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Ran a 10k in June (4 Viewers)

Thanks to all for the nice words -- still waiting for someone to tell me to quit whining and HTFU

Did my first pre-work run in a couple months this morning. Just 5 miles, but getting out there and doing it was the main thing. Amazing how much more energy I feel like I have already at work this morning.

 
hey bros- was totally running maybe 30-40 miles a month before. thinking about bumping it up to 60 this month. too much too soon?

 
hey bros- was totally running maybe 30-40 miles a month before. thinking about bumping it up to 60 this month. too much too soon?
Normally, I would say no its not a good idea...but in the end you are adding 5 miles to your week. Maybe not go right out and add 5 in right away.Start by adding a slow 3 mile run to the week or just adding a mile onto the end of a few runs.The next week do the same.But at such a low base...its hard to really add that large of a percentage of miles so quickly.Just do it slowly and it should be no problem. May take more than a month to get to the 60 miles.
 
hey bros- was totally running maybe 30-40 miles a month before. thinking about bumping it up to 60 this month. too much too soon?
Normally, I would say no its not a good idea...but in the end you are adding 5 miles to your week. Maybe not go right out and add 5 in right away.Start by adding a slow 3 mile run to the week or just adding a mile onto the end of a few runs.The next week do the same.But at such a low base...its hard to really add that large of a percentage of miles so quickly.Just do it slowly and it should be no problem. May take more than a month to get to the 60 miles.
upon further reflection, it was probably closer to 45-50 miles last month. wasnt exactly keeping track though.
 
hey bros- was totally running maybe 30-40 miles a month before. thinking about bumping it up to 60 this month. too much too soon?
Normally, I would say no its not a good idea...but in the end you are adding 5 miles to your week. Maybe not go right out and add 5 in right away.Start by adding a slow 3 mile run to the week or just adding a mile onto the end of a few runs.The next week do the same.But at such a low base...its hard to really add that large of a percentage of miles so quickly.Just do it slowly and it should be no problem. May take more than a month to get to the 60 miles.
upon further reflection, it was probably closer to 45-50 miles last month. wasnt exactly keeping track though.
With that...no problem in upping to 60 at all.Will be hard for some here to relate though...since they are routinely cranking out 45-50 mile weeks.
 
'The_Man said:
Looks like I am back. I have never thought of myself as any kind of sun worshiper, but I am beginning to think I must have some measure of seasonal affective disorder. Over the last couple of months, there have been so many mornings when I wake up and just can’t force myself to get out of bed to run, even though I’m no longer sleeping. And that’s been despite a record winter for warmth and lack of snow.Last year, I quit running over the holidays and then didn’t start again until June. I’m much better than that this year – have been running on the weekends, even when I couldn’t get out of bed on workdays. So while I’m kind of fat and slow right now, at least I’ve done 12-mile runs for the last 6 Sundays with a faster, shorter run on Saturdays.This past Saturday, it was 6 miles at an overall 7:37 pace, with a 3-mile tempo segment where I averaged 7:13. And then yesterday I did 12 with a real focus on never letting my Heart Rate get over 150. Ended up doing 8:49 pace with a 144 HR.I’m signed up for the Cherry Blossom 10-miler in downtown DC on April 1. Back at Christmas time when I was in post-marathon shape, I had a goal of breaking 70 minutes in this race. That’s probably not realistic based on my current fitness, but we’ll see.Glad to see so many people doing so well. BnB, your RR was awesome. It helped me HTFU and get back to work.
Welcome back. April 1 isn't very far away, but then again you're not that far off your goal pace right now. Good luck regardless.______________________________This week is spring break for us, which is usually when I shift out of maintenance mode and into early season training mode. Of course, the only thing on my calendar right now is our local half marathon in May, but I'd like to do well in it, and I'm ready to start logging some more miles anyway. For the past several months I've been doing a weekly schedule of 5/5/5/10/10. Last week I exented one of those 10-milers out to 12, and I pushed it a little further to 13 this past Sunday. The plan for the next few weeks is to do something like:Sunday: 12-15Monday: 5 recoveryTuesday: Speed (either a tempo run or 800s, alternating between the two each week)Wednesday: offThursday: 10Friday: 5 recoverySaturday: offThe day-to-day to workouts will get moved around I'm sure, but that makes for a good week.
 
hey bros- was totally running maybe 30-40 miles a month before. thinking about bumping it up to 60 this month. too much too soon?
Normally, I would say no its not a good idea...but in the end you are adding 5 miles to your week. Maybe not go right out and add 5 in right away.Start by adding a slow 3 mile run to the week or just adding a mile onto the end of a few runs.The next week do the same.But at such a low base...its hard to really add that large of a percentage of miles so quickly.Just do it slowly and it should be no problem. May take more than a month to get to the 60 miles.
upon further reflection, it was probably closer to 45-50 miles last month. wasnt exactly keeping track though.
With that...no problem in upping to 60 at all.Will be hard for some here to relate though...since they are routinely cranking out 45-50 mile weeks.
General rule of thumb is about a 10% increase in weekly mileage. Adding in a step back/recovery week every 3rd week is a good idea also.
 
Got in a solid 4 mile recovery run at 7 minute pace. Legs felt solid outside of my calves cramping.
Doesn't sound like a recovery run.
I could've went slower perhaps, but I just made solid strides on a snowy trail in Wisconsin. I never really pushed my pace and it turned out to be 30-45 seconds below my race pace goal, so it was close to a recovery run. Just trying to log some miles.
Just a word of caution (not trying to pile on). You'll burn the wick at both ends if you ran a recovery run like this all the time.Assuming you meant race pace goal is what you were targeting for your recent 5K race...that's way faster than a recovery run should be. 30-45sec slower than 5K is just about tempo range. Recovery runs should be done 2:30+ slower than your 5K pace. These should be embarassingly slow runs.
Nicely said, Ned. And Benson, like he said, we're not trying to pile on, but just looking out.
No, it's great I appreciate it. I haven't been consistent with my running so any help is welcomed.
 
Ended up getting 5 miles in tonight...mile warm up and cool down with 3 miles at race pace in there.Tomorrow I will get a little rest day...Wednesday for 6 or so easy miles.Rest on Thursday...some shakeout miles on Friday and the half on Saturday.
What pace are you shooting for on your half?
8:45 with hopes of going lower if all goes right.
Solid pace, let us know how it goes.
 
Thanks to all for the nice words -- still waiting for someone to tell me to quit whining and HTFU
Hey, quit whining and HTFU! But seriously, that issue with the sun can definitely have an effect ...be careful with that.---8 x 400m this a.m. @ :90.
You're doing your intervals assuming 6:00 5K pace? That's what I do, too. Nice. :thumbup:
I actually target my mile repeats at 5K pace. 800m repeats are 5K minus 10-15 seconds per mile; 400m repeats are 5K minus 20-30 seconds per mile. So I'm hoping to run the first 5K at about 6:30 per mile. These two, three-week segments of speed work and pacing are as focused as I've been in many, many years on the shorter distances. I'm eager to see what happens on April 1st (and beyond)So you think the 400m repeats should be at the 5K pace? I push them faster to increase stride length and leg rotation ...get the legs and lungs beyond their comfort zone so that the 5K pace feels more manageable (= less painful :rolleyes: ). BTW, I kept my rests to one minute.
 
2012 RocknRoll NOLA

Garmin Data, if you want to read along.

I know it gets said a million times here, but I could not have done this marathon without the group in this thread. I’m not sure if the achievement has really sunk in yet. I know years ago I thought about how cool it would be to actually run a marathon, but never gave it much thought. It seemed like a pretty unattainable goal. Big thanks to all the guys here.

On to the weekend, I had a terrible meal the night before. La Cote Brasserie. It was just terrible. Don’t go.

I was surprisingly relaxed the whole weekend, I usually get pretty wound up for things like this, but I managed to get a great night’s sleep.

The weather was perfect. I wondered around the corrals a bit seeing if I knew anyone, I even walked thru corral 2 to look for Sand…even though I would never recognized him. It got intimidating so I got the hell out of there.

The goal was 4:15, and that was solely based on the McMillan Pace calculator. I was hoping to maintain a 10 minute pace for the first 10 miles. Then to step it up a bit…what was I thinking?

Mile 1: 10:13 HR 135 Sea of people, I tried not to trip over anyone.

Miles 2-6 mostly the pace was in the 9:50’s HR was in the high 140’s (higher than I wanted it). This was thru a nice portion of Nola I wasn’t really familiar with. Despite dozens of Nola trips its always revolved around the Quarter and the Superdome. It was nice to see the old neighborhoods. The crowds were pretty massive still. At one point some dude shouted out, “hey, its Drew Brees!!!” and all the runners turned to look..no casualties, but it got dicey. Of course it wasn’t really him.

Mile 7: 9:35 HR 157. I didn’t realize I was going that fast, didn’t want too either. I got excited; I knew my wife was going to be along that mile.

Miles 8-10: got the pace back in the 9:50’s but the HR was still in the mid 150’s. I was hoping to still be in the 140’s for the first 10 miles. At this point it hit me that I had to take a leak, but all the porta-potties had lines.

Mile 11: 10:27 HR 158. I finally took a leak here. It was painful to watch my overall pace go from 9:52 to 10:00, but I guess that’s part of it.

Miles 12-13: Trying to make up time from the piss break I managed 9:34 and 9:43 here, HR 166, that can’t be good I thought. I would be lying if I said I didn’t find it just a little funny seeing all the half guys and girls dropping like flies here….just because I’ve been that guy that keeled over on mile 12. I was worried about my HR at this point.

Miles 14-15: Pace was 10:05, HR still 166. I was happy the HR didn’t spike much more after that. It went up from the mid 150s to the mid 160s in less than a mile. I was getting a little tired here, the spectators died down and the runners thinned out. It was kind of a lonely feeling.

Mile 16: 10:14 pace, HR 166. It started hurting here. It was funny there was one spectator with a sign that said, “if you’re feeling good now don’t worry it will pass.” He was right. I stopped trying to calculate in my head what pace I needed to be be at to finish at 4:15. I knew it was out of reach. My next goal was 4:30, just cause it’s a solid number.

Mile 17-21: my current pace went from 10:25 to 11:21, HR stayed around 165. This section was brutal to me. It had been nicely shaded streets the entire time. Now we were out on Lake Pontchartrain. No trees and a little windy. My goal here changed to either 5 hours or not quitting. I was hurting, and I wasn’t anticipating hurting like this.

Mile 22: 12 minutes. HR 161. I took another leak here, not because I had too but because I was looking for an excuse to stop for just a sec. Since mile 17 I had been walking thru the water stops. At this point I figured I could finish, but it was gonna be ugly. I stopped caring.

Miles 23-25: Pace was all over the place. 11:23, 11:24, 10:50. HR sill 165ish. I was ready for it to be over, can’t sugar coat it anymore. I was done. Somehow I looked at my watch and thought for the briefest of moments 4:30 was still within reach, but I could not get my legs moving a bit. It was all I had to maintain the pace I was at. I finally saw my wife again here; I even stopped and gave her a quick hug.

Mile 26: 10:59 HR 171. I tried to give it my all here because the photographers were everywhere! But 10:59 was it, I was toast.

I would do it again in a heartbeat, and I’m actually looking forward to it. I can honestly say it was tougher than I had imagined. The adrenaline didn’t carry me like I thought it would. My training wasn’t too intense either, and I knew that. I think I said here on more than one occasion it was never anything too taxing. Just enough to finish was the intent of the training program, I guess.

 
jb - great write up and i had such a similar experience as you did for my first. I can remember the crowd thinning after teh halfers cut off and thinking about being alone, Hitting mile 23 (as 22 was my longest training run) and thinking WTF was I doing and may never doing it again, and lastly finishing and thinking about when I could get ready for another one. Thanks for those memories.

 
Nice report jb, congratulations!

I think you know your first half was too fast but that's quite an accomplishment to maintain a 160+ HR for 16 miles. I could never do that. Pretty tough dude!

 
'jb1020 said:
The weather was perfect. I wondered around the corrals a bit seeing if I knew anyone, I even walked thru corral 2 to look for Sand…even though I would never recognized him. It got intimidating so I got the hell out of there.
:lol: I know what you mean.
'jb1020 said:
The goal was 4:15, and that was solely based on the McMillan Pace calculator. I was hoping to maintain a 10 minute pace for the first 10 miles. Then to step it up a bit…what was I thinking
My hatred for that calculator grows every day.
'jb1020 said:
The crowds were pretty massive still. At one point some dude shouted out, “hey, its Drew Brees!!!” and all the runners turned to look..no casualties, but it got dicey. Of course it wasn’t really him.
:lmao: :lmao:
'jb1020 said:
Mile 16: 10:14 pace, HR 166. It started hurting here. It was funny there was one spectator with a sign that said, “if you’re feeling good now don’t worry it will pass.” He was right. I stopped trying to calculate in my head what pace I needed to be be at to finish at 4:15. I knew it was out of reach. My next goal was 4:30, just cause it’s a solid number.
That's a tough pill to swallow. I had a really hard time coming to grips with that on my first also. Good job keeping it real.Congrats again! Add another successful FFA marathoner to the list. :thumbup:
 
When I ran my marathon, I started cramping at mile 22 and was never able to run or even jog again. Had to walk the last 4 miles. I was :cry:

 
'jb1020 said:
At one point some dude shouted out, “hey, its Drew Brees!!!” and all the runners turned to look..no casualties, but it got dicey. Of course it wasn’t really him.
"Look out! It's Anthony Hargrove!" would have been more effective motivation, but whatever. Nice job, and congratulations on a big accomplishment.
 
The_Man: Welcome Back!! Nothing wrong at all with time away, but now get your ### on the road and lets see what you got!

jb: Awesome effort. Sounds like you give it your all. Welcome to the 26.2 club. Another Bucket List checkoff!

Sand: I'm hoping to start back in the water at the end of the month, and am still blown away by your "slow" times! I also can't wait to load some runs on the site you posted earlier this week :thumbup:

Grue: Can't wait to see your 5k time this weekend!

Tri-Man: Way to rock the intervals!

Ned: You are our newest poster boy for success in this thread. I love to hear your "intimidation" statements. You've gone quickly from someone wondering what the hell they were doing, to a great mentor around here :thumbup:

Acer: Cramping sucks. Most women already know this :unsure:

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My update:

Got in 8.7 miles on the elliptical yesterday, followed by an Ab ripper session who I currently have a love/hate relationship with. This morning was a damn hard 20 mile bike ride 20+ mph freakin winds!). Tonight will be P90x chest/back.

 
'jb1020 said:
At one point some dude shouted out, “hey, its Drew Brees!!!” and all the runners turned to look..no casualties, but it got dicey. Of course it wasn’t really him.
"Look out! It's Anthony Hargrove!" would have been more effective motivation, but whatever. Nice job, and congratulations on a big accomplishment.
Another good one I heard from a water station worker..."I put a bounty on the finish line for you!"
 
The_Man: Welcome Back!! Nothing wrong at all with time away, but now get your ### on the road and lets see what you got!jb: Awesome effort. Sounds like you give it your all. Welcome to the 26.2 club. Another Bucket List checkoff!Sand: I'm hoping to start back in the water at the end of the month, and am still blown away by your "slow" times! I also can't wait to load some runs on the site you posted earlier this week :thumbup:Grue: Can't wait to see your 5k time this weekend!Tri-Man: Way to rock the intervals!Ned: You are our newest poster boy for success in this thread. I love to hear your "intimidation" statements. You've gone quickly from someone wondering what the hell they were doing, to a great mentor around here :thumbup: Acer: Cramping sucks. Most women already know this :unsure: ____________________________My update:Got in 8.7 miles on the elliptical yesterday, followed by an Ab ripper session who I currently have a love/hate relationship with. This morning was a damn hard 20 mile bike ride 20+ mph freakin winds!). Tonight will be P90x chest/back.
:blush: Like jb said, I owe so much to this crew here. I almost feel indebted to you guys. I'm just trying to pay it forward with the new guys coming in.You're a friggin' maniac doubling up P90x plus your normal routines. :o
 
I forwarded the marathonfoto link to my parents...they're dying to order the plaque for me. "It'll look great in your office!"

I have a feeling they'll I'll get it framed for my birthday or something.

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Nothing against the plaques or the plaque owners here (cause I do like them), but I fully intend to be able to look back in 5 years and laugh at the fact that I ran one in 4:33.

I told them they can buy me a plaque when I qualify for Boston :banned:

 
'jb1020 said:
The weather was perfect. I wondered around the corrals a bit seeing if I knew anyone, I even walked thru corral 2 to look for Sand…even though I would never recognized him. It got intimidating so I got the hell out of there.
I had on my FFA shirt, so you probably would have if you had run into me. Fact is, though, that at about 6:55 or so I'm looking at the full corrals wondering why everyone was filtering in there a half hour early. So I decide to be a sheep and got into the corral only to find out that we were starting in two minutes. :bag: So I pretty much wasn't in there until the last second. I did look at a lot of numbers hoping to see you, though.
Miles 2-6 mostly the pace was in the 9:50’s HR was in the high 140’s (higher than I wanted it). This was thru a nice portion of Nola I wasn’t really familiar with. Despite dozens of Nola trips its always revolved around the Quarter and the Superdome. It was nice to see the old neighborhoods. The crowds were pretty massive still. At one point some dude shouted out, “hey, its Drew Brees!!!” and all the runners turned to look..no casualties, but it got dicey. Of course it wasn’t really him.
There was a guy dressed up like Brees, pads and all. He passed me around mile 12.
Mile 17-21: my current pace went from 10:25 to 11:21, HR stayed around 165. This section was brutal to me. It had been nicely shaded streets the entire time. Now we were out on Lake Pontchartrain. No trees and a little windy. My goal here changed to either 5 hours or not quitting. I was hurting, and I wasn’t anticipating hurting like this.
Yeah - the Lakefront is pretty exposed. And the wind picked up pretty good. Just to share - my Garmin trace. Not sure why the pace showed me being so inconsistent. And my HR was borked - I went pretty smoothly from a start of 167 to 177 at the end.

 
'jb1020 said:
At one point some dude shouted out, “hey, its Drew Brees!!!” and all the runners turned to look..no casualties, but it got dicey. Of course it wasn’t really him.
"Look out! It's Anthony Hargrove!" would have been more effective motivation, but whatever. Nice job, and congratulations on a big accomplishment.
Another good one I heard from a water station worker..."I put a bounty on the finish line for you!"
:lmao: Again, congrats on toughing it out! Great report.
 
When I ran my marathon, I started cramping at mile 22 and was never able to run or even jog again. Had to walk the last 4 miles. I was :cry:
I haven't gone that far yet but salt tablets (Thermotabs) are basically allowing me to train for a marathon. Before using them I would cramp up at about 12-14 miles all the time. Definitely recommend. Take 2 before a long run, then 1 or 2 every 5mi or so.
 
When I ran my marathon, I started cramping at mile 22 and was never able to run or even jog again. Had to walk the last 4 miles. I was :cry:
I haven't gone that far yet but salt tablets (Thermotabs) are basically allowing me to train for a marathon. Before using them I would cramp up at about 12-14 miles all the time. Definitely recommend. Take 2 before a long run, then 1 or 2 every 5mi or so.
They we're giving out salt at a few stations. I had never used any during training so I was too worried to try in on the fly.
 
I forwarded the marathonfoto link to my parents...they're dying to order the plaque for me. "It'll look great in your office!"I have a feeling they'll I'll get it framed for my birthday or something. :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: Nothing against the plaques or the plaque owners here (cause I do like them), but I fully intend to be able to look back in 5 years and laugh at the fact that I ran one in 4:33. I told them they can buy me a plaque when I qualify for Boston :banned:
I got some really cool stuff from my family. A wheaties box with me running. And then I got the mock bib and mock medal plaque with my name and time. But my favorite is me and my then 6 month old at mile 14 or so
 
When I ran my marathon, I started cramping at mile 22 and was never able to run or even jog again. Had to walk the last 4 miles. I was :cry:
I haven't gone that far yet but salt tablets (Thermotabs) are basically allowing me to train for a marathon. Before using them I would cramp up at about 12-14 miles all the time. Definitely recommend. Take 2 before a long run, then 1 or 2 every 5mi or so.
:blackdot:
 
This appears to be a great thread for an aspiring marathon runner.

I have a few questions.

First off, I've never ran more than 2.5 miles in my life. I used to be in good shape, but I measured my good shape by the amount of time I could spend playing basketball.

Anyway, as most do, I've put on a few pounds over the years, and am trying to get in shape/lose weight. These two things can be independent of each other, although I'm sure that getting to the point where I can run a marathon would cause me to lose weight as well.

I'm using the couch to 5k program, but am only on my second session. Has anyone tried that and is that a great way to get started?

 
This appears to be a great thread for an aspiring marathon runner.I have a few questions.First off, I've never ran more than 2.5 miles in my life. I used to be in good shape, but I measured my good shape by the amount of time I could spend playing basketball. Anyway, as most do, I've put on a few pounds over the years, and am trying to get in shape/lose weight. These two things can be independent of each other, although I'm sure that getting to the point where I can run a marathon would cause me to lose weight as well.I'm using the couch to 5k program, but am only on my second session. Has anyone tried that and is that a great way to get started?
Have heard people have good luck with the coach to 5k program.Go with it...if you enjoy it...build up your base weekly mileage slowly adding onto your runs during the week...no need to worry about speed or speed work. Just build the long slow miles. Take it slow, minimize injury risk.The increased mileage plus eating right will definitely help the weight come off (dropped over 50 lbs in the past year training for a half and looking to drop another 15-20 by December while training for a full marathon.Will warn you, when your miles get higher...at least for me, my appetite increased big time. Ran 130+ miles in February and I may have lost a pound. I find myself hungry quite often and use the rationalization of "Im running X much, I can eat a bit more". Problem is I went against how I lost weight and started eating some "crap" food again. Had to get back on track.This is definitely a great thread for someone wanting to get into running. SO much great advice here from many of the posters.
 
This appears to be a great thread for an aspiring marathon runner.I have a few questions.First off, I've never ran more than 2.5 miles in my life. I used to be in good shape, but I measured my good shape by the amount of time I could spend playing basketball. Anyway, as most do, I've put on a few pounds over the years, and am trying to get in shape/lose weight. These two things can be independent of each other, although I'm sure that getting to the point where I can run a marathon would cause me to lose weight as well.I'm using the couch to 5k program, but am only on my second session. Has anyone tried that and is that a great way to get started?
I went from barely able to run for longer than 30 seconds last week of Dec, to a 5k in 30 days, a 5k trail run in Feb a 4mile beach run last week, and preparing for a 10k on 3/25.These guys will take care of you.Good luck
 
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When I ran my marathon, I started cramping at mile 22 and was never able to run or even jog again. Had to walk the last 4 miles. I was :cry:
I haven't gone that far yet but salt tablets (Thermotabs) are basically allowing me to train for a marathon. Before using them I would cramp up at about 12-14 miles all the time. Definitely recommend. Take 2 before a long run, then 1 or 2 every 5mi or so.
:blackdot:
If you are test driving products like these, give Endurolytes by Hammer Nutrition a try. Coming off the first swim, leg 3 of a 10 leg survival triathlon, I was cramping badly (about an hour and a half in to a five hour event). Strange cramps too, from my groin down to my calves. There was an aid station coming out of the water and I took 2 Endurolytes and a Hammer Gel and ran the cramps away on the 4 mile trail run that followed to the next lake to swim across. I grabbed 2 more Endurolytes at 2 more aid stations and never cramped again.
 
'tri-man 47 said:
So you think the 400m repeats should be at the 5K pace? I push them faster to increase stride length and leg rotation ...get the legs and lungs beyond their comfort zone so that the 5K pace feels more manageable (= less painful :rolleyes: ). BTW, I kept my rests to one minute.
IDK. Pfitz just says 5K pace for all intervals workouts, whether you're doing 400s or 1600s, so that's what I do. :shrug:
'jb1020 said:
I would do it again in a heartbeat, and I’m actually looking forward to it.
:thumbup: Great job, and great race report!
Grue: Can't wait to see your 5k time this weekend!
We'll see. The only way it's going to work schedule-wise is if I do my 20-miler on Friday afternoon, which won't exactly leave me with fresh legs for the 5K on Saturday.
You're a friggin' maniac doubling up P90x plus your normal routines. :o
Agreed. :yes:
If you are test driving products like these, give Endurolytes by Hammer Nutrition a try.
I use Lava Salts, but to each his own.
 
Quad felt a lot better today, and it was pretty nice outside, so I left work a little early and headed out with the intention of doing a nice, leisurely 8-miler. Legs had some bounce to them, however, and as I proceeded to almost get hit by three different inattentive MF drivers, I ended up doing an impromptu progression run. Splits as follows: 7:53, 7:34, 7:25, 7:23, 7:10, 7:02, 6:51, and 6:37. Overall average 7:14/mile. I'll bag the tempo miles that I was planning for tomorrow and just go an easy 12 instead.

 
'tri-man 47 said:
So you think the 400m repeats should be at the 5K pace? I push them faster to increase stride length and leg rotation ...get the legs and lungs beyond their comfort zone so that the 5K pace feels more manageable (= less painful :rolleyes: ). BTW, I kept my rests to one minute.
IDK. Pfitz just says 5K pace for all intervals workouts, whether you're doing 400s or 1600s, so that's what I do. :shrug:
Oh! Good to know. I'll keep that in mind. Thx.
 
Feeling great about my 10K at the end of the month after progress the last couple weeks. Got in 6 @ 9:01 on Sunday and 3.5 mile tempo around 8:20 today. Looking at another 3.5 on Thursday.

Because time is at a premium with two small boys, I've only been running three days a week. I'm thinking about adding a fourth day with some hills or maybe a hard 2 mile run over the next couple weeks to increase some speed.

What do y'all think about that as a strategy?

 
So you think the 400m repeats should be at the 5K pace? I push them faster to increase stride length and leg rotation ...get the legs and lungs beyond their comfort zone so that the 5K pace feels more manageable (= less painful :rolleyes: ). BTW, I kept my rests to one minute.
IDK. Pfitz just says 5K pace for all intervals workouts, whether you're doing 400s or 1600s, so that's what I do. :shrug:
Oh! Good to know. I'll keep that in mind. Thx.
Aren't Pfitz's comments strictly for marathon work though? I think you have it right when your main focus is the 5K. You probably want to look at adding some 200m repeats too if you really want to work on leg turnover. I also loved ladder drills where you climb up and back down in intervals. 4x200, 3x400, 2x800 and then reverse it back down. Its a fantastic workout.
 
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Feeling great about my 10K at the end of the month after progress the last couple weeks. Got in 6 @ 9:01 on Sunday and 3.5 mile tempo around 8:20 today. Looking at another 3.5 on Thursday. Because time is at a premium with two small boys, I've only been running three days a week. I'm thinking about adding a fourth day with some hills or maybe a hard 2 mile run over the next couple weeks to increase some speed. What do y'all think about that as a strategy?
Good work!Being that you're getting back in the saddle, I'd say endurance work is probably the highest priority. Since you're already doing tempo work, I'd be leary of adding speed work in also. I know time's a premium, but if I were adding a run to the schedule it'd be a general aerobic type of run.
 
Feeling great about my 10K at the end of the month after progress the last couple weeks. Got in 6 @ 9:01 on Sunday and 3.5 mile tempo around 8:20 today. Looking at another 3.5 on Thursday. Because time is at a premium with two small boys, I've only been running three days a week. I'm thinking about adding a fourth day with some hills or maybe a hard 2 mile run over the next couple weeks to increase some speed. What do y'all think about that as a strategy?
Good work!Being that you're getting back in the saddle, I'd say endurance work is probably the highest priority. Since you're already doing tempo work, I'd be leary of adding speed work in also. I know time's a premium, but if I were adding a run to the schedule it'd be a general aerobic type of run.
In agreement here with Ned, but you can kind of combine the two efforts and make it a hilly GA run. I love these as depending on where you run the hills you get different benefits. Run the hills at the beginning and you finish your run on tired legs. Run the hills toward the end and you will strengthen your legs up a bit more. Either way you will get a good work out in and the hills will be benefitial. I run the same course a couple of times a week, but one of those times I do it in reverse. It is like two completely different runs and the legs feel differently as I do this. I have become a pretty big believer in the hills as being a great training tool. It works the legs really well and builds up some good leg muscle to help you sustain pace late in the race. Tri-man has a good take on this as well.------------9 miles yesterday at a 8:20 pace. Felt pretty good throughout. I think I am coming down with a cold and not sleeping well. I just do not feel rested no matter how much sleep I get. Just strange. Another 9 on the plate today with what is supposed to be 6 x 800 intervals @ 5K pace. Should be fun.Have a great day all.
 
I forwarded the marathonfoto link to my parents...they're dying to order the plaque for me. "It'll look great in your office!"I have a feeling they'll I'll get it framed for my birthday or something. :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: Nothing against the plaques or the plaque owners here (cause I do like them), but I fully intend to be able to look back in 5 years and laugh at the fact that I ran one in 4:33. I told them they can buy me a plaque when I qualify for Boston :banned:
I got some really cool stuff from my family. A wheaties box with me running. And then I got the mock bib and mock medal plaque with my name and time. But my favorite is me and my then 6 month old at mile 14 or so
I actually came around on it pretty quick. I figured it would mean more to them than me, so I told them to go for it. It's one of the smaller ones...
 
This appears to be a great thread for an aspiring marathon runner.I have a few questions.First off, I've never ran more than 2.5 miles in my life. I used to be in good shape, but I measured my good shape by the amount of time I could spend playing basketball. Anyway, as most do, I've put on a few pounds over the years, and am trying to get in shape/lose weight. These two things can be independent of each other, although I'm sure that getting to the point where I can run a marathon would cause me to lose weight as well.I'm using the couch to 5k program, but am only on my second session. Has anyone tried that and is that a great way to get started?
I went from barely able to run for longer than 30 seconds last week of Dec, to a 5k in 30 days, a 5k trail run in Feb a 4mile beach run last week, and preparing for a 10k on 3/25.These guys will take care of you.Good luck
You've come to the right place. I was thumbing thru some old runs last night and looked to see where I was this time last year. March 3, 2011 I ran 3.11 miles, took me 36:33, Pace was 11:44...And I was running hard. March 4, 2012 ran 26.2 @ 10:24 pace. Stick around here a year, see what happens.
 
This appears to be a great thread for an aspiring marathon runner.I have a few questions.First off, I've never ran more than 2.5 miles in my life. I used to be in good shape, but I measured my good shape by the amount of time I could spend playing basketball. Anyway, as most do, I've put on a few pounds over the years, and am trying to get in shape/lose weight. These two things can be independent of each other, although I'm sure that getting to the point where I can run a marathon would cause me to lose weight as well.I'm using the couch to 5k program, but am only on my second session. Has anyone tried that and is that a great way to get started?
I went from barely able to run for longer than 30 seconds last week of Dec, to a 5k in 30 days, a 5k trail run in Feb a 4mile beach run last week, and preparing for a 10k on 3/25.These guys will take care of you.Good luck
You've come to the right place. I was thumbing thru some old runs last night and looked to see where I was this time last year. March 3, 2011 I ran 3.11 miles, took me 36:33, Pace was 11:44...And I was running hard. March 4, 2012 ran 26.2 @ 10:24 pace. Stick around here a year, see what happens.
Wow that's awesome.
 
So you think the 400m repeats should be at the 5K pace? I push them faster to increase stride length and leg rotation ...get the legs and lungs beyond their comfort zone so that the 5K pace feels more manageable (= less painful :rolleyes: ). BTW, I kept my rests to one minute.
IDK. Pfitz just says 5K pace for all intervals workouts, whether you're doing 400s or 1600s, so that's what I do. :shrug:
Oh! Good to know. I'll keep that in mind. Thx.
Aren't Pfitz's comments strictly for marathon work though? I think you have it right when your main focus is the 5K. You probably want to look at adding some 200m repeats too if you really want to work on leg turnover. I also loved ladder drills where you climb up and back down in intervals. 4x200, 3x400, 2x800 and then reverse it back down. Its a fantastic workout.
Yeah, that's probably a good point, Ned. I've never done any focused training for anything shorter than a HM, so I'm pretty much clueless in that regard.
 
Feeling great about my 10K at the end of the month after progress the last couple weeks. Got in 6 @ 9:01 on Sunday and 3.5 mile tempo around 8:20 today. Looking at another 3.5 on Thursday.

Because time is at a premium with two small boys, I've only been running three days a week. I'm thinking about adding a fourth day with some hills or maybe a hard 2 mile run over the next couple weeks to increase some speed.

What do y'all think about that as a strategy?
Good work!Being that you're getting back in the saddle, I'd say endurance work is probably the highest priority. Since you're already doing tempo work, I'd be leary of adding speed work in also. I know time's a premium, but if I were adding a run to the schedule it'd be a general aerobic type of run.
Another good point by Ned. Dude is on a roll. Adding speed AND volume at the same is an injury waiting to happen. Don't do it.
 
This appears to be a great thread for an aspiring marathon runner.I have a few questions.First off, I've never ran more than 2.5 miles in my life. I used to be in good shape, but I measured my good shape by the amount of time I could spend playing basketball. Anyway, as most do, I've put on a few pounds over the years, and am trying to get in shape/lose weight. These two things can be independent of each other, although I'm sure that getting to the point where I can run a marathon would cause me to lose weight as well.I'm using the couch to 5k program, but am only on my second session. Has anyone tried that and is that a great way to get started?
I went from barely able to run for longer than 30 seconds last week of Dec, to a 5k in 30 days, a 5k trail run in Feb a 4mile beach run last week, and preparing for a 10k on 3/25.These guys will take care of you.Good luck
You've come to the right place. I was thumbing thru some old runs last night and looked to see where I was this time last year. March 3, 2011 I ran 3.11 miles, took me 36:33, Pace was 11:44...And I was running hard. March 4, 2012 ran 26.2 @ 10:24 pace. Stick around here a year, see what happens.
:goodposting: Last January running a mile or two really hurt.Now I routinely am out there running 12+ on the weekends (16 mile longest run thus far) and am heading into my 3rd half marathon with another coming a month later and then setting focus to some 5ks this summer before hitting the marathon training for St. Jude.
 
Shader: Welcome to the thread! I've heard nothing but great stories from people using the Couch to 5k program. Stick to your plan, and post all workouts and questions on here to keep you honest and informed. Get your butt off the damn couch already!

Grue: Great progression run, and :finger: to the motorists.

Bentley: I'd recommend sticking with 3 runs, but making all three of them quality (= how I trained). You should have one long, one speed, and one tempo run for your three workouts. I used to have two speed weeks in a row, followed by a hill repeats week. I also cross-trained a couple workouts a week as well, which might be easier to get in with your busy schedule.

pmb: Way to stick to it, even when not feeling 100%. Good luck with your 6x800's!

jb and Shonuff: Awesome to see how both of you have progressed :thumbup: :thumbup:

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I got my chest/back in last night, but didn't get abs in. I'll get them in today after a hard elliptical session.

 

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