2:56 last lap. So 9:21 for the first half? Is this where you tell yourself that you "only" have 50 miles to go?lap 3 in 2:28 ... still ahead of 'A goal' pace!![]()
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2:56 last lap. So 9:21 for the first half? Is this where you tell yourself that you "only" have 50 miles to go?lap 3 in 2:28 ... still ahead of 'A goal' pace!![]()
4th lap complete:BassNBrew said:http://www.umstead100.org/
Bib #137 if you want to follow this debacle.
Race plan - bank miles early, try to hang on and finish.
A goal - 24 hours. 14:24 pace. I only mention this because I would like to get the first 25 miles done on this plan. 2:20 for lap one, 2:35 for lap two. 4:55 at the quarter pole. 2:45 lap three and 3:00 for lap four. 5:45 for the second quarter and 10:40 at the halfway point. I'd have to average 14:48 from here or 3:05 laps to make it in 24 hours which won't happen.
B goal - Beat the 30 hour cutoff. 2:30 for lap one, 2:45 for lap two. 5:15 at the quarter pole which is doable. 3:00 for lap three and 3:15 for lap four. 6:15 for the second quarter and 11:30 at the halfway mark. Basically accomplished this at Table Rock so this is a good goal. That leaves 18 hours (plus 30 min contingency plan) to do 50 miles. 21'36" miles which I can walk will get me there.
Temps will range between the upper 30s and upper 60s. No rain forecasted. No shade as the leaves aren't out yet.
Forgot to mention, first mile is dedicated to Sand and will be sub 10:00.
Thanks! I've run 20 miles on a treadmill multiple times so I should be able to deal with the boredom.It depends on the model, but for most models you can find in gyms there should be a way to increase resistance. I try to stick to the following when I work out on them:Good idea! I don't know why I don't think of such things!so I am going to be pretty aggressive with my rest days and will probably stick to the elliptical
However, the grand total of my elliptical experience was a total of 2 minutes one time a few years ago and I quit because I felt like it was too easy and wasn't doing anything for me. I assume there are tension settings or something. Can someone give me a quick tutorial on what I should do?
1. Figure out the resistance scale, usually the scale is from 1-10, 1-15, or 1-20. (and default is always on easiest). I usually set it at the halfway point (so like 10 if the max is 20) since the highest level of resistance usually feels pretty f***ing hard.
2. I go by heart rate. My easy run heart rate is usually 115-125, so I try to aim for the same level of effort.
3. Work out for the same amount of time as your run as long as you don't go insane.
4. Get an IPOD or figure out a way to watch TV to pass the time. This is BOOOORRRRING.
I have heard a lot of people say that you should use a level of resistance that allows you to hit the same turnover rate as you would if you were running. (so 90 revolutions per minute if you take 180 steps per minute). I don't know if this is necessary unless you were going to be using the elliptical as your main training tool for a few weeks and are worried that it would mess up your normal running rhythm, but in my experience I have used 80-85 rpm (160-170 steps/minute) without affecting my normal running mechanics. But if you are worried about it then maybe lower/increase your resistance until you can get your running turnover rate while maintaining your desired workout effort.
One last thing, most ellipticals have a set of "swinging arms" that most people use to mimic a skiing motion and then a set of "bike handle bars" in the middle for you to hold onto if you don't want to use the swinging arms. I don't really need/want the arm workout at this point so I usually just grab the handle bars (should be right in front of you and slightly below the monitors), but this is purely a personal preference.
Current Status Status On Course Place: 567 Distance: 26.5 miles Station: Beals Point Elasped Time: 05:02:51lap 3 in 2:28 ... still ahead of 'A goal' pace!![]()
Do we have tracking for Duck?
Now it's 50% chance of rain, possibility of thunderstorms, single digit wind speeds and a high of 61.Juxt - don't rule out just a good walk or two. I was sore after the recent half, and even a one mile walk home from the university the next day helped to stretch out. Don't feel like you need to push HR. You just want to get the blood flowing and generate some light movement so the muscles stay loose.
How's the 10 day forecast look?
I agree. I'd probably shut it down until race day.I'm thinking that I shouldn't run again until Boston. Or, at most, a short run the day before. I'm assuming the advantage of running pain free (hopefully) will outweigh any small loss of fitness from a week of rest. Regardless, though, I would classify the pain as moderate so I can and will race no matter what. Any opinions on this?
As much as I bow to Steve and that kind of speed...4th lap complete:BassNBrew said:http://www.umstead100.org/
Bib #137 if you want to follow this debacle.
Race plan - bank miles early, try to hang on and finish.
A goal - 24 hours. 14:24 pace. I only mention this because I would like to get the first 25 miles done on this plan. 2:20 for lap one, 2:35 for lap two. 4:55 at the quarter pole. 2:45 lap three and 3:00 for lap four. 5:45 for the second quarter and 10:40 at the halfway point. I'd have to average 14:48 from here or 3:05 laps to make it in 24 hours which won't happen.
B goal - Beat the 30 hour cutoff. 2:30 for lap one, 2:45 for lap two. 5:15 at the quarter pole which is doable. 3:00 for lap three and 3:15 for lap four. 6:15 for the second quarter and 11:30 at the halfway mark. Basically accomplished this at Table Rock so this is a good goal. That leaves 18 hours (plus 30 min contingency plan) to do 50 miles. 21'36" miles which I can walk will get me there.
Temps will range between the upper 30s and upper 60s. No rain forecasted. No shade as the leaves aren't out yet.
Forgot to mention, first mile is dedicated to Sand and will be sub 10:00.
1 - 2:00
2 - 2:07
3 - 2:28
4 - 2:46
Total elapsed time: 9 hours, 21 minutes. He's halfway done. (!!!) However, he's over an hour ahead of his 'A goal' plan (and his fourth lap target was 3:00). He effectively SandedTM the first 50 miles. Go BnB!!!
has to go to sanding the first 50 freakin miles of this thing for BNB.Maybe take some pictures for scouting purposes and post it here so we can have a better sense for what you are going through on race day?At the very least, I'll get to scope out the sorority chicks that are hosting the event.
I agree. I'd probably shut it down until race day.I'm thinking that I shouldn't run again until Boston. Or, at most, a short run the day before. I'm assuming the advantage of running pain free (hopefully) will outweigh any small loss of fitness from a week of rest. Regardless, though, I would classify the pain as moderate so I can and will race no matter what. Any opinions on this?
100 milers is a complete different beast. I have tracked friends through a few of these things and as much as I am inspired/impressed, it's never made me want to go out and do one.As much as I bow to Steve and that kind of speed...4th lap complete:BassNBrew said:http://www.umstead100.org/
Bib #137 if you want to follow this debacle.
Race plan - bank miles early, try to hang on and finish.
A goal - 24 hours. 14:24 pace. I only mention this because I would like to get the first 25 miles done on this plan. 2:20 for lap one, 2:35 for lap two. 4:55 at the quarter pole. 2:45 lap three and 3:00 for lap four. 5:45 for the second quarter and 10:40 at the halfway point. I'd have to average 14:48 from here or 3:05 laps to make it in 24 hours which won't happen.
B goal - Beat the 30 hour cutoff. 2:30 for lap one, 2:45 for lap two. 5:15 at the quarter pole which is doable. 3:00 for lap three and 3:15 for lap four. 6:15 for the second quarter and 11:30 at the halfway mark. Basically accomplished this at Table Rock so this is a good goal. That leaves 18 hours (plus 30 min contingency plan) to do 50 miles. 21'36" miles which I can walk will get me there.
Temps will range between the upper 30s and upper 60s. No rain forecasted. No shade as the leaves aren't out yet.
Forgot to mention, first mile is dedicated to Sand and will be sub 10:00.
1 - 2:00
2 - 2:07
3 - 2:28
4 - 2:46
Total elapsed time: 9 hours, 21 minutes. He's halfway done. (!!!) However, he's over an hour ahead of his 'A goal' plan (and his fourth lap target was 3:00). He effectively SandedTM the first 50 miles. Go BnB!!!
The ultimatehas to go to sanding the first 50 freakin miles of this thing for BNB.
Incredible.
He wanted 10:40 at the half way point and he is at 9:21. Unbelievable100 milers is a complete different beast. I have tracked friends through a few of these things and as much as I am inspired/impressed, it's never made me want to go out and do one.As much as I bow to Steve and that kind of speed...4th lap complete:BassNBrew said:http://www.umstead100.org/
Bib #137 if you want to follow this debacle.
Race plan - bank miles early, try to hang on and finish.
A goal - 24 hours. 14:24 pace. I only mention this because I would like to get the first 25 miles done on this plan. 2:20 for lap one, 2:35 for lap two. 4:55 at the quarter pole. 2:45 lap three and 3:00 for lap four. 5:45 for the second quarter and 10:40 at the halfway point. I'd have to average 14:48 from here or 3:05 laps to make it in 24 hours which won't happen.
B goal - Beat the 30 hour cutoff. 2:30 for lap one, 2:45 for lap two. 5:15 at the quarter pole which is doable. 3:00 for lap three and 3:15 for lap four. 6:15 for the second quarter and 11:30 at the halfway mark. Basically accomplished this at Table Rock so this is a good goal. That leaves 18 hours (plus 30 min contingency plan) to do 50 miles. 21'36" miles which I can walk will get me there.
Temps will range between the upper 30s and upper 60s. No rain forecasted. No shade as the leaves aren't out yet.
Forgot to mention, first mile is dedicated to Sand and will be sub 10:00.
1 - 2:00
2 - 2:07
3 - 2:28
4 - 2:46
Total elapsed time: 9 hours, 21 minutes. He's halfway done. (!!!) However, he's over an hour ahead of his 'A goal' plan (and his fourth lap target was 3:00). He effectively SandedTM the first 50 miles. Go BnB!!!
The ultimatehas to go to sanding the first 50 freakin miles of this thing for BNB.
Incredible.
I don't remember the exact numbers, but he's banked 2-3 hours over his "A" goal race pace at this point right?
Either he set his goal way too low or he's prolly regretting going out too fast right about now.He wanted 10:40 at the half way point and he is at 9:21. Unbelievable100 milers is a complete different beast. I have tracked friends through a few of these things and as much as I am inspired/impressed, it's never made me want to go out and do one.I don't remember the exact numbers, but he's banked 2-3 hours over his "A" goal race pace at this point right?As much as I bow to Steve and that kind of speed...4th lap complete:BassNBrew said:http://www.umstead100.org/
Bib #137 if you want to follow this debacle.
Race plan - bank miles early, try to hang on and finish.
A goal - 24 hours. 14:24 pace. I only mention this because I would like to get the first 25 miles done on this plan. 2:20 for lap one, 2:35 for lap two. 4:55 at the quarter pole. 2:45 lap three and 3:00 for lap four. 5:45 for the second quarter and 10:40 at the halfway point. I'd have to average 14:48 from here or 3:05 laps to make it in 24 hours which won't happen.
B goal - Beat the 30 hour cutoff. 2:30 for lap one, 2:45 for lap two. 5:15 at the quarter pole which is doable. 3:00 for lap three and 3:15 for lap four. 6:15 for the second quarter and 11:30 at the halfway mark. Basically accomplished this at Table Rock so this is a good goal. That leaves 18 hours (plus 30 min contingency plan) to do 50 miles. 21'36" miles which I can walk will get me there.
Temps will range between the upper 30s and upper 60s. No rain forecasted. No shade as the leaves aren't out yet.
Forgot to mention, first mile is dedicated to Sand and will be sub 10:00.
1 - 2:00
2 - 2:07
3 - 2:28
4 - 2:46
Total elapsed time: 9 hours, 21 minutes. He's halfway done. (!!!) However, he's over an hour ahead of his 'A goal' plan (and his fourth lap target was 3:00). He effectively SandedTM the first 50 miles. Go BnB!!!
The ultimatehas to go to sanding the first 50 freakin miles of this thing for BNB.
Incredible.
I'm worried about his pace too. I always get the sense that BnB knows what he's doing though so hopefully it's the former.Either he set his goal way too low or he's prolly regretting going out too fast right about now.He wanted 10:40 at the half way point and he is at 9:21. Unbelievable100 milers is a complete different beast. I have tracked friends through a few of these things and as much as I am inspired/impressed, it's never made me want to go out and do one.I don't remember the exact numbers, but he's banked 2-3 hours over his "A" goal race pace at this point right?As much as I bow to Steve and that kind of speed...4th lap complete:BassNBrew said:http://www.umstead100.org/
Bib #137 if you want to follow this debacle.
Race plan - bank miles early, try to hang on and finish.
A goal - 24 hours. 14:24 pace. I only mention this because I would like to get the first 25 miles done on this plan. 2:20 for lap one, 2:35 for lap two. 4:55 at the quarter pole. 2:45 lap three and 3:00 for lap four. 5:45 for the second quarter and 10:40 at the halfway point. I'd have to average 14:48 from here or 3:05 laps to make it in 24 hours which won't happen.
B goal - Beat the 30 hour cutoff. 2:30 for lap one, 2:45 for lap two. 5:15 at the quarter pole which is doable. 3:00 for lap three and 3:15 for lap four. 6:15 for the second quarter and 11:30 at the halfway mark. Basically accomplished this at Table Rock so this is a good goal. That leaves 18 hours (plus 30 min contingency plan) to do 50 miles. 21'36" miles which I can walk will get me there.
Temps will range between the upper 30s and upper 60s. No rain forecasted. No shade as the leaves aren't out yet.
Forgot to mention, first mile is dedicated to Sand and will be sub 10:00.
1 - 2:00
2 - 2:07
3 - 2:28
4 - 2:46
Total elapsed time: 9 hours, 21 minutes. He's halfway done. (!!!) However, he's over an hour ahead of his 'A goal' plan (and his fourth lap target was 3:00). He effectively SandedTM the first 50 miles. Go BnB!!!
The ultimatehas to go to sanding the first 50 freakin miles of this thing for BNB.
Incredible.
Yeah, I hope I'm wrong but damn...we're talkin about 100 miles here. Has BnB ever ran anything close to this distance before? I went out too fast in a 50k and it totally kicked my ### at the end.I'm worried about his pace too. I always get the sense that BnB knows what he's doing though so hopefully it's the former.Either he set his goal way too low or he's prolly regretting going out too fast right about now.He wanted 10:40 at the half way point and he is at 9:21. Unbelievable100 milers is a complete different beast. I have tracked friends through a few of these things and as much as I am inspired/impressed, it's never made me want to go out and do one.I don't remember the exact numbers, but he's banked 2-3 hours over his "A" goal race pace at this point right?As much as I bow to Steve and that kind of speed...4th lap complete:BassNBrew said:http://www.umstead100.org/
Bib #137 if you want to follow this debacle.
Race plan - bank miles early, try to hang on and finish.
A goal - 24 hours. 14:24 pace. I only mention this because I would like to get the first 25 miles done on this plan. 2:20 for lap one, 2:35 for lap two. 4:55 at the quarter pole. 2:45 lap three and 3:00 for lap four. 5:45 for the second quarter and 10:40 at the halfway point. I'd have to average 14:48 from here or 3:05 laps to make it in 24 hours which won't happen.
B goal - Beat the 30 hour cutoff. 2:30 for lap one, 2:45 for lap two. 5:15 at the quarter pole which is doable. 3:00 for lap three and 3:15 for lap four. 6:15 for the second quarter and 11:30 at the halfway mark. Basically accomplished this at Table Rock so this is a good goal. That leaves 18 hours (plus 30 min contingency plan) to do 50 miles. 21'36" miles which I can walk will get me there.
Temps will range between the upper 30s and upper 60s. No rain forecasted. No shade as the leaves aren't out yet.
Forgot to mention, first mile is dedicated to Sand and will be sub 10:00.
1 - 2:00
2 - 2:07
3 - 2:28
4 - 2:46
Total elapsed time: 9 hours, 21 minutes. He's halfway done. (!!!) However, he's over an hour ahead of his 'A goal' plan (and his fourth lap target was 3:00). He effectively SandedTM the first 50 miles. Go BnB!!!
The ultimatehas to go to sanding the first 50 freakin miles of this thing for BNB.
Incredible.
Double digits.cracked 10 for the first time ever this morning![]()
Sweet! Lotta benefits (physical and mental) to those kind of runs.cracked 10 for the first time ever this morning![]()
5 - 2:584th lap complete:BassNBrew said:http://www.umstead100.org/
Bib #137 if you want to follow this debacle.
Race plan - bank miles early, try to hang on and finish.
A goal - 24 hours. 14:24 pace. I only mention this because I would like to get the first 25 miles done on this plan. 2:20 for lap one, 2:35 for lap two. 4:55 at the quarter pole. 2:45 lap three and 3:00 for lap four. 5:45 for the second quarter and 10:40 at the halfway point. I'd have to average 14:48 from here or 3:05 laps to make it in 24 hours which won't happen.
B goal - Beat the 30 hour cutoff. 2:30 for lap one, 2:45 for lap two. 5:15 at the quarter pole which is doable. 3:00 for lap three and 3:15 for lap four. 6:15 for the second quarter and 11:30 at the halfway mark. Basically accomplished this at Table Rock so this is a good goal. That leaves 18 hours (plus 30 min contingency plan) to do 50 miles. 21'36" miles which I can walk will get me there.
Temps will range between the upper 30s and upper 60s. No rain forecasted. No shade as the leaves aren't out yet.
Forgot to mention, first mile is dedicated to Sand and will be sub 10:00.
1 - 2:00
2 - 2:07
3 - 2:28
4 - 2:46
Yup. Classic BnB. Dude's an animal.Yeah, this seems "in character" for BnB. He'll slow down, obviously, but I'll bet he hits his A goal.
Wow man, thank you for posting that. You are gifted.Progression by year (total annual mileage, best 5K, best 10K, best HM, best Full)
2007 - ???? / 17:30 / 38:07 / 86x / DNS
2009 - 2194 / 16:47 / 34:51 / 75:36 / 2:52
2010 - 2722 / 16:23 / 33:31 / 74:42 / 2:46
2011 - 3188 / 16:07 / 33:25 / 72:52 / 2:42 (the 10K was a en route in the half)
2012 - 3743 / 15:40 / 32:32 / 70:33 / 2:37
I've come to expect no less from him. He runs about three training runs, takes a week and a half off and runs a 100 mile race like a mountain goat. He'll put in a solid 50 mile ride sometime next week just to work the kinks out.4th lap complete:
1 - 2:00
2 - 2:07
3 - 2:28
4 - 2:46
Total elapsed time: 9 hours, 21 minutes. He's halfway done. (!!!) However, he's over an hour ahead of his 'A goal' plan (and his fourth lap target was 3:00). He effectively SandedTM the first 50 miles. Go BnB!!!
Giddy up! Sounds like funedit to add - WAY TO GO DUCK!!!!! 10:30:07.90 - Western States lottery qualified!!!So we were down at the UD campus signing the boys up for swim lessons today and I saw a sign for a 5K tomorrow. I've been itching to race, so I've decided to make this a tune up for the triple. The start is roughly 7mi out from my house (part of my normal Sunday LR route). I'm going to run over, race, then run home for a total of ~17mi. Figured this should be an excellent simulation of the actual triple, so why the hell not?![]()
I was originally planning to do an 18/14 MP run, but this simulation might be more beneficial. At the very least, I'll get to scope out the sorority chicks that are hosting the event. I'll probably shoot for HM pace (7:15) at the start and see how I feel from there.![]()
Duck did it? That's incredible!!! Good, steady time, too. Woo Hoo!!!!!! Way to go, SFDuck!!!Giddy up! Sounds like funedit to add - WAY TO GO DUCK!!!!! 10:30:07.90 - Western States lottery qualified!!!
GO DUCK!!!!Duck did it? That's incredible!!! Good, steady time, too. Woo Hoo!!!!!! Way to go, SFDuck!!!Giddy up! Sounds like funedit to add - WAY TO GO DUCK!!!!! 10:30:07.90 - Western States lottery qualified!!!
Thanks fellas! Details later, but basically my knees and IT bands were killing me from mile 13 or so on, but managed to bank a little time in the first half and then hang on.Duck did it? That's incredible!!! Good, steady time, too. Woo Hoo!!!!!! Way to go, SFDuck!!!Giddy up! Sounds like funedit to add - WAY TO GO DUCK!!!!! 10:30:07.90 - Western States lottery qualified!!!
Thanks fellas! Details later, but basically my knees and IT bands were killing me from mile 13 or so on, but managed to bank a little time in the first half and then hang on.Duck did it? That's incredible!!! Good, steady time, too. Woo Hoo!!!!!! Way to go, SFDuck!!!Giddy up! Sounds like funedit to add - WAY TO GO DUCK!!!!! 10:30:07.90 - Western States lottery qualified!!!

Thanks fellas! Details later, but basically my knees and IT bands were killing me from mile 13 or so on, but managed to bank a little time in the first half and then hang on.Duck did it? That's incredible!!! Good, steady time, too. Woo Hoo!!!!!! Way to go, SFDuck!!!Giddy up! Sounds like funedit to add - WAY TO GO DUCK!!!!! 10:30:07.90 - Western States lottery qualified!!!
Congrats brothercracked 10 for the first time ever this morning![]()
Awesome!!Thanks fellas! Details later, but basically my knees and IT bands were killing me from mile 13 or so on, but managed to bank a little time in the first half and then hang on.Duck did it? That's incredible!!! Good, steady time, too. Woo Hoo!!!!!! Way to go, SFDuck!!!Giddy up! Sounds like funedit to add - WAY TO GO DUCK!!!!! 10:30:07.90 - Western States lottery qualified!!!
Another lap!!5 - 2:584th lap complete:BassNBrew said:http://www.umstead100.org/
Bib #137 if you want to follow this debacle.
Race plan - bank miles early, try to hang on and finish.
A goal - 24 hours. 14:24 pace. I only mention this because I would like to get the first 25 miles done on this plan. 2:20 for lap one, 2:35 for lap two. 4:55 at the quarter pole. 2:45 lap three and 3:00 for lap four. 5:45 for the second quarter and 10:40 at the halfway point. I'd have to average 14:48 from here or 3:05 laps to make it in 24 hours which won't happen.
B goal - Beat the 30 hour cutoff. 2:30 for lap one, 2:45 for lap two. 5:15 at the quarter pole which is doable. 3:00 for lap three and 3:15 for lap four. 6:15 for the second quarter and 11:30 at the halfway mark. Basically accomplished this at Table Rock so this is a good goal. That leaves 18 hours (plus 30 min contingency plan) to do 50 miles. 21'36" miles which I can walk will get me there.
Temps will range between the upper 30s and upper 60s. No rain forecasted. No shade as the leaves aren't out yet.
Forgot to mention, first mile is dedicated to Sand and will be sub 10:00.
1 - 2:00
2 - 2:07
3 - 2:28
4 - 2:46
He kept another one under 3 hours! Total time: 12 hours, 19 minutes.
Nice. This is a big milestone and I hope you enjoyed it.cracked 10 for the first time ever this morning![]()
Congratulations, Duck. This is one that I can't even wrap my head around.Thanks fellas! Details later, but basically my knees and IT bands were killing me from mile 13 or so on, but managed to bank a little time in the first half and then hang on.Duck did it? That's incredible!!! Good, steady time, too. Woo Hoo!!!!!! Way to go, SFDuck!!!Giddy up! Sounds like funedit to add - WAY TO GO DUCK!!!!! 10:30:07.90 - Western States lottery qualified!!!
If I'm doing the math right, he can't quite walk it in from here, but he's getting close to that point.75 miles down, 25 to go. He is at approximately 15 and a half hours into the race...
I've come to find out that my age group is one of the most competitive in the area. Official time 2:25:30 That's um. . .stupidAlso, the first 100 miler just finished...9:21 pace.
first chick finishes less than 50 minutes behind...9:41 paceAlso, the first 100 miler just finished...9:21 pace.
Wow...missed this somehow. Congrats! Definitely takes some big time toughness to gut it out for that long!Thanks fellas! Details later, but basically my knees and IT bands were killing me from mile 13 or so on, but managed to bank a little time in the first half and then hang on.Duck did it? That's incredible!!! Good, steady time, too. Woo Hoo!!!!!! Way to go, SFDuck!!!Giddy up! Sounds like funedit to add - WAY TO GO DUCK!!!!! 10:30:07.90 - Western States lottery qualified!!!
big fan. didn't seem all that bad until the very end when i realized it was winding down.Nice. This is a big milestone and I hope you enjoyed it.cracked 10 for the first time ever this morning![]()
Nice job furleybig fan. didn't seem all that bad until the very end when i realized it was winding down.Nice. This is a big milestone and I hope you enjoyed it.cracked 10 for the first time ever this morning![]()
some leg pain for about 30 minutes afterwards but i'm fine now.