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Ran a 10k in June (7 Viewers)

I am also heading to ****'s in a few to pick up some gloves. I blistered my hands pretty good.
:unsure: You are really taking your stroking seriously. Awesome weekend of cross training :thumbup:

Think I'm concussed. :X
No Bueno. Though it looks like you've recovered quite well. Awesome run!
Disappointed that I bonked and wasn't in shape. But still had a PR and didn't get injured.
No need for disappointment. Considering your lack of time to train while still getting a PR = :hifive:
Soldier Field 10 Mile race report

1:12:25 .. 7:15/mile .. 172 avg. HR

I don't know that I could have done much better. My HR was in the low 180's for the entire last mile, and that's the best I can sustain for any amount of time. I would have liked to have more running room at the start, and I'd like to know what pace I could have held without turning into strong winds. But it's a very neat event, especially when I get to hang with Wraith!
GREAT race TM!!!!!
Finished my 10k 36th overall(8th in the 30-34 age group...some fast muth####ahs in this race) out of 1079 finishers with a time of 41:12 (PR). Mah watch said I finished in 40:55. :shrug:

Well, not too bad considering it was hot and I drink a six pack the night before. :banned:

After the race I drank a beer for every lap...day wasted... :bye:
You can include your self as one of the the fast muth####ahs! Only a six pack the night before and to follow-up? You are missing some potential for carb loading ;)
Hang 10, tri-man, Benson good #### guys. congrats!

5 miles today 8:49/149. Happy I was able to keep the HR down a bit but knee started bugging me again around mile 4.
Take it easy on that knee. Patience is your friend. Awesome that you got 5 in!
Calves are cramped today, so i'm working them out with that roller. If I don't get hurt in the future because of the roller...I owe somebody some spotted cow :banned:
:excited: :fingerscrossed:
 
Soldier Field 10 mile:

1 1.01 8:47 159 HR

2 1.01 8:34 163 HR

3 1.01 8:35 164 HR

4 1.01 8:47 166 HR

5 1.01 8:27 170 HR

6 1.01 8:37 171 HR

7 1.01 8:38 173 HR

8 1.01 8:34 173 HR

9 1.01 8:50 174 HR

10 0.92 8:53 179 HR

(I know I was running faster than that for the last mile - I'm thinking the tunnel onto the field messed up the Garmin results for both distance and pace. My total time for the last split was 8:09 and I'd guess that was closer to my actual pace)

Summary 1:26:46, 10.01 miles, 8:40 pace - 3016/12845 finishers, 324/816 division (M40-44)

I decided to stay relatively conservative on the front 6, then pick it up from there... as you can see the "pick it up" didn't really happen. My HR was just fine, but I could not get my legs to turn over faster. In fact, my quads were completely fried by the end of the race and I can't explain why. 36 hours later and they are still pretty shot.

Anyway, even though this was my slowest effort at Soldier Field over 6 races, I'm pretty pleased I was able to log 8:40s given that my first outdoor run this year was on April 7. Anything under 9s would have made me happy.
Nice race GB!
Update: Just got back from a 38 mile bike ride with the gf. Glad she decided to come along...obviously at a much slower pace with her than I ;)
Understandable.
Out the door at 5:30 this morning to beat the heat/humidity again. I sweat more today than I did on Sunday's 15. :X Breathing was tough thanks to all of fog rolling thru. 72/95% at the start.

On the schedule was 9mi with 5LT. It was a weird run, but whoa this was fast. At mile 7 (last LT mile) I had to slow myself down or I was going to blow right through LT. I thought I was pushing through the rough breathing, but I was pushing through the pace instead. I donked up the pacing, but encouraged by the strong effort in these crappy conditions. Splits were 7:33/161, 7:34/169, 7:29/172, 7:19/175, 7:39/176 Average = 7:30/171

I say it a lot, but these runs are the best barometer we have for checking our fitness (aside from racing). I'm pretty pumped at the progress so far for 2012.

02/22 - 9/5LT 8:06/176

03/07 - 10/6LT 8:07/175

03/21 - 11/7LT 7:44/174

04/04 - 9/5LT 7:35/174

04/18 - 8/4LT 7:34/174

05/29 - 9/5LT 7:30/171
AWESOME to see your progress Ned!! Especially your HR, even with the added heat!!
Just catching up a bit this morning.

Great racing guys. Wraith, Tri-Man, Hang-10, Benson, and Steel Curtain. Not sure what the weather was like in your areas of the country, but if it was anything like mine, it was not ideal. It was hot and hotter the last couple of days.

As for me, I have been doing a whole lot of nothing lately. I did manage to get in 8 on Friday, but my weekend was ruined by a trip to the ER and lack of sleep. ER was for a kid vs water slide Saturday night. Slide 1, kid 0. Kid is okay after 3 stitches to just above his eye. Dad on the other hand has not recovered from being at the ER until 1 that night. I think that combined with a bit of post marathon blues, I am having trouble to get motivated right now. Too much going on to run either early in the morning or later at night to avoid the heat. I know, excuses, excuses. I am hopefully getting out of it though. We shall see.

Have a great day all.
No fun Bud. Glad he's ok and back at it. _________________________

My Update:

Friday: 60 minutes elliptical followed by an awesome drunkfit workout (beer between each set). 9 of us did the workout and I completed it first by almost a full minute.

Saturday: 5 rounds bench press, then alternated 95 lb shoulder presses with 20 pushups x5; later = P90x Kenpo and Ab Ripper

Sunday: P90x Chest, Shoulders and Triceps

Monday: P90x Plyometrics

Over the weekend I got all of my workouts done by noon, and we smoked meat all three days while drinking beer in the pool til dark :banned: . Our RAGBRAI group is all doing a 2 week diet and it couldn't come at a better time. I have enough meat in me to last the full two weeks.

 
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Great races guys.

Man some of your splits are freaking robot like.

Impressive.

Tried to run with cousin on Sunday, didn't go well. He has been complaining about chest pain a month earlier, then difficulty breathing lately, so we started running Sun and he had to stop at .80 marker, we ended doing 2.80 miles in like 30 minutes and stopped a few time.

The stubborn A hole keeps putting off seeing a doctor.

I am gonna take Ned's advice and just call an ambulance to his house soon.

He said he was gonna go to the doc on Monday, when I texted him in the morning to see if he was there yet he said no,m but he just ran 2.5 and "felt OK"

UGH!

Monday, i got up and wanted to start getting some more distance in on my own.

Hit 5 miles at 48.33

9.54

9.36

9.30

10.00

9.30

felt really good, i did kind cheat, was at a park with trails and I made it a point to only run in the section that was shaded.

 
Out the door at 5:30 this morning to beat the heat/humidity again. I sweat more today than I did on Sunday's 15. :X Breathing was tough thanks to all of fog rolling thru. 72/95% at the start.On the schedule was 9mi with 5LT. It was a weird run, but whoa this was fast. At mile 7 (last LT mile) I had to slow myself down or I was going to blow right through LT. I thought I was pushing through the rough breathing, but I was pushing through the pace instead. I donked up the pacing, but encouraged by the strong effort in these crappy conditions. Splits were 7:33/161, 7:34/169, 7:29/172, 7:19/175, 7:39/176 Average = 7:30/171I say it a lot, but these runs are the best barometer we have for checking our fitness (aside from racing). I'm pretty pumped at the progress so far for 2012.02/22 - 9/5LT 8:06/17603/07 - 10/6LT 8:07/17503/21 - 11/7LT 7:44/17404/04 - 9/5LT 7:35/17404/18 - 8/4LT 7:34/17405/29 - 9/5LT 7:30/171
awesome progress! I'm still pretty new to this but anytime I can see some tangible improvement like that it def keeps me motivated.Not really sure on the max HR at this point. I have a race next week so that should give me a better idea.late congrats to Steel Curtain and Wraith. Great times for your limited training.
 
I say it a lot, but these runs are the best barometer we have for checking our fitness (aside from racing). I'm pretty pumped at the progress so far for 2012.02/22 - 9/5LT 8:06/17603/07 - 10/6LT 8:07/17503/21 - 11/7LT 7:44/17404/04 - 9/5LT 7:35/17404/18 - 8/4LT 7:34/17405/29 - 9/5LT 7:30/171
That's so cool. Trust the training, and let the results happen as the weeks proceed! Good stuff.
 
Guys,

Thanks for the support for my marathon. It was definitely a grind in the last 10K with the heat but after looking into it deeper, I actually held my own pretty well. I'll get a RR up in the next day or two.

Thanks again.

SC

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Ned - you are just on fire with your pacing. Great job!

TriMan/Wraith - nice race! Also, awesome you guys could hang out.

pmbrown_22 - sorry to hear about the marathon hangover. My other marathons I felt the same way, this most recent one has re-energized me. I'm looking forward to getting back out there in a few days. If need be, sign up for a half marathon just to keep you running. Hope your kid is on the mend.

Benson - nice 5K. Damn...that's fast!

Grue - what does TWSS mean? Also, I'm thinking of doing pacing. If I run a 3:47 marathon, is 4:15 pacing reasonable or should I shoot for a 4:30? How hard is it? Can you give me a little insight? I'm interested in giving back in some way and the pacing idea sounds really intriguing.

 
pmbrown_22 - sorry to hear about the marathon hangover.
Right now, I'd gladly take a marathon hangover instead of the real hangover that I've got! :hangover: Gonna try to go run it off over lunch...

Grue - what does TWSS mean? Also, I'm thinking of doing pacing. If I run a 3:47 marathon, is 4:15 pacing reasonable or should I shoot for a 4:30? How hard is it? Can you give me a little insight? I'm interested in giving back in some way and the pacing idea sounds really intriguing.
TWSS = That's What She SaidI'd say that the 4:30 is probably safer. It can be challenging, because you need to be consistent not only mile-by-mile, but also within each mile. In other words, if I'm pacing 3:30, I need to run 8-minute pace, but I can't run the first 3/4 mile at 7:00 pace and the last 1/4 mile at 11:00 pace. That's why I usually set my Garmin to give me half-mile splits when I pace. But like you said, it's a great way to give back, and it's incredibly rewarding.

 
TriMan/Wraith - nice race! Also, awesome you guys could hang out.
Some back story?Are you guys real friends?

Just meet up for this?
I've actually hung out with these guys a couple of times, too. IIRC, the first time we met was for the Rock 'n Roll Chicago Half Marathon in 2009. Mr. and Mrs. 2Young went, too. Last year a whole bunch of us did the Bourbon Chase relay in Kentucky together. It's cool when guys stop being "imaginary" friends and start being "real" friends.
 
pmbrown_22 - sorry to hear about the marathon hangover.
Right now, I'd gladly take a marathon hangover instead of the real hangover that I've got! :hangover: Gonna try to go run it off over lunch...

Grue - what does TWSS mean? Also, I'm thinking of doing pacing. If I run a 3:47 marathon, is 4:15 pacing reasonable or should I shoot for a 4:30? How hard is it? Can you give me a little insight? I'm interested in giving back in some way and the pacing idea sounds really intriguing.
TWSS = That's What She SaidI'd say that the 4:30 is probably safer. It can be challenging, because you need to be consistent not only mile-by-mile, but also within each mile. In other words, if I'm pacing 3:30, I need to run 8-minute pace, but I can't run the first 3/4 mile at 7:00 pace and the last 1/4 mile at 11:00 pace. That's why I usually set my Garmin to give me half-mile splits when I pace. But like you said, it's a great way to give back, and it's incredibly rewarding.
Good point on the pacing within each mile. I didn't even think of that. Once I get my race schedule planned out for the rest of 2012, I'll try to find a race to do. Perhaps I'll start with half marathon. It seems so much more manageable to pace a 2 hour HM than a 4 1/2 hour Marathon.

Thanks! I appreciate it.

 
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Race week and I've got a cold. Hoping most of it has passed me by already. Did a nice 12mi on sat. 7 miles today.

I am going to stick to the no drinking thing this week. Spent Sunday afternoon at a brewery drinking 9.5% ABV for 2hrs, then yesterday was pulled pork, bean dip, and 5 margaritas. My jeans are actually fitting tighter from the taper and the eating and drinking. Going to do a little mini-diet for the next few days just to feel lighter, then do a healthy carb up right before the weekend.

 
I don't know exactly what I want here, but I am gonna throw it out.

Kids 6,3 are starting to ride bikes and my wife bought a beach cruiser to look cute in.

She said I should get a bike so we could ride around as a family.

While I am tempted to get a pink beach cruiser for myself, my 1st thought was to get some bike I could incorporate into some sort of racing.

I am enjoying running a good deal, and would not mind throwing in some biking.

Was more thinking of a $100-$200 used bike off craigslist.

I don't really know what I would want, or what I should look into, but would be cool to do a biathlon or something?

Do I want a mountain bike?

Road bike?

Riding in rough terrain would be cool, not sure how popular it is in NJ or how often I would go alone. Are mountain bikes even good for 20-40mile rides?

yea, i am all over the place here, I just was thinking of something that could pull double duty for me when I am not just strolling with the family.

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I don't know exactly what I want here, but I am gonna throw it out.Kids 6,3 are starting to ride bikes and my wife bought a beach cruiser to look cute in.She said I should get a bike so we could ride around as a family.While I am tempted to get a pink beach cruiser for myself, my 1st thought was to get some bike I could incorporate into some sort of racing.I am enjoying running a good deal, and would not mind throwing in some biking.Was more thinking of a $100-$200 used bike off craigslist. I don't really know what I would want, or what I should look into, but would be cool to do a biathlon or something?Do I want a mountain bike?Road bike?Riding in rough terrain would be cool, not sure how popular it is in NJ or how often I would go alone. Are mountain bikes even good for 20-40mile rides?yea, i am all over the place here, I just was thinking of something that could pull double duty for me when I am not just strolling with the family.?
Seems like a mountain bike or hybrid would suit you best. Once you learn how, swapping out the tires from the nobbies of the mountain bike to slicks (flat surface tires) is rather easy. I did this for my son's mountain bike when he did a couple of kids triathlons. My wife and I both had mountain bike we rarely used. I slapped on slicks and comfy seats (and a bell on my wife's) and they a pseudo-cruisers. Once you get hooked on Duathlons, you can always upgrade to a road bike and keep the MTB as an around town bike.
 
I don't know exactly what I want here, but I am gonna throw it out.Kids 6,3 are starting to ride bikes and my wife bought a beach cruiser to look cute in.She said I should get a bike so we could ride around as a family.While I am tempted to get a pink beach cruiser for myself, my 1st thought was to get some bike I could incorporate into some sort of racing.I am enjoying running a good deal, and would not mind throwing in some biking.Was more thinking of a $100-$200 used bike off craigslist. I don't really know what I would want, or what I should look into, but would be cool to do a biathlon or something?Do I want a mountain bike?Road bike?Riding in rough terrain would be cool, not sure how popular it is in NJ or how often I would go alone. Are mountain bikes even good for 20-40mile rides?yea, i am all over the place here, I just was thinking of something that could pull double duty for me when I am not just strolling with the family.?
Seems like a mountain bike or hybrid would suit you best. Once you learn how, swapping out the tires from the nobbies of the mountain bike to slicks (flat surface tires) is rather easy. I did this for my son's mountain bike when he did a couple of kids triathlons. My wife and I both had mountain bike we rarely used. I slapped on slicks and comfy seats (and a bell on my wife's) and they a pseudo-cruisers. Once you get hooked on Duathlons, you can always upgrade to a road bike and keep the MTB as an around town bike.
What are these bike rides called that I can use a MTN bike?I mean, by my job, I see a lot of bike riders, but they all look like Lance Armstrong with the colorful tights and skinny tire bikes.I wouldn't want to show up to one of their races with a mountain bike right?Is that allowed? Would that be like a dude showing up to a HM in combat boots?
 
Finished up my multi-sport training weekend with another kayak of 4.25 miles yesterday. I wanted to get a short swim in too, but the lap lanes were packed with n00bs. It reminded me of the recurring thread about the gym after New Years. People just hogging lanes, with no swim etiquette. Things typically back down quick, but it sucks for now.

Purposefully ran 4 miles at lunch today in high heat and humidity. We had a storm roll though that dumped a bunch a rain earlier this morning and then the sun came out, strong. I've read that the closest thing to simulating altitude training is to run in high humidity. I also wanted to analyze my HR a bit. I have I have 7 (if not more) events Jun-Aug and multiple long events, so I need to check in and see where I am.

I have a gear review. I was at ****'s on Saturday and had a $40 voucher to use up before it expired. I wasn't quite to the $40, so I looked around to find something small that would carry me over. I grabbed a Body Glide alternative by Mission Skin Care. Good stuff and in two tries, it appears longer lasting than Body Glide (appeared to remain thicker). It comes in a 2.4 OZ stick, compared to the 1.3 OZ Glide. Plus, it say right on the stick that it was developed by Hunter Kemper and Sarah Haskins, so it has to make me faster.

 
Race week and I've got a cold. Hoping most of it has passed me by already. Did a nice 12mi on sat. 7 miles today.I am going to stick to the no drinking thing this week. Spent Sunday afternoon at a brewery drinking 9.5% ABV for 2hrs, then yesterday was pulled pork, bean dip, and 5 margaritas. My jeans are actually fitting tighter from the taper and the eating and drinking. Going to do a little mini-diet for the next few days just to feel lighter, then do a healthy carb up right before the weekend.
How are the sore legs? I remember you were considering cutting back on the taper to rest more.
 
Great race Wraith, you have to be pleased given your ankle issues. How are they doing now?
Thanx Benson! Ankles were OK - my right achilles is, and probably always will be a mess. But jogging and stretching beforehand really seemed to help the ankle joints on race day. What really surprised me was my quads - they were pretty tight by the end of the race and were sore almost immediately afterwards. Yesterday they were still pretty sore. No idea what that's all about. :shrug:
 
I don't know exactly what I want here, but I am gonna throw it out.Kids 6,3 are starting to ride bikes and my wife bought a beach cruiser to look cute in.She said I should get a bike so we could ride around as a family.While I am tempted to get a pink beach cruiser for myself, my 1st thought was to get some bike I could incorporate into some sort of racing.I am enjoying running a good deal, and would not mind throwing in some biking.Was more thinking of a $100-$200 used bike off craigslist. I don't really know what I would want, or what I should look into, but would be cool to do a biathlon or something?Do I want a mountain bike?Road bike?Riding in rough terrain would be cool, not sure how popular it is in NJ or how often I would go alone. Are mountain bikes even good for 20-40mile rides?yea, i am all over the place here, I just was thinking of something that could pull double duty for me when I am not just strolling with the family.?
Seems like a mountain bike or hybrid would suit you best. Once you learn how, swapping out the tires from the nobbies of the mountain bike to slicks (flat surface tires) is rather easy. I did this for my son's mountain bike when he did a couple of kids triathlons. My wife and I both had mountain bike we rarely used. I slapped on slicks and comfy seats (and a bell on my wife's) and they a pseudo-cruisers. Once you get hooked on Duathlons, you can always upgrade to a road bike and keep the MTB as an around town bike.
What are these bike rides called that I can use a MTN bike?I mean, by my job, I see a lot of bike riders, but they all look like Lance Armstrong with the colorful tights and skinny tire bikes.I wouldn't want to show up to one of their races with a mountain bike right?Is that allowed? Would that be like a dude showing up to a HM in combat boots?
Last half I ran, a guy wore combat boots. You can ride any bike you like in these events. More folks will have, at least, a road bike (or tri TT bike), but if you want to cruise leisurely with the family, you won't want to do it on a road bike. Baby steps with the bike IMO. I trained and race my first triathlon on my 1979 Schwinn Continental I fixed up. As I got the bug, I moved on to a road bike and then ultimately to a tri bike. I still use all three bikes depending on what I am doing.
 
TriMan/Wraith - nice race! Also, awesome you guys could hang out.
Some back story?Are you guys real friends?Just meet up for this?
Gruecd gave you the backdrop. Since Wraith and I are both in Chicago suburbs, we've had a few other local races together, I was fortunate to cheer him on at his first triathlon, and we've met for lunch, too. Yes - real friends!! I've also done a couple other races with gruecd (he was the first FBG I met ...a bit surreal that first time :P ) and with 2Young (including a now-annual fall trail relay :thumbup: ). As gruecd said, the Bourbon Chase brought a number of us together. All in all, I've met at least dozen guys who have been in and out of this thread through the years! My good fortune.
 
TriMan/Wraith - nice race! Also, awesome you guys could hang out.
Some back story?Are you guys real friends?

Just meet up for this?
I've actually hung out with these guys a couple of times, too. IIRC, the first time we met was for the Rock 'n Roll Chicago Half Marathon in 2009. Mr. and Mrs. 2Young went, too. Last year a whole bunch of us did the Bourbon Chase relay in Kentucky together. It's cool when guys stop being "imaginary" friends and start being "real" friends.
:goodposting: I first met up with Tri-man on 6/6/09 for an 8k trail race near my house. I'll never forget running with him the first mile or so at a 7:## pace, puffing like crazy to try & keep up and he was talking away like we were walking.

Since then I've seen Tri-man and Grue a bunch of times for races and purely social occasions and enjoyed the hell out of each encounter.

The Chase was ultimately cool for me on many levels (the running hungover not among them...). Explaining to my mother that I was inviting 12 guys "I met on the internet" to come stay at her home was especially awesome...

 
The Chase was ultimately cool for me on many levels (the running hungover not among them...). Explaining to my mother that I was inviting 12 guys "I met on the internet" to come stay at her home was especially awesome...
Dude, it's not that bad. I just did it today at lunch.... :shrug:
 
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I'm hoping for detailed reports that include nothing to do with the race (i.e., group lunges, gatorade inventions, etc.).
Picture forthcoming, just for you, liquors!As RoarinS said, it was quite a course and quite an experience. We basically all hit our marks to finish around 6:30ish for the 50 miles. But it's tough to do about a half-marathon each in split segments, keeping loose and hydrated while moving in and out from a warm vehicle to cold, windy conditions. Props to the Sonoran clan for providing the support vehicle (I'm convinced that Mrs. S drove a NY taxi in a prior life) and the cheerleading team of three daughters (one who marked up the van windows, forgetting an "m" in calling us "chaps"). Thanks to gruecd for pulling this together.

The start was great - isolated out at the very tip of the peninsula with the sun rising and winds blowing as one of the relay teams harmonized a stirring national anthem. We were in the final wave, and our projected time put us at the slow end of that wave. Midway through we starting catching runners from earlier waves, but early on, with not much happening, our 'gruecd challenge' became to stay with a female team of runners he knew from his hometown. We battled back and forth from legs three to seven, but they ended up several minutes in front of us (and second female team overall).

After the race were more pics, then the party tent with beer and pizza. Our other runner, Tim (and running wife Jodi, who closed pre-race emails with "Word") had to leave early for a wedding, so the three FBGs and support crew hung out for a bit. This old man missed his Saturday afternoon nap, so mrs-tri and I left after the awards. Gruecd seemed to know half the runners, so we left to create his own trouble.
Remember this "experience," tri-man?? :P
 
Finished my 10k 36th overall(8th in the 30-34 age group...some fast muth####ahs in this race) out of 1079 finishers with a time of 41:12 (PR). Mah watch said I finished in 40:55. :shrug:Well, not too bad considering it was hot and I drink a six pack the night before. :banned: After the race I drank a beer for every lap...day wasted... :bye:
You can include your self as one of the the fast muth####ahs! Only a six pack the night before and to follow-up? You are missing some potential for carb loading ;)
Thanks. :thumbup: Oh, and let's just say that carb loading didn't end after the race...what a weekend. :banned:
 
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I'm hoping for detailed reports that include nothing to do with the race (i.e., group lunges, gatorade inventions, etc.).
Picture forthcoming, just for you, liquors!As RoarinS said, it was quite a course and quite an experience. We basically all hit our marks to finish around 6:30ish for the 50 miles. But it's tough to do about a half-marathon each in split segments, keeping loose and hydrated while moving in and out from a warm vehicle to cold, windy conditions. Props to the Sonoran clan for providing the support vehicle (I'm convinced that Mrs. S drove a NY taxi in a prior life) and the cheerleading team of three daughters (one who marked up the van windows, forgetting an "m" in calling us "chaps"). Thanks to gruecd for pulling this together.

The start was great - isolated out at the very tip of the peninsula with the sun rising and winds blowing as one of the relay teams harmonized a stirring national anthem. We were in the final wave, and our projected time put us at the slow end of that wave. Midway through we starting catching runners from earlier waves, but early on, with not much happening, our 'gruecd challenge' became to stay with a female team of runners he knew from his hometown. We battled back and forth from legs three to seven, but they ended up several minutes in front of us (and second female team overall).

After the race were more pics, then the party tent with beer and pizza. Our other runner, Tim (and running wife Jodi, who closed pre-race emails with "Word") had to leave early for a wedding, so the three FBGs and support crew hung out for a bit. This old man missed his Saturday afternoon nap, so mrs-tri and I left after the awards. Gruecd seemed to know half the runners, so we left to create his own trouble.
Remember this "experience," tri-man?? :P
Word. Such a cool event, even though the Roarin S van was a little ..unkempt. Running the length of Door County, Wisconsin on a crisp fall day was awesome. We did start the race with a lunge step, a tradition kept alive at the Bourbon Chase. ( :bye: to Tim and Jodi!)
 
(the running hungover not among them...).
####### Mini Chad. At least you only got to be exposed to his hazing once in a life time. I get it like twice a year. I consider myself lucky to have found this thread and even luckier that I got to race with a bunch of the guys in person. I'll be seeing Dexter and Turkish Harem (infrequent posters) in a few weeks at several events and they are meeting up with Myself and Wraith to do a 1/2 Ironman in September and, as Tri-Man stated, he joins our dirt team for the annual 100K trip though the mud. I'd bet there is another Bourbon Chase type race in our futures as well.
 
(the running hungover not among them...).
####### Mini Chad. At least you only got to be exposed to his hazing once in a life time. I get it like twice a year. I consider myself lucky to have found this thread and even luckier that I got to race with a bunch of the guys in person. I'll be seeing Dexter and Turkish Harem (infrequent posters) in a few weeks at several events and they are meeting up with Myself and Wraith to do a 1/2 Ironman in September and, as Tri-Man stated, he joins our dirt team for the annual 100K trip though the mud. I'd bet there is another Bourbon Chase type race in our futures as well.
:goodposting: #### Chewbacca shots. :lmao: :yucky: :lmao:
 
The Chase was ultimately cool for me on many levels (the running hungover not among them...). Explaining to my mother that I was inviting 12 guys "I met on the internet" to come stay at her home was especially awesome...
Your mom was awesome, so whatever you said (or more than likely despite what you said :P ) it worked out well.
 
Race week and I've got a cold. Hoping most of it has passed me by already. Did a nice 12mi on sat. 7 miles today.I am going to stick to the no drinking thing this week. Spent Sunday afternoon at a brewery drinking 9.5% ABV for 2hrs, then yesterday was pulled pork, bean dip, and 5 margaritas. My jeans are actually fitting tighter from the taper and the eating and drinking. Going to do a little mini-diet for the next few days just to feel lighter, then do a healthy carb up right before the weekend.
How are the sore legs? I remember you were considering cutting back on the taper to rest more.
Thanks for asking. I took a couple of days off and then turned a 52mi week into a 41mi week and everything got better. I think I'm in a good spot with the taper right now, although this (minor) cold is affecting me - just finished 7 miles in the heat and it was a little tough. Apparently it's common to get a cold during taper.
 
CN: finding shade is not cheating = smart!

I have enough meat in me to last the full two weeks.
TWSS
:lmao:
:lmao:
yea, i am all over the place here, I just was thinking of something that could pull double duty for me when I am not just strolling with the family.

?
$100- $200 is going to make it a bit difficult to find something decent, but I'd be looking for a hybrid unless you know you want to go off road (= mt. bike) or want to race (= road bike). Strolling around with the family will be best done on a comfort or hybrid. Once you start looking, let us know and a bunch of us will likely love to help you spend your ca$h. FWIW: I rode my first tri (with help from many in this thread!) on an old hybrid. I now have a Mt. bike, road bike and tri-bike. All have a purpose in my life and are still used.
...looked around to find something small that would carry me over. I grabbed a Body Glide alternative by Mission Skin Care. Good stuff and in two tries, it appears longer lasting than Body Glide (appeared to remain thicker). It comes in a 2.4 OZ stick, compared to the 1.3 OZ Glide. Plus, it say right on the stick that it was developed by Hunter Kemper and Sarah Haskins, so it has to make me faster.
I hope this helps with your "stroke." :unsure:
Explaining to my mother that I was inviting 12 guys "I met on the internet" to come stay at her home was especially awesome...
Mom :wub:
Oh, and let's just say that carb loading didn't end after the race...what a weekend. :banned:
:thumbup: I'm almost always pretty well loaded.
(the running hungover not among them...).
####### Mini Chad. At least you only got to be exposed to his hazing once in a life time. I get it like twice a year. I consider myself lucky to have found this thread and even luckier that I got to race with a bunch of the guys in person. I'll be seeing Dexter and Turkish Harem (infrequent posters) in a few weeks at several events and they are meeting up with Myself and Wraith to do a 1/2 Ironman in September and, as Tri-Man stated, he joins our dirt team for the annual 100K trip though the mud. I'd bet there is another Bourbon Chase type race in our futures as well.
####### Mini Chad! :lmao:
I'm thinking maybe this one next summer, if only because there a fair number of locals (me and the Chicago guys) who could organize/host.
I'd drive to see that! :drive: Wraith: my quads typically get me when I'm dehydrated. Could that be it?

 
The Chase was ultimately cool for me on many levels (the running hungover not among them...). Explaining to my mother that I was inviting 12 guys "I met on the internet" to come stay at her home was especially awesome...
Your mom was awesome, so whatever you said (or more than likely despite what you said :P ) it worked out well.
Yes, yes. I enjoyed the horses as well. Nothing like waking up to the sounds of "neighhhh." NTTAWWT.
 
Great races out there Hang 10, tri-man, and Benson! Some great times are being posted in the warmth.

Ned -- hope you are okay. Don't #### around with a concussion.

I'm eating some peanut butter and bagel right now and in less than 3 hours, I'll be running my 3rd marathon. First two were at 3:39 and 3:36.

I'd like to finish between 3:45 and 3:50. I'll go out at a 3:38 pace and see how it feels. The heat will be creeping up later and expect it to be 70+ degrees when I finish. And right now, there isn't a cloud in the sky.

If anyone has any desire to track me, you can at this site --> http://results.bazumedia.com/event/results/event/event-1217 I'm bib 3489. Race starts at 8 am (eastern time.)
SC crossed the mat at mile 10 in 1:23:30 (8:21) pace. Right on the 3:38 target. Things must be feeling good. :popcorn: :towelwave:
Across 20 @ 2:50:15 (8:31 - 3:43 pace). Hold onnnnnnnnnn SC. :towelwave:
Ned -- I'm about to post my RR. Your post here was spot on. Hold onnnnnnnnn was exactly what I was thinking at that point also. RR posted in next post.
 
Burlington (VT) Marathon – May 27, 2012

Final Time – 3:47:26.

Overall #667 out of 2,418

Men #501 out of 1,333

Men’s 40-44 Division - #73 out of 180

Temperatures from low 60’s to mid 70’s and sunny.

My hotel was 2 blocks from the start. I woke up a bit before 5 a.m. and went to the lobby hotel to eat a bagel with peanut butter as well as a clif bar. I was able to also get through some work email before heading back up to the room for a quick power nap. Woke back up around 6:45 and got up and started to getting ready. It was nice to be able to leave the hotel at 7:20 a.m. with plenty of time before the 8 a.m. start. It was especially nice to not have to worry about porta-potties! I checked my bag and did a quick warm up and headed to the starting corral.

This is my third marathon. My first two were 3:39 and 3:36. Admittedly, the temperatures were much cooler (ideal) than I was going to face this day in Burlington. In addition, due to personal and work reasons, my training had been very sporadic. I had only completed one training run of more than 15 miles. My goal was to finish between 3:45 and 3:50, however, I would go out at a 8:20/mile pace (3:38 marathon) and see how it went.

The start area wasn’t particularly well marked. This is a smaller marathon with nearly 3,200 people scheduled to run the full marathon and another 4,000 people doing relays (of which only a fraction were at the start running the first segment). There weren’t any recommendations or signs for lining up by expected pace. Since I wasn’t trying to qualify for Boston or go for a PR, I wasn’t anywhere near the start and actually happened to cross the start line near the 4:30 pacing group.

Mile 1 – 9:05

Mile 2 – 7:50

Mile 3 – 7:51

Mile 1 was PACKED with very little opportunity to move. I didn’t really try to zig zag and just went with the flow. In miles 2 and 3, it was mostly downhill, so although my pace was a bit fast, it was easy. I did have to jump up on the sidewalk to pass the 3:45 pace group in the middle of mile 2. They were huge and literally took over the entire street!

Mile 4 – 8:08

Mile 5 – 8:11

Mile 6 – 8:21

Mile 7 – 8:25

Mile 8 – 8:24

Mile 9 – 8:41

Mile 4-9 is an out and back on a divided roadway. I generally don’t like out and backs unless I can see the leaders. Fortunately, in this case, I got to see the leaders (including the wheelchair leaders). Amazing how fast and smooth those guys are. I also got to see the back of the pack as I was on mile 8 when the back of the pack was on mile 4. Mile 4 was about 100’ vertical down. Since it was an out and back, what goes down, must come back up so mile 9 was the same thing but uphill. There was no shade in this section of the course, fortunately, there was a sliver of clouds that kept me out of direct sun for most of this time.

Mile 10- 7:53

In mile 10, I got to see my wife, kids, and mother. This was the section that actually repeated the start line so there were literally thousands of cheering fans and in parts it was 4 to 5 people deep. It was kind of cool to see people sitting in trees, climbing light posts, standing on second floor porches to catch a view of the race. I felt like I was in the lead pack (albeit a very slow – and large – lead pack.) My time also was helped as this mile was mostly downhill. I also ate a banana during this mile.

Mile 11 – 8:26

Mile 12 – 8:38

Mile 13 – 8:25

Mile 14 - 8:21

Mile 15 – 8:37

In every good marathon, there is a section where the miles just melt away. This was that section for me. Nothing particularly noteworthy in this section of the course. Some small rolling hills, and obviously passing the halfway point in 1:50:01. I finished my first Gu right before the halfway mark. It was along this section that I started to really notice the heat. It was getting hot. Temps were at 70 at this section (passed a digital thermometer at a local business). Miles 14 and 15 are run along a bikepath along Lake Champlain. I did enjoy that section in particular as it had beautiful scenery and at times there was no noise except the shuffling of feet and breathing. A nice happy quiet time during a marathon! :yes:

Mile 16 – 8:50

Mile 16 brings forth the steepest and most intense hill of the course. 130’ of vertical up in six long blocks. Fortunately the crowds are back in this section. They have huge drums that produce a beat that you can almost try to run to. The road was radiating heat and I just looked down at the pavement and tried not to lose too much time. Of course, my focus on finishing the hill made me miss my family who was on this hill amongst the crowd. Our hotel was in the middle of this hill as well.

Mile 17 – 8:19

Mile 18 – 8:21

These next two miles were much tougher than they should have been. I was trying to keep my pace while recovering from the Mile 16 hill. At this point, there were some small rolling hills with more downhill than up, but I wasn’t cruising at this pace. I was pushing. The sun was beaming down and not a cloud was in the sky. I was getting drinks at every water stop. I knew this pace wasn’t sustainable for the next 8 miles.

Mile 19 – 9:17

Mile 20 – 9:17

As we ran through this residential area, some families organized marathon parties with music, tents, drinking, etc, it was quite a scene. Lots of hoses and sprinklers for the runners. I’ve never been one to like getting sprayed or dumping water on my head but it was so freakin hot. The sun was searing through my skin. I was taking in many of the sprinklers! Also, the 3:45 pace group passed me. That was a mental blow knowing I passed them at mile 2 and here they were returning the favor. (Of course, the group had gone from nearly 100 runners at mile 2 to perhaps 15 people left at this stage.) In addition, my brother in law (who has run a few marathons) joined me to run in the final miles with me.

Mile 21 – 9:04

Mile 22 – 8:42

Mile 23 – 9:02

My primary motivation here was to try to stay with that 3:45 group with a dream to potentially beat them at the end. That was a pipe dream as I was burning through my energy reserves too fast. I hung with that 3:45 group for a bit but they eventually pulled away. These miles were on a bike path along Lake Champlain.

Mile 24 – 9:21

Mile 25 – 9:50

Mile 25 was my slowest and the most painful. There was significant carnage with people stopped, walking, stretching, as well as a couple dazed runners with medical people assisting them. The sun was strong as it was near noon. There were no clouds and I don’t recall a breeze. The water stops were very busy as EVERYONE was getting liquids. Mile 25 was my most challenging (and slowest) mile I had in any of my three marathons. My brother in law was supportive and helped getting water, etc, however, unless he was willing to carry me, I wasn’t going much faster than I was.

Mile 26 – 9:13

Last 0.2 – 8:45

The final 1.2 miles were painful but I knew the end was near. I didn’t go “all out” as there wasn’t any time goal or PR in this race. I just cruised in and finished along Waterfront Park that lines Lake Champlain.

Overall, this marathon was my least prepared for and most difficult in terms of weather conditions. I sit here 48 hours later and am ready to go running NOW. This is great as the other two marathons, I had zero motivation to run after the marathon. I hope to PR in my hometown race in Connecticut in late July and then begin a serious push to get a marathon PR (and potentially break 3:30) in Philadelphia in November.

I was initially disappointed with my pacing dropoff. I looked further and noticed my placement throughout the race was as follows:

10K – 40-44 male division - 97th /Overall – 943rd

10 miles – 40-44 male division – 91st /Overall – 787th

Half Marathon – 40-44 male division – 88th /Overall – 776th

20 miles – 40-44 male division - 79th /Overall – 689th

Finish - 40-44 male division – 73rd /Overall – 667th

So, as badly as I was fading and my time was falling apart, I was passing more people than were passing me. Still, to meet my goals, I have to work at running a more consistent pace and that begins with a more complete training regimen going into the race.

 
Out the door at 5:30 this morning to beat the heat/humidity again. I sweat more today than I did on Sunday's 15. :X Breathing was tough thanks to all of fog rolling thru. 72/95% at the start.On the schedule was 9mi with 5LT. It was a weird run, but whoa this was fast. At mile 7 (last LT mile) I had to slow myself down or I was going to blow right through LT. I thought I was pushing through the rough breathing, but I was pushing through the pace instead. I donked up the pacing, but encouraged by the strong effort in these crappy conditions. Splits were 7:33/161, 7:34/169, 7:29/172, 7:19/175, 7:39/176 Average = 7:30/171I say it a lot, but these runs are the best barometer we have for checking our fitness (aside from racing). I'm pretty pumped at the progress so far for 2012.02/22 - 9/5LT 8:06/17603/07 - 10/6LT 8:07/17503/21 - 11/7LT 7:44/17404/04 - 9/5LT 7:35/17404/18 - 8/4LT 7:34/17405/29 - 9/5LT 7:30/171
Knocking it out of the park. :thumbup:
 
Treadmill today.

I did 6x400 @ 8:00 per mile pace, rested at 12:00 per mile pace for 400 as well.

I have a 5k race on Saturday evening. Should be hot, 95-100 :unsure: giddy up

 
I'm going to run an 8-mile road race in 3 weeks. Kind of hilly, too. I've only been running 3 or 4 miles on soft sand every couple of days.

What should I do for training from here on out? BTW, I'm not worried about finishing or anything like that, I'm in decent shape and have good endurance. I'm more interested in how I can maximize my effort. Thanks.
Start pounding some pavement. Train on what you're going to race on. Good luck.
Agreed. I don't know what your background is like, BRONG, but it's a big jump to go from 3-4 miles on sand to 8 hilly miles on asphalt.
Thanks for the input, which includes 17seconds and comfortably numb, btw. So here's where I'm at (not good, btw)... :D First of all the race is a week earlier than I thought, lol, coming up THIS Saturday. Also, I haven't trained much. And I have only run on pavement twice now. I ran 6 miles last Wednesday...totally flat, btw. And about 6 1/2 last Saturday with some hills. I timed the first 6-mile run. Did the first 3 miles in 28. The other 3 in 27:40. The last mile had to be my fastest, fwiw, so at least I have that going for me, ha.

I continued to do a few other sand runs the last few weeks and have also been doing a workout twice a week that includes lots of pushups, situps, lunges, and a bunch of others I don't even know the name of. In between each exercise, we jog. The sof-sand jog is actually the break/rest period between pretty intense exercises. It ain't easy. I have to think this will help some.

Anyway, my plan tonight was to run 7 miles on pavement. However, after reading this again, I'm wondering if that's too far, so close to the race (3 1/2 days away). Again, race is 8 miles and the last two runs on pavement were my longest in maybe 10 years. Also, I have the boot camp thing Thursday evening. Is that also too close to the race (early Saturday morning). It's a 45 minute workout, btw, and I don't want to miss one unless it's a bad idea.

Finally, any ideas of what to do tomorrow and Friday? Probly nothing on Friday, I'm thinking.

Thanks.

 
Burlington (VT) Marathon – May 27, 2012

Final Time – 3:47:26.

Overall #667 out of 2,418

Men #501 out of 1,333

Men’s 40-44 Division - #73 out of 180

Temperatures from low 60’s to mid 70’s and sunny.

My hotel was 2 blocks from the start. I woke up a bit before 5 a.m. and went to the lobby hotel to eat a bagel with peanut butter as well as a clif bar. I was able to also get through some work email before heading back up to the room for a quick power nap. Woke back up around 6:45 and got up and started to getting ready. It was nice to be able to leave the hotel at 7:20 a.m. with plenty of time before the 8 a.m. start. It was especially nice to not have to worry about porta-potties! I checked my bag and did a quick warm up and headed to the starting corral.

This is my third marathon. My first two were 3:39 and 3:36. Admittedly, the temperatures were much cooler (ideal) than I was going to face this day in Burlington. In addition, due to personal and work reasons, my training had been very sporadic. I had only completed one training run of more than 15 miles. My goal was to finish between 3:45 and 3:50, however, I would go out at a 8:20/mile pace (3:38 marathon) and see how it went.

The start area wasn’t particularly well marked. This is a smaller marathon with nearly 3,200 people scheduled to run the full marathon and another 4,000 people doing relays (of which only a fraction were at the start running the first segment). There weren’t any recommendations or signs for lining up by expected pace. Since I wasn’t trying to qualify for Boston or go for a PR, I wasn’t anywhere near the start and actually happened to cross the start line near the 4:30 pacing group.

Mile 1 – 9:05

Mile 2 – 7:50

Mile 3 – 7:51

Mile 1 was PACKED with very little opportunity to move. I didn’t really try to zig zag and just went with the flow. In miles 2 and 3, it was mostly downhill, so although my pace was a bit fast, it was easy. I did have to jump up on the sidewalk to pass the 3:45 pace group in the middle of mile 2. They were huge and literally took over the entire street!

Mile 4 – 8:08

Mile 5 – 8:11

Mile 6 – 8:21

Mile 7 – 8:25

Mile 8 – 8:24

Mile 9 – 8:41

Mile 4-9 is an out and back on a divided roadway. I generally don’t like out and backs unless I can see the leaders. Fortunately, in this case, I got to see the leaders (including the wheelchair leaders). Amazing how fast and smooth those guys are. I also got to see the back of the pack as I was on mile 8 when the back of the pack was on mile 4. Mile 4 was about 100’ vertical down. Since it was an out and back, what goes down, must come back up so mile 9 was the same thing but uphill. There was no shade in this section of the course, fortunately, there was a sliver of clouds that kept me out of direct sun for most of this time.

Mile 10- 7:53

In mile 10, I got to see my wife, kids, and mother. This was the section that actually repeated the start line so there were literally thousands of cheering fans and in parts it was 4 to 5 people deep. It was kind of cool to see people sitting in trees, climbing light posts, standing on second floor porches to catch a view of the race. I felt like I was in the lead pack (albeit a very slow – and large – lead pack.) My time also was helped as this mile was mostly downhill. I also ate a banana during this mile.

Mile 11 – 8:26

Mile 12 – 8:38

Mile 13 – 8:25

Mile 14 - 8:21

Mile 15 – 8:37

In every good marathon, there is a section where the miles just melt away. This was that section for me. Nothing particularly noteworthy in this section of the course. Some small rolling hills, and obviously passing the halfway point in 1:50:01. I finished my first Gu right before the halfway mark. It was along this section that I started to really notice the heat. It was getting hot. Temps were at 70 at this section (passed a digital thermometer at a local business). Miles 14 and 15 are run along a bikepath along Lake Champlain. I did enjoy that section in particular as it had beautiful scenery and at times there was no noise except the shuffling of feet and breathing. A nice happy quiet time during a marathon! :yes:

Mile 16 – 8:50

Mile 16 brings forth the steepest and most intense hill of the course. 130’ of vertical up in six long blocks. Fortunately the crowds are back in this section. They have huge drums that produce a beat that you can almost try to run to. The road was radiating heat and I just looked down at the pavement and tried not to lose too much time. Of course, my focus on finishing the hill made me miss my family who was on this hill amongst the crowd. Our hotel was in the middle of this hill as well.

Mile 17 – 8:19

Mile 18 – 8:21

These next two miles were much tougher than they should have been. I was trying to keep my pace while recovering from the Mile 16 hill. At this point, there were some small rolling hills with more downhill than up, but I wasn’t cruising at this pace. I was pushing. The sun was beaming down and not a cloud was in the sky. I was getting drinks at every water stop. I knew this pace wasn’t sustainable for the next 8 miles.

Mile 19 – 9:17

Mile 20 – 9:17

As we ran through this residential area, some families organized marathon parties with music, tents, drinking, etc, it was quite a scene. Lots of hoses and sprinklers for the runners. I’ve never been one to like getting sprayed or dumping water on my head but it was so freakin hot. The sun was searing through my skin. I was taking in many of the sprinklers! Also, the 3:45 pace group passed me. That was a mental blow knowing I passed them at mile 2 and here they were returning the favor. (Of course, the group had gone from nearly 100 runners at mile 2 to perhaps 15 people left at this stage.) In addition, my brother in law (who has run a few marathons) joined me to run in the final miles with me.

Mile 21 – 9:04

Mile 22 – 8:42

Mile 23 – 9:02

My primary motivation here was to try to stay with that 3:45 group with a dream to potentially beat them at the end. That was a pipe dream as I was burning through my energy reserves too fast. I hung with that 3:45 group for a bit but they eventually pulled away. These miles were on a bike path along Lake Champlain.

Mile 24 – 9:21

Mile 25 – 9:50

Mile 25 was my slowest and the most painful. There was significant carnage with people stopped, walking, stretching, as well as a couple dazed runners with medical people assisting them. The sun was strong as it was near noon. There were no clouds and I don’t recall a breeze. The water stops were very busy as EVERYONE was getting liquids. Mile 25 was my most challenging (and slowest) mile I had in any of my three marathons. My brother in law was supportive and helped getting water, etc, however, unless he was willing to carry me, I wasn’t going much faster than I was.

Mile 26 – 9:13

Last 0.2 – 8:45

The final 1.2 miles were painful but I knew the end was near. I didn’t go “all out” as there wasn’t any time goal or PR in this race. I just cruised in and finished along Waterfront Park that lines Lake Champlain.

Overall, this marathon was my least prepared for and most difficult in terms of weather conditions. I sit here 48 hours later and am ready to go running NOW. This is great as the other two marathons, I had zero motivation to run after the marathon. I hope to PR in my hometown race in Connecticut in late July and then begin a serious push to get a marathon PR (and potentially break 3:30) in Philadelphia in November.

I was initially disappointed with my pacing dropoff. I looked further and noticed my placement throughout the race was as follows:

10K – 40-44 male division - 97th /Overall – 943rd

10 miles – 40-44 male division – 91st /Overall – 787th

Half Marathon – 40-44 male division – 88th /Overall – 776th

20 miles – 40-44 male division - 79th /Overall – 689th

Finish - 40-44 male division – 73rd /Overall – 667th

So, as badly as I was fading and my time was falling apart, I was passing more people than were passing me. Still, to meet my goals, I have to work at running a more consistent pace and that begins with a more complete training regimen going into the race.
Amazing job and thanks for the write up :thumbup:
 

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