Palmer for a year and then take the reigns)
Cleveland (neverending mess)
NYJ (competition for Geno at least if not more)
Denver (similar to AZ)
Houston (mess)
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Shutout
Footballguy
mr roboto
Footballguy
Why would Den want him?
I don't know. Seems to me he's got the value of someone like Ryan Mallet. Maybe could compete for a starting gig if the team didn't really have a starter. Or he could just remain the backup b/c he's not getting paid much as Mallet did for a few years. This is probably how it will play out.
We don't know anything about Brock, guess we'd have to see to really judge.
They changed their O, or free agency changed it for them, but with all their weapons I would be fine with a big arm as Peyton's backup.
I think people have seen a career where his backups were meh and it worries them.
It's kind of funny you said Mallett. I was most afraid the Texans would trade for him and I'd wind up having to root against him for a long time.
I never liked Mallett and wasn't impressed last year. I don't think the Texans have their QB but that has to play out like in Buffalo.
Faust
MVP
Michael Robinson: Zach Mettenberger is a starter
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000510282/article/michael-robinson-zach-mettenberger-is-a-starter
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000510282/article/michael-robinson-zach-mettenberger-is-a-starter
Faust
MVP
Zach Mettenberger to Start at QB on Sunday:
http://www.titansonline.com/news/article-4/Zach-Mettenberger-to-Start-at-QB-on-Sunday/660c147f-954d-4ba1-b815-ba40561b97ad
http://www.titansonline.com/news/article-4/Zach-Mettenberger-to-Start-at-QB-on-Sunday/660c147f-954d-4ba1-b815-ba40561b97ad
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
What receivers did he like last year?
Is this a whole new system with MM
Is this a whole new system with MM
Van Dyman
Footballguy
The Titans barely passed to WRs in 2nd and 3rd Q last year. Not definitive times, could be no WR targets after 2 min into 2nd Q but...
It was stupid and Whisenhunt was using his Delanie Gates system.
His best game was Hunter's best. Hunter did the impossible and did well against Haden. The Browns failed to adjust and the Titans were awesome like a top offense with 28 points or 31 points in a half or somesuch. The second half marked the biggest comeback in Browns history though. They couldn't run it out and waste time, D couldn't stop em', and trying some dopey token passes to eat time off clock too was totally not Mett's style.
Everyone did well that first half, not just Hunter. Mett was red hot.
This summer Mett's squad was Hunter (played first and second split due to Nicks) McBride and Turzilli. Then when Turzilli got hurt DGB stepped into 2nd O.
This season with practices has probably been same guys since McBride is on PS.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
I don't think he likes Kendall Wright as much as Locker and now Mariota have.
He likes to push the ball down the field. Hunter or DGB seem like the WR he might prefer.
Wright ran few deep patterns last year while this year he runs some mid-long range ones. Not disagreeing, just he will probably be more appealing this year to the guy that likes to show off his arm
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Keith1
Footballguy
I have Rodgers on the bye, and I am starting Mett (over Hoyer) in my 1 QB league.
Let's Go Mett ! (Mets too !)
nah, he got sacked at least 7 times, hit even more. WRs dropped balls that hit their hands
IIRC Watt 2.5 Mercilus 3.5 Crick 2
Mett will make 631k next year
For much of this past offseason, the Titans had a ton of cap room because their QBs were dirt cheap. So a potential trade for Mett does offer a new team a huge bonus there for their cap. If they drop an average NFL QB and go with Mett, they could probably sign another FA with the difference in $ too.
My Q is- Should Titans trade him this offseason? What's he worth?
My guess would be mid 3rd (with mid 2nd maybe if there's a lot of interest so he rises a bit in value)
For much of this past offseason, the Titans had a ton of cap room because their QBs were dirt cheap. So a potential trade for Mett does offer a new team a huge bonus there for their cap. If they drop an average NFL QB and go with Mett, they could probably sign another FA with the difference in $ too.
My Q is- Should Titans trade him this offseason? What's he worth?
My guess would be mid 3rd (with mid 2nd maybe if there's a lot of interest so he rises a bit in value)
Judge Smails
Footballguy
Not going to help him that Walker gets a hammy and shows up on the injury report on Friday...
Futz
Footballguy
You might be right, but he's not terrible, he's inexpensive and has NFL experience with upside. That's more than St. Louis can say about what they have now or what they might grab in the third of the NFL draft.
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OK different opinion.
I love the arm and he matured an absolute ton this year. I didn't think he could handle being 2nd fiddle to 'a new guy' and have a good attitude but he's been perfect in that regard.
I don't feel like he's been coached much in the NFL. 3rd string and then rookie stud getting all the focus.
He's shown (IMO) that he can play in the league and with still not 16 games under his belt, I feel that's better than any rook QB that's gonna go in the third round
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Just another brilliant QB choice of the "QB wizard" Ken Whisenhunt. Though nothing will top his choice to acquire Kevin Kolb. Kolb was a funny guy to watch. Guy was scared ####less on every drop back and would react when there was absolutely no pressure. Comedy at its finest 
I'm sure he'll get a shot as backup somewhere, but getting waived for Matt Cassel is not a good look
Titans waived QB Zach Mettenberger.
Tennessee almost certainly attempted to trade the 2014 sixth-rounder during the draft, but they understandably found no takers. Despite the Titans losing all six of his rookie starts, Mettenberger flashed big-play ability and looked like he could develop into a quality backup. He was disastrous in four starts last season, however, and his fate was all but sealed when Tennessee brought in veteran backup Matt Cassel. Mettenberger will get another look somewhere, but his lack of pocket awareness and inability to evade pressure look like fatal flaws.
Related: Titans
Source: Field Yates on Twitter
I'm sure he'll get a shot as backup somewhere, but getting waived for Matt Cassel is not a good look
Titans waived QB Zach Mettenberger.
Tennessee almost certainly attempted to trade the 2014 sixth-rounder during the draft, but they understandably found no takers. Despite the Titans losing all six of his rookie starts, Mettenberger flashed big-play ability and looked like he could develop into a quality backup. He was disastrous in four starts last season, however, and his fate was all but sealed when Tennessee brought in veteran backup Matt Cassel. Mettenberger will get another look somewhere, but his lack of pocket awareness and inability to evade pressure look like fatal flaws.
Related: Titans
Source: Field Yates on Twitter
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Wasn't him at all. Former GM drafted Mett, Whis was fine with Locker n Fitz.Just another brilliant QB choice of the "QB wizard" Ken Whisenhunt. Though nothing will top his choice to acquire Kevin Kolb. Kolb was a funny guy to watch. Guy was scared ####less on every drop back and would react when there was absolutely no pressure. Comedy at its finest
I'm sure he'll get a shot as backup somewhere, but getting waived for Matt Cassel is not a good look
Titans waived QB Zach Mettenberger.
Tennessee almost certainly attempted to trade the 2014 sixth-rounder during the draft, but they understandably found no takers. Despite the Titans losing all six of his rookie starts, Mettenberger flashed big-play ability and looked like he could develop into a quality backup. He was disastrous in four starts last season, however, and his fate was all but sealed when Tennessee brought in veteran backup Matt Cassel. Mettenberger will get another look somewhere, but his lack of pocket awareness and inability to evade pressure look like fatal flaws.
Related: Titans
Source: Field Yates on Twitter
He wasn't going to make the team, according to many, but then he did
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Wrong.
Whiz wanted Charlie Whitehurst due to his familiarity with his system and they signed him before the 2014 NFL draft. And then released the guy he inherited Fitzpatrick. He's an AWFUL evaluator of QB talent. Which is hilarious given his previous reputation.
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Oh so you never saw him play.Guy was scared ####less on every drop back and would react when there was absolutely no pressure. Comedy at its finest
The Titans backup job was very unfortunate last year. Wright got hurt. They tried a "new" journeyman at LG and their C was injured forcing a rook to play. They also switched their RT and decided not to use the FB much anymore. DGB was not ready yet.
Another game, there were so many injuries to WRs that Sankey had to line up/
Late in the year, when the backup was in, that's when they decided to give Cobb (who couldn't pass block in preseason) his chance. They also played McBride. Turzilli I believe started but played like five plays.
He was either the most pressured QB per start for 2016 or most by like week 15,16. It was horrible. This after 2015, when some sites called the Titans O line one of the worst ever.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Again you're wrong. You said Wiz wanted Fitz....he did not. Waived him 2 months of taking the job for his system guy in Whitehurst. Do a little research. Just a little bit.
And it's pretty clear I meant Kolb in what I wrote above......for anyone with some reading comprehension
And it's pretty clear I meant Kolb in what I wrote above......for anyone with some reading comprehension
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Bears_Man2
Footballguy
I don't think there will again be a player that was hated more by Cardinal fans than Kevin Kolb. The guy became more hated than Leinart. I know first hand even one of his then teammates (said at the time they were both on the Cardinals) said he had no business starting in the NFL. Kolb should be thanking Andy Reid everyday for that payday.Though nothing will top his choice to acquire Kevin Kolb. Kolb was a funny guy to watch. Guy was scared ####less on every drop back and would react when there was absolutely no pressure. Comedy at its finest
Bears_Man2
Footballguy
Classic Whisenhunt.
Locker, Whitehurst, Mettenberger, Fitzpatrick.....and he gets rid of the one that's amounted to anything in the NFL.
Mett is very personable. I like his flawed personality, honesty. He was a goof taking selfies, Watt called him on it, they talked some smack, Mett "ate it" and said so. Never claimed to play better than he did, always what he could improve. A lot of people thought he talked too much or tweeted or facebook or whatever but in this day N age, that's normal or will be any day now.
He was called a statue by one draft writer and everyone ran with it. He moved fine. He's not an athletic QB but fine for a normal one. That wasn't it. Randall Cunningham wouldn't get away from the pass rush Mett faced.
He's got a great arm. He's a lot like Jeff George. Wonderful range to throw all over the field, looks fantastic, and then what was with that throw? What were you thinking? He has no fear his passes will be intercepted, like George and that can be oh so costly. Most NFL QBs like that get cut- George and Favre had careers.
I think the Giants would be the perfect place for him. Being ODBs friend and a WR he has a rapport with (that's the Giants passing offense right there) he can get comfy. I'm not sure how their line will do without their OL coach of the past decade but they drafted plenty and should be OK. Eli was full of bad decisions as a rook. I've never really noticed a young guy he can take under his wing. It's probably time. Mett has always rocked in preseason, I think he was the top passer in 2015 preseason. Let him do that and sit N learn.
He did great against the Browns-put up like 28 points in a half. It was also the last sight of Hunter's supreme athleticism as he had a 100 yard day despite being covered by Haden. Rest of the time Hunter just looks like a guy.
He really flashed several times his rookie year so there was a bunch of Titans fans that didn't want a QB with the #2 pick. He led the private type get together offseason activites and those that thought this way were fine with it all. It took like a week for Mariota to win everyone over and have people saying Mett who.
The first inkling Mett could be cut was last summer when youtube star Alex Tanney was looking real good. Tanney can really sling it too and with Mariota the definitive starter one reporter suggested he'd be a better student, more amicable as a backup whereas (months before, day of draft, horrible context) Mett said Mariota would have to win the starting spot from him. Tanney went on the PS and then to the Colts. He was re-signed by the Titans in the early offseason IIRC.
I don't think Cassel is any good. I've always wondered why the Patriots did- the franchise that is always right on players just seemed so off here. He's the veteran backup tho and I don't think Mett is a 3rd QB kind of guy. Tanney is. Mett needs a chance to play or the air of a chance to play with like some old guy in front of him.
I don't see the SD move. Their line stinks too and Rivers is so methodical. It's not Mett's style at all.
I wouldn't be surprised if Horton recommended him to Hue. I wouldn't say he can beat out RG3 but I wouldn't be surprised if he did either.
I assume Elway is watching the QB waiver wire so I'd like to hear his thoughts on Mett.
Not a Geno fan at all, with Fitz not signed, Mett would be perfect in NYJ for a week. Fitz will sign and then he'll have no place so I sure hope he doesn't go there.
I hope he can go somewhere and battle- either win the starting spot or lose and be a backup with a chance of playing.
He was called a statue by one draft writer and everyone ran with it. He moved fine. He's not an athletic QB but fine for a normal one. That wasn't it. Randall Cunningham wouldn't get away from the pass rush Mett faced.
He's got a great arm. He's a lot like Jeff George. Wonderful range to throw all over the field, looks fantastic, and then what was with that throw? What were you thinking? He has no fear his passes will be intercepted, like George and that can be oh so costly. Most NFL QBs like that get cut- George and Favre had careers.
I think the Giants would be the perfect place for him. Being ODBs friend and a WR he has a rapport with (that's the Giants passing offense right there) he can get comfy. I'm not sure how their line will do without their OL coach of the past decade but they drafted plenty and should be OK. Eli was full of bad decisions as a rook. I've never really noticed a young guy he can take under his wing. It's probably time. Mett has always rocked in preseason, I think he was the top passer in 2015 preseason. Let him do that and sit N learn.
He did great against the Browns-put up like 28 points in a half. It was also the last sight of Hunter's supreme athleticism as he had a 100 yard day despite being covered by Haden. Rest of the time Hunter just looks like a guy.
He really flashed several times his rookie year so there was a bunch of Titans fans that didn't want a QB with the #2 pick. He led the private type get together offseason activites and those that thought this way were fine with it all. It took like a week for Mariota to win everyone over and have people saying Mett who.
The first inkling Mett could be cut was last summer when youtube star Alex Tanney was looking real good. Tanney can really sling it too and with Mariota the definitive starter one reporter suggested he'd be a better student, more amicable as a backup whereas (months before, day of draft, horrible context) Mett said Mariota would have to win the starting spot from him. Tanney went on the PS and then to the Colts. He was re-signed by the Titans in the early offseason IIRC.
I don't think Cassel is any good. I've always wondered why the Patriots did- the franchise that is always right on players just seemed so off here. He's the veteran backup tho and I don't think Mett is a 3rd QB kind of guy. Tanney is. Mett needs a chance to play or the air of a chance to play with like some old guy in front of him.
I don't see the SD move. Their line stinks too and Rivers is so methodical. It's not Mett's style at all.
I wouldn't be surprised if Horton recommended him to Hue. I wouldn't say he can beat out RG3 but I wouldn't be surprised if he did either.
I assume Elway is watching the QB waiver wire so I'd like to hear his thoughts on Mett.
Not a Geno fan at all, with Fitz not signed, Mett would be perfect in NYJ for a week. Fitz will sign and then he'll have no place so I sure hope he doesn't go there.
I hope he can go somewhere and battle- either win the starting spot or lose and be a backup with a chance of playing.
He absolutely did want Whitehurst but when he was hired he sung the praises of Locker and Fitz. If you look at the quotes leading up to the Texans game you can see more positive quotes on Fitz too. He said he could fix Locker and Locker did look sharp, for a single game, when they beat KC.
I am in no way a Whisenhunt fan. He wrecked the development of every younger player in TEN except Mariota and literally caused our QB to retire at an unheard of time in his career. Dude would rather sit than play for Whis. I joked early on but I've heard people on the radio say the same- will Locker show up one day in camp? That's pathetic. Leinart was a major flop of his too.
A nobody Marc Mariani still bothers me to this day. The very day Whis spoke of hustle and dedication and commitment and blah blah blah they cut Mariani. The highest motored hustle guy ya ever saw- tiny WR that somehow gets open with hustle. He was a pro bowl returner that even got to play WR in the pro bowl and they used "numbers game" as an excuse to cut him. Chicago fans sure like him now. On facebook he posts a pic of him at some store or parking lot thanking the fans for their support which would seem normal but he barely plays. It's just that hustle, that Rudy quality in him. Whis cut that
He does not have that coaching ability to "apply pressure" and let off. He only has one mode to push N push and never ever be satisfied. It is horrible for a young player's confidence. He rode Sankey for not running hard between the tackles, rightly so, but after a few weeks he finally did and he did well. After the game Whis was all "no he missed a block." A normal coach would say he ran better and hit him with the missed block in the film room. He'd have a day to be pleased he did accomplish what the coach asked.
In year one, Hunter did have an ego issue and Jefferson worked that right out of him running him into the ground. Whis had him run maybe literally 40 deep decoy routes and would whine if he let up on the 37th and insinuate the run game would work better if he ran his route or the underneath WR would be open if so. That JAG stuff was just cruel. It'd be different if some veteran did it, but from the coach? That's like a dunce cap type humiliation punishment. He did nothing. He was quiet all offseason and showed up to workouts. He didn't deserve that. Every reporter tells the same story of last summer's first day of camp. Whis had challenged everyone to study the playbook top to bottom and know other positions. When he asked if WRs knew the others it was said with an expectant tone like ha yeah see no one did..only Hunter did. He said so and Whis called everyone to run plays and he did it. Whis had this whole smiley egg on his face embarrassed look at the presser following practice. He was a total dink to all the younger players, especially Hunter. I expect Hunter to improve dramatically in 2016 either with the Titans or without, he will benefit from not having a coach like that.
Bears_Man2
Footballguy
http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/204059/historically-zach-mettenberger-has-no-chance
If getting replaced by Cassel wasn't bad enough, he was waived for an undrafted player signed from a rookie minicamp tryout. Someone will give a camp shot with his arm but he no longer has the benefit of being a staff's drafted investment and will have to learn a new system unless he heads to SD.
If getting replaced by Cassel wasn't bad enough, he was waived for an undrafted player signed from a rookie minicamp tryout. Someone will give a camp shot with his arm but he no longer has the benefit of being a staff's drafted investment and will have to learn a new system unless he heads to SD.
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Chadstroma
Footballguy
Somewhat surprised. I thought he showed enough to develop in a back up role if not starter when he played and being where he was drafted had to be cheap enough.
