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Rashied Davis Bears #1 WR - According to Troy Aikman (1 Viewer)
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Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
I can't see that. Not with Orton and not in the Windy City. Chicago's #1 WR is probably Olsen statistically at the end of the year. You're wasting your time if you have plans to start a Bears WR this year. And I'm a Bears homer.
Said Craig Miami Florida from Arizona, i love Chicago.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
As far as talent evaluators go, Aikman is a good commentator. :crickets:
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
So I don't like cold weather. :shrugs:
I know, right?As far as Davis goes, last year the bears as a team threw for 3701 Yards and 18 TDs, with around half of that coming from Greise, who number wise was their best QB in every aspect. Bottom line, I can't see Chicago passing for better than 3700 and 18 this year...Spread that mess out, and Davis is going to be limited in his upside.
Red Apples
Footballguy
Re-signing Rashied Davis sent message that he is in Bears receiving plans
Bears hope Davis lives up to nice deal he got in off-season
By Vaughn McClure | Chicago Tribune reporter
August 2, 2008
BOURBONNAIS—Stashed somewhere in his house, if his wife Dianna didn't dispose of it, Rashied Davis has a plastic bag full of dreadlocks from his New Year's Eve haircut.
"I was thinking about making a wig," the Bears receiver said with a laugh. "If I knew a wig-maker, I probably would."
It has been a while since Davis had a bad hair day. The 29-year-old ex-Arena Leaguer's new look should become a fashion trend his fellow receivers follow—on the field, at least.
He's stronger. He's quicker. He's wiser. He's a leader.
"He's an all-world type of guy," teammate Marty Booker said. "That's a guy who can do everything."
Asked about training camp buzz he continues to generate after a strong off-season, Davis shrugged and considered the question as he slowly rubbed his now dread-free hair.
"Nobody's talking about me, man," he said. "I just go out and do my job. That's it. If the ball comes to me, catch it. Period.
"I don't really look at the paper, so I don't know how much buzz is going on, to be honest with you. But I know I run good routes. I know I catch the ball well. I know I'm a pretty smart player and I know where I need to be. So that's what I try to go out and do."
Davis might downplay his value, but the Bears have grown to appreciate his worth. The guy who got his first taste of organized football at a community college and who doubled as a defensive back in the AFL became a fairly hot commodity as a restricted free agent after last season despite having just 17 catches. Buffalo, Kansas City, Miami and Seattle expressed interest, knowing Davis could contribute on special teams as well.
"I would say Kansas City, by far, showed the most interest," agent Wynn Silberman said of the team the Bears face in Thursday's exhibition opener. "We were very close to getting that deal done.
"But first and foremost, we have a very strong relationship with the Chicago Bears. It came down to the Chicago Bears recognizing Rashied's efforts and hard work and wanting to reward one of their own."
Davis first signed a one-year tender offer for $927,000 on April 18. Five days later he signed a three-year deal with a max value of $5.86 million, including a $1.1 million signing bonus. His escalators are based on making approximately 45 receptions in consecutive seasons.
"It's always nice to be wanted, especially when you only have 39 catches in your career," Davis said. "I just wanted to be somewhere where I was wanted."
Coach Lovie Smith and receivers coach Darryl Drake did a sales job on Davis.
"They called me and expressed that they wanted me back here," Davis said. "That made it a lot easier for me to say I wanted to be here."
The Bears expect him to be an integral part of their offense.
In the past he has been a slot receiver most likely to see the field on third down. But without an established No. 1 receiver, the Bears envision Davis being a reliable threat in any situation.
Drake continues to tout Davis as the Bears' best receiver at this juncture, although others could catch up by the regular season. Offensive coordinator Ron Turner sees no reason Davis won't keep going at this accelerated pace.
"He's playing fast, faster than he ever has," Turner said. "He mainly played 12 to 15 plays in the slot. Now we've asked him to accept the role of possibly being an every-down receiver. And he has handled it very well.
"I see him being involved in a lot more plays. The way he's playing, we want to get him on the field, and we will get him on the field."
While outsiders have noticed Davis' evolution as a receiver, he would say his most drastic change has nothing to do with football. He's living a more tranquil life, which he attributes to his Christian faith and the impending birth of his first child this month.
"I've tried to change and grow up," Davis said. "Just little things like trying to control my language because I do have a daughter on the way. I can't expect her not to curse if I'm doing it. She'll learn from me.
"But other than that, I'm pretty much the same person."
With a lot less hair, of course.
Bears hope Davis lives up to nice deal he got in off-season
By Vaughn McClure | Chicago Tribune reporter
August 2, 2008
BOURBONNAIS—Stashed somewhere in his house, if his wife Dianna didn't dispose of it, Rashied Davis has a plastic bag full of dreadlocks from his New Year's Eve haircut.
"I was thinking about making a wig," the Bears receiver said with a laugh. "If I knew a wig-maker, I probably would."
It has been a while since Davis had a bad hair day. The 29-year-old ex-Arena Leaguer's new look should become a fashion trend his fellow receivers follow—on the field, at least.
He's stronger. He's quicker. He's wiser. He's a leader.
"He's an all-world type of guy," teammate Marty Booker said. "That's a guy who can do everything."
Asked about training camp buzz he continues to generate after a strong off-season, Davis shrugged and considered the question as he slowly rubbed his now dread-free hair.
"Nobody's talking about me, man," he said. "I just go out and do my job. That's it. If the ball comes to me, catch it. Period.
"I don't really look at the paper, so I don't know how much buzz is going on, to be honest with you. But I know I run good routes. I know I catch the ball well. I know I'm a pretty smart player and I know where I need to be. So that's what I try to go out and do."
Davis might downplay his value, but the Bears have grown to appreciate his worth. The guy who got his first taste of organized football at a community college and who doubled as a defensive back in the AFL became a fairly hot commodity as a restricted free agent after last season despite having just 17 catches. Buffalo, Kansas City, Miami and Seattle expressed interest, knowing Davis could contribute on special teams as well.
"I would say Kansas City, by far, showed the most interest," agent Wynn Silberman said of the team the Bears face in Thursday's exhibition opener. "We were very close to getting that deal done.
"But first and foremost, we have a very strong relationship with the Chicago Bears. It came down to the Chicago Bears recognizing Rashied's efforts and hard work and wanting to reward one of their own."
Davis first signed a one-year tender offer for $927,000 on April 18. Five days later he signed a three-year deal with a max value of $5.86 million, including a $1.1 million signing bonus. His escalators are based on making approximately 45 receptions in consecutive seasons.
"It's always nice to be wanted, especially when you only have 39 catches in your career," Davis said. "I just wanted to be somewhere where I was wanted."
Coach Lovie Smith and receivers coach Darryl Drake did a sales job on Davis.
"They called me and expressed that they wanted me back here," Davis said. "That made it a lot easier for me to say I wanted to be here."
The Bears expect him to be an integral part of their offense.
In the past he has been a slot receiver most likely to see the field on third down. But without an established No. 1 receiver, the Bears envision Davis being a reliable threat in any situation.
Drake continues to tout Davis as the Bears' best receiver at this juncture, although others could catch up by the regular season. Offensive coordinator Ron Turner sees no reason Davis won't keep going at this accelerated pace.
"He's playing fast, faster than he ever has," Turner said. "He mainly played 12 to 15 plays in the slot. Now we've asked him to accept the role of possibly being an every-down receiver. And he has handled it very well.
"I see him being involved in a lot more plays. The way he's playing, we want to get him on the field, and we will get him on the field."
While outsiders have noticed Davis' evolution as a receiver, he would say his most drastic change has nothing to do with football. He's living a more tranquil life, which he attributes to his Christian faith and the impending birth of his first child this month.
"I've tried to change and grow up," Davis said. "Just little things like trying to control my language because I do have a daughter on the way. I can't expect her not to curse if I'm doing it. She'll learn from me.
"But other than that, I'm pretty much the same person."
With a lot less hair, of course.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
IMO the bears are going to be classic WRBC
booker
davis
bradley
lloyd
hester
bennett
that a mess with two viable TE options as well.
booker
davis
bradley
lloyd
hester
bennett
that a mess with two viable TE options as well.
Ned
Footballguy
and it was a real drop. right through both of his hands.
Gatorman
Supreme Elite Maximum Tier
look, I saw last nights game, and while I am not "high" on davis, someone is going to have to catch the 80 balls berrian got last year, so why not Davis?
My thoughts from last nights game:
1) Orton will be a serviceable QB #3.
2) MAtt Forte will get the ball a lot, but may go nowhere with it (I did not see Kev Jones run)
3) Davis and Olsen are two guys that could have a spot as backups on a Fantasy team, and may even surprise.
4) The bears D will not be very good, but their special teams may continue to make them a good start for team D
On the SF side.
1) JTO could be the next warner. Getting him late may be a better pick than some RB #7
2) Vernon Davis may actually live up to his potential (finally)
3) Gore may see some passes in this offense. However, they will not be the game breaking marshall faulk type passes, but more of the underneath stuff.
4) Issac Bruce may be serviceable
While I am not about to pencil any of these guys into my starting lineups (other than Gore), I think that there is some hope that the two TEs, JTO, Davis, and Bruce could be decent value plays for my teams (especially ones with deep rosters).
IMHO.
Gator
My thoughts from last nights game:
1) Orton will be a serviceable QB #3.
2) MAtt Forte will get the ball a lot, but may go nowhere with it (I did not see Kev Jones run)
3) Davis and Olsen are two guys that could have a spot as backups on a Fantasy team, and may even surprise.
4) The bears D will not be very good, but their special teams may continue to make them a good start for team D
On the SF side.
1) JTO could be the next warner. Getting him late may be a better pick than some RB #7
2) Vernon Davis may actually live up to his potential (finally)
3) Gore may see some passes in this offense. However, they will not be the game breaking marshall faulk type passes, but more of the underneath stuff.
4) Issac Bruce may be serviceable
While I am not about to pencil any of these guys into my starting lineups (other than Gore), I think that there is some hope that the two TEs, JTO, Davis, and Bruce could be decent value plays for my teams (especially ones with deep rosters).
IMHO.
Gator
Must just be Moore owner.
ericttspikes
Footballguy
I agree. I like Rashied and it wouldn't be a complete waste to get him as a WR 6-7, but I'm not sure he'll put up numbers every week. On the positive side, Berrian's numbers will have to go somewhere, I'm just not sure if Davis alone will be the beneficiary. I don't understand how Mike Hass didn't get more of a chance, especially last year. He'll probably be cut this year, but I thought he could of been a Waddle/Baschnagel type possesion guy.
The dude even has a rap tune about him, LOL.
Frank Black
Footballguy
Gator, it's good to see you - I wish you posted more. And I agree with your comments.Gatorman said:
Fantaholic
Footballguy
Good question. But, it pertains to every single pre-season of every year. There 10-15 guys like this that shine under the pre-seaosn lights. Very, very few of them keep it going in the regular season. Could RDavis be one of this year's very few? Sure, but odds are not on your side. I will usually take one of these guys as a flyer in the last rounds if no one else does. However, drafting them too early usually results in a waiver move after the first week.
Booker's old, Lloyd has proven unreliable, Hester's still learning to be a WR, Bradley's a bust about to be cut, Bennett is a rook, and then there's the arena league player giving it his all trying to do anything he can to help the team win. I could "see" it that he winds up best WR in Chi-town.
I don't think it'll be that easy though. If for nothing else, keep in mind he and Orton probably have a connection from their time with the 2nd unit and Orton will grow more familiar with Booker and the rest. Lloyd and Hester are probably good for an exciting play and maybe a few let downs as they try to push their luck. Booker has to seem like the sure handed guy out of this group. Like someone else said, could be a different guy each week leading the team in receiving
I don't think it'll be that easy though. If for nothing else, keep in mind he and Orton probably have a connection from their time with the 2nd unit and Orton will grow more familiar with Booker and the rest. Lloyd and Hester are probably good for an exciting play and maybe a few let downs as they try to push their luck. Booker has to seem like the sure handed guy out of this group. Like someone else said, could be a different guy each week leading the team in receiving
Johnny Rock
Footballguy
Gatorman said:
Didn't see the game but felt like I did after reading that. Thanks.
sholditch
Footballguy
Chicago hasn't had a 1.000 yard receiver since Booker in 2002 (i think that's the year). Davis will likely be good for about 750 and 5. Decent Wr4 #s for a deep league.
hotdogcollars
Footballguy
depends on where i could get him. Would love to have him as a WR3 option this year. CHI has some matchups i would use him in. But i would be real hesitant to just plug him into my starting lineup and let him go.
AnonymousBob
Footballguy
What about Hester?
Gatorman
Supreme Elite Maximum Tier
I agree, BUT, Teams have to throw, and throw to someone. If you think the bears are going to be abou tthe same as last year, then someone is going to have to get some of that offense.As for posting more: this year I am paying a little more attention, mainly b/c I am tired of poor showings at WCOFF.I take last night's events with a grain of salt. SF got absolutely no pressure on Orton. If you think he'll have that much time all season, put him down for 4200 yards with Davis getting 1500 of that.
massraider
Footballguy
I think this is the kind of guy you run after in dynasty drafts.
Always liked Rashied, late bloomer, AFL guy, came in as a defensive back with the Bears, but I can remember seeing something from him early on at WR. He catches the ball pretty naturally, and I think he has a real chance to be a good WR. It would not surprise me if he is for real.
Now, Chicago isn't the sexiest place for a WR to play, but considering that you can pick him up off the scrap heap for nothing, even in deep dynasty leagues, and he has no one in front of him, where's the risk. Hey, Berrian was a startable player last year.
Always liked Rashied, late bloomer, AFL guy, came in as a defensive back with the Bears, but I can remember seeing something from him early on at WR. He catches the ball pretty naturally, and I think he has a real chance to be a good WR. It would not surprise me if he is for real.
Now, Chicago isn't the sexiest place for a WR to play, but considering that you can pick him up off the scrap heap for nothing, even in deep dynasty leagues, and he has no one in front of him, where's the risk. Hey, Berrian was a startable player last year.
saintfool
Dead sexy
Sun-Times beat writer seems to think Lloyd is a lock as a starter (5 catches this preseason thusfar). I think Davis and Hester are duking it out for WR2 duties. Booker is the odd man out with Bennett bringing up the rear, only a rookie.The TE's might get more targets but I think we all agree that someone has to be the #1WR. Davis, clearly, is the hustle and effort guy that we all want to succeed. Hester still has to learn the position, so I think he has a way to go. Lloyd is the headscratcher of the bunch to me.
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
I just don't think he gets enough plays on O personally to count as a WR3 even?
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
and I just picked up Davis in Keeper league, but I don't think you can discount the rapport that he showed with Orton, since Orton is now the starter.
I have another draft this weekend and will be targeting him late.
I have another draft this weekend and will be targeting him late.
AnonymousBob
Footballguy
I play in a league that gives points for kr/pr...so if Hester will get a few hundred yards on the offensive side of the ball he could sneak his way toward a top ten finish.
the spanker
Footballguy
Depends...what's your scoring format? How many pts per yardage?AnonymousBob said:
Believe it or not, Lloyd still has some fans. I've read stuff like that but most of the offseason it's been all Booker.However, I saw this recently and it's made me a bit squeemish about all my late round "steals" drafting Booker after all the WR1s and WR2s are gone.saintfool said:
http://www.daily-chronicle.com/articles/20...36734045262.txtThis secretive plan **could** be just to rest the old guy and see if Bradley, Hass, and Davis are good enough.(I think this has been answerred this summer) All in all though I don't know if I'm just re-assuring myself/FF team.
BIG FAT RED FLARE HERE
Eviloutsider
Footballguy
So who is the number one guy in Chicago? Any guesses?
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
I don't think it's out of line/pre-season craziness to say that it is Davis. I mean when the back-up qb gets annoited the starter, and he has an obvious rapport with Davis... in light of no better alternatives??? I say it's Davis?especially when he's on most waiver wires. roll the dice. more upside imo.
Eviloutsider
Footballguy
I would think it would hamper his numbers though if he is only a slot guy.
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
i mean Wr1 in production. So far orton throws his way a lot and seems comfortable with him. I see 5 catches a game at a minimum, and I think Orton is really underrated. That's 70 catches right there? Sounds like a good WW find. Who knows a few weeks in, it could all go to piss. But when you compare him to the last guy on your bench I think he has nothing but upside.
TitusIII
Footballguy
He's a pretty small cat, but has most of the tools a WR needs to stick around and produce in the NFL. Of course, expecting anything more than #3 numbers is a stretch, but if the Bears are as bad as everyone seems to think they will be, someone besides the TE trio will have to catch the ball.
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
millertyme1
Footballguy
I'm still waiting for Orten to Mark Bradley connection to rekindle itself after a blistering preseason 2005 together.
No shot I start any Bears receiver outside Olsen this year.
No shot I start any Bears receiver outside Olsen this year.
AnonymousBob
Footballguy
1 point for 20 return yards...fraction scoring.
a_rackowski
Footballguy
I am actually hoping that Hester doesnt get the #2 job because his value is in his returning kicks. Plus, its easier for a guy like Hester to line up all over the field and be involved in some gimmick plays provided he isnt the #2 WR in my opinion. Hester will get his touches but when your returning kicks and have 20 yards on both sides of you and the players are spread out its much easier to make guys miss than catching a WR screen and making guys miss. He is Dante Hall.
Ned
Footballguy
did you actually see the drop? it was right in front of him, eyes locked on the ball, two hands on the ball and it goes right off his hands.Yes and professional WR's never drop any passes, whats wrong with this guy?and it was a real drop. right through both of his hands.
:X
