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RB Kenneth Walker III - SEA (34 Viewers)

Sides have been taken in the Walker and Charbs conversation. It's been a solid debate. When I watched the last game, my opinion hasn't changed. My eyes tell me Walker is clearly a better talent and simply a better RB. The NFL changes quickly and I'm not saying it couldn't change, but I doubt it.
 
Seahawks HC Pete Carroll said RB Kenneth Walker (questionable, shoulder) is expected to play in Week 16.

Walker emerged from the team’s week 15 game against the Eagles with a shoulder injury, which prevented him from practicing on Wednesday and Thursday this week. Carroll said he expects their lead back to be able to play on Sunday against the Titans after a limited session on Friday. Fantasy managers will want to confirm Walker’s status 90 minutes prior to their 1 ET kickoff.
 
He has a great matchup but this is why we love FF. The uncertainty. You have to swing your sword sometimes to win the "ship". He has not done much lately but last week but looked good against a tougher run defense. The Titans also hurting overall on defense which could mean a pass game script. He to me is boom or bust. And currently in my lineup.
 
Man that Titans defense is banged up, the biggest one being Simmons is out. He’s in position to smash here if he’s not limited.
 
This dude is always hurt. Yeah, I’m a bit worried due to my semifinal matchup. Hope he plays and plays well.

if you're like me you're only here in the semifinals because of his week15 performance

hope he's healthy for week16
Well I was super happy with his performance. However, I was up big before his game. So, no he did not help me win last week or make it to the playoffs. I would appreciate him helping me get to the Championship and win it though.
 
Been gone for a bit.....anyone still claiming this as a timeshare?

We knew the stretch was going to be tough for Walker. Still way better than Charbs.
 
Any homer news on his week 17 status. His a late game start which is tough for us who have to roll with options that start earlier
 
Any homer news on his week 17 status. His a late game start which is tough for us who have to roll with options that start earlier

I'm stuck in the same situation. I follow Seattle news closely each week as a Seahawk fan. My guess is he plays and produces, but I'm not confident in that assessment.
 
Seahawks head coach Mike Macdonald said the team would emphasize the run in 2024.

Macdonald, who hired former Washington Huskies offensive coordinator Ryan Ryan Grubb as Seattle’s OC, said the team would stress controlling the ball and maximizing time of possession in 2024. “We’re going to be a physical unit, we’re gonna run the football, and we want to have answers for the quarterback and we want to keep it consistent for him so he can play fast and play decisive and get the ball to our playmakers,” Macdonald said. “I know that’s kind of coach speak. But it needs to be an efficient unit, we want to be able to possess the ball, we want to be able to obviously be explosive and not turn the ball over. And I think that’s going to come through run and play action on early downs.” It’s a decidedly old-school approach that may or may not come to fruition, and it’s no surprise Macdonald preaches the run game considering his defensive background. Ken Walker would presumably be the primary beneficiary of a run-first Seattle offense, though he could split the workload with second-year back Zach Charbonnet.
 
Struggling to separate Walker and James Cook.

RE: Walker
Will only be 24 this year.
15 games, 219 rushes, 905 yards, 8 touchdowns. 29 receptions, 259 yards, 1 touchdown

Extrapolated over 17 games: 248 rush, 1026 yards, 9 touchdowns, 33 receptions 294 yards, 1 touchdown

I don't feel fired up about Seattle's offense or anything, but they finished 17th in PPG. He'll probably continue to get the bulk of the GL stuff, but Charbonnet may take enough of them to cap his TD upside.

Charbonnet had more receptions than Walker last year. And I assume they'll try to get more use out of him. Again, limiting Walker's upside.

Accounting for the Charbonnet effect, Projecting something along the lines of:

225 rushes, 990 yards, 8 touchdowns
34 receptions, 255 yards, 1 touchdowns

I think the Bills probably cut back Cook's work load. Between Ray Davis and Josh Allen, I don't think he'll see a ton of goal line work. But he should break a few long touchdowns. Maybe he gets a couple TD's inside the 5. He should get most of the receiving work, but Ray Davis is solid in that area as well. I don't think Josh Allen is going to have an 80 catch running back. I could see Cook in the 50's.

Buffalo has the better offense and the better O-Line. I think Cook has an easier path to yardage and receptions.
Walker has an easier path to touchdowns.

It's a coin flip. I think I'd rather take my chances that Cook breaks some long TD's and maybe they give him a few GL looks when they're hurrying up.
 
Between Walker and Charb, it seems the Seahawks offense looked much better when Walker was healthy.

However, we have a new coaching staff, does anyone know how they're being used? Any locals wanna chime in who have been paying attention?

Which one am I gonna draft? There's a lot of unknowns at the moment, it depends on how cheap I can get 'em.
 
I am the CEO of the Walker fan club, but even I will say I am concerned more this year than last.
New coaching staff as well as a solid backup have me looking at other options.
I was far more confident last year.
 
Between Walker and Charb, it seems the Seahawks offense looked much better when Walker was healthy.

However, we have a new coaching staff, does anyone know how they're being used? Any locals wanna chime in who have been paying attention?

Which one am I gonna draft? There's a lot of unknowns at the moment, it depends on how cheap I can get 'em.
In a dynasty ppr 1qb league where I needed Walker as my RB2 I traded him, Goff and the 2.04 for Anthony Richardson and Flowers. It just may bite me in the arse, but what the heck.....
 
Between Walker and Charb, it seems the Seahawks offense looked much better when Walker was healthy.

However, we have a new coaching staff, does anyone know how they're being used? Any locals wanna chime in who have been paying attention?

Which one am I gonna draft? There's a lot of unknowns at the moment, it depends on how cheap I can get 'em.
In a dynasty ppr 1qb league where I needed Walker as my RB2 I traded him, Goff and the 2.04 for Anthony Richardson and Flowers. It just may bite me in the arse, but what the heck.....
Love Richardson. Trying very hard to buy him right now, with no luck yet.

Congrats. At the end of the day this fake football game we play should be fun, get your guys and enjoy.
 
I am the CEO of the Walker fan club, but even I will say I am concerned more this year than last.
New coaching staff as well as a solid backup have me looking at other options.
I was far more confident last year.
Feel the same way. It was pretty easy to see Walker was RB1 and would handle most of the work when healthy under Pete. I don't know what this will look like under a new HC and new offense.
 
@32BeatWriters
“Kenneth Walker III was the star of Monday’s practice, the first one in full pads, and it reflected the sort of spring and summer he’s had. To the new staff, he looks like the kind of back you can play on all three downs, and build a running game around. And Zach Charbonnet gives the team some depth behind him.”
 
@32BeatWriters
“Kenneth Walker III was the star of Monday’s practice, the first one in full pads, and it reflected the sort of spring and summer he’s had. To the new staff, he looks like the kind of back you can play on all three downs, and build a running game around. And Zach Charbonnet gives the team some depth behind him.”
Oh boy. Maybe I need to get back on the train.
 
Last year's Walker vs Charbs conversation was silly. Just watching Walker run the football, the dude is elite. Love this guy. The Seahawks new offense scheme will be interesting to watch. College coaches don't always translate but comments from players seem decent. I'd expect them to pass more and run a little less, but the deep passing emphasis should open up run a bit. I think. Walkers ADP seems nice to invest in.
 
Last year's Walker vs Charbs conversation was silly
Don't think anything about it was silly at all. Really different Rb's with similar draft capital who each bring different skill sets to the table. Felt it was a very legit conversation.

Just listened to a podcast a few days ago, Nate Tice and Matt Harmon, where Tice is predicting Charbs unseats Walker and makes Walker a 30% type guy so the discourse has not stopped. I don't agree with him fwiw, but I can't say I'm not totally unconcerned about Charbs taking on a bigger role either.
 
Last year's Walker vs Charbs conversation was silly
Don't think anything about it was silly at all. Really different Rb's with similar draft capital who each bring different skill sets to the table. Felt it was a very legit conversation.

Just listened to a podcast a few days ago, Nate Tice and Matt Harmon, where Tice is predicting Charbs unseats Walker and makes Walker a 30% type guy so the discourse has not stopped. I don't agree with him fwiw, but I can't say I'm not totally unconcerned about Charbs taking on a bigger role either.
Maybe not silly, but in my opinion, if you watch 10 minutes of film on each guy you CLEARLY have one that is a superior runner. I felt comparing the two was silly, er, not close in regards to running the actual football. Now. Today's NFL RB usage is different and you need a couple guys These two are a great compliment. Walker 1A. Charbs 2A. In regards to anything I read that Charbs is gonna take 1A from a healthy Walker? Smh. Ha ha
 
Last year's Walker vs Charbs conversation was silly
Don't think anything about it was silly at all. Really different Rb's with similar draft capital who each bring different skill sets to the table. Felt it was a very legit conversation.

Just listened to a podcast a few days ago, Nate Tice and Matt Harmon, where Tice is predicting Charbs unseats Walker and makes Walker a 30% type guy so the discourse has not stopped. I don't agree with him fwiw, but I can't say I'm not totally unconcerned about Charbs taking on a bigger role either.
I'm not sure I would use the word "silly", but it was obvious who the better RB was and is.
Charbs was nothing more than insurance.
 
Also:

While there was speculation that Zach Charbonnet might challenge Ken Walker III's position, it appears Walker is poised for a career-best season. Coach Macdonald remarked, "Every time we review the roster, [RB Coach] Kennedy [Polamalu] hints, 'Let's feed this guy [Walker], he can be special.'" Sports Illustrated’s Albert Breer, during his recent camp visit, noted, “Ken Walker III was the star of Monday’s practice, the first one in full pads, reflecting the impressive spring and summer he’s had. The new staff sees him as a back you can rely on for all three downs and build a running game around.”
 
The Coachspeak Index
#Seahawks OC Ryan Grubb on Kenneth Walker:

“I think he gets better every single day. I think the sky’s the limit for him. I think he’s a really, really talented, powerful back that’s a true three-tool guy… He’s electric out of the backfield as a pass-catcher.”
 
Last year's Walker vs Charbs conversation was silly
Don't think anything about it was silly at all. Really different Rb's with similar draft capital who each bring different skill sets to the table. Felt it was a very legit conversation.

Just listened to a podcast a few days ago, Nate Tice and Matt Harmon, where Tice is predicting Charbs unseats Walker and makes Walker a 30% type guy so the discourse has not stopped. I don't agree with him fwiw, but I can't say I'm not totally unconcerned about Charbs taking on a bigger role either.
Maybe not silly, but in my opinion, if you watch 10 minutes of film on each guy you CLEARLY have one that is a superior runner. I felt comparing the two was silly, er, not close in regards to running the actual football. Now. Today's NFL RB usage is different and you need a couple guys These two are a great compliment. Walker 1A. Charbs 2A. In regards to anything I read that Charbs is gonna take 1A from a healthy Walker? Smh. Ha ha
its even more clear cut if you see them live. There are simply things Walker does that Charb cannot. (or at least so far has not shown he can match). that said, Charb is still young. and has better days ahead, but Walker is also fairly young too. so it makes for an interesting debate. personally I'd take Walker on my team and be happy to have him at his ADP right now.
 
@DannyBKelly
some pretty big buzz for Kenneth Walker the last week or so from a couple big reporters at Seahawks camp. One from @AlbertBreer and another from @JFowlerESPN. these notes confirm my priors
 
I feel like I’m higher than consensus on Walker. Feel like he can be a top 10 RB this season. He was RB5 in fantasy through Week 10 last year, then got injured in the 1st quarter at the Rams and missed most of that game and the following two games as well. Returned for Weeks 14-18 to face the run defense schedule from hell and finished RB19 in that 5-game stretch. In redraft he was a definite sell with people knowing that schedule was looming come fantasy playoff time.

Not sure what the schedule looks like for this year, but I really like Walker’s potential. Not worried about Charbonnet either. Every team needs a quality backup. Their offensive line is still a question mark though, and that might limit his ceiling for this season.
 
@DannyBKelly
some pretty big buzz for Kenneth Walker the last week or so from a couple big reporters at Seahawks camp. One from @AlbertBreer and another from @JFowlerESPN. these notes confirm my priors
Tracks. I asked another Seattle beat writer the other day for news on the RB's in a chat the other day, he had just wrote an article that did not mention and like most of his previous articles on camp little to nothing on the RB's. I told him he owed it to fantasy people to tell us what was up with the RB's. He replied. Could not have been more definitive with what he told me/us to do.
 
Last year's Walker vs Charbs conversation was silly
Don't think anything about it was silly at all. Really different Rb's with similar draft capital who each bring different skill sets to the table. Felt it was a very legit conversation.

Just listened to a podcast a few days ago, Nate Tice and Matt Harmon, where Tice is predicting Charbs unseats Walker and makes Walker a 30% type guy so the discourse has not stopped. I don't agree with him fwiw, but I can't say I'm not totally unconcerned about Charbs taking on a bigger role either.
Maybe not silly, but in my opinion, if you watch 10 minutes of film on each guy you CLEARLY have one that is a superior runner. I felt comparing the two was silly, er, not close in regards to running the actual football. Now. Today's NFL RB usage is different and you need a couple guys These two are a great compliment. Walker 1A. Charbs 2A. In regards to anything I read that Charbs is gonna take 1A from a healthy Walker? Smh. Ha ha
that said, Charb is still young. and has better days ahead, but Walker is also fairly young too. so it makes for an interesting debate.

Walker is only 3 months older than charbs. They are basically the same age. 23. Walker turns 24 in October . Charbs 24 in January
 
I avoided Coleman and took McConky over him twice in the mid first, but there has to be a reason Buffalo invested that draft capital.
Dez Bryant was an outstanding PR in college.

Walker is one of my favorite zero RB targets

At what round do you have to pick your first RB to follow the zero RB strategy?
Walker goes 3rd or 4th, and that doesn't seem like "zero RB" to me, although perhaps I don't understand that system.
 
I avoided Coleman and took McConky over him twice in the mid first, but there has to be a reason Buffalo invested that draft capital.
Dez Bryant was an outstanding PR in college.

Walker is one of my favorite zero RB targets

At what round do you have to pick your first RB to follow the zero RB strategy?
Walker goes 3rd or 4th, and that doesn't seem like "zero RB" to me, although perhaps I don't understand that system.
So many drafts are now WR heavy. I think that’s just a normal draft. Doesn’t really matter what you call it though.
 
I avoided Coleman and took McConky over him twice in the mid first, but there has to be a reason Buffalo invested that draft capital.
Dez Bryant was an outstanding PR in college.

Walker is one of my favorite zero RB targets

At what round do you have to pick your first RB to follow the zero RB strategy?
Walker goes 3rd or 4th, and that doesn't seem like "zero RB" to me, although perhaps I don't understand that system.
Yeah I’m not sure Walker qualifies under zero RB, maybe for hero RB (where you only take one RB in the early rounds). But in zero RB you avoid RB in the first five rounds to load up at other positions first and then go RB heavy later on hoping to hit on a few of them.
 
Walker goes 3rd or 4th, and that doesn't seem like "zero RB" to me, although perhaps I don't understand that system.
In FFPC redraft leagues I've been seeing him go in the late 5th into the mid 6th and has a current ADP of 6.1 and RB17. In this format by the time he's been picked we've seen 5 QB's, 9 TE's, and 30 WR's go on average.

I don't mind starting my draft off WR heavy but I'm pretty far from a zero RB drafter so don't what constitutes that but my guess is he'd be in what some people refer to as the "dead RB zone".
 
Is Charbs a threat at all or just a handcuff at this point?
I think just a handcuff+. He's an annoying piece to have on your roster if you don't have Walker IMO. But he's probably one of the better handcuffs.
so... hope KW3 doesn't get hurt, wait until weeks 3-4 when Charbs is getting little, then try to trade for him... well, that's my plan since a leaguemate wants 2025 1st for him, but I don't want to pay that, not yet at least.
 
Is Charbs a threat at all or just a handcuff at this point?
I think just a handcuff+. He's an annoying piece to have on your roster if you don't have Walker IMO. But he's probably one of the better handcuffs.
so... hope KW3 doesn't get hurt, wait until weeks 3-4 when Charbs is getting little, then try to trade for him... well, that's my plan since a leaguemate wants 2025 1st for him, but I don't want to pay that, not yet at least.
Did that in both of my Walker leagues last year. Gave Dotson in one league and in a one start QB league gave Watson(who was my QB3) and Ced Tillman for him. Pretty cheap in both cases, which it needed to be since I was never that high on Charbs but even I consider him a plus handcuff. Feels good having them both locked up.
 
Charbs has always been the handcuff. Not sure why the continued "he's the pass catching back" "he's a better pass blocker" etc talk keeps going.

It's obvious K9 is the better player. I said it last year, he is one of the better RB's in football. The O-Line had a lot to do with his numbers.
Not sure it's much better this year to be honest.
 

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