Ran a 10k - Official Thread (12 Viewers)

[gianmarco]

You enjoy feeling like your ####### chest is going to explode and you're going to vomit all over yourself?

All day.  And when it ends, it's glorious.  Knowing that there's only a little more to go makes it manageable. 

The less painful but significantly longer grind is something I care essentially none about.  No thank you.  I'm one of those that would "run" a marathon instead of "race" a marathon.

 

[gruecd]

All day.  And when it ends, it's glorious.  Knowing that there's only a little more to go makes it manageable. 

The less painful but significantly longer grind is something I care essentially none about.  No thank you.  I'm one of those that would "run" a marathon instead of "race" a marathon.

 Gimme the grind all day, baby....

 

[mr. furley]

Just finished watching Kipchogee break the world record in Berlin.  The guy is an absolute machine.

4:38 pace

the robots are here already and they're taking over the world

 

[Juxtatarot]

Confidence is a bit shaken between the result here and at Broad Street, but I think I am on the right path.

I think you are too.  I also think you should consider running another half either the weekend of October 13 or October 20 if there is one nearby and the forecast is cool.   Although I know you like to stick to your schedule.

 

[SFBayDuck]

Rock N Roll Philly Race Report

Frustrating day but I guess that’s how racing works. Post race I was drinking with one of my running mentors and he said that only on two occasions in his running career has the race result equated to the work that went into it.  I thought that was depressing, but he is 48 and he wishes he was healthy enough to be racing. 

Confidence is a bit shaken between the result here and at Broad Street, but I think I am on the right path.  I am stubborn.

That's interesting, but considering the incredible amount of variables that go into both training and race day performance, probably makes sense.  Even professionals with all of the latest coaching theory and technology get it wrong on race day sometimes.

I like your last sentence better.

 

[SFBayDuck]

 Gimme the grind all day, baby....

 

[pbm107]

I think you are too.  I also think you should consider running another half either the weekend of October 13 or October 20 if there is one nearby and the forecast is cool.   Although I know you like to stick to your schedule.

Thanks, I will think about a half.  Unfortunately I won’t be running in my favorite 10K this year prior to my marathon since it falls the week before.  I was considering this local race.

That's interesting, but considering the incredible amount of variables that go into both training and race day performance, probably makes sense.  Even professionals with all of the latest coaching theory and technology get it wrong on race day sometimes.

Thinking about his statement a bit more I think it is also a result of his running style.  He was more of a home run hitter and much more aggressive racer than I am.

 

[SayWhat?]

Jeebus, you guys crushing half marathons have some grit.  To continue to sear your lungs with 6:20-7:00 miles when your mind and body desire anything but that is impressive.  Keep thinking I’d like to try to run a “fast” (for me) 5K, 10K, or HM and then I remember how badly it hurts and I move on to more enjoyable thoughts. 

Nice job kicking ### last weekend!  ????

 

[Juxtatarot]

That's interesting, but considering the incredible amount of variables that go into both training and race day performance, probably makes sense. 

I was thinking about that too.  I'm lucky enough that I can only think of 3 "A" races that didn't match up:  Boston '13, Philly '16 and Kenosha '17.  I've certainly had other disappointing races but I blame myself for not preparing better.

Edit:  I just realized that I traveled and slept in a hotel for each of those.  Hmmm....

 

[SFBayDuck]

I was thinking about that too.  I'm lucky enough that I can only think of 3 "A" races that didn't match up:  Boston '13, Philly '16 and Kenosha '17.  I've certainly had other disappointing races but I blame myself for not preparing better.

Edit:  I just realized that I traveled and slept in a hotel for each of those.  Hmmm....

Even more variables.....and I say this as I get ready to fly across the country on a Thursday for a race that starts Friday night.

 

[JAA]

Dutchess Half Marathon Race Report

After running lots and lots of slow miles, the last few weeks have been stressful from work and life.  I had been sleeping horribly and I questioned out this race would really go.  My big reach goal was to run 1:29:59.  Goal B was to PR (1:31:41).  Goal C was to PR this course (1:33:12).

Temps at the start were 64 degrees and 100% humidity.  Fog was actually there at the start but burned off by the half way mark.

Mile – pace / Average Heart rate

Mile 1 – 6:38 / 159

My plan was to try to run 6:52 and see how it went.  I got out early and felt decent so I pushed a bit and decided to bank a little time.

Mile 2 – 6:40 / 169

I was pushing but felt like the legs had it in them.  I wanted to see how this felt as I continued.

Mile 3 – 6:40 / 166

At this point, I started to do the math about what I needed to do to run the 1:29x.  I was seeing how much time I had banked to be careful with my pacing when things got tough.

Mile 4 – 6:47 / 168

Mile 5 – 6:43 / 169

Mile 6 – 6:55 / 168

These three miles went from feeling good to starting to push.  There was a stretch where there were no trees so the heat was punishing along here.  I was regularly pouring water on my head.  This is a smaller race.  I was hanging in about 18th place at this point.  Not really passing anyone and no one passing me. 

One thing that happened, at a water station, which were manned by high school kids (I think local cross country teams).  A boy was crossing and wasn’t looking.  Went right in my way.  I collided a bit with him and kept going.  I can’t say it really impacted my race, but it was noteworthy. 

Mile 7 – 6:49 / 169

Mile 8 – 6:52 / 170

Mile 9 – 6:55 / 170

Along here, I could feel myself pushing.  Although, I was more and more confident about going sub 1:30.  Things were clicking along quite nicely and I had a nearly 50 second cushion to carry me for the rest of the race.

Mile 10 – 7:26 / 169

This mile started with a ¼ mile steady but not steep uphill.  I wanted to get to the top of the hill at around a 7:00 minute pace.  The hill was harder than I expected and I got to the top at 0.40 miles and I was at 7:15 pace.  A small downhill, I wanted to make up time.  I got to about 0.65 with my pace back to 6:50 for the 2/3 of a mile.  I started to get a serious side stitch.  I tried to run through it but I was having trouble taking full breaths.  I put my arms above my head, tried slower deeper breaths, but nothing worked.  At 0.90 miles, I stopped to walk as I couldn’t continue like this.  Walked for a bit guessing 20-25 seconds and started up again.

Mile 11 – 7:56 / 160

Didn’t go far without realizing this side stitch wasn’t better.  I had to stop and walk again, probably for nearly a minute to help reset my heart rate.  I was upset here.  I knew 1:29x was not happening and the PR was toast too.  Once I got things settled, I started running again but probably in the 7:15 range.

Mile 12 – 7:11 / 163

I was pushing but not going full blast.  I felt like if I went any faster the side stitch would erupt again.  I felt like I was jogging fast but not full blast running.

Mile 13 – 7:09 / 165

I did the math at mile 13 and knew I had an outside shot at a PR.  So I started to pick it up some, but didn’t want to blow up the side stitch.  By the time I got to 12.5 miles, I started to pick up the pace.  I wanted to see if I could PR.

0.16 Miles – 5:48 / 175

I emptied the tank as I knew I was close to the PR.  Pushing it hard through the chute, it was tough to know I finished 3rd in my AG.  With the top two less than 30 seconds ahead of me. 

FINAL – 1:31:36 (5 second PR)

13.16 – 6:58 pace – Average HR 168

Overall 24/383 (top 6.2%)

Age Group 3/29 (top 10.3%)

awesome work, great PR

 

[gruecd]

I’ll go a step further. I think I’d rather do a 100-miler than really race a 5K.

 

[gianmarco]

I’ll go a step further. I think I’d rather do a 100-miler than really race a 5K.

I'll go even another step further. You're ####### crazy.

 

[SFBayDuck]

I’ll go a step further. I think I’d rather do a 100-miler than really race a 5K.

So which 100 are you signing up for?  

 

[Juxtatarot]

So which 100 are you signing up for?  

One that will stay between 35 and 45 degrees Fahrenheit with low humidity the entire duration.

 

[SteelCurtain]

I'm one of those that would "run" a marathon instead of "race" a marathon.

Please take this as a compliment.

After seeing you geek out on this stuff and make pretty quick progress with your running, I think you’ll be running a marathon in 2020 and racing one in 2021.

 

[gruecd]

One that will stay between 35 and 45 degrees Fahrenheit with low humidity the entire duration.

Yes. 

 

[JShare87]

All day.  And when it ends, it's glorious.  Knowing that there's only a little more to go makes it manageable. 

The less painful but significantly longer grind is something I care essentially none about.  No thank you.  I'm one of those that would "run" a marathon instead of "race" a marathon.

I was this guy too. Give it a few months, you’ll get an itch.

 

[Ned]

Confidence is a bit shaken between the result here and at Broad Street, but I think I am on the right path.  I am stubborn.

September races are going to be a huge gamble. It’s easy for me to say, but don’t let this get to you.  Any chance to run another one in mid-late October as a tuneup for Richmond? 

 

[Zasada]

Just signed-up for the Vegas Rock & Roll HM.  It's real now.  

The cool kids here are all about sub-90 but I'll be happy if I do sub-2hrs.  That's the goal.  

This race is in the evening.  I *never* run in the evening/night.  Always in the morning, usually at/before dawn.  I'm wondering if this time change will be a shock or just "meh, no biggie".

 

[Brony]

Just signed-up for the Vegas Rock & Roll HM.  It's real now.  

The cool kids here are all about sub-90 but I'll be happy if I do sub-2hrs.  That's the goal.  

This race is in the evening.  I *never* run in the evening/night.  Always in the morning, usually at/before dawn.  I'm wondering if this time change will be a shock or just "meh, no biggie".

That should be awesome event. Can't think of many better places to do a night run. Just stay on the course path. 

 

[Zasada]

That should be awesome event. Can't think of many better places to do a night run. Just stay on the course path. 

Hah, real problems if I don't stay on the path -- I think it's just up the strip and back.  About as "straight line" as it gets!

 

[gianmarco]

Just signed-up for the Vegas Rock & Roll HM.  It's real now.  

The cool kids here are all about sub-90 but I'll be happy if I do sub-2hrs.  That's the goal.  

Awesome. Can't wait to follow along.

 

[Ned]

I’ll go a step further. I think I’d rather do a 100-miler than really race a 5K.

Oh stop being so dramatic.  

 

[pbm107]

September races are going to be a huge gamble. It’s easy for me to say, but don’t let this get to you.  Any chance to run another one in mid-late October as a tuneup for Richmond? 

Thanks it’s good to see you back running and in here. You and Juxt had the same suggestion, something I will consider. 

 

[gianmarco]

Thanks it’s good to see you back running and in here. You and Juxt had the same suggestion, something I will consider. 

I know of a nice, relatively flat HM in October 

 

[gruecd]

One that will stay between 35 and 45 degrees Fahrenheit with low humidity the entire duration.

@SFBayDuck, you have one like this?

 

[ChiefD]

Just signed-up for the Vegas Rock & Roll HM.  It's real now.  

The cool kids here are all about sub-90 but I'll be happy if I do sub-2hrs.  That's the goal.  

This race is in the evening.  I *never* run in the evening/night.  Always in the morning, usually at/before dawn.  I'm wondering if this time change will be a shock or just "meh, no biggie".

Nice. 

And don’t worry. There are plenty of slow guys here. Like me, and.......well.........me.

 

[Brony]

Hah, real problems if I don't stay on the path -- I think it's just up the strip and back.  About as "straight line" as it gets!

I was thinking of the full marathon as more scenic, but yeah, you'll be alright. 

 

[JAA]

Rock N Roll Philly Race Report

I had two goal races for the fall, this race and Richmond marathon in November.   Running a September half marathon and a November marathon is something that I have done in the past in 2012, 2013, and 2015.  Each year I did this I ran a somewhat disappointing half (or really disappointing in 2015) and then followed it up with a good performance in the marathon in November. 

I think some of my issues with those half marathons were due to my training which was base building over summer then a Pfitz plan for 18 weeks before the marathon.  The primary goal those years was always the marathon, and I think my half marathon performance then suffered because I only had a handful of tempo runs prior to race day.

This year was different, for 14 weeks prior to the half I ran at least one quality work out a week which was based on the Pfitz half plan.  I wasn’t able to run all the miles in the plan, but I felt good about what I was able to do considering it was the summer.  Embracing the treadmill for workouts is something that has helped me.

Until this race I would often say that this has been a really good year and I have had only one bad day, Broad Street.  Now I have had 2 bad days. This really has been a breakout year for me even though I haven’t demonstrated it in a race over a quarter marathon. 

Race Day

Standing around waiting for the race to start I was really encouraged by how cloudy it was and how cool it felt, but looking at the weather history it was 66 degrees with a dew point of 64 and by the finish the suck index was 135.

The plan was to run the first 3 miles at 6:20 and then speed up to 6:15 if I felt good.  The first few miles are run in center city so I knew that GPS might struggle a bit there so I did my best to make sure I didn’t run faster than plan.  I did a decent job with it with a 6:21, 6:18, and a 6:12.  It was during the 3 mile where I felt warm.

Since I was feeling warm I decided that I wasn’t going to try to speed up and decided to try to stay at 6:20 pace.  I think this is where I drank some water at a stop and poured another cup over my head. Mile 5 is where I noticed that I am starting to slow down despite no change in effort.  #### I know I am in trouble, but I don’t fully accept it and try to stay under 6:30.  Miles 6 and 7 I continued with the effort but can no longer maintain sub 6:30 pace.  Ran these 2 at 6:38.  These are miserable miles because this is pointless and I am not even to the turnaround point at 9 miles.  My only focus is getting to the bridge where we turnaround. 

Mile 8 is the first time in the race were I walk through the water stop to make sure I drink a full cup of water and the dump water on my head, legs are shot and get through this mile in 7:10.

Mile 9 is where we reach the bridge and turnaround point, this race sucks but at least now each step now is closer to the finish line rather than farther away. Miles 9-12 were 7:25, 7:21, 7:27, and 7:25.

Mile 13 I realized that I am going to have to push it in order to run sub 1:30, and I am pushing it as hard as I can.  With a half a mile to go the 1:30 pacer and his group pass me.  I couldn’t keep up with them but I was able to finish with 1:29:53 without any puking.

Frustrating day but I guess that’s how racing works. Post race I was drinking with one of my running mentors and he said that only on two occasions in his running career has the race result equated to the work that went into it.  I thought that was depressing, but he is 48 and he wishes he was healthy enough to be racing. 

Confidence is a bit shaken between the result here and at Broad Street, but I think I am on the right path.  I am stubborn.

Awesome work on the sub 1:30. I find races end up being a let down. 

 

[JAA]

Just signed-up for the Vegas Rock & Roll HM.  It's real now.  

The cool kids here are all about sub-90 but I'll be happy if I do sub-2hrs.  That's the goal.  

This race is in the evening.  I *never* run in the evening/night.  Always in the morning, usually at/before dawn.  I'm wondering if this time change will be a shock or just "meh, no biggie".

I hate anything that starts after 9am. Oh gawd I can never prep properly. 

 

[mr. furley]

Nice. 

And don’t worry. There are plenty of slow guys here. Like me, and.......well.........me.

slow guy here

 

[-OZ-]

All day.  And when it ends, it's glorious.  Knowing that there's only a little more to go makes it manageable. 

The less painful but significantly longer grind is something I care essentially none about.  No thank you.  I'm one of those that would "run" a marathon instead of "race" a marathon.

Fwiw, I'm completely with you regarding road marathons. No desire to hit the pavement that long, to what end?  

But I will do another 140.6 someday when the kids are a little older. Also perhaps a trail...

I’ll go a step further. I think I’d rather do a 100-miler than really race a 5K.

There's a good chance I do a hundred before another road 26.2. Unless the marathon is training for the 100.

 

[Zasada]

OK so I'm in DC for work and decided to once again take advantage of the awesome opportunity to run on the mall.  It's so great -- possibly my favourite place to street run (of the few places I have run in my short, 18-month history).  

Today, though, was like running in the swamp.  Before sunrise it was 73F with a dew point of 71F.  And 2/3 of the way through it, the rain came.  Had to take a couple walk breaks.  Definitely felt the suck despite being at sea level.

Tomorrow looks better.  

 

[ChiefD]

Used my foam roller last night for the first time in forever.

Holy fooking hell that hurt. Obviously need to do it more. 

 

[Juxtatarot]

Used my foam roller last night for the first time in forever.

Holy fooking hell that hurt. Obviously need to do it more. 

I recently realized a correlation between rolling my calf and my heel being better.  I get this tightness deep in my calf that can be quite painful rolling out if I don't do it frequently.  Of course, since I can be frugal, I just use a rolling pin instead of buying a fancy foam roller.

 

[Brony]

Used my foam roller last night for the first time in forever.

Holy fooking hell that hurt. Obviously need to do it more. 

I've slacked off on strengthening my hip muscles and core, but I'm still pretty much a daily roller. Sometimes twice a day

 

[gianmarco]

Ugh, frustrated right now.  This is supposed to be my biggest week with workouts and life and weather just aren't cooperating right now.

Figured I'd try my workout this morning while getting tires done and it's just too ####### hot and also not the safest spot to run on a busy street to do mile repeats. So I guess I'll try again later tonight after only getting one done repeat just how. But it's almost 90 degrees again with a 71 dew point. And it's going to be like this the rest of the week. Enough already. 

And while I'm looking forward to the @ChiefD encounter, traveling out of town this weekend for 3 days doesn't help either. I've still got to fit an hour tempo run and a 5 mile pace run before I try to long run on Sunday in KC.  It's just not all going to happen and then I'm down to final 2 weeks. 

Oh well, it is what it is and I'll get done what I can get done. At least I don't think I need to do any kind of taper since my weekly mileage isn't that high. I'll work hard one more week next week and then take it easy that last week.

 

[ChiefD]

Ugh, frustrated right now.  This is supposed to be my biggest week with workouts and life and weather just aren't cooperating right now.

Figured I'd try my workout this morning while getting tires done and it's just too ####### hot and also not the safest spot to run on a busy street to do mile repeats. So I guess I'll try again later tonight after only getting one done repeat just how. But it's almost 90 degrees again with a 71 dew point. And it's going to be like this the rest of the week. Enough already. 

And while I'm looking forward to the @ChiefD encounter, traveling out of town this weekend for 3 days doesn't help either. I've still got to fit an hour tempo run and a 5 mile pace run before I try to long run on Sunday in KC.  It's just not all going to happen and then I'm down to final 2 weeks. 

Oh well, it is what it is and I'll get done what I can get done. At least I don't think I need to do any kind of taper since my weekly mileage isn't that high. I'll work hard one more week next week and then take it easy that last week.

I will tell you from experience, when it is this hot you get whatever work in that you can. If that means you forgo speed work for a 3 mile slow run, so be it. I just try and slow my heart rate way down, and sometimes it means an 11:30 pace on a hot day.

Still got my work in, and at least some aerobic training was done. Just do what you can and don't worry about the rest. 

Edit: the weather looks great for a long run on Sunday for you here in KC. Suck index of like 112 or something. 

 

[JAA]

What is everyone's thoughts on soda?

Ive been fiending soda lately.  The bubbles, the caffeine, I just bought one to go with my lunch.  I must have them  Note I didnt say I was fiending sugar.  Im actually not wanting the pure sweetness and have been gravitating towards the diets.  Ive been trying to get it to a few a week, like 5 .  That said, I cant stop thinking about soda and im not a soda drinker.  Im also a good eater, so I dont really worry about the calories.  I have like 2 cups or so of black tea a day, neither worried about the caffeine.  This craving is prolly a couple months old.  Im wondering if its a passing want.

Does anyone else worry about soda?  Too much, not enough?

 

[JAA]

Ugh, frustrated right now.  This is supposed to be my biggest week with workouts and life and weather just aren't cooperating right now.

Figured I'd try my workout this morning while getting tires done and it's just too ####### hot and also not the safest spot to run on a busy street to do mile repeats. So I guess I'll try again later tonight after only getting one done repeat just how. But it's almost 90 degrees again with a 71 dew point. And it's going to be like this the rest of the week. Enough already. 

And while I'm looking forward to the @ChiefD encounter, traveling out of town this weekend for 3 days doesn't help either. I've still got to fit an hour tempo run and a 5 mile pace run before I try to long run on Sunday in KC.  It's just not all going to happen and then I'm down to final 2 weeks. 

Oh well, it is what it is and I'll get done what I can get done. At least I don't think I need to do any kind of taper since my weekly mileage isn't that high. I'll work hard one more week next week and then take it easy that last week.

Dont sweat it.  Focus on what you can do and enjoy that.  Make sure you follow your taper period, whatever it is.  IMHO with only 2 weeks left you are at a greater chance of injury than significant gains.

 

[Juxtatarot]

What is everyone's thoughts on soda?

Ive been fiending soda lately.  The bubbles, the caffeine, I just bought one to go with my lunch.  I must have them  Note I didnt say I was fiending sugar.  Im actually not wanting the pure sweetness and have been gravitating towards the diets.  Ive been trying to get it to a few a week, like 5 .  That said, I cant stop thinking about soda and im not a soda drinker.  Im also a good eater, so I dont really worry about the calories.  I have like 2 cups or so of black tea a day, neither worried about the caffeine.  This craving is prolly a couple months old.  Im wondering if its a passing want.

Does anyone else worry about soda?  Too much, not enough?

One pop a day (I assume this is what you mean -- not an actual soda which is a drink of carbonated water, syrup and ice cream) for someone who is otherwise a healthy eater and exercises seems perfectly reasonable to me.

Besides, before Gatorade didn't endurance athletes drink flat Coke?  

 

[Brony]

Today our office park has its annual corporate challenge for the bunch of desk jockeys that slog their hours away here.   I ran it last year, but only other 'runner' from our company did it, so I passed on it this year.  Turns out it's a total downpour during race time, so I made the right call. 'yay'

 

[SFBayDuck]

@SFBayDuck, you have one like this?

You've got some choices.  Look into races November-February and you should be able find some.  How about  Tunnel Hill 100?  Completely flat, non-technical, fast course.   Average November temps in Vienna, IL, are 38-59, and I would assume humidity is gone by November?

 

[ChiefD]

What is everyone's thoughts on soda?

Ive been fiending soda lately.  The bubbles, the caffeine, I just bought one to go with my lunch.  I must have them  Note I didnt say I was fiending sugar.  Im actually not wanting the pure sweetness and have been gravitating towards the diets.  Ive been trying to get it to a few a week, like 5 .  That said, I cant stop thinking about soda and im not a soda drinker.  Im also a good eater, so I dont really worry about the calories.  I have like 2 cups or so of black tea a day, neither worried about the caffeine.  This craving is prolly a couple months old.  Im wondering if its a passing want.

Does anyone else worry about soda?  Too much, not enough?

I've been trying to break myself off of soda for years. Just cannot do it. 

I'm down to one 32oz coke in the mornings on my way to work. And really, it's more like 12 oz of coke with a 20oz of jam packed ice. But at some point I need to stop for my stomach's sake. All the extra crap in those things is not good for me. 

But damn, a fountain coke is straight from the heavens.

 

[SFBayDuck]

I've been trying to break myself off of soda for years. Just cannot do it. 

I'm down to one 32oz coke in the mornings on my way to work. And really, it's more like 12 oz of coke with a 20oz of jam packed ice. But at some point I need to stop for my stomach's sake. All the extra crap in those things is not good for me. 

But damn, a fountain coke is straight from the heavens.

Years ago I drove around with a 12-pack of Diet Coke in my truck at all times.  But I didn't drink coffee then, and when I picked up coffee drinking in my early 30s I pretty much stopped drinking soda.  The exceptions are the occasional Coke Zero with rum, a diet Coke from a fast food place during a road trip, or of course Coke from an aid station table during an ultra. 

 

[gianmarco]

Years ago I drove around with a 12-pack of Diet Coke in my truck at all times.  But I didn't drink coffee then, and when I picked up coffee drinking in my early 30s I pretty much stopped drinking soda.  The exceptions are the occasional Coke Zero with rum, a diet Coke from a fast food place during a road trip, or of course Coke from an aid station table during an ultra. 

I'm curious to know which of those happens most frequently. I have a scary feeling it may be the last one.

 

[SFBayDuck]

I'm curious to know which of those happens most frequently. I have a scary feeling it may be the last one.

Ha!  I have had a Coke Zero and rum more recently than I've run an ultra (it's a go-to cocktail when I'm low-carbing).  But if I looked at total annual volume of soda consumed, it very well may be the aid station Cokes that win.  It'd be close, at least.

 

[gianmarco]

Ha!  I have had a Coke Zero and rum more recently than I've run an ultra (it's a go-to cocktail when I'm low-carbing).  But if I looked at total annual volume of soda consumed, it very well may be the aid station Cokes that win.  It'd be close, at least.

"I'll take it a step further. I'd rather get my Cokes from aid stations during a 100 mile run than to race a 5K and drink a Coke when I'm done."

 

[SFBayDuck]

"I'll take it a step further. I'd rather puke up my Cokes from aid stations during a 100 mile run than to race a 5K and puke up Coke when I'm done."

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