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Fixed for furley's Wisconsinish confusion.Do you guys not have mexicans Hmong to do that crap for you there?gdb that. nothing like waking up sunday morning and spending 2 1/2 hours shoveling wet cement, basically
can you have your neighbors talk to my neighbors about shoveling?TIA
Manboobies and a hairy chest? That's not what we had in mind. You can give a little more effort than just inviting in the postman. Maybe UPS?
Tri-Man; if you get a trainer, let us know about it. I'm somewhat interested, but would need some major convincing to buy one.
Ur gonna have a hell of a time getting a base for the ms150 without one. Right now I'm just doing spin classes 2x a week for an hour a pop plus some weights (Ilift). I'll tack on an outside ride on the weekend when I can. As soon as january hits it's 2xspin weekdays tue/thur and trainer m/w for an hour plus long rides on weekends. If I'm not doing 100 effective miles/week in january I'll never make it. By Feb it needs to be 150. March step up the hills.It's not practical for me to ride outside during the day with DST in effect. I'd hate to drop you before bellvue
You get your bike in yet?Check your calendar for April 6 next year. Aledo Ride For Heroes. That's a phenomenal tuneup for the MS hills. Hardest ride I do all year. Never really done it to my satisfaction. This is going to be the year though. Knee is responding very well now and I think I can really amp up the training when the time comes.
I'm certain I won't have a base at all. I'm hoping to run the Austin Marathon on 2/17 = I'll only have 4 to actually train. If Bellvue is in the first 5 miles, you probably have a good chance of dropping meUr gonna have a hell of a time getting a base for the ms150 without one. Right now I'm just doing spin classes 2x a week for an hour a pop plus some weights (Ilift). I'll tack on an outside ride on the weekend when I can. As soon as january hits it's 2xspin weekdays tue/thur and trainer m/w for an hour plus long rides on weekends.
If I'm not doing 100 effective miles/week in january I'll never make it. By Feb it needs to be 150. March step up the hills.
It's not practical for me to ride outside during the day with DST in effect.
I'd hate to drop you before bellvue
You get your bike in yet?
Check your calendar for April 6 next year. Aledo Ride For Heroes. That's a phenomenal tuneup for the MS hills. Hardest ride I do all year. Never really done it to my satisfaction. This is going to be the year though. Knee is responding very well now and I think I can really amp up the training when the time comes.
. Hopefully my run training will give me some endurance for the bike, and I can strength train enough w/o hurting myself for some power. I'll give it my all, but don't know how strong I'll be able to get in those four weeks. 
edited to add, the new bike is in, and she's perfect! It looks like it was ridden for less than 25 miles. The wheels are quite heavy, but the ride is very smooth. I'm riding her to work Mondays and Fridays (16 miles round trip), but don't expect many long rides prior to 2/17.
I'd highly reccomend getting a set of xero xr-1s for road riding. Save those areo wheels for tri events.I'm certain I won't have a base at all. I'm hoping to run the Austin Marathon on 2/17 = I'll only have 4 to actually train. If Bellvue is in the first 5 miles, you probably have a good chance of dropping meUr gonna have a hell of a time getting a base for the ms150 without one. Right now I'm just doing spin classes 2x a week for an hour a pop plus some weights (Ilift). I'll tack on an outside ride on the weekend when I can. As soon as january hits it's 2xspin weekdays tue/thur and trainer m/w for an hour plus long rides on weekends.
If I'm not doing 100 effective miles/week in january I'll never make it. By Feb it needs to be 150. March step up the hills.
It's not practical for me to ride outside during the day with DST in effect.
I'd hate to drop you before bellvue
You get your bike in yet?
Check your calendar for April 6 next year. Aledo Ride For Heroes. That's a phenomenal tuneup for the MS hills. Hardest ride I do all year. Never really done it to my satisfaction. This is going to be the year though. Knee is responding very well now and I think I can really amp up the training when the time comes.edited to add, the new bike is in, and she's perfect! It looks like it was ridden for less than 25 miles. The wheels are quite heavy, but the ride is very smooth. I'm riding her to work Mondays and Fridays (16 miles round trip), but don't expect many long rides prior to 2/17.
It'll be a half-marathon, so I don't know that miles the day before will matter that much. It's not like you'll be taking off at top speed. Definitely drink fluids and eat smart (carbo load Friday night and Saturday morning!), stretch for a bit during the day, and get good rest.
this is my fear. i've been hitting the roads. it sucks. so far no close calls but i'm sure it's going to happen. not so much worried about the cars as i am slipping on the ice and busting up my tailbone or head.
IMO, after running my first one this fall, I did my last run on the Wednesday before a Sunday 1/2 and think it was the perfect plan. I had very fresh legs and felt perfect in every way. What did you do for the 10 miler? You killed on tht one, so I would follow a similar plan. You are not thinking of running the 1/2 in brand new shoes, are you? I'd be afraid of running that far in new kicks, but it takes me a while to break in shoes.
I'll usually do a couple of flat miles on the Thursday or Friday before a Sunday race.
My last run before the Thursday 10 was on Monday, and it was very easy. I am going to run today and tomorrow on the new shoes, but as of now I am planning to run the 1/2 in a pair I have about 250 miles on. Thanks all for your thoughts.2Young2BBald said:
I'd tend to agree with him, but I also don't tend to taper much at all for half marathons. The day after an "off day" is always rough for me, so I'd probably rest on Friday and then do a couple of easy miles on Saturday, just like the guy said. At the end of the day, though, you need to find out what works for you. Everybody is different. But like tri-man said, do make sure that you focus on hydration and getting good rest. This will have a lot bigger impact on your race than your decision about whether or not you should run today.2Young, in response to your question, no, I don't change shoes for the winter. Honestly, I tend to do the majority of my winter running (except for my weekly long run) indoors on the treadmill. When I do venture out for those long runs in the snow, I've got a pair of YakTrax that I strap onto the bottom of my regular running shoes. They work pretty nice. I know some other people who actually insert screws into the bottom of their shoes. Again, whatever works for you.Darrinll40 said:
That is good news. You will be back up to speed in no time. Steve and I did a brisk ~8 miles this morning in ~1:11. I decided that I am going to run a couple of easy miles on Thursday evening after my final exam. That will give me over 2 full days of rest, the same amount I had for the 10 mile race.Very brisk in my book! Only the fastest pace except for races this year.
Good run Righetti, having fun during a run makes it all good. DO you remember how many runners were in the race? Next Sunday there will be 2500 in Jacksonville all starting at the same time. It might be minutes before I see the start line.Righetti said:
Those are the wheels on my tri-bike = I'll plan on training on the Bontrager Classics (wheels that came w/ the bike) and will use my Xr-1's for a couple of training rides and the MS150I'd highly reccomend getting a set of xero xr-1s for road riding. Save those areo wheels for tri events.I'm certain I won't have a base at all. I'm hoping to run the Austin Marathon on 2/17 = I'll only have 4 to actually train. If Bellvue is in the first 5 miles, you probably have a good chance of dropping meUr gonna have a hell of a time getting a base for the ms150 without one. Right now I'm just doing spin classes 2x a week for an hour a pop plus some weights (Ilift). I'll tack on an outside ride on the weekend when I can. As soon as january hits it's 2xspin weekdays tue/thur and trainer m/w for an hour plus long rides on weekends.
If I'm not doing 100 effective miles/week in january I'll never make it. By Feb it needs to be 150. March step up the hills.
It's not practical for me to ride outside during the day with DST in effect.
I'd hate to drop you before bellvue
You get your bike in yet?
Check your calendar for April 6 next year. Aledo Ride For Heroes. That's a phenomenal tuneup for the MS hills. Hardest ride I do all year. Never really done it to my satisfaction. This is going to be the year though. Knee is responding very well now and I think I can really amp up the training when the time comes.
I like to warm my muscles up with a very slow mile prior to longer races (half or longer), and a half mile slow followed by a half mile at pace for shorter events (10k or shorter).
Yaktrax look pretty sweet! When we lived in WI, I always had a pair of trail shoes as most of my running was on trails (La Crosse), and always used them if I was running on snow. Just make sure that if you get trail shoes, they are the same type of shoe, as your normal running shoes are. Not to hi-jack, but where you staying in Door County :jealous: ? (I'll also second the FIB's statement, and also say sorry to Tri-Man).I'd tend to agree with him, but I also don't tend to taper much at all for half marathons. The day after an "off day" is always rough for me, so I'd probably rest on Friday and then do a couple of easy miles on Saturday, just like the guy said. At the end of the day, though, you need to find out what works for you. Everybody is different. But like tri-man said, do make sure that you focus on hydration and getting good rest. This will have a lot bigger impact on your race than your decision about whether or not you should run today.2Young, in response to your question, no, I don't change shoes for the winter. Honestly, I tend to do the majority of my winter running (except for my weekly long run) indoors on the treadmill. When I do venture out for those long runs in the snow, I've got a pair of YakTrax that I strap onto the bottom of my regular running shoes. They work pretty nice. I know some other people who actually insert screws into the bottom of their shoes. Again, whatever works for you.
Myself, headed up to Door County (the site of next year's Fall 50 get-together) last night with the wife for some much-needed R&R. Got up early this morning and hit their little YMCA for a 10-miler on the good-ol' treadmill. They had their machines set for a 30-minute time limit, so I would run the 30 minutes, stop and grab a quick drink from my water bottle, and start up again. Fortunately nobody was waiting to use the machines, but all the FIBs (sorry, tri-man) who were their for their morning walk kept looking at me like I was some kind of lunatic. Anyway, just before I finished, this total hottie runner chick comes and starts running on the treadmill next to me. VERY nice looking, but sorry, no pics. A nice ending to a very satisfying workout. Clocked 1:19 for the 10 miles for an average pace of 7:54. Off now to breakfast and a well-deserved day of doing absolutely nothing.
Darrin, good luck tomorrow, and happy running to the rest of you, too!
Great milestone Darrin!! With your Garmin, this will be easier to keep track offI put in 9 miles today, but the garmin distance disagreed with the mapmyrun distance. MMR had it at 9.08 and it measured 8.91 on the garmin, but I am going to go with the garmin distance.
miles tomorrow, the 5 or 6 on Monday thru Wednesday.
ETA: I just looked at my run log and I passed 1000 miles 2/3's of the way through today's run.
Great to hear another successful race. I never understand why people would want to line up in the wrong areas. With chip timing, there should be absolutely no hurry to get to the starting line (the finish line is a different story all together!).Righetti said:
You'll need a second campy freehub.Those are the wheels on my tri-bike = I'll plan on training on the Bontrager Classics (wheels that came w/ the bike) and will use my Xr-1's for a couple of training rides and the MS150I'd highly reccomend getting a set of xero xr-1s for road riding. Save those areo wheels for tri events.I'm certain I won't have a base at all. I'm hoping to run the Austin Marathon on 2/17 = I'll only have 4 to actually train. If Bellvue is in the first 5 miles, you probably have a good chance of dropping meUr gonna have a hell of a time getting a base for the ms150 without one. Right now I'm just doing spin classes 2x a week for an hour a pop plus some weights (Ilift). I'll tack on an outside ride on the weekend when I can. As soon as january hits it's 2xspin weekdays tue/thur and trainer m/w for an hour plus long rides on weekends.
If I'm not doing 100 effective miles/week in january I'll never make it. By Feb it needs to be 150. March step up the hills.
It's not practical for me to ride outside during the day with DST in effect.
I'd hate to drop you before bellvue
You get your bike in yet?
Check your calendar for April 6 next year. Aledo Ride For Heroes. That's a phenomenal tuneup for the MS hills. Hardest ride I do all year. Never really done it to my satisfaction. This is going to be the year though. Knee is responding very well now and I think I can really amp up the training when the time comes.edited to add, the new bike is in, and she's perfect! It looks like it was ridden for less than 25 miles. The wheels are quite heavy, but the ride is very smooth. I'm riding her to work Mondays and Fridays (16 miles round trip), but don't expect many long rides prior to 2/17.
Sounds like this FB from Illinois will have to make some trips up to cheesehead country next season and kick some more Wisconsin butt in a few races.
Not exactly sure what this means but looking at bikeforums, some have suggested there's a good chance that one doesn't need to replace these free-hub things and can use what they call a "Frankenstein setup" = mixing components?You'll need a second campy freehub.Those are the wheels on my tri-bike = I'll plan on training on the Bontrager Classics (wheels that came w/ the bike) and will use my Xr-1's for a couple of training rides and the MS150I'd highly reccomend getting a set of xero xr-1s for road riding. Save those areo wheels for tri events.I'm certain I won't have a base at all. I'm hoping to run the Austin Marathon on 2/17 = I'll only have 4 to actually train. If Bellvue is in the first 5 miles, you probably have a good chance of dropping meUr gonna have a hell of a time getting a base for the ms150 without one. Right now I'm just doing spin classes 2x a week for an hour a pop plus some weights (Ilift). I'll tack on an outside ride on the weekend when I can. As soon as january hits it's 2xspin weekdays tue/thur and trainer m/w for an hour plus long rides on weekends.
If I'm not doing 100 effective miles/week in january I'll never make it. By Feb it needs to be 150. March step up the hills.
It's not practical for me to ride outside during the day with DST in effect.
I'd hate to drop you before bellvue
You get your bike in yet?
Check your calendar for April 6 next year. Aledo Ride For Heroes. That's a phenomenal tuneup for the MS hills. Hardest ride I do all year. Never really done it to my satisfaction. This is going to be the year though. Knee is responding very well now and I think I can really amp up the training when the time comes.. Hopefully my run training will give me some endurance for the bike, and I can strength train enough w/o hurting myself for some power. I'll give it my all, but don't know how strong I'll be able to get in those four weeks.
edited to add, the new bike is in, and she's perfect! It looks like it was ridden for less than 25 miles. The wheels are quite heavy, but the ride is very smooth. I'm riding her to work Mondays and Fridays (16 miles round trip), but don't expect many long rides prior to 2/17.
You might have to come down to TX to kick this cheesehead's butt! I will be in WI next August though
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Don't do this. HTHhttp://cgi.ebay.com/Mavic-Campagnolo-10-Sp...1QQcmdZViewItemNot exactly sure what this means but looking at bikeforums, some have suggested there's a good chance that one doesn't need to replace these free-hub things and can use what they call a "Frankenstein setup" = mixing components?
nice! i just had my wife pick up a pair of these for me for Christmasgood to know someone else has used them
Bring it on! Kicking Furley's butt is one thing (sorry, Furley), but you've got your work cut out for you if you want to kick mine!
Sounds like this FB from Illinois will have to make some trips up to cheesehead country next season and kick some more Wisconsin butt in a few races.
i actually have had the honor of being toasted by 2 FBGs. i'm looking to up that number this summerBring it on! Kicking Furley's butt is one thing (sorry, Furley), but you've got your work cut out for you if you want to kick mine!
Scandinavian Lodge in Sister Bay. Had breakfast at Al Johnson's and then a nice, expensive dinner at Mission Grille. We usually try to get up there once a year during the off-season; it's a lot less hectic that way.
Summers are way too busy! Sister Bay is one of our favorite areas, though we haven't been to Door County in almost 10 years
Don't let me be the guy to talk you out of it, but I pretty much stopped running altogether when the kids were little. There just weren't enough hours in the day and I thought was more important to spend time together on the weekends. A half is definitely doable since your long days can be worked around naptimes.They'll still be holding marathons when the kids are grown up a bit.
You are already on your way and I think it is doable. I coached little league 3 to 4 days a week, played team kickball and traveled a bunch for work and still got it done this past summer. The best thing I read was not to skip your long run each week and don't try and make up miles if you miss a day, just pick u on the schedule where you left off. Where are you running your 1/2?
If you set a goal of just finishing, the key is to find the time for one long run each week, while building overall mileage by less than 10 percent per week. I have a friend who finished a marathon having had one long run each week, with four 2 mile runs to with it each week. He found one day/time to complete his long run, and squeezed in the two miles during his lunch time at work. We have 2 young ones (age 2 and 6) and I've always found time to workout, as it's too important to me. I typically run/bike/swim between 5:15 and 6:45 am during the week, and have Sunday mornings (after family coffee/paper). During church weeks, I skip the paper. Think of running like you do about brushing your teeth. It's too important to skip, so it needs to be part of your daily routine.
Awesome! I ran my first 1/2 in October and also followed Hal's beginner plan. I pretty much only ran 3 times a week....long run on the weekend, 2-3 mile "faster" run on Tuesday and usually about 4-5 miles on Friday. That was it. I didn't have the time to run 5 times a week. As someone else already stated, the long run is the most important. When I did my long runs on the weekend I went as far as my body felt like going, but I always did at least what was in Hal's plan. I think his plan has the longest run at 10 miles. I did a 12 mile and a 13.1 mile run in the last month of training. I just needed to know that I could physically run the whole 1/2 distance. Good luck!!!
.........Oh Mr. Postman! 
