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Ravens-Pats Game (1 Viewer)
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Boston
Footballguy
First quarter in the books:
*Mayo looks like he has a chance to be special. He's fast as hell and is always around the ball. Looks like once he gets his hands on the ballcarrier he's going down. He gave Rice a solid hit that removed his helmet.
*Pierre Woods looks good. He's a real big guy with some athleticism. He looks good on the pass rush. If he can make the leap and contribute this year it would be a huge plus.
*Seymour looks like he has a little extra zip.
*If the Pats ever have to play Cassel for an extended period of time I would not be overly confident he could handle it.
*The Pats have been trying to get the ball to Chad Jackson without any success. Not sure who's fault it was but he and Cassel weren't on the same page on an int and looked like they had a few words.
*Kyle Boller actually looks real good. He's made some nice throws.
*Rice looks OK. Nothing special but not out of place.
*Derrick Mason walked off the field with a little limp...I'd be surprised if it was serious.
*Mayo looks like he has a chance to be special. He's fast as hell and is always around the ball. Looks like once he gets his hands on the ballcarrier he's going down. He gave Rice a solid hit that removed his helmet.
*Pierre Woods looks good. He's a real big guy with some athleticism. He looks good on the pass rush. If he can make the leap and contribute this year it would be a huge plus.
*Seymour looks like he has a little extra zip.
*If the Pats ever have to play Cassel for an extended period of time I would not be overly confident he could handle it.
*The Pats have been trying to get the ball to Chad Jackson without any success. Not sure who's fault it was but he and Cassel weren't on the same page on an int and looked like they had a few words.
*Kyle Boller actually looks real good. He's made some nice throws.
*Rice looks OK. Nothing special but not out of place.
*Derrick Mason walked off the field with a little limp...I'd be surprised if it was serious.
Boston
Footballguy
*Cassel only played a quarter. Not sure if was part of the plan or if he got pulled due to a bad performance.
*Pats O line (and offense as a whole) looks awful.
*LaMont Jordan has had a few carries and looks solid.
*I just don't understand why the Pats don't have an experienced QB in a backup role. There would be no downside to that.
*Shawn Crable is a big dude. Just had an int.
*Pats O line (and offense as a whole) looks awful.
*LaMont Jordan has had a few carries and looks solid.
*I just don't understand why the Pats don't have an experienced QB in a backup role. There would be no downside to that.
*Shawn Crable is a big dude. Just had an int.
tombonneau
Footballguy
Ravens are blitzing like crazy for a preseason game which is stunting NE offense so tough to takeaway much from that side of ball for NE.
I will say don't sleep on the Pats D. The popular consensus is old and slow. But these rookies look good. I like Pats as top 3 fantasy D, if not the #1.
I will say don't sleep on the Pats D. The popular consensus is old and slow. But these rookies look good. I like Pats as top 3 fantasy D, if not the #1.
Andy Herron
Footballguy
I don't have the opportunity to see it. I wanna know how Troy Smith looks when he gets in. Please let me know?
Thanks!
Thanks!
nerangers
Footballguy
Thanks for the Updates Boston...can't get the game here (Saints are on). Been following online. Any news on the Aiken and Williams injuries?
WR Sam Aiken, a free-agent signee brought in to primarily help the special teams units, suffered a knee injury and did not return to the game.
S/LB Tank Williams remained on the field after playing on the kickoff coverage team in the second quarter. Trainers tended to him on the field, but he walked off under his own power.
WR Sam Aiken, a free-agent signee brought in to primarily help the special teams units, suffered a knee injury and did not return to the game.
S/LB Tank Williams remained on the field after playing on the kickoff coverage team in the second quarter. Trainers tended to him on the field, but he walked off under his own power.
First snaps were solid. Seems to have a nice connection with Damerien McCants.
Boston
Footballguy
No news other than they have knee injuries. Aiken lloked like he could have an issue. Pollard just hurt his shoulder...wouldn't be surprised if it's more than a nick as it had a little hang to it when he was going off the field.
Boston
Footballguy
He was 1-3 on his series. One real nice pass for a long completion, one bad pass for an incompletion and another pass for an incompletion that was a nicely thrown ball. He really didn't play long enough to get a handle on him.
Andy Herron
Footballguy
Thanks!Keep me posted if it's not too much trouble.
I really feel he's going to be the guy come week 1.
Boston
Footballguy
I'm not a Boller fan but he looked real good going against the Pats first unit (or what's playing of that unit tonight). He looked comfortable and made some real nice veteran throws.Thanks!Keep me posted if it's not too much trouble.I really feel he's going to be the guy come week 1.
obxlegends
Footballguy
Observations...
-Boller looked solid, but still making some of the same mistakes. But better than what I expected.
-Ray Rice did not look bad, but didn't do anything special. Showed good hands.
-Troy Smith add mobility to the offense. A nice dimension Boller doesn't have. However he wasn't as consistent as Boller was.
-McCants looks solid. A deep deep sleeper to follow. Harbaugh brought him in from his days in Philly.
-Boller looked solid, but still making some of the same mistakes. But better than what I expected.
-Ray Rice did not look bad, but didn't do anything special. Showed good hands.
-Troy Smith add mobility to the offense. A nice dimension Boller doesn't have. However he wasn't as consistent as Boller was.
-McCants looks solid. A deep deep sleeper to follow. Harbaugh brought him in from his days in Philly.
Andy Herron
Footballguy
He knows he's under the gun.I'm not a Boller fan but he looked real good going against the Pats first unit (or what's playing of that unit tonight). He looked comfortable and made some real nice veteran throws.Thanks!Keep me posted if it's not too much trouble.I really feel he's going to be the guy come week 1.
NYCGangGreen
Footballguy
Did Antwaan Barnes play on the 2nd or 3rd unit??
Anyone?
Anyone?
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
Lamont Jordan 14 rushes and averaged over 4 yards per carry for the Pats, not bad at all for the first preseason game of the year.
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Jordan ran well. Ran hard "down hill" ... he looked good. I was also impressed with O'Connell's athleticism.
Andy Herron
Footballguy
They seem to be giving him alot of work to see what he's got.
Fantaholic
Footballguy
I know it's pre-season, but I would be totally fine with Lamont starting opening Sunday instead of Flaurence.
Boston
Footballguy
I like what I've seen (especially the fact he looks healthy) but let's remember he's going against backups and guys who are going to get cut.
Fantaholic
Footballguy
It's inevitable as far as I'm concerned. Maroney just doesn't have the make-up of a workhorse. Atleast I've never seen it since we drafted him. I loved the Lamont pick up and think it could turn out to be a brilliant pick up.
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
I underestimated Lamont Jordan last season when it started. He didn't sustain, but he certainly started off very well. With that said, I thought Laurence Maroney finished the season strong. He was finishing his runs and looked to be running hard.
Football Jones
Footballguy
Getting in a groove won't be a problem for Chad Jackson with Brady at QB. I'm as high on Jackson as I've ever been on an unestablished non-rookie. No way Moss will produce like TO as he ages. Moss doesn't have the innate drive TO does, IMO. Plus, TO is a freak of nature (blessed with incredible "fountain of youth" genes).
Bottom line...I see Jackson being their #1 as early as '09 & certainly by '10. He might be the best buy-low (or buy-reasonable) dynasty player in all of FF.
Bottom line...I see Jackson being their #1 as early as '09 & certainly by '10. He might be the best buy-low (or buy-reasonable) dynasty player in all of FF.
Boston
Footballguy
I like the enthusiasm but I've yet to see anything from Jax that shows he can be a decent NFL Wr let alone a #1. The word is he has looked good in camp but there was nothing to be excited about tonight. I'd be very surprised if he puts up better numbers than Gaffney this year.
Fantaholic
Footballguy
Bingo!
Boston
Footballguy
Overall on the plus side...the Pats look like they may have done well in the past draft. Mayo is going to be an impact player, Wheatley looks like he can play, Crable has some real nice size and looks like a solid prospect and O'Connell apears to have some ability. Slater's real fast but he looks like a straight-line runner without much wiggle which I didn't like. I don't think Wilhite was dressed this evening. Also, Pierre Woods had a solid game and could be in the mix in a role similar to Banta-Cain's a few years ago. Hopefuly these youngsters (along with Meriweather) can bring some much needed speed and athleticism to the D.
On the negative side I don't think there's a backup QB on the roster who's ready to play. If Brady were to go down they'd be in huge trouble. Offensively the Pats looked awful in the passing game from the line to the QBs to the wideouts. Chad Jackson was dissapointing and I don't think he was involved in one positive play. The Ravens D played with a lot of intensity and definetly won the battle in the trenches this evening.
...and hopefully CJ Jones is renting on a month-to-month basis as he put in a performance that will land you in another profession real quickly.
On the negative side I don't think there's a backup QB on the roster who's ready to play. If Brady were to go down they'd be in huge trouble. Offensively the Pats looked awful in the passing game from the line to the QBs to the wideouts. Chad Jackson was dissapointing and I don't think he was involved in one positive play. The Ravens D played with a lot of intensity and definetly won the battle in the trenches this evening.
...and hopefully CJ Jones is renting on a month-to-month basis as he put in a performance that will land you in another profession real quickly.
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David Yudkin
Footballguy
I'm still hearing that they are going out of their way to get Chad to win the starting job. I agree Jackson didn't seem in sync with the offense or the QBs, but a couple of the throws seemed behind him or the timing was just off. I'd be more concerned if Brady was the one guiding the team on those drives, and on that line of reasoning with so many other guys in on plays that normally wouldn't be, it's hard to conclude much either way. By that I mean that even if he looked great it was not the base offense with all the regulars, so drawing any conclusions would be a bit misleading either direction.
Boston
Footballguy
While I agree with this in theory what I don't like is how he looked tronight is how he has looked since he has been with the Pats (in the limited time we have seen him) even when Brady's at QB. It just seems like something is missing. I really hope I'm wrong because it only helps the Pats if he pans out but I just don't have much faith in Jackson not traveling down the Bethel Johnson path of unfufilled potential.
Big_Russel
Footballguy
You must be high. Chad Jackson will be lucky to make it out of camp. Dude is a bust.
tombonneau
Footballguy
I agree, Cjax looked like a guy just signed to the team Monday. He's definitely thinking out there too much. Michael Irvin -- of all people -- made a fairly insightful comment on the radio this morning about the development of WRs: he said that if you are breaking from the huddle thinking about what the route is you are supposed to run, you are already done. You should be going to the line thinking "How am I going to beat my man?" That's what good WRs do.Cjax has the look of a guy who is thinking "Ok, now where exactly am I supposed to make my break to the outside?".I really hope he looks better with Brady at QB, but this was not at all encouraging. To put it another way, Ray Ventrone looked like a more natural WR ...
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roadkill1292
Footballguy
Not very many starters played so it was tough to get a grip on these teams but it does appear that the Ratbirds have potentially some very good defensive depth, especially at linebacker.
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
Vinny Testaverde is only a phone call away.
obxlegends
Footballguy
He started.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
I only watched the first couple of series, but I thought Boller did pretty well considering he only had about 3 projected starters on the field with him (& Mason got dinged early on): no McGahee, Gaither, Terry, Heap (or #2 Wilcox), Williams, Clayton, etc....Rice looked pretty good to me considering he had zero holes to run through. I almost had a heart attack when the Ravens actually threw a screen to him (or was that the FB?). Feels like I can count the number I've seen in the last 9 years on one hand. Defense was flying all over the field. I think they blitzed on every play.
I couldn't tell if Cassell or Jackson was more at fault on their blunders. I saw Jackson yelling at the QB as they ran off the field; the ball was waaay behind him but it's hard to tell if he ran the wrong route or Cassell threw a bad pass.
I couldn't tell if Cassell or Jackson was more at fault on their blunders. I saw Jackson yelling at the QB as they ran off the field; the ball was waaay behind him but it's hard to tell if he ran the wrong route or Cassell threw a bad pass.
zadok
Footballguy
Any update on Aiken today?
Tanner9919
Footballguy
its week 1 of preseason, featuring a largely watered down Ravens offense with a depleted O-line, considered by many to be one of the worst lines in the NFL..lets see how Mayo looks against Mangold, D'Brick Ferguson and Faneca, or against some of the better lines - in a regular season game...also, the older,slower NE defenders know how to win a big game in the NFL, lets see Mayo do something special in a big spot before we anoint him as the next Ray Lewis. jeez.
tough to call the Pats defense the #1 overall unit, when they weren't even the #1 unit LAST SEASON with Samuel, Wilson et al.now they have also-ran DB's and a 50-something safety ( Harrison) trying to fill that void..I can only laugh about the NE secondary
Seymour looks great huh? won't be long before he hurts himself like every other season..
David Yudkin
Footballguy
No word yet on him or Tank Williams.
twitch
Footballguy
I cant help but feel the same. I have no faith whatsoever from the reports out of camp of his inconsistency that he'll be anything other than a role player/backup. I just dont think he has the mental make-up of a smart, reliable receiver. To simplify, the idiotic BLONDE dreadlocks he's attached himself to are a dead giveaway. I dont think the kid's real bright.
tombonneau
Footballguy
Ummm, sorry, didn't think using the phrase "rookies look good" qualified as over-the-top hyperbole. But your quote about a 50-year old safety sums up the common perception of the D. As a Pats fan, I was just informing the board (kind of the point of the message board I thought) that so far in camp the rookies and lots of defensive FAs looked better than advertised. In limited preseason play that held up. Worth keeping an eye on, as I think playing with a lead, this defense could be a very good fantasy unit.Tanner9919 said:its week 1 of preseason, featuring a largely watered down Ravens offense with a depleted O-line, considered by many to be one of the worst lines in the NFL..lets see how Mayo looks against Mangold, D'Brick Ferguson and Faneca, or against some of the better lines - in a regular season game...also, the older,slower NE defenders know how to win a big game in the NFL, lets see Mayo do something special in a big spot before we anoint him as the next Ray Lewis. jeez.tough to call the Pats defense the #1 overall unit, when they weren't even the #1 unit LAST SEASON with Samuel, Wilson et al.
now they have also-ran DB's and a 50-something safety ( Harrison) trying to fill that void..I can only laugh about the NE secondary
Seymour looks great huh? won't be long before he hurts himself like every other season..
But hate on!
Boston
Footballguy
Funny you mention the blond dreads. As silly as it sounds I've had a bad feeling about this kid since his first year. Early in his rookie year there were a lot of reports about his immaturity and inability to grasp the Patriot offense as he was off to a slow start (injuries were a factor as well). He caught a TD pass (I believe it was against Buffalo but I could be wrong). The camera shows him on the sideline and as he takes off his helmet he's got this foolish 'do with blue beads that a 13 year would wear. For a guy on a veteran-laden team where rookies typically fall in line it really stood out as the 'do just screamed "hey, look at me." Especially since he was already off to a slow start and there were questions about his maturity.I hope I'm wrong here as it's very obvious he has some legit physical tools. Yet, I really don't have a lot of confidence he's going to be a guy that Brady is going to trust...and if he doesn't trust you you may as well call it a day because you're not going to see the ball too often...especially on a team with weapons like Moss, Welker, Gaffney, Watson, Thomas and Faulk.twitch said:
Was Mayo playing ILB? Is he projected to start this year?
GreekFreak
Footballguy
Put down the crack pipe.
