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Ravens make some big cuts (1 Viewer)

I wonder if they will try to resign Mason and Heap on the cheap. Can't imagine there are going to be teams starting a bidding ward for either of them.

 
I wonder if they will try to resign Mason and Heap on the cheap. Can't imagine there are going to be teams starting a bidding ward for either of them.
I doubt they would even think about bringing Mason back. They drafted Smith in the 2nd round and Doss in the 4th round to replace him.
 
I think Mason and Heap will be back. Not a lot of teams will desire their services. Mason may as well retire if not in Balt IMO.

Teams really have a ton of leverage with these late career veterans (no OTA's to acquaint themselves with new teams) and other teams aren't going to give them much in the way of cash. Their current teams tell them more or less agree to take a cut (or good luck with your next destination)

 
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I wonder if they will try to resign Mason and Heap on the cheap. Can't imagine there are going to be teams starting a bidding ward for either of them.
I doubt they would even think about bringing Mason back. They drafted Smith in the 2nd round and Doss in the 4th round to replace him.
The Ravens are trying to vie for a Super Bowl - no way do they go in *hoping* these draft picks pan out, if they don't sign Mason they'll bring someone else, and if not, they'll be shooting themselves in the foot.
 
I wonder if they will try to resign Mason and Heap on the cheap. Can't imagine there are going to be teams starting a bidding ward for either of them.
I doubt they would even think about bringing Mason back. They drafted Smith in the 2nd round and Doss in the 4th round to replace him.
He is there #1 WR...why would a very competitive team cut him and roll a couple rookies out there?Mason still has plenty of game left.
 
I wonder if they will try to resign Mason and Heap on the cheap. Can't imagine there are going to be teams starting a bidding ward for either of them.
I doubt they would even think about bringing Mason back. They drafted Smith in the 2nd round and Doss in the 4th round to replace him.
He is there #1 WR...why would a very competitive team cut him and roll a couple rookies out there?Mason still has plenty of game left.
Boldin is their #1 and they need somebody who can legitimately stretch the field. Mason can't do that and he isn't half as good as Boldin at this stage of his career. I doubt they bring him back.
 
I wonder if they will try to resign Mason and Heap on the cheap. Can't imagine there are going to be teams starting a bidding ward for either of them.
I doubt they would even think about bringing Mason back. They drafted Smith in the 2nd round and Doss in the 4th round to replace him.
The Ravens are trying to vie for a Super Bowl - no way do they go in *hoping* these draft picks pan out, if they don't sign Mason they'll bring someone else, and if not, they'll be shooting themselves in the foot.
They will still have Boldin and Housh as veteran forces. Again, they need someone who can pull the top off a defense. It was painfully obvious that a deep threat was the glaring need on that team last year.
 
They do need someone to stretch the field. No reason to not bring back Mason as the #3 with a paycut. He can still definitely play.

The rookie WR's will do little to nothing this year. (Even more so than usual) You can hope they make strides to make some sort of contribution by year's end. This year will be a redshirt year for the majority of rookie WR's.

 
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I wonder if they will try to resign Mason and Heap on the cheap. Can't imagine there are going to be teams starting a bidding ward for either of them.
I doubt they would even think about bringing Mason back. They drafted Smith in the 2nd round and Doss in the 4th round to replace him.
The Ravens are trying to vie for a Super Bowl - no way do they go in *hoping* these draft picks pan out, if they don't sign Mason they'll bring someone else, and if not, they'll be shooting themselves in the foot.
They will still have Boldin and Housh as veteran forces. Again, they need someone who can pull the top off a defense. It was painfully obvious that a deep threat was the glaring need on that team last year.
Housh won't be back and Mason has more left.They do need a deep threat obviously.
 
I wonder if they will try to resign Mason and Heap on the cheap. Can't imagine there are going to be teams starting a bidding ward for either of them.
I doubt they would even think about bringing Mason back. They drafted Smith in the 2nd round and Doss in the 4th round to replace him.
He is there #1 WR...why would a very competitive team cut him and roll a couple rookies out there?Mason still has plenty of game left.
Boldin is their #1 and they need somebody who can legitimately stretch the field. Mason can't do that and he isn't half as good as Boldin at this stage of his career. I doubt they bring him back.
I'm not sure what team you were watching last year but Mason is still a very good NFL WR. If there were getting rid of one of those guys for good it would be Housh.
 
I wonder if they will try to resign Mason and Heap on the cheap. Can't imagine there are going to be teams starting a bidding ward for either of them.
I doubt they would even think about bringing Mason back. They drafted Smith in the 2nd round and Doss in the 4th round to replace him.
He is there #1 WR...why would a very competitive team cut him and roll a couple rookies out there?Mason still has plenty of game left.
No he's not. He's nowhere near a WR #1 anymore (See Donald Driver).
 
I wonder if they will try to resign Mason and Heap on the cheap. Can't imagine there are going to be teams starting a bidding ward for either of them.
I doubt they would even think about bringing Mason back. They drafted Smith in the 2nd round and Doss in the 4th round to replace him.
The Ravens are trying to vie for a Super Bowl - no way do they go in *hoping* these draft picks pan out, if they don't sign Mason they'll bring someone else, and if not, they'll be shooting themselves in the foot.
They will still have Boldin and Housh as veteran forces. Again, they need someone who can pull the top off a defense. It was painfully obvious that a deep threat was the glaring need on that team last year.
Housh won't be back and Mason has more left.They do need a deep threat obviously.
Personally, I don't think they need either of Mason or Housh. If Boldin can get a little more room to work underneath because a speedy deep threat is keeping the DBs honest then I think the enter offense benefits. Boldin and Rice will be the primary pass catchers either way.
 
I wonder if they will try to resign Mason and Heap on the cheap. Can't imagine there are going to be teams starting a bidding ward for either of them.
I doubt they would even think about bringing Mason back. They drafted Smith in the 2nd round and Doss in the 4th round to replace him.
The Ravens are trying to vie for a Super Bowl - no way do they go in *hoping* these draft picks pan out, if they don't sign Mason they'll bring someone else, and if not, they'll be shooting themselves in the foot.
They will still have Boldin and Housh as veteran forces. Again, they need someone who can pull the top off a defense. It was painfully obvious that a deep threat was the glaring need on that team last year.
Housh won't be back and Mason has more left.They do need a deep threat obviously.
Personally, I don't think they need either of Mason or Housh. If Boldin can get a little more room to work underneath because a speedy deep threat is keeping the DBs honest then I think the enter offense benefits. Boldin and Rice will be the primary pass catchers either way.
IMO It'd be borderline moronic for a contending team (and little prep time with lockout) not to bring back a veteran that still can play, as their #3 WR.I may be more amendable to seeing what the rookies got with full OTA's, but that's not the case. I think with Mason as your #3, you give the rooks the season to digest the playbook. Maybe they get it by year's end -- and they push Mason aside (doubtful IMO). Year 2, you give them a full OTA & Mason's likely out of the picture.

If Mason desires too much $$, that's on him. He'll quickly find out that the grass won't be greener this offseason and will either have to take what Balt offers or retire.

 
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I'm not sure what team you were watching last year but Mason is still a very good NFL WR. If there were getting rid of one of those guys for good it would be Housh.
Where did I ever say Mason didn't play well last year? I simply pointed out that he is not what that offense needs so long as they have Boldin, who offers the same type of skills only much better. I hope Balt does bring either Mason or Housh back to line up opposite Boldin. I'm a Steeler fan and I don't think it makes them better.
 
IMO It'd be borderline moronic for a contending team (and little prep time with lockout) not to bring back a veteran that still can play, as their #3 WR.

I may be more amendable to seeing what the rookies got with full OTA's, but that's not the case. I think with Mason as your #3, you give the rooks the season to digest the playbook. Maybe they get it by year's end -- and they push Mason aside (doubtful IMO). Year 2, you give them a full OTA & Mason's likely out of the picture.

If Mason desires too much $$, that's on him. He'll quickly find out that the grass won't be greener this offseason and will either have to take what Balt offers or retire.
Mason could easily catch on with another team as a WR2. Some of those teams may in fact be contenders. Why would he be so eager to just sign back on with Balt on the cheap? I just don't see it happening.
 
Regarding Mason, don't you guys see the handwriting on the wall?

They already have a deal all set for Steve Smith Carolina. Just wait til tomorrow and see. :yes:

(no link, I've seen it reported nowhere, I'm just ahead of the curve if I'm right)

 
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I wonder if they will try to resign Mason and Heap on the cheap. Can't imagine there are going to be teams starting a bidding ward for either of them.
I doubt they would even think about bringing Mason back. They drafted Smith in the 2nd round and Doss in the 4th round to replace him.
He is there #1 WR...why would a very competitive team cut him and roll a couple rookies out there?Mason still has plenty of game left.
No he's not. He's nowhere near a WR #1 anymore (See Donald Driver).
I was stating that he is Baltimores WR #1 he was certainly targeted more than Boldin in the second half last year. Here is an experts take
Our view: Great news for the Ravens here. Mason is nearing the twilight of his career, but is still Joe Flacco's primary target. We love him as a high end WR3 who you can get later than some think in fantasy drafts.
 
I wonder if they will try to resign Mason and Heap on the cheap. Can't imagine there are going to be teams starting a bidding ward for either of them.
I doubt they would even think about bringing Mason back. They drafted Smith in the 2nd round and Doss in the 4th round to replace him.
He is there #1 WR...why would a very competitive team cut him and roll a couple rookies out there?Mason still has plenty of game left.
No he's not. He's nowhere near a WR #1 anymore (See Donald Driver).
I was stating that he is Baltimores WR #1 he was certainly targeted more than Boldin in the second half last year. Here is an experts take
Our view: Great news for the Ravens here. Mason is nearing the twilight of his career, but is still Joe Flacco's primary target. We love him as a high end WR3 who you can get later than some think in fantasy drafts.
He's not looking like much of an expert today. Clearly your team is in trouble if Derrick Mason is your leading WR. Oh, and by the way Boldin had trouble beating double coverage. He's better when someone better than him lines up on the other side. Mason is nothing more than a possession WR.
 
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Also, they are doing Heap a favor to release him now and see if he can strike a decent contract on the open market rather than waiting until the end of preseason to let him go.

 
Regarding Mason, don't you guys see the handwriting on the wall?They already have a deal all set for Steve Smith Carolina. Just wait til tomorrow and see. :yes: (no link, I've seen it reported nowhere, I'm just ahead of the curve if I'm right)
....or Sidney Rice
Sidney Rice possibly, but I'll stick with Smith. Rice I think will have more suitors and will want to hear all offers first. I guess my point is for TheWick and others to forget about losing ancient Mason and worrying that a rookie will have to come in. Ozzie Newsome is smarter than that, and knows what he's doing. Trust him.
 
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Regarding Mason, don't you guys see the handwriting on the wall?They already have a deal all set for Steve Smith Carolina. Just wait til tomorrow and see. :yes: (no link, I've seen it reported nowhere, I'm just ahead of the curve if I'm right)
....or Sidney Rice
Sidney Rice possibly, but I'll stick with Smith. Rice I think will have more suitors and will want to hear all offers first. I guess my point is for TheWick and others to forget about losing ancient Mason and worrying that a rookie will have to come in. Ozzie Newsome is smarter than that, and knows what he's doing. Trust him.
That would make a hell of a lot more sense. I'll shut up now.
 
Also, they are doing Heap a favor to release him now and see if he can strike a decent contract on the open market rather than waiting until the end of preseason to let him go.
Heap looks done to me, anyone else?
I don't know why you would say that. He had a solid season last year and added 13/150/1 in two playoff games. He only had 40 receptions during the year but that was due to him missing 3 games + the Raves basically used him as their deep man (he averaged 15 y/c last year which is well over his 11.8 career mark).They must have someone else in mind for this receiving corps to cut heap and Mason. Renegotiating is the usual tack if you want to bring back veterans- cutting them on the first day is more like "we are giving you the best chance to sign elsewhere". I don't think anyone is surprised by McGahee getting cut.
 
Will the Broncos go after McGahee if they can't sign DeAngelo Williams?

Edited to add: That would be good news for Moreno owners, but only delaying the inevitable.

 
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Steve Smith and Zach Miller...come on down...
Steve Smith does make perfect sense. I'm not feeling Miller in Baltimore though. Dickson and Pitta will be just fine. They are obviously clearing cap space for a big more or 2. Adding Nnamdi Asomugha would be a monster move if they can pull it off.
 
Steve Smith and Zach Miller...come on down...
Steve Smith does make perfect sense. I'm not feeling Miller in Baltimore though. Dickson and Pitta will be just fine. They are obviously clearing cap space for a big more or 2. Adding Nnamdi Asomugha would be a monster move if they can pull it off.
I think this is the play Balt is ultimately after, Asomugha. That would be HUGE for a team like them. Asomugha would put them over the top as the best D in the NFL IMO. I don't know if they are going to be able to pull it off but this is why they are clearing space if you ask me.
 
Does the timing suggest a trade is in the works since trades can become official tomorrow morning while FA signings are still later in the week? Obviously Steve Smith is the most obvious possibility, but the timing is interesting.

 
I'm thinking Braylon Edwards or Randy Moss or maybe Lee Evans if released. I don't see them breaking the bank on Rice.
Isn't there more money to spend now? I believe they just saved 18+ million. Plus isn't there something in the new CBA where they have to spend the extra cap instead of pocketing it?
I think they go after Awesome Roy at corner.I think they'll find a cheaper deep threat. [one of the guys above -- Smith trade or perhaps Burress (though that'd be a leap of faith to expect much from him)]
 
Sidney Rice possibly, but I'll stick with Smith. Rice I think will have more suitors and will want to hear all offers first. I guess my point is for TheWick and others to forget about losing ancient Mason and worrying that a rookie will have to come in. Ozzie Newsome is smarter than that, and knows what he's doing. Trust him.
Ozzie Newsome has a pretty lousy track record with WRs...
 
Regarding Mason, don't you guys see the handwriting on the wall?They already have a deal all set for Steve Smith Carolina. Just wait til tomorrow and see. :yes: (no link, I've seen it reported nowhere, I'm just ahead of the curve if I'm right)
....or Sidney Rice
:goodposting: There have been deals made already during the lockout. If you think otherwise, #iwantwhatyouvebeendrinking.
If the deal was done during the lockout it was more likely a trade than a signing. A lot of perliminary stuff might have been negotiated but agents want as much negotiating as competition drives up prices for players.
 

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