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Ran a 10k - Official Thread (4 Viewers)

SteelCurtain said:
The nice thing is you can't completely blow up a HM race unlike a marathon.  Well....thats assuming you have enough experience and endurance for an HM, of which I have both.  :D
Hold my beer. :banned:

 
Made the right call dropping from the full century to the metric century today. It's ####### hot. 171 SI. I was feeling it bad around mile 40, really glad I didn't have another 62 (their century is a little long) after that point. 

I found I really don't like riding in peloton. The ride (can't call it a race as nobody is keeping time and we get no awards) started at 8 for the full century, 815 for the metric, 830 for everyone else. Or that was the plan anyway. Right after the century riders leave, the announcer tells us we can go if we want. :shrug: I was still getting my gear on when she said that so I started at the back of the pack. 

Worked my way up pretty quickly, before too long I was riding with the century riders. Obviously they were pacing themselves. As a triathlete who doesn't ride with others it's still strange to me to see packs of riders almost touching wheel to wheel, but there they were. I pass one group, I think their leaders decided I'd lead the pack then, and they pick it up to stay right behind me, eventually passing me. So the pack is passing me, one dude I had talked with briefly before the ride asked if I wanted in, so I accepted. Took me about 20 seconds before I remembered to get out of aero if I'm in the pack. There's definitely advantages to the pack, but I'm not real comfortable being that close at 20+mph. 

Stop at a rest break, jump in with a different pack. In the back.

Then we go down a hill - everyone must have been riding their breaks which is super annoying. I get the safety issue of crushing it downhill but man that sucked. Just after I get around the 25+ riders, down a hill, I look to the right, there's a young lady next to me, distracted me from a turn (those going 52 go straight, metric and real century riders turn). So I miss the turn, I could have slammed on my brakes and tried to turn but I probably would have wiped out and taken her with me. So we turn around, eventually get back in the pack, now it's uphill steep. I change gears and drop my chain :wall:

It isn't hard to get the chain back on, but starting uphill, getting your feet into the pedals took a few attempts. But we're rolling. Get to the top, an intersection, one pack is stopped. I keep going but then I start to think "I'm at mile 32 now, I should turn soon, was the pack at the turn?" Check the map, nope. Keep going. Now there's probably 30 riders near me, that's fine. 

Turn off onto the metric route, now I'm all alone. :thumbup:

It's getting hot but mostly uneventful the rest of the way. It's windy, going east is really tough (that's all we get from Florence so can't complain). 

In the last ten miles, i pass quite a few riders who pulled off the road just to get out of the sun, all I'm thinking is how much I want this to be over. 

Did I mention it was hot? It's the "all you can eat" ride, but all we could eat after being out there in the heat was fruit, water and I'll admit, mountain dew after a ride or marathon like that is heavenly. I rarely touch soda but I'll gladly make an exception after these events. 

Hopefully it cools down for the next race in two weeks.

 
Heading up to Winchester, Va. for FEMA support tomorrow (Florence deployment prep).  Totally spaced out the registration for the Skyway 10k which is the big bridge run I did last year.  It sold out in 2 hours this year. 8,000 freakin slots.  Guess I’ll be looking for something else in March  :kicksrock:

 
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This is the part where you all tell me to just stick with the schedule and do my easy 10 tomorrow and DON’T re-attempt today’s faster-finish 12.

 
This is the part where you all tell me to just stick with the schedule and do my easy 10 tomorrow and DON’T re-attempt today’s faster-finish 12.
This is where you also tell me to disregard the 12-mile out-and-back route I just mapped out that’s slight uphill going out and downhill coming back...

 
Made the right call dropping from the full century to the metric century today. It's ####### hot. 171 SI. I was feeling it bad around mile 40, really glad I didn't have another 62 (their century is a little long) after that point. 

I found I really don't like riding in peloton. The ride (can't call it a race as nobody is keeping time and we get no awards) started at 8 for the full century, 815 for the metric, 830 for everyone else. Or that was the plan anyway. Right after the century riders leave, the announcer tells us we can go if we want. :shrug: I was still getting my gear on when she said that so I started at the back of the pack. 

Worked my way up pretty quickly, before too long I was riding with the century riders. Obviously they were pacing themselves. As a triathlete who doesn't ride with others it's still strange to me to see packs of riders almost touching wheel to wheel, but there they were. I pass one group, I think their leaders decided I'd lead the pack then, and they pick it up to stay right behind me, eventually passing me. So the pack is passing me, one dude I had talked with briefly before the ride asked if I wanted in, so I accepted. Took me about 20 seconds before I remembered to get out of aero if I'm in the pack. There's definitely advantages to the pack, but I'm not real comfortable being that close at 20+mph. 

Stop at a rest break, jump in with a different pack. In the back.

Then we go down a hill - everyone must have been riding their breaks which is super annoying. I get the safety issue of crushing it downhill but man that sucked. Just after I get around the 25+ riders, down a hill, I look to the right, there's a young lady next to me, distracted me from a turn (those going 52 go straight, metric and real century riders turn). So I miss the turn, I could have slammed on my brakes and tried to turn but I probably would have wiped out and taken her with me. So we turn around, eventually get back in the pack, now it's uphill steep. I change gears and drop my chain :wall:

It isn't hard to get the chain back on, but starting uphill, getting your feet into the pedals took a few attempts. But we're rolling. Get to the top, an intersection, one pack is stopped. I keep going but then I start to think "I'm at mile 32 now, I should turn soon, was the pack at the turn?" Check the map, nope. Keep going. Now there's probably 30 riders near me, that's fine. 

Turn off onto the metric route, now I'm all alone. :thumbup:

It's getting hot but mostly uneventful the rest of the way. It's windy, going east is really tough (that's all we get from Florence so can't complain). 

In the last ten miles, i pass quite a few riders who pulled off the road just to get out of the sun, all I'm thinking is how much I want this to be over. 

Did I mention it was hot? It's the "all you can eat" ride, but all we could eat after being out there in the heat was fruit, water and I'll admit, mountain dew after a ride or marathon like that is heavenly. I rarely touch soda but I'll gladly make an exception after these events. 

Hopefully it cools down for the next race in two weeks.
That sounds like a well attended ride. 

I think every Tri guy has general issues riding inline with other riders. It’s taken me an entire season to feel comfortable with my local roadies.

 
This is where you also tell me to disregard the 12-mile out-and-back route I just mapped out that’s slight uphill going out and downhill coming back...
Do the run. You need to get it out of your crawl and you know you are going to crush that run tomorrow.

Don’t listen to these pansies.

 
Do the run. You need to get it out of your crawl and you know you are going to crush that run tomorrow.

Don’t listen to these pansies.
I suppose what I’d do is decide during the run. If I felt frisky, sure, increase the pace and maybe add a few miles. If not, so be it.

 
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I suppose what I’d do is decide during the run. If I felt frisky, sure, increase the pace and maybe add a few miles. If not, so be it.
The next couple of months my plan is to take your approach and just take each run by feel. This whole summer has been trying to run slow and just try and build a base.

I have basically October and November just to run - as the weather gets cooler I just want to see what each day brings. Then the marathon plan starts the last week of November.

 
Comparing 5K to 26.2 is iffy stuff for most people. I’d take it with a grain of salt. 

This reminded me of @SteveC702 and his formula comparing 13.1:26.2.  I can’t find the OP, but here’s a quote with the gist of it.  

How has some of the old timer’s changed in here since that post?  I’m still at 1:27/3:09  

https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/topic/724983-ran-a-10k-official-thread/?do=findComment&comment=18480384 
I’ve improved the ratio to 91:32/3:28:59, but that’s still a 2.29 ratio, which is low.  Let’s see how the next marathon cycle goes  a year from now, but I don’t that this will improve much.

 
I can't find tracking for the Duchess but you can download the app for RocknRoll Philly and track pbm.

Really not feeling it this morning but need to get my long done. Time to grind. I'll be thinking of them while out there.

 
I can't find tracking for the Duchess but you can download the app for RocknRoll Philly and track pbm.

Really not feeling it this morning but need to get my long done. Time to grind. I'll be thinking of them while out there.
My wife has reached that stage of marathon training. Its hilarious to me because I am clearly a bad person. 

 
Good luck today fellas!  Will be pulling for you fast bastards.

Thinking im going to do my first post-race shakeout run today...maybe 20-30 minutes just to loosen the legs a bit.  Mostly feeing pretty good one week post-race.  My right big toe is numb, I took a digger at mile 15 onto my left knee and that’s still pretty tender, and the quads are still a bit dead but i can at least stand from a sitting position without the assistance of my arms/hands now! 

 
Do the run. You need to get it out of your crawl and you know you are going to crush that run tomorrow.

Don’t listen to these pansies.
Yeah, had to do it... :shrug:

Miles 1-6 (goal 7:45-8):  8:20, 7:54, 7:55, 7:47, 7:37, 7:30 (average 7:51)

Miles 7-12 (goal 7:15-7:30):  7:21, 7:06, 7:03, 6:58, 6:54, 6:55 (average 7:03)

Now I can watch football with a clear head :)

 
gianmarco said:
I can't find tracking for the Duchess but you can download the app for RocknRoll Philly and track pbm.

Really not feeling it this morning but need to get my long done. Time to grind. I'll be thinking of them while out there.
And probably my best long run yet. Longest distance ever, some faster miles toward the end (downhill, but not with much extra effort overall), and right now I don't even feel like I ran.  Feel great instead of totally wiped like usual. Hydrated last night, Gatorade this morning, ate well last 2 days, and slightly cooler temps made all the difference I think.

This sport is so ####### weird.

 
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Welp.  Humbling experience.  Got eaten up on the back part of my half marathon.  

I got a small PR, but discouraging run overall.  Didn’t run smart and paid for it.

 
Now I'm depressed.
Yeah today sucked, at least I am drunk now. It felt a little too warm the first 3 miles and then around mile 5 I knew I was in trouble. I don’t like half marathons. It was still a fun day though, my best friend growing up came in for the race - he’s not much of a runner. We were tracking him while we were at the bar this morning and he finished right under 3 hours.  One day i’ll figure out this distance or wise up and stop running it. Thanks for the support, it was a tough day but I’ll bounce back. 

 
Yeah today sucked, at least I am drunk now. It felt a little too warm the first 3 miles and then around mile 5 I knew I was in trouble. I don’t like half marathons. It was still a fun day though, my best friend growing up came in for the race - he’s not much of a runner. We were tracking him while we were at the bar this morning and he finished right under 3 hours.  One day i’ll figure out this distance or wise up and stop running it. Thanks for the support, it was a tough day but I’ll bounce back. 
You’ve had such bad luck recently with the longer distances with weather and allergies. The only good thing about disappointing races is it makes the successes sweeter. I know they’ll come.  You’re too dedicated, wise and talented for them not too.

 
Yeah today sucked, at least I am drunk now. It felt a little too warm the first 3 miles and then around mile 5 I knew I was in trouble. I don’t like half marathons. It was still a fun day though, my best friend growing up came in for the race - he’s not much of a runner. We were tracking him while we were at the bar this morning and he finished right under 3 hours.  One day i’ll figure out this distance or wise up and stop running it. Thanks for the support, it was a tough day but I’ll bounce back. 
You know you’re capable of so much more. No reason to stop running it, just figure it out and dominate it. 

 
Yeah today sucked, at least I am drunk now. It felt a little too warm the first 3 miles and then around mile 5 I knew I was in trouble. I don’t like half marathons. It was still a fun day though, my best friend growing up came in for the race - he’s not much of a runner. We were tracking him while we were at the bar this morning and he finished right under 3 hours.  One day i’ll figure out this distance or wise up and stop running it. Thanks for the support, it was a tough day but I’ll bounce back. 
So your saying your drunk?

 
PR or drunk sounds like a pretty decent day to me. PR while drunk would be more impressive, though. 

Looking forward to hearing about your races, fellas. 

 
Coming off of last week's nearly 12 hours and 9K' of vert my heel pain was acting up a bit.  I knew I needed to get in a solid weekend three weeks out from Grindstone, so M-F I took it easy with three runs with the pup and two days off.  Then yesterday I hit one of the relatively flatter routes I regularly run (1300' over 10 miles) for a two hour fasted effort, with a decent amount of easy running vs hiking (<12:00 pace overall).  Today I wanted the steepest, gnarliest trail I could so I went to explore a section of trail I haven't been on before, one that a friend of mine was doing repeats on before heading to Italy for a giant race in the Dolomites.  And damn if it didn't fit the bill and kick my ###. 

The heart of the climb was 1,159' over .88 miles, a 25% grade.  There are sections that are between 35% and 45%, that even with the poles were tough to get up, and nearly impossible to get down.  We haven't had rain in a few months now so most of the trail is an inch or two of dusty top soil covered with dried eucalyptus leaves.  I felt like I could have used skis in some parts coming back down, and while I was awfully clumsy and slow I managed to stay on my feet.  The first time up I continued on the fire road to the nearby peak, headed back down to the start to get some more water, and then I repeated the singletrack section again.  In the end it was 11 miles with over 4,000' of gain.  Lots of slow going on both the ups and the downs, but just what I was looking for.

I'd like to get in one more focused long, runnable downhill effort this week for some quad toughening, and then it's pretty much taper time.

 
Welp, my first four weeks of training are in the books. Logged 69 miles (nice) and have seen quite a bit of improvement in my speed. The first week, 10 minute mile pace was all I could handle - now, my super easy recovery pace is about 9:30 with my quicker runs being under 8:00. Hope is to keep improving on that front and to go for 100+ miles over the next four weeks. 

Also, tonight I officially registered for the Garmin half marathon - my race date is April 13, 2019.  :yes:  Kinda far away, but being my first long distance race I feel like I need an excessive amount of training. Having all that time to log a lot of miles will be good for my confidence, and will get me on my way to goal #2 of running a full marathon at some point.  :thumbup:

 
Welp, my first four weeks of training are in the books. Logged 69 miles (nice) and have seen quite a bit of improvement in my speed. The first week, 10 minute mile pace was all I could handle - now, my super easy recovery pace is about 9:30 with my quicker runs being under 8:00. Hope is to keep improving on that front and to go for 100+ miles over the next four weeks. 

Also, tonight I officially registered for the Garmin half marathon - my race date is April 13, 2019.  :yes:  Kinda far away, but being my first long distance race I feel like I need an excessive amount of training. Having all that time to log a lot of miles will be good for my confidence, and will get me on my way to goal #2 of running a full marathon at some point.  :thumbup:
Get yourself on Strava so we can follow along the progress!

 
Know we have plenty of Chicago marathon experience in here, how about Berlin?  Seeing the Berlin coverage has me thinking that someday I’ll have make the trip to tour the city by foot.

Closer to home though, I’ll be applying for Chicago for next year methinks. Lottery for next year opens after the race I think. 

 
Starting to finally feel like myself again.  Not just from a running perspective, but mentally as well.  I'd noticed in the past that I'd have more of those 'on the tip of my tongue' moments more frequently.  But now that I'm putting in more regular (extended) exercise, my mind is coming back.  I've been a lot quicker/on point at work, doing quick math in my head, etc.  Hard to explain, but I notice it.

I did 5hrs of work this week and feel great.  Zero pain in the ankle/achilles still, so that's motivation.  I'm resisting the urge to crank up the mileage - I have to take it cautiously.  Overuse is what got me in that boat; I don't want to go back.

Yesterday's 20 was the longest I've ever biked - I don't know how you guys ride so damn fast.  I averaged 16mph and had to work for it (I was pretty tired at the end).  Hat's off to you guys that are routinely averaging 20mph.  

 
Dutchess Half Marathon Race Report

After running lots and lots of slow miles, the last few weeks have been stressful from work and life.  I had been sleeping horribly and I questioned out this race would really go.  My big reach goal was to run 1:29:59.  Goal B was to PR (1:31:41).  Goal C was to PR this course (1:33:12).

Temps at the start were 64 degrees and 100% humidity.  Fog was actually there at the start but burned off by the half way mark.

Mile – pace / Average Heart rate

Mile 1 – 6:38 / 159

My plan was to try to run 6:52 and see how it went.  I got out early and felt decent so I pushed a bit and decided to bank a little time.

Mile 2 – 6:40 / 169

I was pushing but felt like the legs had it in them.  I wanted to see how this felt as I continued.

Mile 3 – 6:40 / 166

At this point, I started to do the math about what I needed to do to run the 1:29:xx.  I was seeing how much time I had banked to be careful with my pacing when things got tough.

Mile 4 – 6:47 / 168

Mile 5 – 6:43 / 169

Mile 6 – 6:55 / 168

These three miles went from feeling good to starting to push.  There was a stretch where there were no trees so the heat was punishing along here.  I was regularly pouring water on my head.  This is a smaller race.  I was hanging in about 18th place at this point.  Not really passing anyone and no one passing me. 

One thing that happened, at a water station, which were manned by high school kids (I think local cross country teams).  A boy was crossing and wasn’t looking.  Went right in my way.  I collided a bit with him and kept going.  I can’t say it really impacted my race, but it was noteworthy. 

Mile 7 – 6:49 / 169

Mile 8 – 6:52 / 170

Mile 9 – 6:55 / 170

Along here, I could feel myself pushing.  Although, I was more and more confident about going sub 1:30.  Things were clicking along quite nicely and I had a nearly 50 second cushion to carry me for the rest of the race.

Mile 10 – 7:26 / 169

This mile started with a ¼ mile steady but not steep uphill.  I wanted to get to the top of the hill at around a 7:00 minute pace.  The hill was harder than I expected and I got to the top at 0.40 miles and I was at 7:15 pace.  A small downhill, I wanted to make up time.  I got to about 0.65 with my pace back to 6:50 for the 2/3 of a mile.  I started to get a serious side stitch.  I tried to run through it but I was having trouble taking full breaths.  I put my arms above my head, tried slower deeper breaths, but nothing worked.  At 0.90 miles, I stopped to walk as I couldn’t continue like this.  Walked for a bit guessing 20-25 seconds and started up again.

Mile 11 – 7:56 / 160

Didn’t go far without realizing this side stitch wasn’t better.  I had to stop and walk again, probably for nearly a minute to help reset my heart rate.  I was upset here.  I knew 1:29:xx was not happening and the PR was toast too.  Once I got things settled, I started running again but probably in the 7:15 range.

Mile 12 – 7:11 / 163

I was pushing but not going full blast.  I felt like if I went any faster the side stitch would erupt again.  I felt like I was jogging fast but not full blast running.

Mile 13 – 7:09 / 165

I did the math at mile 13 and knew I had an outside shot at a PR.  So I started to pick it up some, but didn’t want to blow up the side stitch.  By the time I got to 12.5 miles, I started to pick up the pace.  I wanted to see if I could PR.

0.16 Miles – 5:48 / 175

I emptied the tank as I knew I was close to the PR.  Pushing it hard through the chute, it was tough to know I finished 3rd in my AG.  With the top two less than 30 seconds ahead of me. 

FINAL – 1:31:36 (5 second PR)

13.16 – 6:58 pace – Average HR 168

Overall 24/383 (top 6.2%)

Age Group 3/29 (top 10.3%)

 
Know we have plenty of Chicago marathon experience in here, how about Berlin?  Seeing the Berlin coverage has me thinking that someday I’ll have make the trip to tour the city by foot.

Closer to home though, I’ll be applying for Chicago for next year methinks. Lottery for next year opens after the race I think. 
I'll definitely be doing Berlin at some point, since it's one of the World Marathon Majors.  I've done the three here in the U.S. (Boston, Chicago, New York), so next it's London, Berlin, and Toyko.

 
I'm going to try to go out at a 6:52 pace (1:30 HM) and see how it goes. 

The nice thing is you can't completely blow up a HM race unlike a marathon.  Well....thats assuming you have enough experience and endurance for an HM, of which I have both.  :D
Well.  I don't know if I completely blew it up yesterday.  That is for all of you to decide.  However, if I didn't blow it up, I got much closer than I would have liked to blowing up that race. 

Poor execution of race strategy will get you every single time.  I decided to really go for broke and it almost bit me badly.

 
I'll definitely be doing Berlin at some point, since it's one of the World Marathon Majors.  I've done the three here in the U.S. (Boston, Chicago, New York), so next it's London, Berlin, and Toyko.
I'm in the same boat.  However, doing the lottery isn't likely going to come through. 

I'm thinking I'll back off on the running after 2019 Boston.  I want to change it up and do some more lifting and less running.  Just need a change of pace.

 
I'm in the same boat.  However, doing the lottery isn't likely going to come through. 

I'm thinking I'll back off on the running after 2019 Boston.  I want to change it up and do some more lifting and less running.  Just need a change of pace.
If you're serious about doing these, you need to join the Seven Continents Club through Marathon Tours.  It costs a couple hundred bucks (one time) to join the club, and it'll take a couple of years, but they'll get you in.

I was just thinking on my run this morning that I'm not sure what I want to do after Boston next year.  Definitely going to keep running, but no clue what or where...

 
FINAL – 1:31:36 (5 second PR)
It's a fantastic sign that you PRed while having to take a walking break!  I hope you find time to squeeze in another sub 90 attempt this fall.

Know we have plenty of Chicago marathon experience in here, how about Berlin?  Seeing the Berlin coverage has me thinking that someday I’ll have make the trip to tour the city by foot.

Closer to home though, I’ll be applying for Chicago for next year methinks. Lottery for next year opens after the race I think. 
:hifive:   I'll run Chicago next year too!  I'd love to run Berlin or London someday but who knows if that will actually happen.

Starting to finally feel like myself again.  Not just from a running perspective, but mentally as well.  I'd noticed in the past that I'd have more of those 'on the tip of my tongue' moments more frequently.  But now that I'm putting in more regular (extended) exercise, my mind is coming back.  I've been a lot quicker/on point at work, doing quick math in my head, etc.  Hard to explain, but I notice it.

I did 5hrs of work this week and feel great.  Zero pain in the ankle/achilles still, so that's motivation.  I'm resisting the urge to crank up the mileage - I have to take it cautiously.  Overuse is what got me in that boat; I don't want to go back.
I'm sure you'll be smart about your return.  Nice to have you back!

 
FINAL – 1:31:36 (5 second PR)

13.16 – 6:58 pace – Average HR 168

Overall 24/383 (top 6.2%)

Age Group 3/29 (top 10.3%)
To be honest, this is a pretty bad-### effort to come back from having to walk and still PR. I know when a race beats me it just beats me and mentally I can't get back there.

You did get back in there mentally. Wow.  :headbang:

 

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