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[Righetti]

October 4, 2006, 22:36

Packers :: RB

Packers Planning Running Back By Committee?

Mike Spofford, Packers.com - [Full Article]

According to Green Bay Packers head coach Mike McCarthy, running back Ahman Green and running back Vernand Morency will see significant playing time during the remainder of the season.

 

[Limp Ditka]

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

Here is the full article. This isn't surprising at all. They traded for Morency to help take some of the load off of Green. The plan is to use Morency in a way the Packers had used Tony Fisher and Najeh Davenport. There is no way Green or many other backs could handle the load the team was asking for. Prior to Morency arriving Green was seeing the vast majority of looks. This should help Green so he doesn't wear down as the season progresses. With the bye week approaching after the Rams game, that should help Green get back to 100%.

With a healthy Ahman Green and a young Vernand Morency with one Packers start under his belt, Head Coach Mike McCarthy is hoping his team will have a strong "one-two punch" in the backfield the rest of the season.

McCarthy said Wednesday he expects Green's hamstring to be healed enough to allow him to play this weekend, noting he believes Green's hamstring troubles are a residual effect of coming off the severe quadriceps injury from last season.

But the first hamstring Green hurt two weeks ago appears to be all better now, and the second hamstring tweak continues to improve as well.

"Frankly I was surprised he didn't play Monday night," McCarthy said. "I'll be surprised if he doesn't go this week."

Even with Green's return, McCarthy still expects to use Morency on a regular basis after he battled for a tough 99 rushing yards against Philadelphia. He had a critical fumble, just like Green did in each of the previous two games, but McCarthy liked the burst and decisiveness he saw throughout the game.

"The turnover is the black eye in his performance, but he put his foot down and ran and made good decisions," McCarthy said. "He bounced the ball a couple of times when the opportunity presented itself. But you can see him, he wasn't totally comfortable in some spots, but I thought he ran tough, I thought he played hard. He stuck his nose in there in pass protection, so we'll continue to roll him in there."

Since the season opener, the number of total touches (rushes and receptions) for the feature back has steadily increased. Against New Orleans, Green had 22 touches, follwed by 30 against Detroit. This past Monday in Philadelphia, Morency had 32.

If that level of workload keeps up, the Packers expect to need two regular backs to share at least some of those opportunities.

 

[Todem]

Ahman will still post some good numbers in HP leagues. Morency is a decent player but he also has a tendency to get nicked up as well. But this only helps Green for the long haul over the rest of the year.

 

[redman]

What do people figure the number of carries will be per game and the breakdown between those two backs?

I've got to believe that we're going to continue to see a Packers team playing from behind and passing far more than it's running from around the 2nd quarter on, no?

 

[mr. furley]

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=509984

After four weeks of avoiding mass injury, the Packers found themselves with seven players on the injury report who are listed as questionable or worse.

Blackmon (foot) is out; receiver Robert Ferguson (foot) and Hodge are doubtful; receiver Donald Driver (ribs/hip), running back Ahman Green (hamstring), tight end Donald Lee (knee) and linebacker Ben Taylor (hamstring) are questionable.

All eight missed practice.

Driver and Green both took part in individual drills and have a good shot of playing. Green remains bothered by the hamstring he pulled in practice last week, but McCarthy said he thought Green would be ready for the Rams.

"I was surprised he didn't play Monday night," McCarthy said.

 

[Righetti]

I really have a feeling that Ahman will battle these hamstring injuries for the rest of the year... He'll play a bunch of games but will appear on the injured list giving FF owners some difficult decisions.

I'm not a Doctor but I do wonder if the Hamstring injuries have anything to do with the Quad injury he suffered yesterday, over-compensating the contrasting muscles.

 

[packersfan]

I haven't been enamored with a lot of Thompson's moves but I liked the Morency trade the second I heard about it. I think he's a talent and I'm surprised the Texans gave up on him. I believed at the time of the trade he would cut into Green's touches so this doesn't surprise me. In addition to taking advantage of the talent (or potential talent) Morency brings to the team it's also the best way in my opinion to try and keep Green healthy for the duration of the season.

 

[Todem]

He better get his hands together. I think Morency has no patience though. I think he will end up being a career back-up.

 

[Kleck.]

I haven't been enamored with a lot of Thompson's moves but I liked the Morency trade the second I heard about it. I think he's a talent and I'm surprised the Texans gave up on him. I believed at the time of the trade he would cut into Green's touches so this doesn't surprise me. In addition to taking advantage of the talent (or potential talent) Morency brings to the team it's also the best way in my opinion to try and keep Green healthy for the duration of the season.

 

[redman]

He better get his hands together. I think Morency has no patience though. I think he will end up being a career back-up.

What means this?

 

[Righetti]

He better get his hands together. I think Morency has no patience though. I think he will end up being a career back-up.

What means this?

we need a :greatposting: smilie when isn't good enough

 

[3C's]

He better get his hands together. I think Morency has no patience though. I think he will end up being a career back-up.

What means this?

Guess he's referring to the fumble. As for the career backup...I disagree.

 

[The Football Freak]

Not much to worry about if you are a Green owner. If he kept getting 25-30 carries a game he would never make it through the season. 20 carries and 4-6 catches would keep him scoring for fantasy but wouldn't wear him down as much.

 

[fatboyj711]

He better get his hands together. I think Morency has no patience though. I think he will end up being a career back-up.

What means this?

Guess he's referring to the fumble. As for the career backup...I disagree.

He must be reffering to the fumble and botched reception that led to an interception...

 

[fatboyj711]

Not much to worry about if you are a Green owner. If he kept getting 25-30 carries a game he would never make it through the season. 20 carries and 4-6 catches would keep him scoring for fantasy but wouldn't wear him down as much.

Green owners have plenty to worry about... He may get 20 carries a game (an optimistic projection at that), but his receptions will inevitably drop with morency coming in on 3rd downs (his success thus far has been through the passing game)... Couple that with the injuries that keep cropping up... I'm glad I don't own Green

 

[One]

He better get his hands together. I think Morency has no patience though. I think he will end up being a career back-up.

What means this?

Guess he's referring to the fumble. As for the career backup...I disagree.

He must be reffering to the fumble and botched reception that led to an interception...

Fumble: Morency's faultInterception: Favre's fault

 

[The Football Freak]

Not much to worry about if you are a Green owner. If he kept getting 25-30 carries a game he would never make it through the season. 20 carries and 4-6 catches would keep him scoring for fantasy but wouldn't wear him down as much.

Green owners have plenty to worry about... He may get 20 carries a game (an optimistic projection at that), but his receptions will inevitably drop with morency coming in on 3rd downs (his success thus far has been through the passing game)... Couple that with the injuries that keep cropping up... I'm glad I don't own Green

He is a good third down back, evinced by his receptions this year. Morency has talent and will likely take up the slack rather than parsing it out to multiple backs, so he will get 10 carries a game and spell Green, but if Green is healthy, he is the man. That of course, is the rub...In his first two games he got 22 and 30 carries, side from a number of catches. They HAD to bring it an effective runner who could take some of that load.

 

[gman8343]

He better get his hands together. I think Morency has no patience though. I think he will end up being a career back-up.

What means this?

Guess he's referring to the fumble. As for the career backup...I disagree.

He must be reffering to the fumble and botched reception that led to an interception...

Fumble: Morency's faultInterception: Favre's fault

Didn't the ball bounce of Morency, leading to the INT? I wouldn't blame that on Favre.

 

[packersfan]

He better get his hands together. I think Morency has no patience though. I think he will end up being a career back-up.

What means this?

Guess he's referring to the fumble. As for the career backup...I disagree.

He must be reffering to the fumble and botched reception that led to an interception...

Fumble: Morency's faultInterception: Favre's fault

Didn't the ball bounce of Morency, leading to the INT? I wouldn't blame that on Favre.

It did hit Morency in the hands but Favre threw a heater when he was only a few yards away from Morency. There was no reason, in my opinion, for him to throw such a hard pass given the distance and given how open Morency was. Since it hit Morency in the hands I'll accept the argument that he should have caught it but I would place the primary blame on Favre for putting way too much zip on the pass when it wasn't necessary.

 

[One]

He better get his hands together. I think Morency has no patience though. I think he will end up being a career back-up.

What means this?

Guess he's referring to the fumble. As for the career backup...I disagree.

He must be reffering to the fumble and botched reception that led to an interception...

Fumble: Morency's faultInterception: Favre's fault

Didn't the ball bounce of Morency, leading to the INT? I wouldn't blame that on Favre.

Physics question: Favre throws a ball 7' high and 100 mph from 2 yards away. Who's gonna catch it? (values are greatly exaggerated, but you know what i mean )

 

[Big Score]

Green owners have plenty to worry about... He may get 20 carries a game (an optimistic projection at that), but his receptions will inevitably drop with morency coming in on 3rd downs (his success thus far has been through the passing game)... Couple that with the injuries that keep cropping up... I'm glad I don't own Green

I expressed those exact same concerns a couple of weeks ago when Morency was first traded for. It went over like a lead ballon.

 

[packersfan]

Green owners have plenty to worry about... He may get 20 carries a game (an optimistic projection at that), but his receptions will inevitably drop with morency coming in on 3rd downs (his success thus far has been through the passing game)... Couple that with the injuries that keep cropping up... I'm glad I don't own Green

I expressed those exact same concerns a couple of weeks ago when Morency was first traded for. It went over like a lead ballon.

There were 2 or 3 of us as I recall who said Morency was going to cut into Green's touches even if Green remained healthy. With Green hobbling and Morency looking good in his first start, Morency's role is likely to get even greater going forward.

 

[Big Score]

Green owners have plenty to worry about... He may get 20 carries a game (an optimistic projection at that), but his receptions will inevitably drop with morency coming in on 3rd downs (his success thus far has been through the passing game)... Couple that with the injuries that keep cropping up... I'm glad I don't own Green

I expressed those exact same concerns a couple of weeks ago when Morency was first traded for. It went over like a lead ballon.

There were 2 or 3 of us as I recall who said Morency was going to cut into Green's touches even if Green remained healthy. With Green hobbling and Morency looking good in his first start, Morency's role is likely to get even greater going forward.

Yeah, a couple of you did, but by far & away, the majority of the responses were not that way.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

Green owners have plenty to worry about... He may get 20 carries a game (an optimistic projection at that), but his receptions will inevitably drop with morency coming in on 3rd downs (his success thus far has been through the passing game)... Couple that with the injuries that keep cropping up... I'm glad I don't own Green

I expressed those exact same concerns a couple of weeks ago when Morency was first traded for. It went over like a lead ballon.

There were 2 or 3 of us as I recall who said Morency was going to cut into Green's touches even if Green remained healthy. With Green hobbling and Morency looking good in his first start, Morency's role is likely to get even greater going forward.

Yeah, a couple of you did, but by far & away, the majority of the responses were not that way.

Because you stated that if Morency was getting touches it would make Green virturally useless from a fantasy standpoint.

 

[moleculo]

stating the obvious here, but -

Gotta think this really increases Morency's value by quite a bit - he's moved from handcuff to a fragile RB to handcuff to fragile RB who will get regular touches. That's how I view Morency at this point.

 

[fatboyj711]

Green owners have plenty to worry about... He may get 20 carries a game (an optimistic projection at that), but his receptions will inevitably drop with morency coming in on 3rd downs (his success thus far has been through the passing game)... Couple that with the injuries that keep cropping up... I'm glad I don't own Green

I expressed those exact same concerns a couple of weeks ago when Morency was first traded for. It went over like a lead ballon.

There were 2 or 3 of us as I recall who said Morency was going to cut into Green's touches even if Green remained healthy. With Green hobbling and Morency looking good in his first start, Morency's role is likely to get even greater going forward.

Yeah, a couple of you did, but by far & away, the majority of the responses were not that way.

Because you stated that if Morency was getting touches it would make Green virturally useless from a fantasy standpoint.

I think that's precisely what he's saying... Green has no value on the bench, and each day he sits out of practices/games, he's giving up ground to morency...

 

[Limp Ditka]

Green owners have plenty to worry about... He may get 20 carries a game (an optimistic projection at that), but his receptions will inevitably drop with morency coming in on 3rd downs (his success thus far has been through the passing game)... Couple that with the injuries that keep cropping up... I'm glad I don't own Green

I expressed those exact same concerns a couple of weeks ago when Morency was first traded for. It went over like a lead ballon.

There were 2 or 3 of us as I recall who said Morency was going to cut into Green's touches even if Green remained healthy. With Green hobbling and Morency looking good in his first start, Morency's role is likely to get even greater going forward.

Yeah, a couple of you did, but by far & away, the majority of the responses were not that way.

Because you stated that if Morency was getting touches it would make Green virturally useless from a fantasy standpoint.

Let's hypothetically say that VM is strictly a 3rd down back. IMO he spells him for a series a half also, but for now let's just say he's a 3rd down back. In doing so, he probably takes about 1/2 of Green's targets in the passing game.What is Ahman's value then?

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

Green owners have plenty to worry about... He may get 20 carries a game (an optimistic projection at that), but his receptions will inevitably drop with morency coming in on 3rd downs (his success thus far has been through the passing game)... Couple that with the injuries that keep cropping up... I'm glad I don't own Green

I expressed those exact same concerns a couple of weeks ago when Morency was first traded for. It went over like a lead ballon.

There were 2 or 3 of us as I recall who said Morency was going to cut into Green's touches even if Green remained healthy. With Green hobbling and Morency looking good in his first start, Morency's role is likely to get even greater going forward.

Yeah, a couple of you did, but by far & away, the majority of the responses were not that way.

Because you stated that if Morency was getting touches it would make Green virturally useless from a fantasy standpoint.

I think that's precisely what he's saying... Green has no value on the bench, and each day he sits out of practices/games, he's giving up ground to morency...

And you just keep believing that. His point was that if Morency was getting touches during games that Green played in that it would make Green virtually useless. When Green comes back he will continue to produce for fantasty owners even though Morency will get carries too. The goal here is to lighten the load for Green. Green saw almost all the touches early and the Packers know they need to keep him fresh. This is nothing new for the Packers. Tony Fisher and Najeh Davenport were also used in the role that Morency will assume.Green owners should be happy that the team is doing something to lighten the load for him

 

[redman]

What do people figure the number of carries will be per game and the breakdown between those two backs? I've got to believe that we're going to continue to see a Packers team playing from behind and passing far more than it's running from around the 2nd quarter on, no?

I'll try to answer my own question:The Pack has 98 carries through 4 games, or almost 25 per game. They're averaging 3.3 ypc, which I suspect will improve; I'm less optimistic about the number of carries improving though given that I figure they'll mostly be playing from behind.If you assume a 3:2 ratio of carries, for Green and Morency, you're not looking at a lot of yardage. GB does throw to its RB's (32 completions out of 98 to RB's), but I'm not sure how much that's going to really help here and Green is by far the biggest beneficiary there to date.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

Green owners have plenty to worry about... He may get 20 carries a game (an optimistic projection at that), but his receptions will inevitably drop with morency coming in on 3rd downs (his success thus far has been through the passing game)... Couple that with the injuries that keep cropping up... I'm glad I don't own Green

I expressed those exact same concerns a couple of weeks ago when Morency was first traded for. It went over like a lead ballon.

There were 2 or 3 of us as I recall who said Morency was going to cut into Green's touches even if Green remained healthy. With Green hobbling and Morency looking good in his first start, Morency's role is likely to get even greater going forward.

Yeah, a couple of you did, but by far & away, the majority of the responses were not that way.

Because you stated that if Morency was getting touches it would make Green virturally useless from a fantasy standpoint.

Let's hypothetically say that VM is strictly a 3rd down back. IMO he spells him for a series a half also, but for now let's just say he's a 3rd down back. In doing so, he probably takes about 1/2 of Green's targets in the passing game.What is Ahman's value then?

Not virtually useless from a fantasy standpoint like Big Score thinks.

 

[Big Score]

Green owners have plenty to worry about... He may get 20 carries a game (an optimistic projection at that), but his receptions will inevitably drop with morency coming in on 3rd downs (his success thus far has been through the passing game)... Couple that with the injuries that keep cropping up... I'm glad I don't own Green

I expressed those exact same concerns a couple of weeks ago when Morency was first traded for. It went over like a lead ballon.

There were 2 or 3 of us as I recall who said Morency was going to cut into Green's touches even if Green remained healthy. With Green hobbling and Morency looking good in his first start, Morency's role is likely to get even greater going forward.

Yeah, a couple of you did, but by far & away, the majority of the responses were not that way.

Because you stated that if Morency was getting touches it would make Green virturally useless from a fantasy standpoint.

I think that's precisely what he's saying... Green has no value on the bench, and each day he sits out of practices/games, he's giving up ground to morency...

That and if when healthy, Green loses too many touches to Morency. If that happens, then they both become virtually unplayable. But again, my thoughts went over like a lead ballon & I see from the quotes above, my #1 is still at it.

 

[fatboyj711]

Green owners have plenty to worry about... He may get 20 carries a game (an optimistic projection at that), but his receptions will inevitably drop with morency coming in on 3rd downs (his success thus far has been through the passing game)... Couple that with the injuries that keep cropping up... I'm glad I don't own Green

I expressed those exact same concerns a couple of weeks ago when Morency was first traded for. It went over like a lead ballon.

There were 2 or 3 of us as I recall who said Morency was going to cut into Green's touches even if Green remained healthy. With Green hobbling and Morency looking good in his first start, Morency's role is likely to get even greater going forward.

Yeah, a couple of you did, but by far & away, the majority of the responses were not that way.

Because you stated that if Morency was getting touches it would make Green virturally useless from a fantasy standpoint.

I think that's precisely what he's saying... Green has no value on the bench, and each day he sits out of practices/games, he's giving up ground to morency...

And you just keep believing that. His point was that if Morency was getting touches during games that Green played in that it would make Green virtually useless. When Green comes back he will continue to produce for fantasty owners even though Morency will get carries too. The goal here is to lighten the load for Green. Green saw almost all the touches early and the Packers know they need to keep him fresh. This is nothing new for the Packers. Tony Fisher and Najeh Davenport were also used in the role that Morency will assume.Green owners should be happy that the team is doing something to lighten the load for him

Let's hypothetically say that VM is strictly a 3rd down back. IMO he spells him for a series a half also, but for now let's just say he's a 3rd down back. In doing so, he probably takes about 1/2 of Green's targets in the passing game.What is Ahman's value then?

 

[Limp Ditka]

Green owners have plenty to worry about... He may get 20 carries a game (an optimistic projection at that), but his receptions will inevitably drop with morency coming in on 3rd downs (his success thus far has been through the passing game)... Couple that with the injuries that keep cropping up... I'm glad I don't own Green

I expressed those exact same concerns a couple of weeks ago when Morency was first traded for. It went over like a lead ballon.

There were 2 or 3 of us as I recall who said Morency was going to cut into Green's touches even if Green remained healthy. With Green hobbling and Morency looking good in his first start, Morency's role is likely to get even greater going forward.

Yeah, a couple of you did, but by far & away, the majority of the responses were not that way.

Because you stated that if Morency was getting touches it would make Green virturally useless from a fantasy standpoint.

Let's hypothetically say that VM is strictly a 3rd down back. IMO he spells him for a series a half also, but for now let's just say he's a 3rd down back. In doing so, he probably takes about 1/2 of Green's targets in the passing game.What is Ahman's value then?

Not virtually useless from a fantasy standpoint like Big Score thinks.

In his last 2 games played he's scored 3/4 (18 of 24) of his points via the pass in standard scoring leagues.Cut that number in half, using our hypothetic scenario, and he's scored 15 points over the last 2 games played.7.5 points per game now the ideal situation.You're getting dangerously close to virtually useless IMO

 

[Todem]

He better get his hands together. I think Morency has no patience though. I think he will end up being a career back-up.

What means this?

Guess he's referring to the fumble. As for the career backup...I disagree.

He must be reffering to the fumble and botched reception that led to an interception...

Exactly. Sometimes I have to type very fast at work.

 

[Todem]

Green is their best back and gives them their best chance to win. As long as Green is healthy he will get a majority of the snaps. That is how I see it, and we will find out soon enough.

If I am wrong and Morency really cut's into Greens numbers then playing Green as a RB3 (which is what he should be for most teams this season and what his role is on my dynasty squads that start 3) time to make other plans.

I just do not see Morency as a threat to Green's overall fantasy success. Green is a proven veteran and has looked great thus far.

 

[Kleck.]

Green owners have plenty to worry about... He may get 20 carries a game (an optimistic projection at that), but his receptions will inevitably drop with morency coming in on 3rd downs (his success thus far has been through the passing game)... Couple that with the injuries that keep cropping up... I'm glad I don't own Green

I expressed those exact same concerns a couple of weeks ago when Morency was first traded for. It went over like a lead ballon.

There were 2 or 3 of us as I recall who said Morency was going to cut into Green's touches even if Green remained healthy. With Green hobbling and Morency looking good in his first start, Morency's role is likely to get even greater going forward.

Yeah, a couple of you did, but by far & away, the majority of the responses were not that way.

Because you stated that if Morency was getting touches it would make Green virturally useless from a fantasy standpoint.

Let's hypothetically say that VM is strictly a 3rd down back. IMO he spells him for a series a half also, but for now let's just say he's a 3rd down back. In doing so, he probably takes about 1/2 of Green's targets in the passing game.What is Ahman's value then?

It should still be better than ADP RB #35 or whatever he was.

 

[Limp Ditka]

Green owners have plenty to worry about... He may get 20 carries a game (an optimistic projection at that), but his receptions will inevitably drop with morency coming in on 3rd downs (his success thus far has been through the passing game)... Couple that with the injuries that keep cropping up... I'm glad I don't own Green

I expressed those exact same concerns a couple of weeks ago when Morency was first traded for. It went over like a lead ballon.

There were 2 or 3 of us as I recall who said Morency was going to cut into Green's touches even if Green remained healthy. With Green hobbling and Morency looking good in his first start, Morency's role is likely to get even greater going forward.

Yeah, a couple of you did, but by far & away, the majority of the responses were not that way.

Because you stated that if Morency was getting touches it would make Green virturally useless from a fantasy standpoint.

Let's hypothetically say that VM is strictly a 3rd down back. IMO he spells him for a series a half also, but for now let's just say he's a 3rd down back. In doing so, he probably takes about 1/2 of Green's targets in the passing game.What is Ahman's value then?

It should still be better than ADP RB #35 or whatever he was.

If it comes in at 7.5, which is my guestimate, then its around 37th I think.

 

[Big Score]

Green owners have plenty to worry about... He may get 20 carries a game (an optimistic projection at that), but his receptions will inevitably drop with morency coming in on 3rd downs (his success thus far has been through the passing game)... Couple that with the injuries that keep cropping up... I'm glad I don't own Green

I expressed those exact same concerns a couple of weeks ago when Morency was first traded for. It went over like a lead ballon.

There were 2 or 3 of us as I recall who said Morency was going to cut into Green's touches even if Green remained healthy. With Green hobbling and Morency looking good in his first start, Morency's role is likely to get even greater going forward.

Yeah, a couple of you did, but by far & away, the majority of the responses were not that way.

Because you stated that if Morency was getting touches it would make Green virturally useless from a fantasy standpoint.

Let's hypothetically say that VM is strictly a 3rd down back. IMO he spells him for a series a half also, but for now let's just say he's a 3rd down back. In doing so, he probably takes about 1/2 of Green's targets in the passing game.What is Ahman's value then?

It should still be better than ADP RB #35 or whatever he was.

The thing is Kleck, IF Green's fantasy points start dipping that low for a game here and a game there, there's almost bound to be more consistent options on the Waiver Wire.EDIT:

Depending on league & roster size.

 

[fatboyj711]

Green is their best back and gives them their best chance to win. As long as Green is healthy he will get a majority of the snaps. That is how I see it, and we will find out soon enough. If I am wrong and Morency really cut's into Greens numbers then playing Green as a RB3 (which is what he should be for most teams this season and what his role is on my dynasty squads that start 3) time to make other plans. I just do not see Morency as a threat to Green's overall fantasy success. Green is a proven veteran and has looked great thus far.

ignorance is bliss...until you start green next week

 

[Kleck.]

Green owners have plenty to worry about... He may get 20 carries a game (an optimistic projection at that), but his receptions will inevitably drop with morency coming in on 3rd downs (his success thus far has been through the passing game)... Couple that with the injuries that keep cropping up... I'm glad I don't own Green

I expressed those exact same concerns a couple of weeks ago when Morency was first traded for. It went over like a lead ballon.

There were 2 or 3 of us as I recall who said Morency was going to cut into Green's touches even if Green remained healthy. With Green hobbling and Morency looking good in his first start, Morency's role is likely to get even greater going forward.

Yeah, a couple of you did, but by far & away, the majority of the responses were not that way.

Because you stated that if Morency was getting touches it would make Green virturally useless from a fantasy standpoint.

Let's hypothetically say that VM is strictly a 3rd down back. IMO he spells him for a series a half also, but for now let's just say he's a 3rd down back. In doing so, he probably takes about 1/2 of Green's targets in the passing game.What is Ahman's value then?

It should still be better than ADP RB #35 or whatever he was.

The thing is Kleck, IF Green's fantasy points start dipping that low for a game here and a game there, there's almost bound to be more consistent options on the Waiver Wire.

That low being 7.5 ppg in non ppr leagues? There are currently no waiver wire RBs performing those kind of numbers in the non ppr league I own Green in. If there were, they would be rostered.

 

[Aaronstory]

Green is their best back and gives them their best chance to win. Green is a proven veteran and has looked great thus far.

Before Monday night, I would have agreed with you on this. But after watching the kid in his first extended action, I'm not so sure. He looked much quicker that Green exploding through the hole. He got around the end on one play that Green hasn't been able to do since the very first play of the season. I'm not writing Green off by any means, but he looked shaky against the Saints and didn't fare very well running the ball against the Lions. If he continues to struggle, and Morency keeps looking like he looked Monday night, I would not be suprised to see a slow changing of the guard at RB.

 

[redman]

Green is their best back and gives them their best chance to win. Green is a proven veteran and has looked great thus far.

Before Monday night, I would have agreed with you on this. But after watching the kid in his first extended action, I'm not so sure. He looked much quicker that Green exploding through the hole. He got around the end on one play that Green hasn't been able to do since the very first play of the season. I'm not writing Green off by any means, but he looked shaky against the Saints and didn't fare very well running the ball against the Lions. If he continues to struggle, and Morency keeps looking like he looked Monday night, I would not be suprised to see a slow changing of the guard at RB.

Anyone else wondering whether this is going to look like Green more or less playing the role of Stephen Davis last year in Carolina, and Morency resembling Foster (before he got hurt, of course)? Not that I think the GB running game can be as good as Carolina's was overall last year, but just in terms of a model to look at.

 

[Big Score]

Green owners have plenty to worry about... He may get 20 carries a game (an optimistic projection at that), but his receptions will inevitably drop with morency coming in on 3rd downs (his success thus far has been through the passing game)... Couple that with the injuries that keep cropping up... I'm glad I don't own Green

I expressed those exact same concerns a couple of weeks ago when Morency was first traded for. It went over like a lead ballon.

There were 2 or 3 of us as I recall who said Morency was going to cut into Green's touches even if Green remained healthy. With Green hobbling and Morency looking good in his first start, Morency's role is likely to get even greater going forward.

Yeah, a couple of you did, but by far & away, the majority of the responses were not that way.

Because you stated that if Morency was getting touches it would make Green virturally useless from a fantasy standpoint.

Let's hypothetically say that VM is strictly a 3rd down back. IMO he spells him for a series a half also, but for now let's just say he's a 3rd down back. In doing so, he probably takes about 1/2 of Green's targets in the passing game.What is Ahman's value then?

It should still be better than ADP RB #35 or whatever he was.

The thing is Kleck, IF Green's fantasy points start dipping that low for a game here and a game there, there's almost bound to be more consistent options on the Waiver Wire.

That low being 7.5 ppg in non ppr leagues? There are currently no waiver wire RBs performing those kind of numbers in the non ppr league I own Green in. If there were, they would be rostered.

I guess it depends on the types of leagues you're in, doesn't it? Non PPR with large rosters and lots of teams you're right, there probably isn't anyone better.

PPR leagues with tight rosters, that's a whole different ball of wax.

 

[Da Guru]

I believe they want to see if Morency can be the feature RB in the futture and will give him at least half the carries from here on in.

 

[Todem]

Green is their best back and gives them their best chance to win. Green is a proven veteran and has looked great thus far.

Before Monday night, I would have agreed with you on this. But after watching the kid in his first extended action, I'm not so sure. He looked much quicker that Green exploding through the hole. He got around the end on one play that Green hasn't been able to do since the very first play of the season. I'm not writing Green off by any means, but he looked shaky against the Saints and didn't fare very well running the ball against the Lions. If he continues to struggle, and Morency keeps looking like he looked Monday night, I would not be suprised to see a slow changing of the guard at RB.

It might play out that way. I need to see Morency a lot more though. Of course he is quicker, all the younger guy's are quicker as they should be. I just think Green still has a decent amount left in the tank. The hamstring does bother me though. He has been a pleasent suprise in PPR HP leagues so i hope he can continue to be a nice value for me. I picked him up dirt cheap in a couple of my dynasty leagues, and in the late 6th in a redraft.

 

[Ahmad Rashad]

What's Green's contract status? Could Morency be the starter next year with Green leaving?

 

[Kleck.]

What's Green's contract status? Could Morency be the starter next year with Green leaving?

1 year deal. I have not heard of any extensions thus far.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

What's Green's contract status? Could Morency be the starter next year with Green leaving?

That's tough to call. Last year there were many people here claiming that Gado would be the starter with the Packers this year.

 

[Kleck.]

What's Green's contract status? Could Morency be the starter next year with Green leaving?

That's tough to call. Last year there were many people here claiming that Gado would be the starter with the Packers this year.

And many held strong with that opinion all Spring, Summer and a few even into the season. The Gado faithful were certainly ready for him to be the starter, it's just too bad for them that Gado wasn't ready.