Rams trading #2 pick (1 Viewer)

[Gawain]

The St. Louis Rams have decided to trade the No. 2 pick, league sources said Monday.

According to sources, the Rams already have had trade discussions with the Cleveland Browns (No. 4), Washington Redskins (No. 6) and Miami Dolphins (No. 8), each of whom is scheduled to pick in the top eight in April's draft.

Looking for a package close to what the Chargers got for #1 when Eli was drafted.Story

Kind of amazing when you look at the parallels between 1998 and 2012. Colts have the same choice as they did 14 years ago. Two QB's who are going to go #1/2 in the draft with the Rams moving down. One a multi-year star, while the other burst onto the scene the year before the draft. Made the right choice in 1998, not so sure about 2012.

 

[The Comedian]

It's going to be a long two months.

 

[Gawain]

It's going to be a long two months.

:honda: ??Looked at the first three pages.

 

[The Comedian]

It's going to be a long two months.

:honda: ??Looked at the first three pages.

No, sorry, just talking about these kinds of "reports" in general.Pretty sure the Rams will trade the pick based on whether or not they get the right offer, not because they decided in February to do it.

 

[cstu]

The Rams want a deal like the one worked out between the San Diego Chargers and New York Giants in 2004.The Chargers took Eli Manning with the first pick, and traded him to the Giants for two first-round selections, a third-round pick and a fifth-round pick. The Chargers got quarterback Philip Rivers and linebacker Shawne Merriman with those draft picks.

The Rams can want a lot of things, but good luck.

 

[Mr. Peterson]

The Rams want a deal like the one worked out between the San Diego Chargers and New York Giants in 2004.The Chargers took Eli Manning with the first pick, and traded him to the Giants for two first-round selections, a third-round pick and a fifth-round pick. The Chargers got quarterback Philip Rivers and linebacker Shawne Merriman with those draft picks.

And all the Giants got was two lousy Super Bowl rings...

 

[Daywalker]

Crazy not to draft Griffin. Get what you can for Bradford.

 

[Tackling Dummies]

Crazy not to draft Griffin. Get what you can for Bradford.

Bradford's contract is crazy and nobody wants a pice of that, especially w/ the new rookie cap.

 

[CentralPA]

Crazy not to draft Griffin. Get what you can for Bradford.

He'll becoming into his 3rd year and so far he's absolute poo to work with minus Steven Jackson. I agree Griffin is going to be stellar but I still think Bradford can be a Pro Bowl QB.

 

[Zimm]

John Clayton said that he suspects only the Redskins and Browns will be able to afford the number 2 pick, but i think there could be a sleeper team or two in play.

 

[MAC_32]

John Clayton said that he suspects only the Redskins and Browns will be able to afford the number 2 pick, but i think there could be a sleeper team or two in play.

Stephen Ross is just concerned about flash as Dan Snyder, the difference is Snyder now has Shanny to bring him back to Earth. Ross doesn't have anyone. We'll see how much pull Philbin really has in their negotiations with Flynn.I only see a mystery team emerging if Manning and Flynn fill the vacancies in Miami and Washington. Since I don't think Cleveland will pay what the Rams want I could see a mystery team emerging then. Denver?

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Crazy not to draft Griffin. Get what you can for Bradford.

It's nto so crazy if they get one of those rumored packages from the Skins. Are we so certain that Griffin will be better than Bradford? Bradford had a fine rookie season, and struggled last year with a new system and injuries. He looks like the real deal when I've watched him. I think Griffin is as well, but why not reap the benefits of moving down a few spots and getting all those extra picks?

 

[jurb26]

St.L could get a nice package for Bradford and if he grades out as a better QB then I don't see why St. L wouldn't consider that option. If you can upgrade your most critical position on the team, QB, then you do it as far as I'm concerned. Especially in the Rams current situation.

 

[3nOut]

Any chance the Rams trade down, trade SJax, and draft Trent Richardson? They can build a good young nucleus very quickly if they do that. The question is what could they get for SJax and who would take him?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Crazy not to draft Griffin. Get what you can for Bradford.

That would be stupid for the Rams and great for whichever of about 25 teams that got Bradford.

 

[greenf7cat]

John Clayton said that he suspects only the Redskins and Browns will be able to afford the number 2 pick, but i think there could be a sleeper team or two in play.

Just a gut feeling, but I have that feeling that KC is the sleeper team. Not sure why. Shefter said that a team outside the top 10 is the sleeper, and KC sits at 11.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

John Clayton said that he suspects only the Redskins and Browns will be able to afford the number 2 pick, but i think there could be a sleeper team or two in play.

Just a gut feeling, but I have that feeling that KC is the sleeper team. Not sure why. Shefter said that a team outside the top 10 is the sleeper, and KC sits at 11.

I think it's Jacksonville. Maybe Arizona.

 

[azgroover]

John Clayton said that he suspects only the Redskins and Browns will be able to afford the number 2 pick, but i think there could be a sleeper team or two in play.

Just a gut feeling, but I have that feeling that KC is the sleeper team. Not sure why. Shefter said that a team outside the top 10 is the sleeper, and KC sits at 11.

I think it's Jacksonville. Maybe Arizona.

Doubt it's the Cards. They got their QB last year when General Manager Larry Fitzgerald haggled over his own contract until they signed his handpicked guy, Kevin Kolb.

 

[Buckna]

Trading Bradford is extremely unlikely. The Rams would take a $14M dead money cap hit this year and the trading team would have to take on a huge contract that he would probably be unlikely to renegotiate.

They'd be much better off trading down for as big a package as possible and adding some pieces around Bradford like a WR that can catch and some offensive-line help to keep him upright. Just the fact that Josh McDaniels is no longer there should help immensely.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I think it's Jacksonville. Maybe Arizona.

Doubt it's the Cards. They got their QB last year when General Manager Larry Fitzgerald haggled over his own contract until they signed his handpicked guy, Kevin Kolb.

Yeah. But he sucked.Link

SHOULD THE CARDINALS KEEP KEVIN KOLB OR CUT HIM?

Arizona Cardinals quarterback Kevin Kolb didn’t exactly astound the fans in Tempe with his skills under center during the 2011 season. Subsequently, many people have begun speculating about his future with the team.

In the opinion of NFL Network correspondent Jason La Canfora, the Cardinals would be able to cut ties with Kolb this spring without suffering serious fiscal repercussions. And if this were to happen (or if Arizona were to broker a trade), Colb may be headed to Cleveland.

In many ways, such a move would make sense both for Colb and for the Cardinals. As Browns beat writer Tony Grossi has observed, Kolb excels when playing in a West Coast offense, a type of offense that Arizona decidedly doesn’t use.

For his part, Kolb has even expressed his own difficulties in adapting to the Cardinals’ offense this past season. In fact, it’s unlikely that Kolb ever did so, at least not completely — his lack of command over the offense and injuries both prevented Kolb from proving himself to be the marquee quarterback for which Arizona and its fans were hoping.

Instead, the Cardinals’ administration and the team’s faithful are likely to remember the latter part of the season, which was primarily spearheaded by Colb’s understudy, John Skelton. During that run, the Cardinals managed some close wins against the Rams (twice), the Browns, the Eagles, the Cowboys, the 49ers and the Seahawks. Significantly, Kolb only started during one of those wins (Cowboys, Week 13), while the rest saw Skelton as a starter; not to mention, three of those wins during this time were in Overtime as well.

So will Skelton ultimately become Arizona’s franchise quarterback? With Matt Flynn on the market and a host of skilled young quarterbacks available in the draft, it isn’t likely. However, as some experts have observed, Kolb might do very well in the Browns’ system, which runs a West Coast Offense similar to the one under which Kolb played in Philadelphia.

But what about Colt McCoy, you may ask? Well, not to long ago, Browns president Mike Holmgren said that he had numerous reservations about naming McCoy (who only had four wins last season) as the team’s starting quarterback this fall. Kolb’s own status with the Cardinals could mean that he’s in an ideal position to fill Cleveland’s needs — that is, assuming he’s either released or put up for trade.

As for the Cardinals’ financial incentives to either cut or trade Kolb — as part of the trade from the Eagles, Kolb agreed to a 5-year contract extension worth a maximum of $63.5 million, with $21 million guaranteed. That deal also included a $7 million roster bonus by next month (March) that the Cardinals could sidestep if Kolb were to be cut loose. Additionally, as La Canfora observes, Kolb’s $9 million salary and $2 million roster bonus for the 2013 season would be eliminated, and the Cardinals would only suffer minor salary cap penalties as a result.

Thus far, the Cardinals’ front office hasn’t released any decision regarding Kolb’s future with the franchise; however, if he stays on the roster, he’ll be counting $10.5 million against the team’s 2012 cap. By contrast, Skelton will earn a measly $490,000 in 2012, which is barely a fraction of what Kolb is scheduled make.

From a purely pragmatic perspective for this coming season, then, Arizona would do much better to spend that $7 million bonus on a linebacker or a receiver. The same is true in the long-term for the Cardinals as well — it would be an excellent move to cut (or trade) Kolb and stoically suffer the cap penalty, just so the team could fill its needs at other positions. And were Arizona to be absolutely unwilling to start Skelton, the team could easily try and grab Matt Flynn or trade up in the draft for a chance to get a quarterback (as we previously mentioned).

On the other hand, it’s hard to believe the Cardinals have now used a top 10 first round pick on one quarterback and then later given up both a starting cornerback and 2nd round pick for another one. If the administration cuts Kolb, they will effectively be admitting defeat with nothing to show for either one of those transactions — and with that in mind, it’s not entirely clear that the franchise is ready to take that step.

In all likelihood, Kolb will return in a Cardinals uniform this fall, even if it isn’t the best possible outcome either for himself or for his team.

 

[greenf7cat]

John Clayton said that he suspects only the Redskins and Browns will be able to afford the number 2 pick, but i think there could be a sleeper team or two in play.

Just a gut feeling, but I have that feeling that KC is the sleeper team. Not sure why. Shefter said that a team outside the top 10 is the sleeper, and KC sits at 11.

I think it's Jacksonville. Maybe Arizona.

I don't doubt at all that Jax would move on from Gabbert...he stunk last year but what would that move cost them financially? Would they be able to get anything in return for him?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I don't doubt at all that Jax would move on from Gabbert...he stunk last year but what would that move cost them financially? Would they be able to get anything in return for him?

What would it cost them if they don't? New GM. New owner looking to make a splash. Salary cap implications under the new CBA not that bad (His contract was 4/$12 - fully guaranteed though)...it adds up.

 

[DeCleater]

The Rams could get stiffed come April. If Flynn goes to Miami and Manning to Washington, Cleveland may just sit tight and get RG3. Would KC or Seattle make the jump to #2? That would be giving up at least 2 first round picks plus. A lot of dominos have to fall between now and April 26th.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

I don't doubt at all that Jax would move on from Gabbert...he stunk last year but what would that move cost them financially? Would they be able to get anything in return for him?

What would it cost them if they don't? New GM. New owner looking to make a splash. Salary cap implications under the new CBA not that bad (His contract was 4/$12 - fully guaranteed though)...it adds up.

They could always trade gabbert to a team that kinda needs a QB and then go after RGIII. Seattle, KC, 49ers, arizona, NYJ, Houston, Denver

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I don't doubt at all that Jax would move on from Gabbert...he stunk last year but what would that move cost them financially? Would they be able to get anything in return for him?

What would it cost them if they don't? New GM. New owner looking to make a splash. Salary cap implications under the new CBA not that bad (His contract was 4/$12 - fully guaranteed though)...it adds up.

They could always trade gabbert to a team that kinda needs a QB and then go after RGIII. Seattle, KC, 49ers, arizona, NYJ, Houston, Denver

No they couldn't.

 

[David Yudkin]

Any chance the Rams trade down, trade SJax, and draft Trent Richardson? They can build a good young nucleus very quickly if they do that. The question is what could they get for SJax and who would take him?

I'm not sure there is a big market for a 29 year old, high carry back that would cost $7 million a year. He's already had over 2500 touches in his career. Through age 28, he ranks 9th all time in terms of most touches.Running backs generally don't command much in a trade. Maybe they could get a 3rd round for him.

 

[yellowdog]

I don't doubt at all that Jax would move on from Gabbert...he stunk last year but what would that move cost them financially? Would they be able to get anything in return for him?

What would it cost them if they don't? New GM. New owner looking to make a splash. Salary cap implications under the new CBA not that bad (His contract was 4/$12 - fully guaranteed though)...it adds up.

They could always trade gabbert to a team that kinda needs a QB and then go after RGIII. Seattle, KC, 49ers, arizona, NYJ, Houston, Denver

No they couldn't.

That team would still need a quarterback.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Any chance the Rams trade down, trade SJax, and draft Trent Richardson? They can build a good young nucleus very quickly if they do that. The question is what could they get for SJax and who would take him?

I'm not sure there is a big market for a 29 year old, high carry back that would cost $7 million a year. He's already had over 2500 touches in his career. Through age 28, he ranks 9th all time in terms of most touches.Running backs generally don't command much in a trade. Maybe they could get a 3rd round for him.

If they could, they should take it and run.

 

[FunkyPlutos]

I'm not sure the Rams will get the windfall they are hoping for...the Vikings will trade the #3 for a lot less than the Rams will trade the #2, so unless someone really wants to break the bank, I think teams could just wait for the Rams to pick and then start the trading.

Of course you don't want to lose out on RG3 but if the Rams hold out for a megadeal, they could end up losing out on gaining the extra picks.

 

[Bracie Smathers]

Schefter is on record for filing this report. He's very gaurded in his reports so I've come to pay attention to any reports like this that he files that make a declarative statement.

The ESPN report nentioned the Eli Manning deal which turned out to be two number-one draft choices, a third round pick and a fifth round pick.

Schefter says they will get 'at least' that much. (Adam's emphasis on 'at least')

Let me throw a bit of cold water on the hype.

The combine has decreased in importance. The primary thing that is determined is the raw numbers, ht. wt. strength speed are important numbers only if a guy falls outside of what is expected. The most important thing is the medical history is checked out and its the first time to sit down and talk with the kids. Film is still the primary way plyaers are evaluated, the combine has taken less significance with the NFL but more with the media and the fans.

RG III's height issue was phoney from the begining. Anyone who saw him at the Heisman awards standing next to other guys saw he was at least 6'2. Everyone knew he was fast. He didn't work out, he didn't throw. So the hype is based off of nothing but the media needing a story and the fans desparately wanting a story. RG III is a great prospect but come on what did we really find out that we didn't already know before the combine? I think it will be hysterical to watch people lose their minds if he throws and hits on fifty of fifty passes in his pro day. the hype machince will go bonkers declaring that the Rams wil get TEN NUMBER ONE DRAFT PICKS! LOL

Schefter. "Expect to see them get what the Chargers got for Eli. Two number-ones, a third round pick, and a fifth round pick."

 

[SayWhat?]

People need to stop saying that there's any chance that RGIII falls past #2 now, regardless of the reasoning (e.g. the Rams get greedy and want too much in trade so a deal for #2 falls through, other QB needy teams fill their hole at QB so noboby trades up to #2, etc). There is zero chance he doesn't go at #2 overall now, therefore no chance that Cleveland sits tight and lands him at #4 and no chance that teams may be able to pay a lesser price to the Vikings at #3 to grab him, because he won't be there. Zero chance people. RGIII will be the #2 pick, so now it just depends upon who pays the price to go get him.

 

[Sinrman]

Schefter is on record for filing this report. He's very gaurded in his reports so I've come to pay attention to any reports like this that he files that make a declarative statement.

The ESPN report nentioned the Eli Manning deal which turned out to be two number-one draft choices, a third round pick and a fifth round pick.

Schefter says they will get 'at least' that much. (Adam's emphasis on 'at least')

Let me throw a bit of cold water on the hype.

The combine has decreased in importance. The primary thing that is determined is the raw numbers, ht. wt. strength speed are important numbers only if a guy falls outside of what is expected. The most important thing is the medical history is checked out and its the first time to sit down and talk with the kids. Film is still the primary way plyaers are evaluated, the combine has taken less significance with the NFL but more with the media and the fans.

RG III's height issue was phoney from the begining. Anyone who saw him at the Heisman awards standing next to other guys saw he was at least 6'2. Everyone knew he was fast. He didn't work out, he didn't throw. So the hype is based off of nothing but the media needing a story and the fans desparately wanting a story. RG III is a great prospect but come on what did we really find out that we didn't already know before the combine? I think it will be hysterical to watch people lose their minds if he throws and hits on fifty of fifty passes in his pro day. the hype machince will go bonkers declaring that the Rams wil get TEN NUMBER ONE DRAFT PICKS! LOL

Schefter. "Expect to see them get what the Chargers got for Eli. Two number-ones, a third round pick, and a fifth round pick."

Yep, what he said. I was going to point that out. The Rams would expect something MORE than what the Chargers got in 2004 for Eli. What's funny is that the Giants still got the best of that trade. It shows you how high this pick is considered, since it's the #2 overall, and not the #1 like the trade that Schefter mentioned. I think the smaller rookie contracts really help trades now. A team will stick have to cough up a decent amount of $$, but it won't be some insane contract like Stafford or Bradford got (or dare I say JaMarcus Russell?).

 

[redBourne]

Any chance the Rams trade down, trade SJax, and draft Trent Richardson? They can build a good young nucleus very quickly if they do that. The question is what could they get for SJax and who would take him?

I'm not sure there is a big market for a 29 year old, high carry back that would cost $7 million a year. He's already had over 2500 touches in his career. Through age 28, he ranks 9th all time in terms of most touches.Running backs generally don't command much in a trade. Maybe they could get a 3rd round for him.

If they could, they should take it and run.

No way. He's still the offensive nucleus. He mananged half as many yards as Bradford behind that retchid offensive line while still managing 4.4 yards a carry. While I still agree that he may be toting too many carries, you keep this nucleus and build the offense around him (*not for him). Let me be clear, when I say around him, I don't mean to his strengths, I just mean wihle he's there, perhaps even having a replacement behind him.You would trade away a back that is carrying your offense for some unknown element while the best you have behind him is Cadillac Williams. Not so much sir, not so much .

People need to stop saying that there's any chance that RGIII falls past #2 now, regardless of the reasoning (e.g. the Rams get greedy and want too much in trade so a deal for #2 falls through, other QB needy teams fill their hole at QB so noboby trades up to #2, etc). There is zero chance he doesn't go at #2 overall now, therefore no chance that Cleveland sits tight and lands him at #4 and no chance that teams may be able to pay a lesser price to the Vikings at #3 to grab him, because he won't be there. Zero chance people. RGIII will be the #2 pick, so now it just depends upon who pays the price to go get him.

Agreed. These are my thoughts exactly. The Rams come out as winners here regardless, they just better have a strong draft strategy ready for when they are given the picks they are dealt. But mark my words, they will be given picks and there will be a trade for RG3 here. Someone will bite. Someone always does.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Any chance the Rams trade down, trade SJax, and draft Trent Richardson? They can build a good young nucleus very quickly if they do that. The question is what could they get for SJax and who would take him?

I'm not sure there is a big market for a 29 year old, high carry back that would cost $7 million a year. He's already had over 2500 touches in his career. Through age 28, he ranks 9th all time in terms of most touches.Running backs generally don't command much in a trade. Maybe they could get a 3rd round for him.

If they could, they should take it and run.

No way. He's still the offensive nucleus. He mananged half as many yards as Bradford behind that retchid offensive line while still managing 4.4 yards a carry. While I still agree that he may be toting too many carries, you keep this nucleus and build the offense around him (*not for him). Let me be clear, when I say around him, I don't mean to his strengths, I just mean wihle he's there, perhaps even having a replacement behind him.You would trade away a back that is carrying your offense for some unknown element while the best you have behind him is Cadillac Williams. Not so much sir, not so much .

You bet I would. He's the nucleus of an offense that was part of a team that ended up with the 2nd overall pick in the draft.The guy has maybe one, maybe two, more good seasons left in him. In a pass happy league, having a top RB isn't a necessity and for a rebuilding team, a 3rd round pick is worth the gamble.

 

[jurb26]

You bet I would. He's the nucleus of an offense that was part of a team that ended up with the 2nd overall pick in the draft.The guy has maybe one, maybe two, more good seasons left in him. In a pass happy league, having a top RB isn't a necessity and for a rebuilding team, a 3rd round pick is worth the gamble.

I totally understand the logic behind you're thinking. IMO though, Jackson is simply too good a player (currently) to give up for only a 3rd rd pick. A 2nd, no doubt. 3rd is tough to swallow though.

 

[redBourne]

Trading Bradford is extremely unlikely. The Rams would take a $14M dead money cap hit this year and the trading team would have to take on a huge contract that he would probably be unlikely to renegotiate.They'd be much better off trading down for as big a package as possible and adding some pieces around Bradford like a WR that can catch and some offensive-line help to keep him upright. Just the fact that Josh McDaniels is no longer there should help immensely.

I agree, I can't even consider trading Bradford a possibility. Watching some of the games this year the offensive line was swiss cheese. I don't know if it was the play calling, but it was terrible. I felt sorry for the guy. The last time I saw such horrid line play was for poor David Carr. I do believe there were a lot of under routes that Bradford could get the ball out with though to avoid getting hammered; I just hope he won't get feared so much his career turns into Carr'sSorry, getting back to the point, they should monitor the FAs and trade down to pick up some solid o-line help.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

You bet I would. He's the nucleus of an offense that was part of a team that ended up with the 2nd overall pick in the draft.The guy has maybe one, maybe two, more good seasons left in him. In a pass happy league, having a top RB isn't a necessity and for a rebuilding team, a 3rd round pick is worth the gamble.

I totally understand the logic behind you're thinking. IMO though, Jackson is simply too good a player (currently) to give up for only a 3rd rd pick. A 2nd, no doubt. 3rd is tough to swallow though.

Admittedly, the "of course" factor drops dramatically once you get past pick 3.10-ish.

 

[redBourne]

You bet I would. He's the nucleus of an offense that was part of a team that ended up with the 2nd overall pick in the draft.The guy has maybe one, maybe two, more good seasons left in him. In a pass happy league, having a top RB isn't a necessity and for a rebuilding team, a 3rd round pick is worth the gamble.

I totally understand the logic behind you're thinking. IMO though, Jackson is simply too good a player (currently) to give up for only a 3rd rd pick. A 2nd, no doubt. 3rd is tough to swallow though.

I can understand the logic too. To be honest, my gut reaction to a 3rd was eye-widening. A second sounds a bit more...well I could almost `almost` swallow that pill. But you would still be taking away the nucleus of your offense and risking it on a player that has never played a down in the nfl. Perhaps it's just my perception of SJax being different than that of yours, and me not looking at the reasoning so much as the 1 season stats (last years). However, if you trade away SJax, and you don't consider what you may draft but just look at your team as what it is now:-Terrible oline-No RB whereas you had one that could punch through that terrible oline-Meh WR's-Rookies with potentialI guess it all depends on the oline and the FA's

 

[JAA]

John Clayton said that he suspects only the Redskins and Browns will be able to afford the number 2 pick, but i think there could be a sleeper team or two in play.

really?seriously?

wow!

this is insightful knowledge ...

 

[JAA]

Any chance the Rams trade down, trade SJax, and draft Trent Richardson? They can build a good young nucleus very quickly if they do that. The question is what could they get for SJax and who would take him?

Whats interesting is that they drafted Jackson while still having Faulk for 2 years IIRC

 

[FunkyPlutos]

Robert Griffin III - QB - PlayerSI.com's Peter King confirms the Rams have already received a trade "feeler" for the No. 2 pick from a team "you would never expect."Let the intrigue begin. Our initial guesses are the Chiefs, Eagles, Broncos, and perhaps the Jets. Chiefs coach Romeo Crennel and GM Scott Pioli were blown away by RGIII over the weekend. Griffin told King he "really enjoyed" his time with Andy Reid, and the Eagles have a pair of second-rounders in addition to Asante Samuel and DeSean Jackson to dangle in front of St. Louis. Regardless, the Browns and Redskins remain the heavy favorites to land RGIII.

New England?

 

[JAA]

The Rams could get stiffed come April. If Flynn goes to Miami and Manning to Washington, Cleveland may just sit tight and get RG3. Would KC or Seattle make the jump to #2? That would be giving up at least 2 first round picks plus. A lot of dominos have to fall between now and April 26th.

This is what SD did with Eli, so it depends on how hungry Cle is and ballzy StL is

 

[JAA]

Robert Griffin III - QB - PlayerSI.com's Peter King confirms the Rams have already received a trade "feeler" for the No. 2 pick from a team "you would never expect."Let the intrigue begin. Our initial guesses are the Chiefs, Eagles, Broncos, and perhaps the Jets. Chiefs coach Romeo Crennel and GM Scott Pioli were blown away by RGIII over the weekend. Griffin told King he "really enjoyed" his time with Andy Reid, and the Eagles have a pair of second-rounders in addition to Asante Samuel and DeSean Jackson to dangle in front of St. Louis. Regardless, the Browns and Redskins remain the heavy favorites to land RGIII.

New England?

The Eagles interviewed him. Looks to me like he grades better than McNabb. Will be interesting to see how this plays out as no chance my Birds could not toss in a player or 2 to make this deal.DJax makes a lot of sense. Asante is still a reasonable value with his 31 yr old salary (9mil?)Thats a heck of an upgrade to StL. Birds bring in Plax ... almost makes too much sense

 

[Blackjacks]

As a Rams fan I am expecting Cleveland to end up trading with us for the #2 overall and this is what I am expecting in return.

Cleveland's #4 this year, #22 this year and their 1st round pick in 2013 for the 2nd overall pick in 2012, the Rams 3rd round pick this year and like a 3rd or 4th next year.

Cleveland will end up being the traing partner.......I have no doubt.

 

[redBourne]

Robert Griffin III - QB - PlayerSI.com's Peter King confirms the Rams have already received a trade "feeler" for the No. 2 pick from a team "you would never expect."Let the intrigue begin. Our initial guesses are the Chiefs, Eagles, Broncos, and perhaps the Jets. Chiefs coach Romeo Crennel and GM Scott Pioli were blown away by RGIII over the weekend. Griffin told King he "really enjoyed" his time with Andy Reid, and the Eagles have a pair of second-rounders in addition to Asante Samuel and DeSean Jackson to dangle in front of St. Louis. Regardless, the Browns and Redskins remain the heavy favorites to land RGIII.

New England?

The Eagles interviewed him. Looks to me like he grades better than McNabb. Will be interesting to see how this plays out as no chance my Birds could not toss in a player or 2 to make this deal.DJax makes a lot of sense. Asante is still a reasonable value with his 31 yr old salary (9mil?)Thats a heck of an upgrade to StL. Birds bring in Plax ... almost makes too much sense

This might not be enough for some people, but it makes me a little excited.

 

[Riversco]

Robert Griffin III - QB - PlayerSI.com's Peter King confirms the Rams have already received a trade "feeler" for the No. 2 pick from a team "you would never expect."Let the intrigue begin. Our initial guesses are the Chiefs, Eagles, Broncos, and perhaps the Jets. Chiefs coach Romeo Crennel and GM Scott Pioli were blown away by RGIII over the weekend. Griffin told King he "really enjoyed" his time with Andy Reid, and the Eagles have a pair of second-rounders in addition to Asante Samuel and DeSean Jackson to dangle in front of St. Louis. Regardless, the Browns and Redskins remain the heavy favorites to land RGIII.

New England?

I suggested this before as a possibility. The Patriots have multiple picks, Brady's play could tail off at any time now, and there's a potential franchise QB just sitting there waiting for someone to trade up to get him.

 

[Gandalf]

Though thy already have Mallett who could be that franchise QB and they would keep all their picks.

 

[CentralPA]

Robert Griffin III - QB - PlayerSI.com's Peter King confirms the Rams have already received a trade "feeler" for the No. 2 pick from a team "you would never expect."Let the intrigue begin. Our initial guesses are the Chiefs, Eagles, Broncos, and perhaps the Jets. Chiefs coach Romeo Crennel and GM Scott Pioli were blown away by RGIII over the weekend. Griffin told King he "really enjoyed" his time with Andy Reid, and the Eagles have a pair of second-rounders in addition to Asante Samuel and DeSean Jackson to dangle in front of St. Louis. Regardless, the Browns and Redskins remain the heavy favorites to land RGIII.

New England?

The Eagles interviewed him. Looks to me like he grades better than McNabb. Will be interesting to see how this plays out as no chance my Birds could not toss in a player or 2 to make this deal.DJax makes a lot of sense. Asante is still a reasonable value with his 31 yr old salary (9mil?)Thats a heck of an upgrade to StL. Birds bring in Plax ... almost makes too much sense

I still don't see how they could beat out Cleveland or Washington for the pick. Samuel and Jackson together alone might net you a 2nd and a 6th round pick in value. No. 15 and maybe both 2nds (along with Jackson and Samuels) get's you in the discussion but I just don't know if I see Philly pulling this deal off. I will say St. Louis would love the upgrade at WR and their secondary would be upgraded with Samuel. But I just really don't see this happening.

 

[RUSF18]

As a Niner fan, I hope and pray that STL trades Griffin for a mid 1st rounder and a couple high priced veterans.

 

[Warpig]

I think any team that gives up a windfall of picks for RGIII will end up hurting themselves for many years down the road and will end up having to tear it down and rebuild and that head coach/GM will be doomed.

The combine hype is rearing its ugly head yet again and there are very few people looking at this with a sound mind.

Gawdy stats in college and ridiculous combine numbers do not make a homerun prospect. ESPECIALLY when it comes to QB's. AND ESPECIALLY when it comes to QB's from spread offenses!

The historical data is there, yet people recklessly throw caution to the wind.

I'm not an RGIII basher. I always root for smart, well grounded kids to succeed and I "hope" he does. But where does hope get us? Perhaps we should ask Obama?

There has not been a single QB that came from a spread offense in college to have a successful career in the NFL. At best, they have been career backups.

RGIII doesn't have the stature to take hits from NFL defenses if he decides to run (which he likes to do a lot). He's no Cam Newton.

Spread offenses incorporate A LOT of smoke and mirrors. They are designed to produce crazy stats and accuracy numbers.

Here are just a few names of late that people ooh'd and ahhh'd over but have struggled in the NFL:

Colt Brennan, Graham Harrell, Chase Daniel, Blaine Gabbert, and Tim Tebow.

No way I would give up the haul it's gonna take to draft RGIII. If I were Cleveland, I'd force STL's hand to decide when they are on the clock. They either take RGIII or a Tackle. Then if RGIII falls to #4 perhaps I draft him there. If not, and I'm dead set on a QB, perhaps I look at Tannehill or trade back, or take another piece that I need to improve my team.

I totally need to be a GM!