JohnnyU
Footballguy
They seem to like White more than Tucker in the recent past, but I suppose that could change. White may be wearing out his welcome.
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BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
but isn't White the best pass blocker?
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
Grahamburn
Footballguy
They’re all cheap and good. Those aren’t the guys that get traded/cut in the NFL.
I know all of you want some movement for your fantasy team(s), but there’s no logical reason for the Bucs to do you any favors.
I know all of you want some movement for your fantasy team(s), but there’s no logical reason for the Bucs to do you any favors.
rockaction
Footballguy
This was silly. Tucker is going nowhere via being cut unless he asks or something goes on behind the scenes. I have no shares of him, so it's not wishful thinking. As others have pointed out, what's the logic of cutting him to save a couple hundred grand and then turn around and use a draft pick to replace him?
No. That would be colossally stupid. Draft picks have monetary value also. You'd have to pay the player you made the pick with and give up the value of a pick. No.
Again, just . . . not really in the realm of reality.
No. That would be colossally stupid. Draft picks have monetary value also. You'd have to pay the player you made the pick with and give up the value of a pick. No.
Again, just . . . not really in the realm of reality.
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rockaction
Footballguy
Mr. Irrelevant (the very last pick of the draft) makes almost exactly what Tucker makes a year. He'll make 30,000 fewer dollars than Tucker. So you would hope to replace Tucker with a seventh-round talent that costs you the same against the cap and you also burn a pick that way? There's no logic in that. It gets worse if you assume the Bucs take an RB with their fourth or fifth round pick. Then they net out much worse in terms of the cap. They do not have a sixth-round pick this year.
In short, I spent way too much time on this topic, but I know the parameters of rookie deals for each round now, so there's that.
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Late night/early morning spent well.
Perhaps there's a back they like a whole lot better than Tucker. That's possible. But it's highly unlikely they're going to spend a few million more in cap space for the year on a third-string running back when the one they have went off every time he touched the ball this year the game they gave him the rock. Just seems . . . extraordinarily far-fetched. The numbers don't add up and the talents likely don't, either. They could draft a guy to replace Irving as the starter, and in doing so replace Tucker, but other than that, I'm just not seeing how they cut Tucker as a cost-cutting move. Nothing in these scenarios cuts the cost of the RB room other than cutting White, really.
In short, I spent way too much time on this topic, but I know the parameters of rookie deals for each round now, so there's that.
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Late night/early morning spent well.
Perhaps there's a back they like a whole lot better than Tucker. That's possible. But it's highly unlikely they're going to spend a few million more in cap space for the year on a third-string running back when the one they have went off every time he touched the ball this year the game they gave him the rock. Just seems . . . extraordinarily far-fetched. The numbers don't add up and the talents likely don't, either. They could draft a guy to replace Irving as the starter, and in doing so replace Tucker, but other than that, I'm just not seeing how they cut Tucker as a cost-cutting move. Nothing in these scenarios cuts the cost of the RB room other than cutting White, really.
EBF
Footballguy
Yes, impressive waste of energy for a situation that seems very concrete. I thought Tucker had a chance to earn a role last season, but Irving came in and looked fantastic. White is a great pass catcher. The situation could not be simpler. Irving is the top back, White will get some part-time work, and Tucker is the cheap insurance policy. There is no urgency for TB to add another RB unless they see something they can't pass up in the draft.
In deep dynasty, Tucker is a hold in case he lands on a new team or gets elevated because of injuries. He's not in that Michael Turner class where you know someone is eventually going to give him a starting role, but he flashed some talent and RB is a spot with high injury turnover. You hope for a situation like Chase Brown or Chuba Hubbard where the opportunity clears up for him somewhere.
Lansdowne
Footballguy
Sean Tucker is technically a restricted free agent in 2026 for what that's worth. As far as his place on the Bucs, or the NFL in general, that's going to depend on if he gets additional opportunities this season to showcase his skills at RB, and how productive he is upon doing so. His teammate Rachaad White is an unrestricted free agent in 2026 and there is still a wide range of outcomes as far as how the backfield behind Bucky Irving will look. If White continues to show his value as the pass-catching RB then perhaps he's retained. If Tucker shows he can do what White does reasonably well or better, then perhaps he's the one that's kept. I don't see all three staying after 2025 but who knows. Tucker is still a long shot to be anything. He is young but has no draft capital and not a big enough sample size of production. And as you alluded to, there will always be fresh new competition at RB entering the league every year, and only so few roster spots available. Whether Tucker remains in Tampa depends on if he can establish enough value to justify keeping him. He's not going anywhere this year because he's a low cost, high upside roster depth piece. If he doesn't produce then he can very easily be replaced. Can't see him going anywhere this year unless another team overpays for him via trade, or if he has a disasterous training camp and is replaced by another RB.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
You're right, my bad. He is a RFA in 2026. The big question is whether another team will make him an offer that the Bucs won't match. My guess is probably no.
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Birdie048
Footballguy
It might require 2 injuries to get to shine ... as the team feels Bucky is the real deal.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
It's hard for me to get onboard with a player hoping for injuries to happen to give him more playing time. Unless something else happens, like trades, release, etc, how much interest is really there?
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
White Year 4 of his rookie deal? Perfect 3rd down RB and will get 30% of the carries?
Bucky Irving is going to get his touches, he proved you cannot keep him on the bench. 250+ touches, 1500/8TD, I do think his production could come off this pace a little but it won't be for lack of touches, the Bucs seem to know what they have with him and also didn't abuse him
My bigger concern is new OC and just being able to replicate anything close to what Duuuu-Vaaaal did last season
It's easy to pencil in Baker for another 40TDs but I wouldn't do that just yet.
That could mean more chances for the RBs to score TDs which actually would give them a slight boost
Depends on who they snag in the 1st and 2nd round or the rumors of a possible Cooper Kupp landing, that would change the dynamics of this offense
Lansdowne
Footballguy
I’m stuck with Sean Tucker in dynasty because with how my luck has gone I don’t trust it not to backfire if I do drop him. He’s my roster clogger. The moment I drop him both Bucky Irving and Rachaad White will slip on banana peels at the same time and Tucker will step in and have a 2000 Broncos Mike Anderson season (another guy who flourished when the two guys ahead of him got hurt).
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I don't believe in playing fantasy with fear.
Lansdowne
Footballguy
As someone who has in recent years cut David Njoku, Nico Collins, Kyren Williams, and Jalen McMillan and then seen them immediately take off, I have good reason to fear my decision making. Tucker was in and out of my roster numerous times the last two seasons, and I had picked him back up a week before his big game in New Orleans. That felt like the universe sending me a warning. Might be misguided thinking though.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Haven’t read anything about Kupp being an option especially if they’re trading draft capital. I think they’re just going to sign Godwin. Kupp is redundant as an option in Tampa.
They’re going to use the same scheme with Grizzard. Will there be some play calling growing pains? Maybe.
Is Godwin signing and is he full speed? Remember Baker did what he did without Godwin the majority of the year and Mike missing 4 games. Pretty impressive.
In Tucker’s case I have seen White’s name thrown around some as trade bait. He ended the year in the doghouse. I wouldn’t expect that but it’s possible if they wanted to throw him into a deal for Garrett or Hendrickson.
Tucker’s fantasy value could explode very soon if that were to materialize.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Keeping someone like Tucker is not playing with fear. It's committing to the eval knowing the path to an opportunity is more difficult than with others that may be less talented.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Doesn’t sound like you interpreted my response correctly. Read his post first, then mine.
I too think one should hang on to Tucker for awhile longer, but I’m not afraid to drop someone thinking they could become something. If they do I just chalk it up as a “Oh well, crap happens”. People take risks because roster spot are more important in some leagues than others.
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rockaction
Footballguy
I think he's eminently worthy of rostering. He showed what he could do in the New Orleans game (the only problem is that every RB by Week 6 seemed to show "what he could do in the New Orleans game"). He's definitely a better back than anybody in the Dallas or Houston locker rooms. There are other rooms he could also crash and make an impact with.
It's one of those things where situations that these guys find themselves in aren't a reflection of whether they have starter ability, but whether they go to teams that value running backs and will spend money and draft capital on them. Some teams just don't do that, and I get it, but man, it's tough to see guys like Tucker buried in a backfield while guys that are out of their prime are competing for starting roles (see: Miles Sanders and Javonte Williams).
It's one of those things where situations that these guys find themselves in aren't a reflection of whether they have starter ability, but whether they go to teams that value running backs and will spend money and draft capital on them. Some teams just don't do that, and I get it, but man, it's tough to see guys like Tucker buried in a backfield while guys that are out of their prime are competing for starting roles (see: Miles Sanders and Javonte Williams).
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
For Redraft purposes in 2025, I don't see it. White will likely be gone after this season if not sooner as he's on Year 4 of his rookie deal, would be nice if the Bucs could trade him
That would move Tucker into the RB2 spot on the depth charts.
He's not leap frogging Bucky this year, if you really believe that then you didn't watch a lot of Bucs games, especially down the stretch last season
@travdogg and others have been all over Irving for a while and he has some very strong stats to back up his current ADP
That would move Tucker into the RB2 spot on the depth charts.
He's not leap frogging Bucky this year, if you really believe that then you didn't watch a lot of Bucs games, especially down the stretch last season
@travdogg and others have been all over Irving for a while and he has some very strong stats to back up his current ADP
That 192-yard, two-TD Week 6 last year will be enough to keep him at the bottom of my Dynasty rosters for another year or two
(also earn him a couple of Round 20 fliers in best ball).
JohnnyU
Footballguy
He was dropped by two different teams in my 14 team devy league in 2024. I added him that year and parked him.That 192-yard, two-TD Week 6 last year will be enough to keep him at the bottom of my Dynasty rosters for another year or two
Lansdowne
Footballguy
Tucker doesn’t need to be rostered in redraft leagues unless it’s deep or if your league is particularly RB thirsty. He won’t leapfrog Bucky but he could receive the lion’s share of carries if Bucky gets injured. White will still have a role as he’s the best pass catcher and pass protector of the bunch but he’s inefficient as a runner and doesn’t have the juice that Tucker has as a pure runner. Tucker is very situation-dependent but I’m a believer in the talent if the opportunity presents itself.
Actually read this earlier this morning ,timely.
Bucs will have decisions to make at RB after 2025 -- Rachaad White will be an unrestricted free agent and could seek a bigger role elsewhere, Sean Tucker will be a restricted free agent, unlikely to get tendered at a minimum of ~$3.4 million, so could be unrestricted as well.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
So you're saying you feel the Bucs might trade White or Tucker?
That points to Irving having a major lockdown on the RB1 slot for the Bucs, yes/no?
nittanylion
Footballguy
RB2 job opening up in CIN, with the release of Zach Moss...
No, I don't think they are going to trade either of them anytime soon because their two Williams who are RB's 4 and 5 are both injured and not very good so don't think they can get enough back to justify weakening a strength.
What I was trying to shine a light on is that Tucker may not ascend to being the RB2 next year because unless they tender him at that $3.4M min he's going to be an UFA. ETA-which I view as a plus for Tucker as I'd rather he got to pick his landing spot then just returning as likely RB2. Odds are he won't end up beating that outcome, but would rather he had a fighting chance.
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I think his name is Tahj Brooks.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Not to muddy the Tucker thread with Bengals players, I believe Tahj Brooks will claim that job.
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Ray Barboni
Footballguy
He does need a home. But, there is absolutely room for him in Tampa if White is released/traded.
A Bucky/Tucker backfield can be fantasy productive for both.
Or, maybe we can wish him over to Dallas
A Bucky/Tucker backfield can be fantasy productive for both.
Or, maybe we can wish him over to Dallas
Grahamburn
Footballguy
The More Bang for Your Buc Backfield.
djjosee
Footballguy
Smoooooth ...
eighsse2
Footballguy
With moves like that he will KILL IT on his 22 touches this year.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Interesting, i thought Tucker hit the drill the best with his quick steps but you clearly see Bucky and White with big safety head gear so they don't get hurt
You can see how the Bucs are prioritizing all 3 of them
White had 1,500/9 TD in '23 and even with Irving bursting on the scene, White still had 1,000 total yds, 9 TD and another 51 catches
Bucs may have the most talented overall backfield in the league or at least the deepest
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@SleeperTBBUCS
INJURY UPDATE
This morning HC Todd Bowles said Rachaad White has a groin injury. They’ll be doing more tests but nothing specific yet.
He praised Sean Tucker saying “He's a game-breaker for us," who had a strong night Saturday. (per @gregauman)
#WeAreTheKrewe
Desert_Power
Footballguy
I've suspected all offseason that Tampa wants to use more Tucker instead of White. The injury throws this door open.
