Shorts & long sleeved shirtTemp is 45 degrees. Run in pants or shorts?
Have a great time. Good luck with the coeds.Heading out for my first 8k here in a bit. Getting excited/anxious at all the same time. People at work who sponsored me are keeping an eye on me here and I dont want to be embarrassed. I will say that most of the folks at work are in shock that anyone could run an 8k at all so I have that going for me. I am expecting coeds here as it is at the UA campus.![]()
Here is the course. http://www.runnroll.org/8kracemap.asp
Happy Birthday. I hope it is a good one.Oh, and....
Happy Birthday, Tri-Man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't think I have a long sleeve... two shorts sleeve shirts okay?Shorts & long sleeved shirtTemp is 45 degrees. Run in pants or shorts?
You do not need long sleeves for 45 degrees. If it's a race, you'll be fine with a singlet. For a training run, you should still be plenty warm with a short-sleeve shirt. Don't listen to 2Young. Seriously, he's a Lions fan; how smart can he possibly be?Don't think I have a long sleeve... two shorts sleeve shirts okay?Shorts & long sleeved shirtTemp is 45 degrees. Run in pants or shorts?

That sucks. I would've thrown up my arms in "WTF" fashion and probably would've motioned for the POS to come back. And then I probably would've ended up getting in a fight. I've got no patience for juvenile crap like that.This morning while on my run I had some POS redneck in a POS pickup truck think it would be funny to fake swerve at me. I think he expected me to jump into the bushes. The bike lane where I was running is right next to the sidewalk with no curb, so I was definitely not blocking his way. I have had people jeer at me and spit at me lately, but this is the first time a driver acted like he was going to hit me. The only reason I can think of for this is that he must be jealous of me for some reason. I am sure he will take his redneck ### home and have a couple of cases and a few packs of smokes.
Not very smart apparently. GB/DET spread had now been bet up to 14 1/2.You do not need long sleeves for 45 degrees. If it's a race, you'll be fine with a singlet. For a training run, you should still be plenty warm with a short-sleeve shirt. Don't listen to 2Young. Seriously, he's a Lions fan; how smart can he possibly be?Don't think I have a long sleeve... two shorts sleeve shirts okay?Shorts & long sleeved shirtTemp is 45 degrees. Run in pants or shorts?![]()
Yea, but you are younger and bigger than I am.That sucks. I would've thrown up my arms in "WTF" fashion and probably would've motioned for the POS to come back. And then I probably would've ended up getting in a fight. I've got no patience for juvenile crap like that.This morning while on my run I had some POS redneck in a POS pickup truck think it would be funny to fake swerve at me. I think he expected me to jump into the bushes. The bike lane where I was running is right next to the sidewalk with no curb, so I was definitely not blocking his way. I have had people jeer at me and spit at me lately, but this is the first time a driver acted like he was going to hit me. The only reason I can think of for this is that he must be jealous of me for some reason. I am sure he will take his redneck ### home and have a couple of cases and a few packs of smokes.
I do the same thing - I've been known to "catch myself" from falling on the trunk or hood of cars that stop over the crosswalks (or start to roll through intersections before they see me). Twice I've gotten into arguments with guys that stopped and said something. Someday, if I keep it up, that kind of foolishness will probably get me shot.That sucks. I would've thrown up my arms in "WTF" fashion and probably would've motioned for the POS to come back. And then I probably would've ended up getting in a fight. I've got no patience for juvenile crap like that.This morning while on my run I had some POS redneck in a POS pickup truck think it would be funny to fake swerve at me. I think he expected me to jump into the bushes. The bike lane where I was running is right next to the sidewalk with no curb, so I was definitely not blocking his way. I have had people jeer at me and spit at me lately, but this is the first time a driver acted like he was going to hit me. The only reason I can think of for this is that he must be jealous of me for some reason. I am sure he will take his redneck ### home and have a couple of cases and a few packs of smokes.
And just in case you guys have nothing better to do next Sunday morning than to track Wraith and me, here's the link. I'm bib #9972. Not thrilled about the high number, but a friend of mine asked me to run for his buddy's charity (Walter Payton Foundation), and apparently everyone associated with charities got higher numbers. Really makes no difference whatsoever, but I'm a bit of an elitist that way.![]()
LOL. I was # 589 last year!! How the hell do they fit all those numbers on your bib, anyway?<------------------------------ # 45089
And just in case you guys have nothing better to do next Sunday morning than to track Wraith and me, here's the link. I'm bib #9972. Not thrilled about the high number, but a friend of mine asked me to run for his buddy's charity (Walter Payton Foundation), and apparently everyone associated with charities got higher numbers. Really makes no difference whatsoever, but I'm a bit of an elitist that way.![]()
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):Size 6 font. What's even funnier is that they only allow 45,000 people to register!LOL. I was # 589 last year!! How the hell do they fit all those numbers on your bib, anyway?<------------------------------ # 45089
And just in case you guys have nothing better to do next Sunday morning than to track Wraith and me, here's the link. I'm bib #9972. Not thrilled about the high number, but a friend of mine asked me to run for his buddy's charity (Walter Payton Foundation), and apparently everyone associated with charities got higher numbers. Really makes no difference whatsoever, but I'm a bit of an elitist that way.![]()
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Had my best training run ever this AM. 55 degrees at the start, 18 miler with 14 at marathon pace on the agenda.Simply put, I kicked the living poop out of this run.18 miles at 8:10 pace overall, with at least 10 miles at 7:45 pace.I feel awesome.
OK, for those who are not iPod elitists (That would be you, 2Y): I need some good hip-hop songs for my Chicago Marathon playlist. Traditionally, I'm a metal guy (Metallica, Disturbed, Killswitch Engage, Rage Against the Machine, etc.) or sort of Industrial/Metal (Crystal Method, Chemical Brothers, Ministry, Fear Factory) but I want to add some more variety that will be more interesting to listen to (that I haven't listened to on 109 runs already this year!). I have several Eminem songs, California (2Pac), Crank That (Soulja Boy), Gold Digger (Kanye West) and a couple of others. I just don't pay enough attention to know what's out there and I know some of you do. TIA
I am only a race snob, training is OK with me. Want to go way our there, download Apocalyptica's version of Stairway to Heaven. Huge change of pace from just about anything else, yet has a very good running "cadence". Another band on the training mix is Dropping Daylight. They add some piano to their songs, which is another change of pace. Others on the mix that I look forward to are: Your Decision by Alice in Chains, Polyamorus & I Will Not Bow by Breaking Benjamin, Hell Ya by Rev Theory & Scream, Aim & Fire by Bullet for My Valentine.
Ah, yes. Summit Ave.Great job, Ivan!IvanKaramazov said:I'll do a full race report later, but my unofficial garmin time was 3:58:57 (goal time was 3:59:59). Obviously I'm very happy right now, but I'm going to be honest and say that that was a lot harder than I had expected. In particular, the course -- and the last six miles or so in particular -- was much more challenging that I thought it would be.
Those guys are fast and few of them are competing in the world championships. There seemed to be quite a few big time runners there. I met one girl who I later found out came in 8th at Boston marathon last year. I stuck around for the awards ceremony and it just seemed that every other person had quite a racing resume. Like I say official times are not up but I think the winner came in at around 26 mins.I made it!!!!!!My goal was 50 mins. According to my Garmin I did it in 48:32 with avg pace 9:45. The official times are not in yet. I had a great time and yes the co eds were out in full force. It was pretty warm but cooler then I am used to. It was probably in the 70s when the gun went off and 80s by the end.Some really cool people there. They had a wheelchair race. I am not sure you can call those things wheel chairs. I overheard one of the racers say they go for about 6 grandThose guys are fast and few of them are competing in the world championships. There seemed to be quite a few big time runners there. I met one girl who I later found out came in 8th at Boston marathon last year. I stuck around for the awards ceremony and it just seemed that every other person had quite a racing resume. Like I say official times are not up but I think the winner came in at around 26 mins. I did end up walking twice but it was not for long. I was really trying to do well. I feel pretty good about it but I still think I am slower then some one who has been running for close to two years should be. It is what it is though so I will keep trying to get faster. I feel sort of bad because I got behind these two girls who were fantastic and I really wanted to get the bib numbers for you guys but I failed. I paced behind them for a mile or so. Early in the race I ended up passing them but they caught up to me and I stuck with them again. They turned it up at the end and lost me in the last mile so I could not get their bib numbers but I think I will be dreaming about them tonight. I got a free massage and hung around the vendors after the race it was fun. Some of the folks who were getting awards will be running Chicago next week. I am signed up for a 5k next week and I hope to be faster.
Fantastic race, congrats on beating your goal time. Though you lost points for not getting bib numbers of the girls, you can make up for it if they have pictures online, you just have to find them.I made it!!!!!!My goal was 50 mins. According to my Garmin I did it in 48:32 with avg pace 9:45. The official times are not in yet. I had a great time and yes the co eds were out in full force. It was pretty warm but cooler then I am used to. It was probably in the 70s when the gun went off and 80s by the end.Some really cool people there. They had a wheelchair race. I am not sure you can call those things wheel chairs. I overheard one of the racers say they go for about 6 grandThose guys are fast and few of them are competing in the world championships. There seemed to be quite a few big time runners there. I met one girl who I later found out came in 8th at Boston marathon last year. I stuck around for the awards ceremony and it just seemed that every other person had quite a racing resume. Like I say official times are not up but I think the winner came in at around 26 mins. I did end up walking twice but it was not for long. I was really trying to do well. I feel pretty good about it but I still think I am slower then some one who has been running for close to two years should be. It is what it is though so I will keep trying to get faster. I feel sort of bad because I got behind these two girls who were fantastic and I really wanted to get the bib numbers for you guys but I failed. I paced behind them for a mile or so. Early in the race I ended up passing them but they caught up to me and I stuck with them again. They turned it up at the end and lost me in the last mile so I could not get their bib numbers but I think I will be dreaming about them tonight. I got a free massage and hung around the vendors after the race it was fun. Some of the folks who were getting awards will be running Chicago next week. I am signed up for a 5k next week and I hope to be faster.

Have some cake.woke up this morning ready to run an hour and had bad diarrhea.
Stomach still not feeling good, but we'll see what this afternoon holds.
Thanks for the b'day wishes, guys.Ivan and prosopis - way to go, guys! Way to beat your goals. Prosopis, this was a new experience for you. Feel free to boast a little when you get back to work on Monday!Gruecd, be careful with that higher number. You'll be fighting a lot of foot traffic at the start and crowded streets throughout. Wraith, with 45,000+, you might as well wait and run the race on Monday.Have some cake.woke up this morning ready to run an hour and had bad diarrhea. :( Stomach still not feeling good, but we'll see what this afternoon holds.
Thanks for the b'day wishes, guys.
Ivan and prosopis - way to go, guys! Way to beat your goals. Prosopis, this was a new experience for you. Feel free to boast a little when you get back to work on Monday!
Gruecd, be careful with that higher number. You'll be fighting a lot of foot traffic at the start and crowded streets throughout. Wraith, with 45,000+, you might as well wait and run the race on Monday.
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Bib number doesn't have anything to do with corral placement. I'm still Corral A, so I'm just behind the Elites. Same place I started last year. Congestion shouldn't be an issue.Gruecd, be careful with that higher number. You'll be fighting a lot of foot traffic at the start and crowded streets throughout. Wraith, with 45,000+, you might as well wait and run the race on Monday.
IvanKaramazov said:I'll do a full race report later, but my unofficial garmin time was 3:58:57 (goal time was 3:59:59). Obviously I'm very happy right now, but I'm going to be honest and say that that was a lot harder than I had expected. In particular, the course -- and the last six miles or so in particular -- was much more challenging that I thought it would be.
Regardless, now I have a fun four hour drive back home to look forward to.![]()
Congratulations Ivan! Great job!Bib number doesn't have anything to do with corral placement. I'm still Corral A, so I'm just behind the Elites. Same place I started last year. Congestion shouldn't be an issue.Gruecd, be careful with that higher number. You'll be fighting a lot of foot traffic at the start and crowded streets throughout. Wraith, with 45,000+, you might as well wait and run the race on Monday.

I just kept on going with everybody else in the group. A couple of minutes later our pacer rejoined us but was now running noticeably faster than our 9:09 target pace. Sure enough, that fourth mile came in at 8:37. I was also getting irritated at how congested it was. The 4:00 pace group was quite large, with maybe 60-80 people, things were tight, and water stops were a complete cluster####. Eventually I realized that everybody else was insisting on running behind the pacer, whereas there was basically nobody in front of him, so I worked my way up front, and as long as I stayed a few yards ahead I had the road all to myself.
At this point, I decided that I’ve been training for this event since Memorial Day, and I’m not putting my race in the hands of this jerk, so I just took off on my own. This was also the point where I began to notice a clear discrepancy between my garmin distance and the mile markers. By the time I got to the official halfway mark, I had actually run about 13.3, so I must have blown a bunch of distance early on. I had been very conscious of trying to run tangents, taking corners on the inside, etc, but I either I just completely failed at this or the congestion during the first 10K or so added a bunch of distance. My official half marathon split was only 1:59:36, so even though I was running a nice pace on my garmin, I was barely sub-4. I was periodically checking over my shoulder for the four-hour pacer, with his sign and balloons, but he was nowhere in sight. I picked up my pace a little and turned in the next bunch of miles in the 8:50-9:00 range.Hey, Ivan. First of all, congratulations again on a great job yesterday.Regarding the distance, I doubt it was really that long. I mean, it's normal to run a little bit over, since the course is measured in such a way that assumes you run the tangents perfectly, which is near-impossible to do. But I remember specifically from having run TCM in the past that the buildings in the first (downtown) portion of the race tend to screw up the Garmin, too, so that's probably what explains the difference.Cliff notes. Very inefficient course management, resulting in a total distance of 26.48 miles. Calf problems during the last 10K. Came in about a minute better than goal time (3:58:54 chip).
Slow so you can run without walking. Then get going longer before worrying about faster. IMO, of course.Decided it was time to start getting ready for officiating season. Have been running 3 miles every workday and resting the weekends. Endurance is the main issue as I have a similar problem as Nigel. The lungs are shot well before the body gets tired. I've got a Garmin 305 and it shows that I'm running 10min miles...yet I end up walking about 1-1.5 blocks every mile. I've taken 4min off my 3 mile time with how I'm running/walking currently. Should I slow my running down?
this always seems to be the case for me. GREAT run Ivan!I'll do a full race report later, but my unofficial garmin time was 3:58:57 (goal time was 3:59:59). Obviously I'm very happy right now, but I'm going to be honest and say that that was a lot harder than I had expected. In particular, the course -- and the last six miles or so in particular -- was much more challenging that I thought it would be.
Regardless, now I have a fun four hour drive back home to look forward to.![]()
Looking at my garmin info I see that I just dont maintain a steady speed/pace. It is all over the place. My HR also hit 186 during this run. Avg HR was 176. That does not seem good but I dont really know?
205 - half your age would make that just about our max.That's very possible. I noticed that the "real-time pace" was completely screwed up for the first couple of miles because of all the buildings and underpasses, and I did lose most of that distance in what seemed like the first 10K or so.Regarding the distance, I doubt it was really that long. I mean, it's normal to run a little bit over, since the course is measured in such a way that assumes you run the tangents perfectly, which is near-impossible to do. But I remember specifically from having run TCM in the past that the buildings in the first (downtown) portion of the race tend to screw up the Garmin, too, so that's probably what explains the difference.
Just awesome!
Injuries suck!!