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RB Antonio Gibson, NE (3 Viewers)

Any thoughts on this guy headed into free agency? He was a hot item at one point in his career. Is he limited in skill or did Washington just not find a way to use him correctly? Seems like he would be a great McKinnon replacement in KC IMO.
I'm not expecting him to be considered a top-10 FA RB option, but he could make it into a 3rd down role somewhere, but more as a candidate than someone who is handed a job.

Kinda expecting something like a 1 year 2 million type flier.
 
I'm not expecting him to be considered a top-10 FA RB option, but he could make it into a 3rd down role somewhere, but more as a candidate than someone who is handed a job.

Kinda expecting something like a 1 year 2 million type flier.
This sounds reasonable.

His reputation as a fumbler might cost him though - could be a contract like that, but with 1/3 of it incentive-based.
 
NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport reports the Patriots and Antonio Gibson have agreed to a contract.
Gibson totaled 3,926 yards from scrimmage and 29 touchdowns during his four years in Washington and rushed for a career-best 258-1037-7 in 2021. A former receiver turned running back, Gibson never fully amounted to the dual-threat back fantasy managers hoped to see when the Commanders selected him in the third round of the 2020 NFL Draft. Now with the Patriots, Gibson will compete with Rhamondre Stevenson for touches but could at least earn a third-down role after averaging an efficient 8.1 yards per reception last season.
 
LOVE LOVE LOVE this spot for him! His strength has always been getting the ball in space and getting touches in the passing game, and it's not like the Pats have a ton of great receivers on the team. Add a likely rookie QB and lots of dumps offs...Buy Mortimer, BUY!!!
 
LOVE LOVE LOVE this spot for him! His strength has always been getting the ball in space and getting touches in the passing game, and it's not like the Pats have a ton of great receivers on the team. Add a likely rookie QB and lots of dumps offs...Buy Mortimer, BUY!!!
He’s still a fumbler though.

I see him as a COP with Stevenson getting the lion’s share of touches.

I’d hold off on buying just yet.

I could be off…we’ll see.
 
Am I the only one getting Kevin Faulk/James White sort of vibes in that he may turn into a viable PPR flex play?
If BB was still the coach.

He was the last few years and that type of RB was MIA for some reason.
Stevenson had 69 receptions two seasons ago and was on pace for 55 last year before he got hurt. IMO, it's impossible to tell what NE will do and how to project individual players until we see what the roster looks like. That being said, I don't see Gibson having more receptions than Stevenson, and I don't see them throwing the ball 100+ times to the two of them.
 
Am I the only one getting Kevin Faulk/James White sort of vibes in that he may turn into a viable PPR flex play?
If BB was still the coach.

He was the last few years and that type of RB was MIA for some reason.
Stevenson had 69 receptions two seasons ago and was on pace for 55 last year before he got hurt. IMO, it's impossible to tell what NE will do and how to project individual players until we see what the roster looks like. That being said, I don't see Gibson having more receptions than Stevenson, and I don't see them throwing the ball 100+ times to the two of them.

There was no other RBs to catch the ball that year…I would be surprised that after targeting Gibson right away that he does not lead the RB-room in receptions…Stevenson will easily lead it in rushing and I think they would really like to keep him healthy for 17 games.
 
Am I the only one getting Kevin Faulk/James White sort of vibes in that he may turn into a viable PPR flex play?
If BB was still the coach.

He was the last few years and that type of RB was MIA for some reason.
Stevenson had 69 receptions two seasons ago and was on pace for 55 last year before he got hurt. IMO, it's impossible to tell what NE will do and how to project individual players until we see what the roster looks like. That being said, I don't see Gibson having more receptions than Stevenson, and I don't see them throwing the ball 100+ times to the two of them.

There was no other RBs to catch the ball that year…I would be surprised that after targeting Gibson right away that he does not lead the RB-room in receptions…Stevenson will easily lead it in rushing and I think they would really like to keep him healthy for 17 games.
I think we need to ignore the NE tendencies when BB was there and focus on what Van Pelt has done. In 4 years as OC in CLE, the RB leader in receptions had 44, 35, 22, and 38 receptions. In 2 seasons as the RB Coach in GB, the RB leader in receptions had 35 and 18. As the OC for one season in BUF, the team leader in RB receptions was 46. IMO, that may not be relevant . . . but I would proffer that that would be more relevant than whatever James White or Kevin Faulk did.
 
Am I the only one getting Kevin Faulk/James White sort of vibes in that he may turn into a viable PPR flex play?
If BB was still the coach.

He was the last few years and that type of RB was MIA for some reason.
Stevenson had 69 receptions two seasons ago and was on pace for 55 last year before he got hurt. IMO, it's impossible to tell what NE will do and how to project individual players until we see what the roster looks like. That being said, I don't see Gibson having more receptions than Stevenson, and I don't see them throwing the ball 100+ times to the two of them.

There was no other RBs to catch the ball that year…I would be surprised that after targeting Gibson right away that he does not lead the RB-room in receptions…Stevenson will easily lead it in rushing and I think they would really like to keep him healthy for 17 games.
I think we need to ignore the NE tendencies when BB was there and focus on what Van Pelt has done. In 4 years as OC in CLE, the RB leader in receptions had 44, 35, 22, and 38 receptions. In 2 seasons as the RB Coach in GB, the RB leader in receptions had 35 and 18. As the OC for one season in BUF, the team leader in RB receptions was 46. IMO, that may not be relevant . . . but I would proffer that that would be more relevant than whatever James White or Kevin Faulk did.
That’s exactly my point above.
 
Am I the only one getting Kevin Faulk/James White sort of vibes in that he may turn into a viable PPR flex play?
If BB was still the coach.

He was the last few years and that type of RB was MIA for some reason.
Stevenson had 69 receptions two seasons ago and was on pace for 55 last year before he got hurt. IMO, it's impossible to tell what NE will do and how to project individual players until we see what the roster looks like. That being said, I don't see Gibson having more receptions than Stevenson, and I don't see them throwing the ball 100+ times to the two of them.

There was no other RBs to catch the ball that year…I would be surprised that after targeting Gibson right away that he does not lead the RB-room in receptions…Stevenson will easily lead it in rushing and I think they would really like to keep him healthy for 17 games.
I think we need to ignore the NE tendencies when BB was there and focus on what Van Pelt has done. In 4 years as OC in CLE, the RB leader in receptions had 44, 35, 22, and 38 receptions. In 2 seasons as the RB Coach in GB, the RB leader in receptions had 35 and 18. As the OC for one season in BUF, the team leader in RB receptions was 46. IMO, that may not be relevant . . . but I would proffer that that would be more relevant than whatever James White or Kevin Faulk did.

That has zero to do with why I think that...BB is long gone already...it is based on the player's skill-set and the Pats targeting him.
 
That has zero to do with why I think that...BB is long gone already...it is based on the player's skill-set and the Pats targeting him.
Who knows why they ended up with him. I'm guessing they didn't want to pony up bigger dollars for the other backs. Gibson might have been one of the few guys that would agree to come to NE. Maybe he was attractive because he was cheaper. I would read much into some of the early signings.

The Patriots are re-signing offensive lineman Mike Onwenu. It’s a three-year contract worth $57 million with $38 million guaranteed and a $22.5 million signing bonus, NFL Media reported.
 
That has zero to do with why I think that...BB is long gone already...it is based on the player's skill-set and the Pats targeting him.
I saw it as they weren’t gonna re-sign Zeke, and Gibson was affordable. :shrug:

Bottomline was they were adding to this position...they had no choice because they only had one viable RB...this was a day one signing and not a second wave signing which is why I think they have a plan in place for him...that could change with what else they add but I fully expect him to be pretty involved in the passing game.
 
That has zero to do with why I think that...BB is long gone already...it is based on the player's skill-set and the Pats targeting him.
I saw it as they weren’t gonna re-sign Zeke, and Gibson was affordable. :shrug:

Bottomline was they were adding to this position...they had no choice because they only had one viable RB...this was a day one signing and not a second wave signing which is why I think they have a plan in place for him...that could change with what else they add but I fully expect him to be pretty involved in the passing game.
Well, they don’t exactly have a plethora of talented receivers, so it’s a sensible take.
 
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Antonio Gibson says “I love it” when asked about lining up all over the formation for the #Patriots offense, adding “I was born for this” and that he must continue to earn trust from the coaches
 
Justin Macmahan
I don’t know who needs to hear this, but Antonio Gibson is 26 years old, 6’2” and 228 lbs.

He’s younger and bigger than Rhamondre Stevenson. Many people treat him like he’s a pure scatback and doesn’t have true handcuff upside. I encourage you not to be one of those people

2024-08-13
 
Justin Macmahan
I don’t know who needs to hear this, but Antonio Gibson is 26 years old, 6’2” and 228 lbs.

He’s younger and bigger than Rhamondre Stevenson. Many people treat him like he’s a pure scatback and doesn’t have true handcuff upside. I encourage you not to be one of those people

2024-08-13
Hilarious spin by that Macmahan person.

“He’s younger and bigger than Rhamondre Stevenson” he’s a whole 4 months younger and 1 lb heavier, wow big difference! Also this guy added two inches to his height, Gibson is 6’0” not 6’2”. Meanwhile the Pats just made Stevenson the sixth highest paid RB in the NFL. I think it’s clear who they prefer.
 
Justin Macmahan
I don’t know who needs to hear this, but Antonio Gibson is 26 years old, 6’2” and 228 lbs.

He’s younger and bigger than Rhamondre Stevenson. Many people treat him like he’s a pure scatback and doesn’t have true handcuff upside. I encourage you not to be one of those people

2024-08-13
Hilarious spin by that Macmahan person.

“He’s younger and bigger than Rhamondre Stevenson” he’s a whole 4 months younger and 1 lb heavier, wow big difference! Also this guy added two inches to his height, Gibson is 6’0” not 6’2”. Meanwhile the Pats just made Stevenson the sixth highest paid RB in the NFL. I think it’s clear who they prefer.
Yes, but isn't the Pat's OC the same one Gidson had when he had his best season playing for Washington? I think people may be underestimating Gibson. The talent is still there and I would not be surprised if he gets a bigger share than people think he's going to get. If I had Stevenson I would definitely be looking to get him as well.
 
Justin Macmahan
I don’t know who needs to hear this, but Antonio Gibson is 26 years old, 6’2” and 228 lbs.

He’s younger and bigger than Rhamondre Stevenson. Many people treat him like he’s a pure scatback and doesn’t have true handcuff upside. I encourage you not to be one of those people

2024-08-13
Hilarious spin by that Macmahan person.

“He’s younger and bigger than Rhamondre Stevenson” he’s a whole 4 months younger and 1 lb heavier, wow big difference! Also this guy added two inches to his height, Gibson is 6’0” not 6’2”. Meanwhile the Pats just made Stevenson the sixth highest paid RB in the NFL. I think it’s clear who they prefer.
Yes, but isn't the Pat's OC the same one Gidson had when he had his best season playing for Washington? I think people may be underestimating Gibson. The talent is still there and I would not be surprised if he gets a bigger share than people think he's going to get. If I had Stevenson I would definitely be looking to get him as well.

Alex Van Pelt is the Pats OC...he has never coached Gibson.
 
Justin Macmahan
I don’t know who needs to hear this, but Antonio Gibson is 26 years old, 6’2” and 228 lbs.

He’s younger and bigger than Rhamondre Stevenson. Many people treat him like he’s a pure scatback and doesn’t have true handcuff upside. I encourage you not to be one of those people

2024-08-13
Hilarious spin by that Macmahan person.

“He’s younger and bigger than Rhamondre Stevenson” he’s a whole 4 months younger and 1 lb heavier, wow big difference! Also this guy added two inches to his height, Gibson is 6’0” not 6’2”. Meanwhile the Pats just made Stevenson the sixth highest paid RB in the NFL. I think it’s clear who they prefer.
Yes, but isn't the Pat's OC the same one Gidson had when he had his best season playing for Washington? I think people may be underestimating Gibson. The talent is still there and I would not be surprised if he gets a bigger share than people think he's going to get. If I had Stevenson I would definitely be looking to get him as well.
I think you're thinking of Scott Turner, who may have been a candidate for the open OC position but was passed over for Alex Van Pelt.
 
[Reiss] Jerod Mayo says it is “definitely under consider” that RB Antonio Gibson starts over Rhamondre Stevenson on Sunday after Stevenson has fumbled in each of the first four games.

 
Even with Stevenson appearing to have been pulled for a while for fumbling, he outsnapped Gibson 35 to 22. However, the Pats had 64 plays on offense, so neither one was in the game consistently. Even if they start Gibson, I think it will be more of a slap on the wrist to Stevenson than anything else. I would not expect Gibson to inherit a huge workload and have Rhamondre take a back seat. If they "start" Gibson, maybe he plays the first series and then they go back to normal.
 
The other thing I find problematic in this story is the media has run with it and expanded beyond the initial scope of what Mayo said. A reporter asked if he considered starting Gibson over Stevenson. Mayo said he had, and he has had multiple talks with Rhamondre about ball security. He went on to say that RS is such a huge piece of the offense. But he also said it's difficult to preach ball security to everyone else on the team and making that a point of emphasis while ignoring it when Stephenson has been the one coughing up the ball.

However, that's now getting reported that the Pats are considering benching Stevenson. From the clips that I heard, I don't recall Mayo mentioning or hinting at benching him, only some talk of Gibson starting and getting a bigger piece of the workload. That's one of the many reasons I take media reports with a grain of salt. Fantasy and sports sites survive on clicks and hot takes, and they often make their own narrative.
 
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, on Patriots All-Access regarding his plans at RB on Sunday: “Had a conversation with Rhamondre [Stevenson] and he won’t be starting … I’ll be upfront and transparent. But he will play. And he understands he has to protect the football going forward
 
It’s clear Mayo likes Rhamondre as the lead back, but Gibson has all the right tools to carve out a more prominent role in this offense. He’s been used to bailing out bad teams with his pass catching ability, it’s yet to be seen how the backfield will interface with the change to Drake Maye but these next few weeks will be interesting to watch.

Also, I had no idea Gibson was only 26. Could’ve sworn he was a few years older.
 

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