Questions re: Raiders' off-season (1 Viewer)

[higgins]

Question for Raiders fans:

While I don’t follow them much, it seems to me there’s huge potential for an inordinate amount of change this off-season.

(1) IIRC, ABrooks is a FA (who obviously may re-sign) – do they re-sign Brooks, give Walter a chance, or use their high 1st rndr on a QB (which is not the Raiders’ typical MO)?

(2) There has been the talk of Moss and/or Porter being traded – what do you see happening?

(3) How do you think they use their high 1st (a lot is predicated on the abpve two questions)?

 

[kbleck]

Matt Millen will be fired from Detroit and Crazy AL will jump out of his chair and hire Millen right away.

Until Al Davis moves out of the decision making position the Raiders are gonna suck!

 

[PatsWillWin]

Brooks is not a free agent. He was signed toa two year deal. However, I believe that he is due a substantial roster bonus before next season, so he could easily be cut.

He could be brought back under another deal. I think they'd have to bring in SOME kind of veteran if they plan on drafting Quinn.

Walter has not been very impressive in his extensive opportunities this season. I doubt he's still considered the QB of the future.

 

[ZenMaster]

I expect the Raiders to draft Brady Quinn, at which point I will box all my Raiders stuff and mail it to Oakland and declare my free agency as a fan.

I think Moss is gone after this year. It's clear that he's given up on the team and I don't see why they would want to keep him, especially with Curry coming along and being the go-to guy. I don't have a clue about Porter.

Brooks may be kept around with a restructured contract since Walter doesn't look ready to take over. Walsh has to go as OC, no question about this. He's just plain terrible.

 

[diesel7982]

Question for Raiders fans:While I don’t follow them much, it seems to me there’s huge potential for an inordinate amount of change this off-season.(1) IIRC, ABrooks is a FA (who obviously may re-sign) – do they re-sign Brooks, give Walter a chance, or use their high 1st rndr on a QB (which is not the Raiders’ typical MO)?(2) There has been the talk of Moss and/or Porter being traded – what do you see happening?(3) How do you think they use their high 1st (a lot is predicated on the abpve two questions)?

Brooks will be cut.Moss will refuse to restructure and will be cut.Jerry Porter will be cut.

 

[zamboni]

Walsh has to go as OC, no question about this. He's just plain terrible.

Walsh was canned awhile back for Shoop.I'm not a homer, but I would imagine they'll bring in a veteran to hold the fort for a year (Plummer?), even if they draft Quinn. Moss might be too expensive to get rid of, although Porter is assuredly gone (Tampa?).I'm interested in what they do at RB, as Jordan hasn't exactly impressed even when healthy. And he's got a big contract as well.

 

[diesel7982]

Walsh has to go as OC, no question about this. He's just plain terrible.

Walsh was canned awhile back for Shoop.I'm not a homer, but I would imagine they'll bring in a veteran to hold the fort for a year (Plummer?), even if they draft Quinn.

Moss might be too expensive to get rid of, although Porter is assuredly gone (Tampa?).

I'm interested in what they do at RB, as Jordan hasn't exactly impressed even when healthy. And he's got a big contract as well.

Quite the opposite, Moss is too expensive to keep. Hes going to have to restructure or he'll be cut.

 

[alg]

Question for Raiders fans:While I don’t follow them much, it seems to me there’s huge potential for an inordinate amount of change this off-season.(1) IIRC, ABrooks is a FA (who obviously may re-sign) – do they re-sign Brooks, give Walter a chance, or use their high 1st rndr on a QB (which is not the Raiders’ typical MO)?(2) There has been the talk of Moss and/or Porter being traded – what do you see happening?(3) How do you think they use their high 1st (a lot is predicated on the abpve two questions)?

Brooks will be cut.Moss will refuse to restructure and will be cut.Jerry Porter will be cut.

In that case we should expect Calvin Johnson to end up a Raider. A pitty...

 

[Banger]

Probably not too much on the defensive side since they've actually been pretty good all year. On the offensive side I think everything is up for grabs, new OC, wr's cut/signed, o-line changes, possibly new HC. Their offense is a complete disaster (stating the obvious).

 

[ZenMaster]

Walsh has to go as OC, no question about this. He's just plain terrible.

Walsh was canned awhile back for Shoop.I'm not a homer, but I would imagine they'll bring in a veteran to hold the fort for a year (Plummer?), even if they draft Quinn. Moss might be too expensive to get rid of, although Porter is assuredly gone (Tampa?).I'm interested in what they do at RB, as Jordan hasn't exactly impressed even when healthy. And he's got a big contract as well.

Oops, you're right. I totally forgot about that since the offense hasn't really seemed to play any better.

 

[mad sweeney]

I expect the Raiders to draft Brady Quinn, at which point I will box all my Raiders stuff and mail it to Oakland and declare my free agency as a fan.I think Moss is gone after this year. It's clear that he's given up on the team and I don't see why they would want to keep him, especially with Curry coming along and being the go-to guy. I don't have a clue about Porter.Brooks may be kept around with a restructured contract since Walter doesn't look ready to take over. Walsh has to go as OC, no question about this. He's just plain terrible.

Why not Troy Smith? I don't follow college much so I don't know if he's going back to school next season. But with Davis' man-love of Heisman Trophy winners does Smith have a shot at being #1? Or does Al only like them after they've bombed in the NFL, with a few exceptions.

 

[Colin Dowling]

I expect the Raiders to draft Brady Quinn, at which point I will box all my Raiders stuff and mail it to Oakland and declare my free agency as a fan.I think Moss is gone after this year. It's clear that he's given up on the team and I don't see why they would want to keep him, especially with Curry coming along and being the go-to guy. I don't have a clue about Porter.Brooks may be kept around with a restructured contract since Walter doesn't look ready to take over. Walsh has to go as OC, no question about this. He's just plain terrible.

Why not Troy Smith? I don't follow college much so I don't know if he's going back to school next season. But with Davis' man-love of Heisman Trophy winners does Smith have a shot at being #1? Or does Al only like them after they've bombed in the NFL, with a few exceptions.

Hi Mad,Smith is a senior, so he's coming out and definitely will be an option I expect the Raiders to look at. Right now, Quinn, Stanton, and Smith represent the top-3 quarterbacks we know will be in the draft. and all 3 should expect to be drafted on Day 1.While it's easy to pile on their QB play recently since it's been so bad, I tend to think of it another way: Walter, Collins, and Brooks are all VERY different quarterbacks in style, substance, and strengths. The fact that none of the three has been able to experience even remote success indicates to me that perhaps the QBs aren't the issue. Heck, even Gannon/Mirer in '03 was an offensive disaster. With the exception of Gannon, none of these guys is a superb quarterback, but they aren't the worst on earth. For example, Aaron Brooks completion % this season is actually BETTER then his career average. However, his YPA are off by more than a yard, which is terrible. The line can't keep anyone out of the backfield, so the deep pass in Oakland has gone the way of the dodo. It wouldn't matter anyway since the WRs aren't running very fast or trying very hard. Walter/Brooks combined have been sacked on passes 77 times so far this season and haven't helped themselves by having combined for the 3rd most INTs in the league. Is the quarterback play bad? Yes. but I'm not certain it's the fault of the quarterbacks. The line, playcalling, and receivers have been monumentally bad.

 

[Beaumont]

I expect the Raiders to draft Brady Quinn, at which point I will box all my Raiders stuff and mail it to Oakland and declare my free agency as a fan.I think Moss is gone after this year. It's clear that he's given up on the team and I don't see why they would want to keep him, especially with Curry coming along and being the go-to guy. I don't have a clue about Porter.Brooks may be kept around with a restructured contract since Walter doesn't look ready to take over. Walsh has to go as OC, no question about this. He's just plain terrible.

Why not Troy Smith? I don't follow college much so I don't know if he's going back to school next season. But with Davis' man-love of Heisman Trophy winners does Smith have a shot at being #1? Or does Al only like them after they've bombed in the NFL, with a few exceptions.

Hi Mad,Smith is a senior, so he's coming out and definitely will be an option I expect the Raiders to look at. Right now, Quinn, Stanton, and Smith represent the top-3 quarterbacks we know will be in the draft. and all 3 should expect to be drafted on Day 1.While it's easy to pile on their QB play recently since it's been so bad, I tend to think of it another way: Walter, Collins, and Brooks are all VERY different quarterbacks in style, substance, and strengths. The fact that none of the three has been able to experience even remote success indicates to me that perhaps the QBs aren't the issue. Heck, even Gannon/Mirer in '03 was an offensive disaster. With the exception of Gannon, none of these guys is a superb quarterback, but they aren't the worst on earth. For example, Aaron Brooks completion % this season is actually BETTER then his career average. However, his YPA are off by more than a yard, which is terrible. The line can't keep anyone out of the backfield, so the deep pass in Oakland has gone the way of the dodo. It wouldn't matter anyway since the WRs aren't running very fast or trying very hard. Walter/Brooks combined have been sacked on passes 77 times so far this season and haven't helped themselves by having combined for the 3rd most INTs in the league. Is the quarterback play bad? Yes. but I'm not certain it's the fault of the quarterbacks. The line, playcalling, and receivers have been monumentally bad.

Oakland's line is monumentally bad.So many teams need OL help. Houston. Seattle. KC. Tampa. So many others. More teams should follow the lead of the Jets and look to get top level o-line talent and stop scrounging for skill position players IMHO.

 

[Z-Dog]

Moss is a goner - anyone coming in to clean house will insist on that, I think. Moss may have some trade value, I don't know his contract details.

I find it hard to believe that Porter will get traded, or will fetch more than a 5th or 6th rounder.

Jordan will probably stay. They saw enough from him last year to know that he can be the main man, and he's not a problem in the locker room. They also don't have a backup who has shown much.

I think it would be tough to ignore Quinn in the draft, even as some people are now tempering their expectations and suggesting that he may not be a franchise QB. Quinn is a terrific prospect and a boon for a team that has pretty much squat at the QB position. I don't think Brooks will be back, but I do expect one of the veteran QBs to land in Oakland as well.

 

[Bruno2]

What I think should happen.

1. Al Davis finally swallows his pride and realizes the game has passed him by, and he hires an actual GM from outside the organization that can bring energy and a new philosophy to the Raiders' front office.

2. Fire Art Shell and all offensive coaches, and bring in an young, energetic firey offensive minded head coach to install a 21st century offense.

3. Revamp the the OL, give up on Gallery as an OT and move him to guard. Draft or acquire top talent at OT positions.

4. Draft a QB, let him hold a clipboard for a year behind Brooks or another veteran QB. Keep Jordan. When healthy, he's a hard-nosed runner and he's a good lockeroom presence from what I've read about him. Build better depth behind him at RB so he doesn't have to carry the full load, hopefully keeping him fresher and healthy. Get rid of Moss and Porter. There's plenty of WR talent in the league.

5. Keep Rob Ryan and defensive coordinators, and leave the defense alone. Although they will probably need to replace Sapp, if he decides to retire.

What will probably happen.

1. Al Davis will not give up control of the team, and thinks the team is a player or two away from making a playoff run.

2. In the draft he goes after the fastest player, because speed kills after all, and drafts another CB or WR.

3. The team suffers through another dismal season. Davis is convinced the Raiders are on the verge of greatness and the cycle repeats itself again and again.

 

[Garrett]

Oakland's line is monumentally bad.So many teams need OL help. Houston. Seattle. KC. Tampa. So many others. More teams should follow the lead of the Jets and look to get top level o-line talent and stop scrounging for skill position players IMHO.

Yeah, they could draft a guy like Robert Gallery.

 

[dlptown]

As sad as it is considering where they are now, local but not a big fan, the Raiders were at the Super Bowl not long ago......

The line sucks. Period. Porter and Moss should go and they could move forward next year with Curry, Gabriel and look at the draft. Their defense has a lot of young talent with Morrison, Asomugha and Burgess, but they could still improve on putting pressure on the QB.

 

[dabed]

Mike Lombardi is expected to get rolled.

 

[raidergil]

Oakland's line is monumentally bad.So many teams need OL help. Houston. Seattle. KC. Tampa. So many others. More teams should follow the lead of the Jets and look to get top level o-line talent and stop scrounging for skill position players IMHO.

Yeah, they could draft a guy like Robert Gallery.

and then a guy like Grove a round later. And the Jets followed the exact plan a few yrs later with Ferguson and Mangold. Raiders had a great plan but you can't much help it if the can't misses go bust.