"Racist" Halloween Costumes Cause For Expulsion? (1 Viewer)

[glvsav37]

That is dumb and nothing at all like the Freddie Gray costume. I hope nobody bothers you or your daughter- if anything imo it's an honor and a sign of progress that a white kid wants to do fully embrace another culture.

you would be surprised as to how wrong this idea is in some people's eyes.

not mine, but it is an issue that is getting a lot of momentum. 

 

[Tom Servo]

Uh oh. You're THAT guy.

And you’re that OTHER guy. 

 

[Dan Lambskin]

And you’re that OTHER guy. 

And you’re that OTHER guy. 

And you’re that OTHER guy. 

And you’re that OTHER guy. 

And you’re that OTHER guy. 

Calm down Tom

 

[Ilov80s]

you would be surprised as to how wrong this idea is in some people's eyes.

not mine, but it is an issue that is getting a lot of momentum. 

Oh I know and I don't get it at all. I get maybe dressing up as a stereotypical Native- to them that isn't a costume, it's the clothing of their culture. However, a Disney character is bit beyond me. 

 

[Steve Tasker]

"#####s broke out"

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all good!

my thoughts

 

[Ilov80s]

I didn't compare "social feelings"

I pointed out that there are #######s who will use a news tragedy to make for an "iconic" (in their ####ty eyes) halloween costume. It doesn't make it "racist" though. 

 

 Does not make it racist, but also feels like it definitely would be most appreciated by racists. 

 

[Tom Servo]

Calm down Tom

I hit the post button too many times.

 

[glvsav37]

 Does not make it racist, but also feels like it definitely would be most appreciated by racists. 

And someone in a JBR costume would be appreciated by psychopathic kidnapping pedophile killers. 

Can't we just call it a POS and move on? Bad taste is bad taste.

 

[Ilov80s]

I want to be a bothersexual - one who gets their rocks off on the daily outrage, more ridiculous the better - for Halloween. What should i wear?

I can't agree here. Mocking a real human being's death is deserving of outrage. 

I want to dress up as the person that gets their rocks off finding stories of people that outraged. That's the real fd up mindset. Getting angry at people because other people are angry about something wholly unrelated to you? Getting mad at someone because they are upset about a persons tragic death being mocked? It's pretty clear who has the issues in that situation. 

 

[Ilov80s]

And someone in a JBR costume would be appreciated by psychopathic kidnapping pedophile killers. 

Can't we just call it a POS and move on? Bad taste is bad taste.

Exactly which makes me think that both of these are way way beyond taste. 

 

[wikkidpissah]

I can't agree here. Mocking a real human being's death is deserving of outrage. 

I want to dress up as the person that gets their rocks off finding stories of people that outraged. That's the real fd up mindset. Getting angry at people because other people are angry about something wholly unrelated to you? Getting mad at someone because they are upset about a persons tragic death being mocked? It's pretty clear who has the issues in that situation. 

now do i return the favor by saying exactly what you are saying? i dont know this game...

 

[Ilov80s]

now do i return the favor by saying exactly what you are saying? i dont know this game...

I am not outraged. I am just holding up the mirror, playing therapist if you will. 

 

[wikkidpissah]

I am not outraged. I am just holding up the mirror, playing therapist if you will. 

I am not outraged. I am just holding up the mirror, playing therapist if you will. 

 

[Ilov80s]

I am not outraged. I am just holding up the mirror, playing therapist if you will. 

We have to go double date to the party, can't have one without the other. 

 

[wikkidpissah]

We have to go double date to the party, can't have one without the other. 

tango, i lead. you can lead all the others

 

[the rover]

nothing...that term is used way too broadly and has really lost its meaning. 

I got into a discussion w/someone at work about it. I made a joke with a Chinese accent and someone called it "Racist" When in reality, it wasn't racist but instead stereotypical. But they could not see the difference. 

Supplies!

 

[Ilov80s]

tango, i lead. you can lead all the others

Sounds hot

 

[EYLive]

I hit the post button too many times.

Too eager to defend the guy that mocks minorities? Yeah, it happens.

 

[Wrigley]

One of my daughters is going as a unicorn, hope nobody is offended. 

 

[kentric]

If they investigated every student who "represented" the college and did some dumb #### they wouldn't have many students left.

Particularly that college. 

I doubt they have many events surrounding their students which have received this level of publicity/visibility.  You think the student caught smoking pot in his dorm room will get the attention that this kid will get.  It is like comparing the Duke Lacrosse Team to the Duke Hockey Team as far as relevance to the school.

 

[Politician Spock]

If the school has a coed of conduct that students are suppose to uphold

I don't know what this is, but it sounds hot. 

 

[kentric]

One of my daughters is going as a unicorn, hope nobody is offended. 

You better have a firm talking to with your daughter.  She is headed down the wrong path.  That is a gateway outfit for sure.

 

[Thunderlips]

I have a question about "black face". It seems that it's frowned upon in ALL circumstances but what if a white person just wants to portray a black character in a respectful manner?

I remember a couple years back when Julianne Hough got backlash for dressing as "Crazy Eyes". She ended up apologizing but I don't know....it didn't seem to be mean spirited or racist in any way.

Thoughts?

Timshowicjie?

I don't think you need black face. I wouldn't expect a black dude who wanted to be Superman to paint his face tan.

I'm a white dude  who looks like a cross between Ralph Malph and Richie Cunningham.  One of these years, I'm going to go out as Lando Calrissian (we have similar hair).  People are going to just have to deal with it. 

 

[Kanil]

Ahhh, more poor babies offended by stupid sh@@. Better run to mommy and get some comfort. The people in this country are a joke. Why don't all of these whiny babies move to another country. They do know I hope they don't have to stay here.

... he whined.

 

[Hawkeye21]

I don't know what this is, but it sounds hot. 

Took me a bit to realize what you were talking about.  I fixed the typo.

 

[kentric]

Took me a bit to realize what you were talking about.  I fixed the typo.

For shame....

 

[Zegras11]

One of my daughters is going as a unicorn, hope nobody is offended. 

one of my RE agent friends dressed as a rainbow unicorn pooping skittles.

 

[Galileo]

We live in very Hyper Times.  And that goes across the board.

Brutal times to start a career as an insult comic.

Is that even possible in this age?  I suppose you can still make fun of yourself.

 

[Gawain]

Is that even possible in this age?  I suppose you can still make fun of yourself.

Yo momma is so black, her ethnic diversity should be celebrated and to pretend to understand her plight would be horribly insensitive cultural appropriation.

 

[Boston]

Yo momma is so black, her ethnic diversity should be celebrated and to pretend to understand her plight would be horribly insensitive cultural appropriation.

Excuse me but the correct start of that joke is...yo person...

 

[Hilts]

I have a question about "black face". It seems that it's frowned upon in ALL circumstances but what if a white person just wants to portray a black character in a respectful manner?

I remember a couple years back when Julianne Hough got backlash for dressing as "Crazy Eyes". She ended up apologizing but I don't know....it didn't seem to be mean spirited or racist in any way.

Thoughts?

Timshowicjie?

Is black face ever acceptable? No.

 

[Ilov80s]

Not that I'm defending the university here, as I think we live in outrageously PC times, but the university has the right to uphold its public image. If they felt this shines a poor light on the university, that's entirely within their right to expel the kid.

Unfortunately this is just another thing individuals have to take into account with social media and constant cameras around these days, nothing stays within an enclosed social circle anymore.

I agree, it's difficult to be young today as any mistake can end up spread across your school or even country. I would also say, it might be for the best that some of these things do get exposed. Some of the mistakes people are making aren't just slips of the tongue or bad puns but actually reveal some concerning character flaws and lack of judgement. Also, they can serve as really good teaching tools for others on how to behave. I am not just talking costumes but all the things that get shared out there- bullying, catfishing, drinking and driving, etc. 

 

[OrtonToOlsen]

"#####s broke out"

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all good!

Oof

 

[Gawain]

Is black face ever acceptable? No.

Lethal Weapon 6 is one of the greatest pieces of cinema ever.

 

[jhib]

One of my daughters is going as a unicorn, hope nobody is offended. 

I'm guessing a white unicorn? I mean, they're pretty much always white, aren't they?  Maybe with little rainbow mane so it's not quite as obvious.  

And let's not even talk about the obvious symbol of male power. 



Happy Halloween!

 

[jon_mx]

I am offended by all Holloween costumes except the hot chicks dressed as sluts.  Those are acceptable.  

 

[James Daulton]

I agree, it's difficult to be young today as any mistake can end up spread across your school or even country. I would also say, it might be for the best that some of these things do get exposed. Some of the mistakes people are making aren't just slips of the tongue or bad puns but actually reveal some concerning character flaws and lack of judgement. Also, they can serve as really good teaching tools for others on how to behave. I am not just talking costumes but all the things that get shared out there- bullying, catfishing, drinking and driving, etc. 

How does the university even come into play here?  This was at a high school party in Maryland and the kid wasn't wearing anything to identify himself as a student.  Someone just saw the social media and knew he went there, so now they're investigating.  In my opinion that's ridiculous. 

 

[Niles Standish]

How does the university even come into play here?  This was at a high school party in Maryland and the kid wasn't wearing anything to identify himself as a student.  Someone just saw the social media and knew he went there, so now they're investigating.  In my opinion that's ridiculous. 

Shouldn't you wait to be outraged until the University does something you disagree with?  Instead of being outraged at what they might possibly maybe do?

 

[Juxtatarot]

How does the university even come into play here?  This was at a high school party in Maryland and the kid wasn't wearing anything to identify himself as a student.  Someone just saw the social media and knew he went there, so now they're investigating.  In my opinion that's ridiculous. 

If someone goes on a racist twitter rant, should his employer be allowed to fire him?

 

[James Daulton]

Shouldn't you wait to be outraged until the University does something you disagree with?  Instead of being outraged at what they might possibly maybe do?

I'm not outraged I just think the university getting involved is stupid.  If this happened on university property and at a university event I'd understand.

 

[Boston]

If someone goes on a racist twitter rant, should his employer be allowed to fire him?

Ask ESPN...

 

[James Daulton]

If someone goes on a racist twitter rant, should his employer be allowed to fire him?

You're putting yourself out there on twitter.  This dude had his picture taken and that was put on social media.  And he doesn't work for the university, in fact I'd say that this would have had nothing to do with them if they hadn't felt the need to be so excruciatingly pc. 

 

[Ilov80s]

How does the university even come into play here?  This was at a high school party in Maryland and the kid wasn't wearing anything to identify himself as a student.  Someone just saw the social media and knew he went there, so now they're investigating.  In my opinion that's ridiculous. 

This is right from their student handbook:

1. Student Affairs officials shall determine, on a case-by-case basis, whether an incident that occurs off campus adversely affects the College’s mission or members of the College community in pursuit of their institutional and educational goals and thus falls within the scope of the Honor System. As an urban campus situated in the heart of Charleston, clearly, good relations with the City of Charleston and our Charleston neighbors are essential to the overall mission of the College. Accordingly, Student Affairs shall have discretion to exercise jurisdiction over conduct which occurs off-campus. 2. In determining whether or not to exercise off-campus jurisdiction in such cases, the Student Affairs officials will consider the number of complaints, the seriousness of the alleged offense, whether drugs and/or alcohol are involved, the risk of harm involved, whether the alleged victim(s) are members of the campus community or surrounding neighborhoods and/or whether the off-campus conduct is part of a series of actions which occurred both on and off campus.

Here is another piece

The purpose of this handbook is to assist you in understanding your rights, freedoms and responsibilities as a student. This handbook is an official publication of the College. As a student, you will be held accountable for its contents. This means that while officially enrolled at the College you are responsible for abiding by its rules, which are intended to facilitate and sustain, in an orderly fashion, the on-going business of the College. For its part, the College has committed itself to your holistic development and to the support of those regulations designed to enhance and protect your individual rights.

"At the core of the College of Charleston community are individuals from diverse backgrounds whose lives are intertwined in support of the uplifting of the human condition through comprehensive studies.  As with all communities, there is a moral code of ethical behavior that binds participants together and a body of official rules and regulations that defines personal freedoms and responsibilities.  The latter is codified in our Honor Code and Code of Conduct.  They apply to all members of the college community and are intended to promote an atmosphere of trust and fairness in the classroom and in the conduct of daily campus life."  StudentHandbook of the College of Charleston

 

[Ignoramus]

Does this include the people calling for the firing of players who kneel quietly during the national anthem?

Whoa, whoa, whoa. That's totally different. Those are brown people kneeling, for starters. 

 

[James Daulton]

This is right from their student handbook:

Here is another piece

So basically the university reserves the right to pass judgement on you no matter where you or what you do.  Awesome.

 

[Ilov80s]

So basically the university reserves the right to pass judgement on you no matter where you or what you do.  Awesome.

You represent the university just as you represent your employer. It's not about passing judgement, it's about the image and name of the school. Nobody is forcing him to attend that college. Nobody forced him to go out in public mocking a person that killed by the police without just cause. You want to mock someone like that, you have to deal with the consequences. One of those consequences is that your school is not going to be happy about it and your fellow students as well as school staff might provide consequences. 

 

[James Daulton]

You represent the university just as you represent your employer. It's not about passing judgement, it's about the image and name of the school. Nobody is forcing him to attend that college. 

You, and the university obviously, have a more heightened definition of representation than I do.  

And I'm not suggesting the guys not a #####, he surely is, but to me this "can't offend any group and if so you must be expelled" pc nonsense has gone to far.  And I know the university hasn't acted yet. 

 

[TakiToki]

You represent the university just as you represent your employer. It's not about passing judgement, it's about the image and name of the school. Nobody is forcing him to attend that college. 

College of Charleston is a public university having much more stringent obligations with respect to free speech than a typical private employer. The ACLU was critical of OU expelling the fraternity students involved in the racist chant that made it onto Youtube.

Not making a claim about this particular situation and the university's rights, just saying that a public university is far different from a private employer in these matters.

 

[Ilov80s]

You, and the university obviously, have a more heightened definition of representation than I do.  

And I'm not suggesting the guys not a #####, he surely is, but to me this "can't offend any group and if so you must be expelled" pc nonsense has gone to far.  And I know the university hasn't acted yet. 

He chose to attend a school. The school has a policy of conduct. He chose to do something which most people would see as offensive and awful. He did it in public. He is an adult. He now has to deal with the consequences. This is life.

As for the "can't offend any group..." What group of human beings doesn't have a problem with mocking someone that was murdered? It has nothing to do with being politically correct. This is a real f'd up thing he did. 

 

[Ilov80s]

College of Charleston is a public university having much more stringent obligations with respect to free speech than a typical private employer. The ACLU was critical of OU expelling the fraternity students involved in the racist chant that made it onto Youtube.

Not making a claim about this particular situation and the university's rights, just saying that a public university is far different from a private employer in these matters.

I agree- it's an imperfect analogy. The school does have some leeway in these type of situations though to enforce codes of  conduct- even off campus.