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[SoloMatisse]

So Reggie Bush draws a GALE SAYERS comparison now?  Man.  It just gets better and better with the Bush legend.....

Alright, about the MARSHALL FAULK comparison....Faulk stepped off the bus in Indy his rookie year and had 300plus carries and 50 something catches.  The specific touches escape me, but each of his first 2 years there he had over 350 touches.  I doubt they were stupid enough to put him on punt return or kick return duties, but if Houston does this it would not shock me.  Though why any organization in their right mind would put a #1 overall pick as the return man on the 'smear the queer' squad completely escapes me.  If Bush is used in the return game, the coaching staff needs to be fired immediately.  Getting back to Faulk....he had decent #s, but Im still not sure he was a top 10 back, let alone a top 5 back.  Those were his best years with the Colts if Im not mistaken.  I could be wrong.  Anyway, do we think the 'Reg-ister'.....$$$$$....Cha Ching.....is going to see 350plus touches each of his 1st 2 years in the league?  I dont see it.

300 carries is only 18 carries a game. I don't think that's out of the realm of possibility. In St. Louis Faulk was averaging about 250-260 carries a year when he was putting up the big numbers. I could see Bush getting 15-20 carries a game and 5 receptions.

one, 300 carries is 18 carries a game plus, playing ALL 16 games without fail. second, when Faulk came to St Louis, he had already been in the league for 5 or 6 years, and played with the greatest show on turf, another league MVP, 2 ALL Pro receivers, and ran behind the best Left Tackle in the game. Does Reggie Bush have ANY of this in Houston. Without a doubt......NO! NO! NO! Reggie Bush needs to be compared to some of the greatest college running backs to ever play the game...but not to legends like Gale Sayers or Marshall Faulk. Remember Charles White when he came out of USC? He was drafted by Cleveland really high....remember him?...the cant miss guy, kinda small....bad team. All American a couple of times....Rose Bowl MVP a couple of times I think. There's the guy Reggie Bush needs to be compared to.

So you think Houston's always going to suck. Seems to me their on the right path. These are dynasty drafts that he's being drafted highly in. People are looking out a few years. The Charles White comparison holds no water. He became a drug addict and that's what sunk his career. Unless you think Reggie's going to pull a Ricky. White actually got off the drugs later in his life and came back with the Rams and led the NFC in rushing.

Look, if you guys are going to defend Reggie Bush regarding his comparisons to LT2, Gale Sayers and Marshall Faulk and then point out that comparisons to great college backs 'hold no water' then youre just not in touch with reality. My point is that they guy's done NOTHING. Nothing. He played very well in college in a conference that annually plays awful defense. At this point he's done nothing in the pros, so a JJ Arrington or Charles White comparison are much more in line. and "YES", I do think Houston is going to suck for a long time. Their QB is awful, their owner doesnt have a clue, theyre about to fire their GM, theyre overlooking obvious needs on both lines, and are taking the smallest running back in the draft first overall. This organization doesnt know how to build a winner and REggie Bush is way overrated. The Bush hype "holds not water"....to use someone else's quote.

 

[coco the monkey]

So Reggie Bush draws a GALE SAYERS comparison now?  Man.  It just gets better and better with the Bush legend.....

Alright, about the MARSHALL FAULK comparison....Faulk stepped off the bus in Indy his rookie year and had 300plus carries and 50 something catches.  The specific touches escape me, but each of his first 2 years there he had over 350 touches.  I doubt they were stupid enough to put him on punt return or kick return duties, but if Houston does this it would not shock me.  Though why any organization in their right mind would put a #1 overall pick as the return man on the 'smear the queer' squad completely escapes me.  If Bush is used in the return game, the coaching staff needs to be fired immediately.  Getting back to Faulk....he had decent #s, but Im still not sure he was a top 10 back, let alone a top 5 back.  Those were his best years with the Colts if Im not mistaken.  I could be wrong.  Anyway, do we think the 'Reg-ister'.....$$$$$....Cha Ching.....is going to see 350plus touches each of his 1st 2 years in the league?  I dont see it.

300 carries is only 18 carries a game. I don't think that's out of the realm of possibility. In St. Louis Faulk was averaging about 250-260 carries a year when he was putting up the big numbers. I could see Bush getting 15-20 carries a game and 5 receptions.

one, 300 carries is 18 carries a game plus, playing ALL 16 games without fail. second, when Faulk came to St Louis, he had already been in the league for 5 or 6 years, and played with the greatest show on turf, another league MVP, 2 ALL Pro receivers, and ran behind the best Left Tackle in the game. Does Reggie Bush have ANY of this in Houston. Without a doubt......NO! NO! NO! Reggie Bush needs to be compared to some of the greatest college running backs to ever play the game...but not to legends like Gale Sayers or Marshall Faulk. Remember Charles White when he came out of USC? He was drafted by Cleveland really high....remember him?...the cant miss guy, kinda small....bad team. All American a couple of times....Rose Bowl MVP a couple of times I think. There's the guy Reggie Bush needs to be compared to.

So you think Houston's always going to suck. Seems to me their on the right path. These are dynasty drafts that he's being drafted highly in. People are looking out a few years. The Charles White comparison holds no water. He became a drug addict and that's what sunk his career. Unless you think Reggie's going to pull a Ricky. White actually got off the drugs later in his life and came back with the Rams and led the NFC in rushing.

Look, if you guys are going to defend Reggie Bush regarding his comparisons to LT2, Gale Sayers and Marshall Faulk and then point out that comparisons to great college backs 'hold no water' then youre just not in touch with reality. My point is that they guy's done NOTHING. Nothing. He played very well in college in a conference that annually plays awful defense. At this point he's done nothing in the pros, so a JJ Arrington or Charles White comparison are much more in line. and "YES", I do think Houston is going to suck for a long time. Their QB is awful, their owner doesnt have a clue, theyre about to fire their GM, theyre overlooking obvious needs on both lines, and are taking the smallest running back in the draft first overall. This organization doesnt know how to build a winner and REggie Bush is way overrated. The Bush hype "holds not water"....to use someone else's quote.

He plays a lot like Faulk, if you can't see that than i don't know what else to say. Of course there's going to be a comparison there. Same type of moves, same strengths, same size. He's grading off the charts by most scouts, he's the most talked about college runningback that I can remember, people have been awe struck for 2 years now watching him play. Of course there's an excitement. He's more highly regarded than Steven Jackson, Ronnie Brown and Cadillac Williams coming out of school and they're all top 10 dynasty picks right now. None are particularly proven yet either. He excites people, people love to watch him play. Is that a bad thing?

 

[cracKer]

This has no relevance at all. The point in bringing up Faulk was that elite numbers can be put up without a lot of carries. Whether or not Faulk could handle 350, or 450, and 1 million carries per season is irrelevant to the point that he was a fantasy god while getting well under 300.

It's good to see that someone was actually reading thank you

same point with Sayers BTW. Just pointing out that runners can be dominant without posting a massive amount of carries.

 

[jurb26]

This has no relevance at all. The point in bringing up Faulk was that elite numbers can be put up without a lot of carries. Whether or not Faulk could handle 350, or 450, and 1 million carries per season is irrelevant to the point that he was a fantasy god while getting well under 300.

It's good to see that someone was actually reading thank you

same point with Sayers BTW. Just pointing out that runners can be dominant without posting a massive amount of carries.

I'm sorry, I must be lost. I didn't think this thread was about logic.

 

[scott46984]

A lot of this future dynasty potential depends on what type of team these player go to. I know (duh!), but by type of team I mean the scheme these players are most comfortable with or best suited for.

Maroney is a classic example. He flourished at Minnesota with their zone blocking scheme. It's a different style than the straight to a hole scheme some teams run, more read and react. If he goes to a team like Denver or Indy that use this scheme, he's much more likely to be successful than if he goes to more of a power running team.

Maroney is a prime example of a guy who could be a stud in the right system, or average at best in a system not best suited for his abilities.

Not as familar with the style of offenses USC (Bush, White) or Memphis (D Williams) runs, so can't comment on that, but if Maroney goes to Denver or Indy, I'd put him 2nd to Bush for dynasty potential.