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semaj33
bloodwashed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCo_oAglu48
I know it was the 3rd quarter in a preseason game...but has everyone all but forgotten the Preseason Hype Machine known as James Davis?
Calling all Cleveland Homers....
I know it was the 3rd quarter in a preseason game...but has everyone all but forgotten the Preseason Hype Machine known as James Davis?
Calling all Cleveland Homers....
MAC_32
Footballguy
I think he's a great #3 RB that could be adequate if injury/ineffectiveness gets the top guys on the depth chart...assuming he's healed from surgery. If he proves himself the front office may feel good enough to let Harrison walk after the season and go into 2011 with Hardesty and Davis shouldering the load.I also think the hype for this guy was unjustified and at times bordering on lunacy last August.
semaj33
bloodwashed
He did start over Spiller for 3 years....but in fantasy land its hard playing Pitt & Baltimore twice a year...Good thoughts though...thanks...
MAC_32
Footballguy
He didn't really start over him, they shared duties because Davis is significantly better between the tackles and Spiller's more of an in-space play maker.
WisWolvrns
Footballguy
Hardesty has an injury prone question mark... wonder how that will work out during the rookie "no pads" vs veterans with pads gauntlet as happened last pre-season with Davis... hmm...
You can't ever discount any player on an NFL roster from making an impact; however, Davis was a 6th round pick vs. 3rd round pedigree for Hardesty. Add in the fact that Davis is rehabbing an injury, and he was a pick of the "old regime" vs. being a Holmgren pick that they traded up for, and you have Davis behind the eight ball for winning the starting job or even meaningful carries. In fact, one of the articles earlier in this thread speculated that Davis needs to show some serious skills to insure that he maintains a roster spot.MAC_32 said:
Right now the battle is between the incumbent -- Jerome Harrison who did have an impressive late season run last year, and the shiny new rookie who has looked promising so far. It isn't clear just yet how this will shake out, but my money is on a split between the explosive playmaker Harrison who is a weak blocker and Hardesty who isn't as explosive, but seems to have a better all around game and has looked good early. James Davis is currently on the outside, looking in and will need to be exceptionally impressive in training camp and preseason to have any chance of being mentioned as anything more then the third guy in the mix.
The bandwagon grows bigger:
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...4829&spln=1
Montario Hardesty: Hardesty to beat out Jerome Harrison?
Montario Hardesty - RB - CLE - Jun. 16 - 1:52 pm et
Tony Grossi of the Cleveland Plain Dealer predicts that rookie Montario Hardesty will be the Browns' Week 1 starting tailback.
"I don't see him getting beat out by Jerome Harrison or anyone else," writes Grossi, adding that he envisions Hardesty as the Browns' rookie with the best shot to start on Opening Day, ahead of even No. 7 overall pick Joe Haden. If Hardesty does win the battle, he'll be worth consideration as a low-end RB2. Jun. 16 - 1:52 pm et
Source: Cleveland Plain Dealer
http://fantasyknuckleheads.com/fantasy-foo...okie-rb-impact/
Montario Hardesty, CLE – As I said in my article, Four Reasons Not To Draft Jerome Harrison, Montario Hardesty is a great north-south, tank of a runner. G.M. Mike Holmgren believes his running style will prove valuable in the bad winter weather. That assessment alone could spell doom for Jerome Harrison’s value, or at least push him back into his 3rd down, pass-catching role. Regardless, this is shaping up to be more of a platoon situation, with a real chance that Hardesty could be the team’s #1 by the start of the season. Keep an eye on this as the season gets closer. I ultimately believe Hardesty will be the primary back this season, and at the very least a serious touchdown vulture. As the summer progresses, the average draft positions of Hardesty and Harrison grow closer together.
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...4829&spln=1
Montario Hardesty: Hardesty to beat out Jerome Harrison?
Montario Hardesty - RB - CLE - Jun. 16 - 1:52 pm et
Tony Grossi of the Cleveland Plain Dealer predicts that rookie Montario Hardesty will be the Browns' Week 1 starting tailback.
"I don't see him getting beat out by Jerome Harrison or anyone else," writes Grossi, adding that he envisions Hardesty as the Browns' rookie with the best shot to start on Opening Day, ahead of even No. 7 overall pick Joe Haden. If Hardesty does win the battle, he'll be worth consideration as a low-end RB2. Jun. 16 - 1:52 pm et
Source: Cleveland Plain Dealer
http://fantasyknuckleheads.com/fantasy-foo...okie-rb-impact/
Montario Hardesty, CLE – As I said in my article, Four Reasons Not To Draft Jerome Harrison, Montario Hardesty is a great north-south, tank of a runner. G.M. Mike Holmgren believes his running style will prove valuable in the bad winter weather. That assessment alone could spell doom for Jerome Harrison’s value, or at least push him back into his 3rd down, pass-catching role. Regardless, this is shaping up to be more of a platoon situation, with a real chance that Hardesty could be the team’s #1 by the start of the season. Keep an eye on this as the season gets closer. I ultimately believe Hardesty will be the primary back this season, and at the very least a serious touchdown vulture. As the summer progresses, the average draft positions of Hardesty and Harrison grow closer together.
cr8f
Footballguy
MAC_32
Footballguy
Not saying anything you wrote is wrong (because most of it is dead on), but the leader of the old regime is still the head coach of this one. He may not make all of the roster moves, but he still has a strong say...especially after September 1.
cr8f
Footballguy
Holmgren does know about running in the cold from days at Lambeau. Cleveland does get more windy than Green Bay but is essentially the same kind of element.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5411229
Browns sign Hardesty to 4-year deal
CLEVELAND -- The Cleveland Browns have signed rookie running back Montario Hardesty to a multiyear contract.
The Browns announced the signing Monday. Hardesty was a second-round draft pick acquired from Philadelphia for a third-rounder and two fifth-round selections.
Hardesty started 19 of 49 games at Tennessee, and ran for 2,391 yards with 26 touchdowns.
First-round draft pick Joe Haden remains unsigned.
Browns sign Hardesty to 4-year deal
CLEVELAND -- The Cleveland Browns have signed rookie running back Montario Hardesty to a multiyear contract.
The Browns announced the signing Monday. Hardesty was a second-round draft pick acquired from Philadelphia for a third-rounder and two fifth-round selections.
Hardesty started 19 of 49 games at Tennessee, and ran for 2,391 yards with 26 touchdowns.
First-round draft pick Joe Haden remains unsigned.
Also posted this in one of the J.Harrison threads, but I think it's relevant to both players:
I saw Mike Holmgren on NFL Total Access last night and Rich asked him about M.Hardesty and the RB situation. Holmgren said how much he liked Hardesty as a person and a player and that he would get every opportunity to play. But then he said something to the effect that "Harrison finished last season with a bang and he is the guy."
So I take that as both guys being a big part of the plan.
I saw Mike Holmgren on NFL Total Access last night and Rich asked him about M.Hardesty and the RB situation. Holmgren said how much he liked Hardesty as a person and a player and that he would get every opportunity to play. But then he said something to the effect that "Harrison finished last season with a bang and he is the guy."
So I take that as both guys being a big part of the plan.
broncofan13000
Footballguy
This is bigger news then I think people believe because Hardesty is a rookie and any time missed is a big deal. The bigger problem is that he has the injury label and another knee injury after only one day is a big red flag for me and I'm a Hardesty guy.
massraider
Footballguy
Completely agree. Missing weeks of TC is bad for any rookie, but with Hardesty, you're hoping the injury stuff is just bad luck, and college injury questions become distant memories. This kind of thing, and so soon, is exactly what people questioning him were concerned about.
I agree - it is a concern and an additional red flag for a guy who hardly needs to add one to his resume. I do think that this kind of thing can be overblown; however, and if it causes Hardesty to drop in your league, he could end up becoming a value pick if he falls far enough.
massraider
Footballguy
See, I think every league will have at least one believer. I doubt Hardesty falls much, because it's very easy for at least one owner to want to rationalize a minor injury. And maybe they are right. Hardesty is gonna be a guy that people take a stand on, and either avoid the headache, and go for a safer guy with a lower ceiling, or roll the dice.
NajehHejan
Footballguy
I passed on Montario at 1.08 in my dynasty draft. The injury concerns just seemed to be too high. I'm not an "injury prone" hater, I take guys who've been hurt all the time, I mean, guys get hurt, a lot of the time it's bad luck. Hardesty, to me, just seems too much like Kijana Carter. Will never get on the field healthy. For redraft purposes, I will probably take Jerome Harrison a round or two early to make sure I get him. Harrison will be scoring major fantasy points while Hardesty nurses injuries on the training table.
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Avery
Footballguy
So, you passed at Hardesty at 1.08, I haven't looked but probably below his ADP, I'm curious who you drafted at 1.08 who went 1.01-1.07.
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NajehHejan
Footballguy
I gave up 2010 picks 1.08 and 3.01 in return for Jamaal Charles. The guys gone already 1.01-1.07 were Mathews/Spiller/Best/Dez Bryant/D Thomas/Tate/Benn. I don't like Bradford and didn't dig Hardesty. I love me some J Charles so I went with him.
GreatLakesMike
Footballguy
That must have been a tough decision.
ESPN Camp Confidential: Cleveland Browns (Hardesty Update)
BIGGEST DISAPPOINTMENT
This was supposed to be a breakthrough camp for Hardesty. Instead, his first training camp never got off the ground because of a knee injury.
Hardesty was competing with incumbent Jerome Harrison for the starting tailback job, and after a solid spring, many considered him the early favorite. But the second-round pick has missed every full-squad practice of training camp thus far and has fallen behind.
According to Mangini, Hardesty may not return until sometime next week at the earliest.
BIGGEST DISAPPOINTMENT
This was supposed to be a breakthrough camp for Hardesty. Instead, his first training camp never got off the ground because of a knee injury.
Hardesty was competing with incumbent Jerome Harrison for the starting tailback job, and after a solid spring, many considered him the early favorite. But the second-round pick has missed every full-squad practice of training camp thus far and has fallen behind.
According to Mangini, Hardesty may not return until sometime next week at the earliest.
Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
If anyone is surprised they had to know it came with the territory. His injury history is well documented. I'm still convinced in my head that Harrison is the more talented back too. Top it all being the Browns, nothing should be surprising.
jurb26
Footballguy
Hardesty has an injury history, there is no doubting that. Both knees have been repaired. None the less, I'm very confident is saying he is more talented than Harrison. We'll see how much this sets him back but let's also remember that when he comes back (if reports are correct next week) he still has 3 full weeks of the preseason in him.
Montario Hardesty returns to practice field
Montario Hardesty - RB - Cleveland Browns
Today - 12:05 PM ET
Montario Hardesty (knee) returned to the practice field on Wednesday.
Hardesty may just work on individual drills off to the side, but it's a good sign that he's decked out in helmet and shoulder pads with the rest of the players. He's already been ruled out of this week's game, but he could get his feet wet in the preseason finale.
Montario Hardesty - RB - Cleveland Browns
Today - 12:05 PM ET
Montario Hardesty (knee) returned to the practice field on Wednesday.
Hardesty may just work on individual drills off to the side, but it's a good sign that he's decked out in helmet and shoulder pads with the rest of the players. He's already been ruled out of this week's game, but he could get his feet wet in the preseason finale.
Hardesty's injury disclosed as bone bruise
Montario Hardesty - RB - Cleveland Browns
Aug. 24, 2010 - 1:45 PM ET
Montario Hardesty disclosed that his right knee injury was a bone bruise sustained during one-on-one tackling drills on the last day of Browns' rookie camp in late July.
The injury is unrelated to Hardesty's 2005 knee reconstruction. He won't play in this week's game, but he could see action in the Sept. 2 preseason finale against the Bears. Hardesty insists he'll be ready "way before the opener," and coach Eric Mangini is confident that he won't need "a ton of reps" to catch up. He already has a good handle on the offense after a strong spring.
Source: Cleveland Plain Dealer
Montario Hardesty - RB - Cleveland Browns
Aug. 24, 2010 - 1:45 PM ET
Montario Hardesty disclosed that his right knee injury was a bone bruise sustained during one-on-one tackling drills on the last day of Browns' rookie camp in late July.
The injury is unrelated to Hardesty's 2005 knee reconstruction. He won't play in this week's game, but he could see action in the Sept. 2 preseason finale against the Bears. Hardesty insists he'll be ready "way before the opener," and coach Eric Mangini is confident that he won't need "a ton of reps" to catch up. He already has a good handle on the offense after a strong spring.
Source: Cleveland Plain Dealer
Browns happy for Hardesty return
August 25, 2010 - By MIKE McLAIN Tribune Chronicle
BEREA
Finally, after almost four weeks of training camp for the Browns, there was a Montario Hardesty sighting Tuesday.
Hardesty, the second of two second-round draft choices, was standing in front of his locker when cornered by several reporters. It was the first time the running back from Tennessee has talked to the media since suffering an injury to his right knee shortly before the start of camp in late July.
No, Hardesty's right leg wasn't in a cast and there was no sign of crutches. He's doing fine and hopes to be on the practice field before the season opener Sept. 12 in Tampa.
Hardesty's return will be a welcome sight for the offense. According to all reports, he was the best running back on the field during offseason practices. Had he not suffered what coach Eric Mangini referred to as a twisted knee, he might be in line to be a starter.
Instead, all he's done since camp opened July 31 is rehabilitate the knee in the secrecy of the team facility. It couldn't have been easy for him knowing Jerome Harrison, Peyton Hillis and James Davis were sharing carries.
"After those first couple days, I knew what I had to do," Hardesty said. "So, for me, it hasn't been frustrating. I just wanted to be a student of the game and make sure that I'm staying up on everything.
"I went through the frustrating part and focused on getting back on the field. Now I'm excited again and I'm not frustrated at all."
Hardesty is a rookie you can't help but like, not just because of an ever-present smile. If scouting reports are accurate, he's what the Browns have been searching for since 1999 a big back with speed.
Now, it's just a matter of seeing him on the field, which didn't happen much during five seasons at Tennessee. He played in two games as a freshman in 2005 before suffering a season-ending knee injury. He dealt with minor injuries in 2006, '07 and '08 before having a healthy 2009 season, when he rushed for 1,345 yards.
When a rookie misses camp because of an injury, he normally doesn't play much in the regular season. Running backs tend to be different because they rely so much on natural instincts. Repetitions are important, but not as much as they are for players at other positions.
"I've never looked at it that way, but I think there is a decent element of instincts," Mangini said. "The thing with Montario that I'm really comfortable with is he knew the system pretty well in OTAs (offseason training activities). Even though he hasn't been on the field, he's been just as diligent during camp.
"He's a rookie, but the early impression is that he's not going to need a ton of reps in order to be effective in completing his assignments."
Hardesty was injured while making a cut. It had to make him think about the injuries he dealt with in college.
"When something like that happens, at first you always think you don't know what it is," Hardesty said. "Once I found out what it was, it was nothing. All those old things are in my past. It's just a bone bruise. It's something you have to let heal and get back on the field. I'm fine."
Hardesty hopes to participate in one of the two remaining practices this week before Saturday's preseason game in Detroit. He won't play against the Lions, but he hasn't ruled out playing in the final preseason game Sept. 1 against Chicago.
Hardesty thinks he'll pick up where he left off during offseason practices.
"That's my plan," he said. "I've been (studying) so when I get back on the field I'm ready to go and there's no learning curve to do again."
August 25, 2010 - By MIKE McLAIN Tribune Chronicle
BEREA
Finally, after almost four weeks of training camp for the Browns, there was a Montario Hardesty sighting Tuesday.
Hardesty, the second of two second-round draft choices, was standing in front of his locker when cornered by several reporters. It was the first time the running back from Tennessee has talked to the media since suffering an injury to his right knee shortly before the start of camp in late July.
No, Hardesty's right leg wasn't in a cast and there was no sign of crutches. He's doing fine and hopes to be on the practice field before the season opener Sept. 12 in Tampa.
Hardesty's return will be a welcome sight for the offense. According to all reports, he was the best running back on the field during offseason practices. Had he not suffered what coach Eric Mangini referred to as a twisted knee, he might be in line to be a starter.
Instead, all he's done since camp opened July 31 is rehabilitate the knee in the secrecy of the team facility. It couldn't have been easy for him knowing Jerome Harrison, Peyton Hillis and James Davis were sharing carries.
"After those first couple days, I knew what I had to do," Hardesty said. "So, for me, it hasn't been frustrating. I just wanted to be a student of the game and make sure that I'm staying up on everything.
"I went through the frustrating part and focused on getting back on the field. Now I'm excited again and I'm not frustrated at all."
Hardesty is a rookie you can't help but like, not just because of an ever-present smile. If scouting reports are accurate, he's what the Browns have been searching for since 1999 a big back with speed.
Now, it's just a matter of seeing him on the field, which didn't happen much during five seasons at Tennessee. He played in two games as a freshman in 2005 before suffering a season-ending knee injury. He dealt with minor injuries in 2006, '07 and '08 before having a healthy 2009 season, when he rushed for 1,345 yards.
When a rookie misses camp because of an injury, he normally doesn't play much in the regular season. Running backs tend to be different because they rely so much on natural instincts. Repetitions are important, but not as much as they are for players at other positions.
"I've never looked at it that way, but I think there is a decent element of instincts," Mangini said. "The thing with Montario that I'm really comfortable with is he knew the system pretty well in OTAs (offseason training activities). Even though he hasn't been on the field, he's been just as diligent during camp.
"He's a rookie, but the early impression is that he's not going to need a ton of reps in order to be effective in completing his assignments."
Hardesty was injured while making a cut. It had to make him think about the injuries he dealt with in college.
"When something like that happens, at first you always think you don't know what it is," Hardesty said. "Once I found out what it was, it was nothing. All those old things are in my past. It's just a bone bruise. It's something you have to let heal and get back on the field. I'm fine."
Hardesty hopes to participate in one of the two remaining practices this week before Saturday's preseason game in Detroit. He won't play against the Lions, but he hasn't ruled out playing in the final preseason game Sept. 1 against Chicago.
Hardesty thinks he'll pick up where he left off during offseason practices.
"That's my plan," he said. "I've been (studying) so when I get back on the field I'm ready to go and there's no learning curve to do again."
Saw a lot of threads concerning Hardesty, but this seeemed to be the only one dedicated to him. So I thought I'd bump it now that he has a full season under his belt and headed into the offseason.
Obviously a lot depends on what Cleveland does with Hillis and in the draft. Did we see enough out of this guy to suggest he has an future/value/upside in ff terms?
Obviously a lot depends on what Cleveland does with Hillis and in the draft. Did we see enough out of this guy to suggest he has an future/value/upside in ff terms?
MAC_32
Footballguy
I saw enough. He's terrible. One crappy spin move and zero vision. If he were healthier I'd say he's a perfect backup run-into-a-brick-wall battering ram type, but obviously he can't do that if he doesn't stay healthy.
Shutout
Footballguy
Its hard t see much of any value for Hardesty. Sometimes it just seems like everything goes against a guy's chances to get on the field and produce and this is one of those guys.
I believe his best chance to become relevant in the NFL is if he somehow got released and found a new team and then fell into a good opportunity situation.
I believe his best chance to become relevant in the NFL is if he somehow got released and found a new team and then fell into a good opportunity situation.
BearsFan
Footballguy
What "good opportunity situation" would be better than CLE currently? It doesn't look good for Hillis getting a long-term deal after last year's constant injuries, so he's likely not coming back unless franchised (they'll likely do Dawson instead).Brandon Jackson will likely get cut and, while Chris Ogbonnaya is serviceable, they're not going to rely on him.If Hardesty, one year removed from his injury, can regain his earlier form, he represents quite a good value currently IMO.
Fallerjw
Footballguy
Spot on. I swear, every other carry is a spin move whether the situation warrants it or not. His hands aren't very good and he can't stay healthy. Other than those things he's pretty solid.
Wyld Stallyns
Footballguy
I still like Hardesty, but his stock is obviously down. The Browns will definitely bring in some RB competition – whether it's resigning Hillis, adding through the draft, nabbing a FA, or all of the above... Ultimately, Hardesty will have a shot at earning decent time in 2012, but until we know who his competition is, it will be hard to gauge his chances.
Regardless, he's nothing more than a deep stash at this point. I will say this though: Don't let 2011 completely fool you, there was a lot going against him last year. The lack of any semblance of a passing game in Cleveland, along with some significant injuries to the oline, and injuries to Montario himself were all contributing factors. When he was healthy he looked intriguing, I think there was a solid game against Seattle in there if I remember correctly. Still though, that's the thing with him isn't it? ALWAYS hurt.
I still think the talent is there, but the injuries just don't seem to stop and I think it's affected his mental game a bit. The one that shut him down last year, the torn calf – I'm honestly not too concerned about. I'm not sure but it seems like something he should be able to rehab through without much problem.
What will be interesting to me is seeing how he comes into camp this year – don't forget, this is his first 'real' offseason. He was drafted in 2010, got hurt in the preseason and spent his rookie year on IR. Then the lockout happens with that shortened offseason, followed by more injuries during his sophomore campaign... and now he's actually got a full offseason to heal, and hopefully strengthen.
He needs to put in a ton of work between now and camp to get stronger and less injury prone – and hopefully that will improve his mental game as well. If he stops running like a player who is afraid of getting another injury, and starts running like a player who is confident in his health... I think he could still surprise us.
Regardless, he's nothing more than a deep stash at this point. I will say this though: Don't let 2011 completely fool you, there was a lot going against him last year. The lack of any semblance of a passing game in Cleveland, along with some significant injuries to the oline, and injuries to Montario himself were all contributing factors. When he was healthy he looked intriguing, I think there was a solid game against Seattle in there if I remember correctly. Still though, that's the thing with him isn't it? ALWAYS hurt.
I still think the talent is there, but the injuries just don't seem to stop and I think it's affected his mental game a bit. The one that shut him down last year, the torn calf – I'm honestly not too concerned about. I'm not sure but it seems like something he should be able to rehab through without much problem.
What will be interesting to me is seeing how he comes into camp this year – don't forget, this is his first 'real' offseason. He was drafted in 2010, got hurt in the preseason and spent his rookie year on IR. Then the lockout happens with that shortened offseason, followed by more injuries during his sophomore campaign... and now he's actually got a full offseason to heal, and hopefully strengthen.
He needs to put in a ton of work between now and camp to get stronger and less injury prone – and hopefully that will improve his mental game as well. If he stops running like a player who is afraid of getting another injury, and starts running like a player who is confident in his health... I think he could still surprise us.
redBourne
Footballguy
I think if the Browns bring back Hillis, then it will be Hillis' job to lose. However, anyone else they bring in will be competition for Hardesty. As you mentioned, Hardesty really hasn't gotten the normal offseason a player should receive. But this game comes and goes and it passes you by quick. I'm not a browns fan and I don't follow them that close, but I believe they have a pretty decent offensive line. Hillis seems to run behind them pretty well when he's motivated (lol when he doesn't have a cold). If Hardesty doesn't produce quick then it may be quickly passing him by as well, fair or not. He may not be given the fair shake/opportunity. I'm not putting much faith in him. I think the Browns in general (with or without Hillis) will not give Hardesty the chance to succeed. Whether Hardesty has it in himself to succeed or not I don't know. I think he's a bad bet.
Bronx Bomber
Footballguy
So which direction do they go with Hardesty now that Hillis is gone. Bring someone in like Tate to be the guy or bring in a Jacobs type to be part of a committee. Do they have any faith/trust he can be a main part of a RBBC or is this just a health concern? Or they should probably just draft Trent.
MAC_32
Footballguy
I have more faith in Brandon Jackson and Silent G.
loose circuits
Footballguy
was gonna say, why would you bring in Jacobs when Ogb is cheaper and probably better at this point
Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
Hardesty currently #1 on the CLE RB depth chart ? 
duaneok66
Footballguy
it's March.Hardesty currently #1 on the CLE RB depth chart ?
loose circuits
Footballguy
Any other rookie outside of TRich and it would be Montario's job to loseit's March.Hardesty currently #1 on the CLE RB depth chart ?
MAC_32
Footballguy
Doug Martin and Lamar Miller are infinitely better.Any other rookie outside of TRich and it would be Montario's job to loseit's March.Hardesty currently #1 on the CLE RB depth chart ?
loose circuits
Footballguy
Not sure how you are 100% convinced of that. Would they compete, sure they would compete. Wasn't long ago where Hardesty was the Doug Martin and Lamar Miller type prospect getting drafted in the early 2nd. Obviously injuries have derailed his development. This is the 1st year that he will be injury free. I can remember Shurmur commented on how he thought it would help Montario improve this off-season. In those type of situations usually the veteran ends up with the job unless or until they lose itDoug Martin and Lamar Miller are infinitely better.Any other rookie outside of TRich and it would be Montario's job to loseit's March.Hardesty currently #1 on the CLE RB depth chart ?
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MAC_32
Footballguy
I wasn't ever a big Hardesty fan, but he is much worse than I thought he was. Probably already wrote it in this thread, but he has one lousy spin move and zero vision. He just runs into his guys over and over again and is a liability in the passing game. We were better off when he wasn't on the field, and given the product that says a lot.Any of the top 3 would supplant him before week 1, I'm sure a half dozen others available later would do it before the end of year 1.
loose circuits
Footballguy
That dynasty trade thread got me going, so I've come here to deliver the news. I just had a trade offer that i made trying to give up Hardesty/Ogb for 3.01 and a 3rd which I thought was fair. Team has like 4 RB's on his entire roster and only one of them look starter worthy (Lynch). Anyways this isn't really about my trade that I was surprised to see rejected. After that, I realized that Hardesty is definitely a buy right now.
this guy reminds me of Beanie Wells a year ago. Everyone was writing him off. I even traded Beanie for 2 2nd round picks after Ryan Williams was drafted. What did Beanie do? Make me regret that bad.
Here are some articles and quotes I've found. If you can snatch him up fast, then you should do it.
this guy reminds me of Beanie Wells a year ago. Everyone was writing him off. I even traded Beanie for 2 2nd round picks after Ryan Williams was drafted. What did Beanie do? Make me regret that bad.
Here are some articles and quotes I've found. If you can snatch him up fast, then you should do it.
http://espncleveland.com/common/more.php?m=49&action=blog&r=5&post_id=685
http://www.newbernsj.com/articles/healthy-103322-offseason-ohio.html
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5860/montario-hardestythere are more like this and another brief blurb where it is said where Heckert is looking forward to see what a healthy Hardesty looks like. It sure seems like Montario has the right attitude going into this off-season and will have a chip on his shoulder with something to prove. The Browns could easily go a different direction knowing they have many needs. I think WR is more important for them not to mention many people are reporting them needing a QB. We'll have to wait and find out, but at this point if you can acquire for cheap like a 3rd rounder this year and 2013 pick do it. Why not? There is some Beanie Wells type upside here at an even cheaper price. I don't think anyone that bought Beanie last off season regrets it. People are fed up with his injuries and are definitely impatient. I see a glimmer of hope though which can give you something...
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Touchdown There
Footballguy
Did he learn to catch?
