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Hold my beer.SteelCurtain said:The nice thing is you can't completely blow up a HM race unlike a marathon. Well....thats assuming you have enough experience and endurance for an HM, of which I have both.![]()
Hold my beer.SteelCurtain said:The nice thing is you can't completely blow up a HM race unlike a marathon. Well....thats assuming you have enough experience and endurance for an HM, of which I have both.![]()
I was still getting my gear on when she said that so I started at the back of the pack.
From my very unknowing opinion, seems like more to lose than more to gain.This is the part where you all tell me to just stick with the schedule and do my easy 10 tomorrow and DON’T re-attempt today’s faster-finish 12.
This is where you also tell me to disregard the 12-mile out-and-back route I just mapped out that’s slight uphill going out and downhill coming back...This is the part where you all tell me to just stick with the schedule and do my easy 10 tomorrow and DON’T re-attempt today’s faster-finish 12.
Yeah, objectively, missing three miles at GMP+30 certainly won’t make or break my trainingFrom my very unknowing opinion, seems like more to lose than more to gain.
I say take the day off.This is the part where you all tell me to just stick with the schedule and do my easy 10 tomorrow and DON’T re-attempt today’s faster-finish 12.
The rearview mirror is smaller than the windshield for a reason.This is the part where you all tell me to just stick with the schedule and do my easy 10 tomorrow and DON’T re-attempt today’s faster-finish 12.
This is the part where you all tell me to just stick with the schedule and do my easy 10 tomorrow and DON’T re-attempt today’s faster-finish 12.
Work the plan. Plan the work.This is where you also tell me to disregard the 12-mile out-and-back route I just mapped out that’s slight uphill going out and downhill coming back...
That sounds like a well attended ride.Made the right call dropping from the full century to the metric century today. It's ####### hot. 171 SI. I was feeling it bad around mile 40, really glad I didn't have another 62 (their century is a little long) after that point.
I found I really don't like riding in peloton. The ride (can't call it a race as nobody is keeping time and we get no awards) started at 8 for the full century, 815 for the metric, 830 for everyone else. Or that was the plan anyway. Right after the century riders leave, the announcer tells us we can go if we want.I was still getting my gear on when she said that so I started at the back of the pack.
Worked my way up pretty quickly, before too long I was riding with the century riders. Obviously they were pacing themselves. As a triathlete who doesn't ride with others it's still strange to me to see packs of riders almost touching wheel to wheel, but there they were. I pass one group, I think their leaders decided I'd lead the pack then, and they pick it up to stay right behind me, eventually passing me. So the pack is passing me, one dude I had talked with briefly before the ride asked if I wanted in, so I accepted. Took me about 20 seconds before I remembered to get out of aero if I'm in the pack. There's definitely advantages to the pack, but I'm not real comfortable being that close at 20+mph.
Stop at a rest break, jump in with a different pack. In the back.
Then we go down a hill - everyone must have been riding their breaks which is super annoying. I get the safety issue of crushing it downhill but man that sucked. Just after I get around the 25+ riders, down a hill, I look to the right, there's a young lady next to me, distracted me from a turn (those going 52 go straight, metric and real century riders turn). So I miss the turn, I could have slammed on my brakes and tried to turn but I probably would have wiped out and taken her with me. So we turn around, eventually get back in the pack, now it's uphill steep. I change gears and drop my chain![]()
It isn't hard to get the chain back on, but starting uphill, getting your feet into the pedals took a few attempts. But we're rolling. Get to the top, an intersection, one pack is stopped. I keep going but then I start to think "I'm at mile 32 now, I should turn soon, was the pack at the turn?" Check the map, nope. Keep going. Now there's probably 30 riders near me, that's fine.
Turn off onto the metric route, now I'm all alone.![]()
It's getting hot but mostly uneventful the rest of the way. It's windy, going east is really tough (that's all we get from Florence so can't complain).
In the last ten miles, i pass quite a few riders who pulled off the road just to get out of the sun, all I'm thinking is how much I want this to be over.
Did I mention it was hot? It's the "all you can eat" ride, but all we could eat after being out there in the heat was fruit, water and I'll admit, mountain dew after a ride or marathon like that is heavenly. I rarely touch soda but I'll gladly make an exception after these events.
Hopefully it cools down for the next race in two weeks.
Do the run. You need to get it out of your crawl and you know you are going to crush that run tomorrow.This is where you also tell me to disregard the 12-mile out-and-back route I just mapped out that’s slight uphill going out and downhill coming back...
I suppose what I’d do is decide during the run. If I felt frisky, sure, increase the pace and maybe add a few miles. If not, so be it.Do the run. You need to get it out of your crawl and you know you are going to crush that run tomorrow.
Don’t listen to these pansies.
The next couple of months my plan is to take your approach and just take each run by feel. This whole summer has been trying to run slow and just try and build a base.I suppose what I’d do is decide during the run. If I felt frisky, sure, increase the pace and maybe add a few miles. If not, so be it.
I’ve improved the ratio to 91:32/3:28:59, but that’s still a 2.29 ratio, which is low. Let’s see how the next marathon cycle goes a year from now, but I don’t that this will improve much.Comparing 5K to 26.2 is iffy stuff for most people. I’d take it with a grain of salt.
This reminded me of @SteveC702 and his formula comparing 13.1:26.2. I can’t find the OP, but here’s a quote with the gist of it.
How has some of the old timer’s changed in here since that post? I’m still at 1:27/3:09
https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/topic/724983-ran-a-10k-official-thread/?do=findComment&comment=18480384
Same here, that was awesome. Good luck today.Just finished watching Kipchogee break the world record in Berlin. The guy is an absolute machine.
My wife has reached that stage of marathon training. Its hilarious to me because I am clearly a bad person.I can't find tracking for the Duchess but you can download the app for RocknRoll Philly and track pbm.
Really not feeling it this morning but need to get my long done. Time to grind. I'll be thinking of them while out there.
Yeah, had to do it...Do the run. You need to get it out of your crawl and you know you are going to crush that run tomorrow.
Don’t listen to these pansies.
Yeah, had to do it...![]()
Miles 1-6 (goal 7:45-8): 8:20, 7:54, 7:55, 7:47, 7:37, 7:30 (average 7:51)
Miles 7-12 (goal 7:15-7:30): 7:21, 7:06, 7:03, 6:58, 6:54, 6:55 (average 7:03)
Now I can watch football with a clear head![]()
And probably my best long run yet. Longest distance ever, some faster miles toward the end (downhill, but not with much extra effort overall), and right now I don't even feel like I ran. Feel great instead of totally wiped like usual. Hydrated last night, Gatorade this morning, ate well last 2 days, and slightly cooler temps made all the difference I think.gianmarco said:I can't find tracking for the Duchess but you can download the app for RocknRoll Philly and track pbm.
Really not feeling it this morning but need to get my long done. Time to grind. I'll be thinking of them while out there.
Now I'm depressed.MAC_32 said:He isnt going to be happy about it and that's saying something
Yeah, you're probably right. :(MAC_32 said:He isnt going to be happy about it and that's saying something
Happens to the best of us. Congrats on the PR!Welp. Humbling experience. Got eaten up on the back part of my half marathon.
I got a small PR, but discouraging run overall. Didn’t run smart and paid for it.
Yeah today sucked, at least I am drunk now. It felt a little too warm the first 3 miles and then around mile 5 I knew I was in trouble. I don’t like half marathons. It was still a fun day though, my best friend growing up came in for the race - he’s not much of a runner. We were tracking him while we were at the bar this morning and he finished right under 3 hours. One day i’ll figure out this distance or wise up and stop running it. Thanks for the support, it was a tough day but I’ll bounce back.Now I'm depressed.
You’ve had such bad luck recently with the longer distances with weather and allergies. The only good thing about disappointing races is it makes the successes sweeter. I know they’ll come. You’re too dedicated, wise and talented for them not too.Yeah today sucked, at least I am drunk now. It felt a little too warm the first 3 miles and then around mile 5 I knew I was in trouble. I don’t like half marathons. It was still a fun day though, my best friend growing up came in for the race - he’s not much of a runner. We were tracking him while we were at the bar this morning and he finished right under 3 hours. One day i’ll figure out this distance or wise up and stop running it. Thanks for the support, it was a tough day but I’ll bounce back.
You know you’re capable of so much more. No reason to stop running it, just figure it out and dominate it.Yeah today sucked, at least I am drunk now. It felt a little too warm the first 3 miles and then around mile 5 I knew I was in trouble. I don’t like half marathons. It was still a fun day though, my best friend growing up came in for the race - he’s not much of a runner. We were tracking him while we were at the bar this morning and he finished right under 3 hours. One day i’ll figure out this distance or wise up and stop running it. Thanks for the support, it was a tough day but I’ll bounce back.
So your saying it was a PR?Welp. Humbling experience. Got eaten up on the back part of my half marathon.
I got a small PR, but discouraging run overall. Didn’t run smart and paid for it.
So your saying your drunk?Yeah today sucked, at least I am drunk now. It felt a little too warm the first 3 miles and then around mile 5 I knew I was in trouble. I don’t like half marathons. It was still a fun day though, my best friend growing up came in for the race - he’s not much of a runner. We were tracking him while we were at the bar this morning and he finished right under 3 hours. One day i’ll figure out this distance or wise up and stop running it. Thanks for the support, it was a tough day but I’ll bounce back.
Kinda far away, but being my first long distance race I feel like I need an excessive amount of training. Having all that time to log a lot of miles will be good for my confidence, and will get me on my way to goal #2 of running a full marathon at some point. Get yourself on Strava so we can follow along the progress!Welp, my first four weeks of training are in the books. Logged 69 miles (nice) and have seen quite a bit of improvement in my speed. The first week, 10 minute mile pace was all I could handle - now, my super easy recovery pace is about 9:30 with my quicker runs being under 8:00. Hope is to keep improving on that front and to go for 100+ miles over the next four weeks.
Also, tonight I officially registered for the Garmin half marathon - my race date is April 13, 2019.Kinda far away, but being my first long distance race I feel like I need an excessive amount of training. Having all that time to log a lot of miles will be good for my confidence, and will get me on my way to goal #2 of running a full marathon at some point.
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x. I was seeing how much time I had banked to be careful with my pacing when things got tough.
x was not happening and the PR was toast too. Once I got things settled, I started running again but probably in the 7:15 range.I'll definitely be doing Berlin at some point, since it's one of the World Marathon Majors. I've done the three here in the U.S. (Boston, Chicago, New York), so next it's London, Berlin, and Toyko.Know we have plenty of Chicago marathon experience in here, how about Berlin? Seeing the Berlin coverage has me thinking that someday I’ll have make the trip to tour the city by foot.
Closer to home though, I’ll be applying for Chicago for next year methinks. Lottery for next year opens after the race I think.
Well. I don't know if I completely blew it up yesterday. That is for all of you to decide. However, if I didn't blow it up, I got much closer than I would have liked to blowing up that race.I'm going to try to go out at a 6:52 pace (1:30 HM) and see how it goes.
The nice thing is you can't completely blow up a HM race unlike a marathon. Well....thats assuming you have enough experience and endurance for an HM, of which I have both.![]()
I'm in the same boat. However, doing the lottery isn't likely going to come through.I'll definitely be doing Berlin at some point, since it's one of the World Marathon Majors. I've done the three here in the U.S. (Boston, Chicago, New York), so next it's London, Berlin, and Toyko.
If you're serious about doing these, you need to join the Seven Continents Club through Marathon Tours. It costs a couple hundred bucks (one time) to join the club, and it'll take a couple of years, but they'll get you in.I'm in the same boat. However, doing the lottery isn't likely going to come through.
I'm thinking I'll back off on the running after 2019 Boston. I want to change it up and do some more lifting and less running. Just need a change of pace.
It's a fantastic sign that you PRed while having to take a walking break! I hope you find time to squeeze in another sub 90 attempt this fall.FINAL – 1:31:36 (5 second PR)
Know we have plenty of Chicago marathon experience in here, how about Berlin? Seeing the Berlin coverage has me thinking that someday I’ll have make the trip to tour the city by foot.
Closer to home though, I’ll be applying for Chicago for next year methinks. Lottery for next year opens after the race I think.
I'll run Chicago next year too! I'd love to run Berlin or London someday but who knows if that will actually happen.I'm sure you'll be smart about your return. Nice to have you back!Starting to finally feel like myself again. Not just from a running perspective, but mentally as well. I'd noticed in the past that I'd have more of those 'on the tip of my tongue' moments more frequently. But now that I'm putting in more regular (extended) exercise, my mind is coming back. I've been a lot quicker/on point at work, doing quick math in my head, etc. Hard to explain, but I notice it.
I did 5hrs of work this week and feel great. Zero pain in the ankle/achilles still, so that's motivation. I'm resisting the urge to crank up the mileage - I have to take it cautiously. Overuse is what got me in that boat; I don't want to go back.
To be honest, this is a pretty bad-### effort to come back from having to walk and still PR. I know when a race beats me it just beats me and mentally I can't get back there.FINAL – 1:31:36 (5 second PR)
13.16 – 6:58 pace – Average HR 168
Overall 24/383 (top 6.2%)
Age Group 3/29 (top 10.3%)