Rays Fans and Haters of Rays Fans (1 Viewer)

[Norseman]

Would Tampa Bay fans wait out a rainstorm and then still be 46,000 strong at 1:45 am, me thinks no

We wouldn't have to wait out a rainstorm, we planned ahead on that. And we were nearly full at 1:35 am just a couple of weeks ago.

 

[Capella]

Starting to remember again why I hated Philly fans so much.

 

[Norseman]

Starting to remember again why I hated Philly fans so much.

 

[gump]

It's just irritation with the whole topic. The Bucs have sold out every game since 97. The Lightning draw terrific crowds, the Bulls get 50k a game and then a lot of people here spend lots of money supporting the Gators and Noles. Yet all you here about is the Rays. It's annoying.

I just don't think Floridians like professional baseball too much.

Professional baseball has been in the Tampa Bay area for 100 years.

Are you talking about spring training or minors?

Spring Training.Do you think "Floridians" like hockey?

Who cares about spring training? That has nothing to do with this. And plus, how many of those "fans" are out of towners? I know that many people around my way make the trip to Clearwater for the Phils spring training.

Brighthouse Field has a huge season ticket holder base, as does Legends in Tampa...which is obviously locals. The area is also known for it's incredible youth baseball programs. Bottom line is baseball is something people from Tampa Bay play, follow, and support.You ignored by second question about whether you think "Floridians" like hockey?

 

[eoMMan]

It's just irritation with the whole topic. The Bucs have sold out every game since 97. The Lightning draw terrific crowds, the Bulls get 50k a game and then a lot of people here spend lots of money supporting the Gators and Noles. Yet all you here about is the Rays. It's annoying.

I just don't think Floridians like professional baseball too much.

Professional baseball has been in the Tampa Bay area for 100 years.

Are you talking about spring training or minors?

Spring Training.Do you think "Floridians" like hockey?

Who cares about spring training? That has nothing to do with this. And plus, how many of those "fans" are out of towners? I know that many people around my way make the trip to Clearwater for the Phils spring training.

Brighthouse Field has a huge season ticket holder base, as does Legends in Tampa...which is obviously locals. The area is also known for it's incredible youth baseball programs. Bottom line is baseball is something people from Tampa Bay play, follow, and support.You ignored by second question about whether you think "Floridians" like hockey?

No, I didn't.I just don't see how that's relevent. I never said anything about hockey. It doesn't matter to me if people in Florida like hockey or don't.

 

[eoMMan]

It's just irritation with the whole topic. The Bucs have sold out every game since 97. The Lightning draw terrific crowds, the Bulls get 50k a game and then a lot of people here spend lots of money supporting the Gators and Noles.

Yet all you here about is the Rays. It's annoying.

I just don't think Floridians like professional baseball too much.

Professional baseball has been in the Tampa Bay area for 100 years.

Are you talking about spring training or minors?

Spring Training.Do you think "Floridians" like hockey?

Who cares about spring training? That has nothing to do with this. And plus, how many of those "fans" are out of towners? I know that many people around my way make the trip to Clearwater for the Phils spring training.

Brighthouse Field has a huge season ticket holder base, as does Legends in Tampa...which is obviously locals. The area is also known for it's incredible youth baseball programs. Bottom line is baseball is something people from Tampa Bay play, follow, and support.You ignored by second question about whether you think "Floridians" like hockey?

Dude, now you're talking about youth programs?My point was that it just doesn't seem like people living in Florida care enough to support PROFESSIONAL MLB, unless they're winning, of course.

Check this out.....

http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/TBD/attend.shtml

2008 AL East 97-65 AL,1 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,811,986 22,370 12th of 14 27.0/27.5 103/102

2007 AL East 66-96 5 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,387,603 17,131 14th of 14 25.9/26.9 98/100

2006 AL East 61-101 5 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,368,950 16,901 14th of 14 27.3/27.0 99/101

2005 AL East 67-95 5 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,141,669 14,095 14th of 14 27.5/27.4 99/100

2004 AL East 70-91 4 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,274,911 15,936 14th of 14 28.1/27.6 96/98

2003 AL East 63-99 5 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,058,695 13,070 14th of 14 26.2/26.5 95/97

2002 AL East 55-106 5 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,065,742 13,157 14th of 14 27.0/27.0 97/99

2001 AL East 62-100 5 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,298,365 16,029 14th of 14 28.0/26.9 98/100

2000 AL East 69-92 5 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,449,673 18,121 13th of 14 30.1/29.3 99/100

1999 AL East 69-93 5 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,562,827 19,294 10th of 14 30.1/29.3 100/102

1998 AL East 63-99 5 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 2,506,293 30,942 7th of 14 29.1/27.5 101/102

 

[culdeus]

I realize this has little to do with Tampa, but Florida in general possibly.

How can Jacksonville with a straight face say they had 64,775 at that game yesterday? There were at least a dozen tarped sections just from what was seen on TV and each section that wasn't tarped had a noticeable number of empty seats. 35k at the most. Why aren't they considering moving that team to LA and not one of the SanFran teams?

 

[gump]

No, I didn't.I just don't see how that's relevent. I never said anything about hockey. It doesn't matter to me if people in Florida like hockey or don't.

It's relevant because you'd be crazy to think that "Floridians" would support hockey more than baseball. And they support hockey.

 

[gump]

Check this out.....

http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/TBD/attend.shtml

2008 AL East 97-65 AL,1 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,811,986 22,370 12th of 14 27.0/27.5 103/102

2007 AL East 66-96 5 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,387,603 17,131 14th of 14 25.9/26.9 98/100

2006 AL East 61-101 5 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,368,950 16,901 14th of 14 27.3/27.0 99/101

2005 AL East 67-95 5 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,141,669 14,095 14th of 14 27.5/27.4 99/100

2004 AL East 70-91 4 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,274,911 15,936 14th of 14 28.1/27.6 96/98

2003 AL East 63-99 5 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,058,695 13,070 14th of 14 26.2/26.5 95/97

2002 AL East 55-106 5 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,065,742 13,157 14th of 14 27.0/27.0 97/99

2001 AL East 62-100 5 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,298,365 16,029 14th of 14 28.0/26.9 98/100

2000 AL East 69-92 5 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,449,673 18,121 13th of 14 30.1/29.3 99/100

1999 AL East 69-93 5 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,562,827 19,294 10th of 14 30.1/29.3 100/102

1998 AL East 63-99 5 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 2,506,293 30,942 7th of 14 29.1/27.5 101/102

Check this out....1983-1996 Tampa Bay Bucs - averaged 376K fans/year

1997-present Tampa Bay Bucs - averaged 525K fans/year (+ 40 % / year)

**note that in '07 the Bucs moved to a stadium that held 10K less

 

[Capella]

2007 AL East 66-96

2006 AL East 61-101

2005 AL East 67-95

2004 AL East 70-91

2003 AL East 63-99

2002 AL East 55-106

2001 AL East 62-100

2000 AL East 69-92

1999 AL East 69-93

1998 AL East 63-99

Once again, key part in bold. You name me any city, anywhere, that would support that kind of awfulness.

 

[curta269]

2007 AL East 66-96

2006 AL East 61-101

2005 AL East 67-95

2004 AL East 70-91

2003 AL East 63-99

2002 AL East 55-106

2001 AL East 62-100

2000 AL East 69-92

1999 AL East 69-93

1998 AL East 63-99

Once again, key part in bold. You name me any city, anywhere, that would support that kind of awfulness.

None that I can think of, except maybe Packer fans.

 

[eoMMan]

No, I didn't.I just don't see how that's relevent. I never said anything about hockey. It doesn't matter to me if people in Florida like hockey or don't.

It's relevant because you'd be crazy to think that "Floridians" would support hockey more than baseball. And they support hockey.

I am not talking about hockey. My initial comment was on MLB. Please, even if they love ice fishing in Florida, I don't want to talk about it.

 

[eoMMan]

Check this out.....

http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/TBD/attend.shtml

2008 AL East 97-65 AL,1 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,811,986 22,370 12th of 14 27.0/27.5 103/102

2007 AL East 66-96 5 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,387,603 17,131 14th of 14 25.9/26.9 98/100

2006 AL East 61-101 5 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,368,950 16,901 14th of 14 27.3/27.0 99/101

2005 AL East 67-95 5 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,141,669 14,095 14th of 14 27.5/27.4 99/100

2004 AL East 70-91 4 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,274,911 15,936 14th of 14 28.1/27.6 96/98

2003 AL East 63-99 5 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,058,695 13,070 14th of 14 26.2/26.5 95/97

2002 AL East 55-106 5 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,065,742 13,157 14th of 14 27.0/27.0 97/99

2001 AL East 62-100 5 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,298,365 16,029 14th of 14 28.0/26.9 98/100

2000 AL East 69-92 5 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,449,673 18,121 13th of 14 30.1/29.3 99/100

1999 AL East 69-93 5 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,562,827 19,294 10th of 14 30.1/29.3 100/102

1998 AL East 63-99 5 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 2,506,293 30,942 7th of 14 29.1/27.5 101/102

Check this out....1983-1996 Tampa Bay Bucs - averaged 376K fans/year

1997-present Tampa Bay Bucs - averaged 525K fans/year (+ 40 % / year)

**note that in '07 the Bucs moved to a stadium that held 10K less

Great. What does that have to do with MLB in Florida?

 

[eoMMan]

2007 AL East 66-96

2006 AL East 61-101

2005 AL East 67-95

2004 AL East 70-91

2003 AL East 63-99

2002 AL East 55-106

2001 AL East 62-100

2000 AL East 69-92

1999 AL East 69-93

1998 AL East 63-99

Once again, key part in bold. You name me any city, anywhere, that would support that kind of awfulness.

I hear ya, but part of that has to with that division. When you're in the same division as the Yanks and the Red Sox and are up against the type of talent that their payroll can provide, odds are that your record isn't going to be that good. But, yeah, I agree with you that it's hard to support a ####ty team.However, you could also talk about the Marlins. Their attendance has been bad now for years and they had some pretty good teams over the years, including winning the World Series twice.

 

[gump]

Check this out.....

http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/TBD/attend.shtml

2008 AL East 97-65 AL,1 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,811,986 22,370 12th of 14 27.0/27.5 103/102

2007 AL East 66-96 5 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,387,603 17,131 14th of 14 25.9/26.9 98/100

2006 AL East 61-101 5 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,368,950 16,901 14th of 14 27.3/27.0 99/101

2005 AL East 67-95 5 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,141,669 14,095 14th of 14 27.5/27.4 99/100

2004 AL East 70-91 4 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,274,911 15,936 14th of 14 28.1/27.6 96/98

2003 AL East 63-99 5 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,058,695 13,070 14th of 14 26.2/26.5 95/97

2002 AL East 55-106 5 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,065,742 13,157 14th of 14 27.0/27.0 97/99

2001 AL East 62-100 5 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,298,365 16,029 14th of 14 28.0/26.9 98/100

2000 AL East 69-92 5 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,449,673 18,121 13th of 14 30.1/29.3 99/100

1999 AL East 69-93 5 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,562,827 19,294 10th of 14 30.1/29.3 100/102

1998 AL East 63-99 5 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 2,506,293 30,942 7th of 14 29.1/27.5 101/102

Check this out....1983-1996 Tampa Bay Bucs - averaged 376K fans/year

1997-present Tampa Bay Bucs - averaged 525K fans/year (+ 40 % / year)

**note that in '07 the Bucs moved to a stadium that held 10K less

Great. What does that have to do with MLB in Florida?

The Bucs pre-97 had an old logo, a low-spending owner who didn't seem to care about winning, and little talent.The Rays pre-08 had an old logo, a low-spending owner who didn't seem to care about winning, and little talent.

The Bucs post-96 have a new logo, new ownership, and young talent that eventually matured into stardom.

The Rays post-07 have a new logo, new ownership, and young talent that eventually matured into stardom.

They share the same fanbase. The only difference is the Bucs have a new stadium.

No attack meant...but its clear you don't know anything about the situation, other than the past attendance numbers. Not sure why you lobbed your opinion in this thread about the area honestly.

 

[gump]

However, you could also talk about the Marlins. Their attendance has been bad now for years and they had some pretty good teams over the years, including winning the World Series twice.

Not this again.

 

[eoMMan]

Check this out.....

http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/TBD/attend.shtml

2008 AL East 97-65 AL,1 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,811,986 22,370 12th of 14 27.0/27.5 103/102

2007 AL East 66-96 5 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,387,603 17,131 14th of 14 25.9/26.9 98/100

2006 AL East 61-101 5 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,368,950 16,901 14th of 14 27.3/27.0 99/101

2005 AL East 67-95 5 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,141,669 14,095 14th of 14 27.5/27.4 99/100

2004 AL East 70-91 4 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,274,911 15,936 14th of 14 28.1/27.6 96/98

2003 AL East 63-99 5 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,058,695 13,070 14th of 14 26.2/26.5 95/97

2002 AL East 55-106 5 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,065,742 13,157 14th of 14 27.0/27.0 97/99

2001 AL East 62-100 5 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,298,365 16,029 14th of 14 28.0/26.9 98/100

2000 AL East 69-92 5 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,449,673 18,121 13th of 14 30.1/29.3 99/100

1999 AL East 69-93 5 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 1,562,827 19,294 10th of 14 30.1/29.3 100/102

1998 AL East 63-99 5 Tropicana Field (ballparks) 2,506,293 30,942 7th of 14 29.1/27.5 101/102

Check this out....1983-1996 Tampa Bay Bucs - averaged 376K fans/year

1997-present Tampa Bay Bucs - averaged 525K fans/year (+ 40 % / year)

**note that in '07 the Bucs moved to a stadium that held 10K less

Great. What does that have to do with MLB in Florida?

The Bucs pre-97 had an old logo, a low-spending owner who didn't seem to care about winning, and little talent.The Rays pre-08 had an old logo, a low-spending owner who didn't seem to care about winning, and little talent.

The Bucs post-96 have a new logo, new ownership, and young talent that eventually matured into stardom.

The Rays post-07 have a new logo, new ownership, and young talent that eventually matured into stardom.

They share the same fanbase. The only difference is the Bucs have a new stadium.

No attack meant...but its clear you don't know anything about the situation, other than the past attendance numbers. Not sure why you lobbed your opinion in this thread about the area honestly.

No attack taken, but seriously, it's a totally different sport. I understand that it might have a similar situation but it's still a different sport. Football of all kinds is HUGE in Florida. Like I said, my comment was on MLB in Florida and you went off on a tangent about other sports.FWIW, this is the baseball forum.