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RBs to Exploit/Avoid week 7 (1 Viewer)

lion_crazz said:
MOP, I am curious as to what you think about Parker as well. I have watched Steelers game this year, and FWP looks like he is missing the "F" many times whereas, Mendenhall has come in and done exactly what they drafted him for. Do you think, barring injury, there is anyway Parker gets back in there?
I absolutely think Parker will see time as the starter at some point. This week against Minnesota I am not so sure about either Mendy or Parker to be honest. I go back and forth on whether the Pitt/MN game will be high scoring or low scoring. If it becomes a shootout then we might see a lot of Mewelde Moore as he fits that gameplan best.
While I respect your opinion, I disagree with you about Parker. Yes, I'm a Mendenhall owner. However, Parker simply hasn't been effective as a starter in quite some time (dating back to last year). Why would he all of a sudden get hot and take away the job recently granted (rightfully) to Mendenhall?
 
San Fran at Houston (-3) (44)

Here is a big problem for Houston this weekend, they really cannot stop the run too well. Jones and Washington ravaged them in week1, Chris Johnson had a career day week 2, MJD scored 3 rushing TDs in week 3, then Oakland and Arizona did not do much although they are weak rushing offenses so I don’t read much into it however they did hold down Cedric Benson this past weekend. I know people are on the Cinci band wagon but I have not really been one of them and I think whether it is Coffey or Gore that San Fran will run the ball and run the ball effectively this weekend.

Slaton is top10 right now. 14, 22, 15, 26…he’s top10 for sure right now over the past 4 weeks in fact this is likely top5 over the past 4 weeks, he’s red hot and he was in big trouble early in the season. Now the Niners can shut down the run. As long as Slaton gets 7-8 targets and 5-6 receptions he will turn a profit for owners this weekend although he will have his work cut out for him.

Final Score: San Fran 20…Houston 19

While your prediction may come true because Gore is a strong runner, you are really underestimating the Texans run defense. First, let's look at the stats, Washington and Jones did not "ravage" the Texans defense. Jones had 107 yards rushing with 2TDs, one of the TD came on a fourth quarter 39 yard break away. The score was 21 - 7 with the only score for Houston from the Texans defense. Sanchez threw for 272 yards with 1 TD and Jones ran for a 1 yard TD.

Chris Johnson had 197 yards rushing with 2tds. One of those runs was a 91 yard TD and the other was a 57 yard TD. My math may be rusty but take those big plays out and he has a 49 yards rushing. Johnson also had a TD on a reception which the Texan defense left him totally uncovered.

MJD had 119 yards with 3TDs including one rushing TD for 61 yards. The other two were for 1 yard and 8 yards. He is the workhorse for that team and the number of carries which he has is insane.

The Texans acquired Pollard in Week 4. While his pass coverage is suspect, he is known as a hard hitting safety. Cushing (rookie) missed all of preseason due to an injury. He is becoming an very dominating LB (if he stays healthy - I can provide his stats if you would like). And lets not forget about Ryans if anyone plays in IDP leagues.

Since the first three games, the yardages were the following: Oakland 24 yards rushing, Arizona 24 yards and Cincy 44 yards. I am well aware of the Texans deficiencies on defense. however, if Hill cannot, or the coaching staff chooses to, not to go vertical. I do not think it will be a free for all for Gore or Coffee, which ever one you want to use. The Texans' defense has a propensity to give up the big plan. If they do, Gore could have a big and rich day but it is not because the rush defense is anemic.

Benson did not lack heart. Palmer was not effective going vertical.

Also, (JMO) on another note, if you are in a PPR league, Slaton may be gold. The Texans have start throwing to him in the flat or on screens with blitzes to get him into space.

Just as a disclaimer, I am a Texan fan and an Oiler fan before than. I also have Gore on three different teams so I would love for him to go off. I am having a crappy fantasy season due to injuries. Just food for thought.

 
San Fran at Houston (-3) (44)Here is a big problem for Houston this weekend, they really cannot stop the run too well. Jones and Washington ravaged them in week1, Chris Johnson had a career day week 2, MJD scored 3 rushing TDs in week 3, then Oakland and Arizona did not do much although they are weak rushing offenses so I don’t read much into it however they did hold down Cedric Benson this past weekend. I know people are on the Cinci band wagon but I have not really been one of them and I think whether it is Coffey or Gore that San Fran will run the ball and run the ball effectively this weekend.Slaton is top10 right now. 14, 22, 15, 26…he’s top10 for sure right now over the past 4 weeks in fact this is likely top5 over the past 4 weeks, he’s red hot and he was in big trouble early in the season. Now the Niners can shut down the run. As long as Slaton gets 7-8 targets and 5-6 receptions he will turn a profit for owners this weekend although he will have his work cut out for him.Final Score: San Fran 20…Houston 19While your prediction may come true because Gore is a strong runner, you are really underestimating the Texans run defense. First, let's look at the stats, Washington and Jones did not "ravage" the Texans defense. Jones had 107 yards rushing with 2TDs, one of the TD came on a fourth quarter 39 yard break away. The score was 21 - 7 with the only score for Houston from the Texans defense. Sanchez threw for 272 yards with 1 TD and Jones ran for a 1 yard TD.Chris Johnson had 197 yards rushing with 2tds. One of those runs was a 91 yard TD and the other was a 57 yard TD. My math may be rusty but take those big plays out and he has a 49 yards rushing. Johnson also had a TD on a reception which the Texan defense left him totally uncovered. MJD had 119 yards with 3TDs including one rushing TD for 61 yards. The other two were for 1 yard and 8 yards. He is the workhorse for that team and the number of carries which he has is insane.The Texans acquired Pollard in Week 4. While his pass coverage is suspect, he is known as a hard hitting safety. Cushing (rookie) missed all of preseason due to an injury. He is becoming an very dominating LB (if he stays healthy - I can provide his stats if you would like). And lets not forget about Ryans if anyone plays in IDP leagues.Since the first three games, the yardages were the following: Oakland 24 yards rushing, Arizona 24 yards and Cincy 44 yards. I am well aware of the Texans deficiencies on defense. however, if Hill cannot, or the coaching staff chooses to, not to go vertical. I do not think it will be a free for all for Gore or Coffee, which ever one you want to use. The Texans' defense has a propensity to give up the big plan. If they do, Gore could have a big and rich day but it is not because the rush defense is anemic. Benson did not lack heart. Palmer was not effective going vertical.Also, (JMO) on another note, if you are in a PPR league, Slaton may be gold. The Texans have start throwing to him in the flat or on screens with blitzes to get him into space.Just as a disclaimer, I am a Texan fan and an Oiler fan before than. I also have Gore on three different teams so I would love for him to go off. I am having a crappy fantasy season due to injuries. Just food for thought.
I've read only half of this so far but there is already a pattern my friend. If you take away the long TD in week1, then the longer TD in week 2 and the other long run in week2, then the long TD run week3...you see what I mean? You appear to be fairly new to the Shark Pool and I want to encourage you to post because I can see you have a lot to say about all this and its good to have a spirited debate...but you are going to get crucified in here if you are using that as a crux for your arguement that Houston has a good rush defense. Oakland is almost a throw it out the window as far as examples go. Arizona doesn't rush well on anyone either. And while Benson being held to under 50 yds is something to discuss, I wasn't high on him last week in here and was batted around a bit but I was somewhat right and Benson did not have a good week. I'm not sold on Cinci being a good team but I think San Fran has a formula to win games. They were within 1 play of actually being 5-1 right now and things might look differently. but instead they are being known for the blow out at the hands of the Falcons right now. I believe San Fran will try and establish the run early on, look for a lot of hand offs and an attempt to keep Schaub on the sidelines. They have done it against some other teams. Good luck and please don't be a stranger.
 
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San Fran at Houston (-3) (44)Here is a big problem for Houston this weekend, they really cannot stop the run too well. Jones and Washington ravaged them in week1, Chris Johnson had a career day week 2, MJD scored 3 rushing TDs in week 3, then Oakland and Arizona did not do much although they are weak rushing offenses so I don’t read much into it however they did hold down Cedric Benson this past weekend. I know people are on the Cinci band wagon but I have not really been one of them and I think whether it is Coffey or Gore that San Fran will run the ball and run the ball effectively this weekend.Slaton is top10 right now. 14, 22, 15, 26…he’s top10 for sure right now over the past 4 weeks in fact this is likely top5 over the past 4 weeks, he’s red hot and he was in big trouble early in the season. Now the Niners can shut down the run. As long as Slaton gets 7-8 targets and 5-6 receptions he will turn a profit for owners this weekend although he will have his work cut out for him.Final Score: San Fran 20…Houston 19While your prediction may come true because Gore is a strong runner, you are really underestimating the Texans run defense. First, let's look at the stats, Washington and Jones did not "ravage" the Texans defense. Jones had 107 yards rushing with 2TDs, one of the TD came on a fourth quarter 39 yard break away. The score was 21 - 7 with the only score for Houston from the Texans defense. Sanchez threw for 272 yards with 1 TD and Jones ran for a 1 yard TD.Chris Johnson had 197 yards rushing with 2tds. One of those runs was a 91 yard TD and the other was a 57 yard TD. My math may be rusty but take those big plays out and he has a 49 yards rushing. Johnson also had a TD on a reception which the Texan defense left him totally uncovered. MJD had 119 yards with 3TDs including one rushing TD for 61 yards. The other two were for 1 yard and 8 yards. He is the workhorse for that team and the number of carries which he has is insane.The Texans acquired Pollard in Week 4. While his pass coverage is suspect, he is known as a hard hitting safety. Cushing (rookie) missed all of preseason due to an injury. He is becoming an very dominating LB (if he stays healthy - I can provide his stats if you would like). And lets not forget about Ryans if anyone plays in IDP leagues.Since the first three games, the yardages were the following: Oakland 24 yards rushing, Arizona 24 yards and Cincy 44 yards. I am well aware of the Texans deficiencies on defense. however, if Hill cannot, or the coaching staff chooses to, not to go vertical. I do not think it will be a free for all for Gore or Coffee, which ever one you want to use. The Texans' defense has a propensity to give up the big plan. If they do, Gore could have a big and rich day but it is not because the rush defense is anemic. Benson did not lack heart. Palmer was not effective going vertical.Also, (JMO) on another note, if you are in a PPR league, Slaton may be gold. The Texans have start throwing to him in the flat or on screens with blitzes to get him into space.Just as a disclaimer, I am a Texan fan and an Oiler fan before than. I also have Gore on three different teams so I would love for him to go off. I am having a crappy fantasy season due to injuries. Just food for thought.
I've read only half of this so far but there is already a pattern my friend. If you take away the long TD in week1, then the longer TD in week 2 and the other long run in week2, then the long TD run week3...you see what I mean? You appear to be fairly new to the Shark Pool and I want to encourage you to post because I can see you have a lot to say about all this and its good to have a spirited debate...but you are going to get crucified in here if you are using that as a crux for your arguement that Houston has a good rush defense. Oakland is almost a throw it out the window as far as examples go. Arizona doesn't rush well on anyone either. And while Benson being held to under 50 yds is something to discuss, I wasn't high on him last week in here and was batted around a bit but I was somewhat right and Benson did not have a good week. I'm not sold on Cinci being a good team but I think San Fran has a formula to win games. They were within 1 play of actually being 5-1 right now and things might look differently. but instead they are being known for the blow out at the hands of the Falcons right now. I believe San Fran will try and establish the run early on, look for a lot of hand offs and an attempt to keep Schaub on the sidelines. They have done it against some other teams. Good luck and please don't be a stranger.
I know that I am may be new to this site but I am not new to Fantasy. Also, I actually watch most of the games and all of the Texans games. It seems strange to me that you comment with only reading half of the post and then only taking the part of the post that supports your argument. You clearly did not watch the Texans and Titans game. You are supporting you argument without facts. I am always game for a lively debate. I do it for a living. But, you talk about a pattern. what pattern? It is a known fact that the Texans give up big plays and it is a fact that the secondary is suspect. But, what pattern, does that mean that you should start the returners guys, in a league that gives points for return yards, for anyone that plays the Chargers because Eddie Royal returned a kickoff return for 93 yards and a punt for 71 yards. I have not posted on your thread regarding whether to start a sleeper WR against Houston. Why, because their secondary is suspect. And yes, SFO will continue to attempt to establish the run. Singletary believes in the run and will continue to try and establish the run every game. But the issue becomes, can they run against the box and make the safeties respect SFO's WRs. I am not saying that Gore will not have a good game and I am not saying, like you are assert, that the Texans are a good defense. They are not. But, IMO, they are not the porous rushing defense which you are promoting. The defensive backs in Houston have been suspect. Hill is an issue. Using your reasoning with AZ and OAK, you could throw out SFO's passing game because no receiver on SFO has had more than 75 yards receiving and Hill has only thrown for 200 yards one time this year against AZ. Therefore, the Texans do not have to worry about the deep threat and can load the box and have their DBs play up. JMOThe bottom line is we don't know. It is nothing more than an educated guess and I will be happy as a Gore owner for around 75 yards rushing a TD and a few yards passing. If he gets more, I will be happy. The problem is that the Houston defense is like Dr. Jerkl and Mr Hyde. However, while young, the LBs are no longer bad. So I guess, we will have to wait until game time to see who shows up. Take care
 
In regards to the talk about Benson, I am wondering if a trend could develop with the Cincinnati offense against cover 2 defenses. In fact, he will face a true cover 2 vs Chicago this week. I think it's early to concllude this, but Cleveland and Denver gave them problems.

 
San Fran at Houston (-3) (44)Here is a big problem for Houston this weekend, they really cannot stop the run too well. Jones and Washington ravaged them in week1, Chris Johnson had a career day week 2, MJD scored 3 rushing TDs in week 3, then Oakland and Arizona did not do much although they are weak rushing offenses so I don’t read much into it however they did hold down Cedric Benson this past weekend. I know people are on the Cinci band wagon but I have not really been one of them and I think whether it is Coffey or Gore that San Fran will run the ball and run the ball effectively this weekend.Slaton is top10 right now. 14, 22, 15, 26…he’s top10 for sure right now over the past 4 weeks in fact this is likely top5 over the past 4 weeks, he’s red hot and he was in big trouble early in the season. Now the Niners can shut down the run. As long as Slaton gets 7-8 targets and 5-6 receptions he will turn a profit for owners this weekend although he will have his work cut out for him.Final Score: San Fran 20…Houston 19While your prediction may come true because Gore is a strong runner, you are really underestimating the Texans run defense. First, let's look at the stats, Washington and Jones did not "ravage" the Texans defense. Jones had 107 yards rushing with 2TDs, one of the TD came on a fourth quarter 39 yard break away. The score was 21 - 7 with the only score for Houston from the Texans defense. Sanchez threw for 272 yards with 1 TD and Jones ran for a 1 yard TD.Chris Johnson had 197 yards rushing with 2tds. One of those runs was a 91 yard TD and the other was a 57 yard TD. My math may be rusty but take those big plays out and he has a 49 yards rushing. Johnson also had a TD on a reception which the Texan defense left him totally uncovered. MJD had 119 yards with 3TDs including one rushing TD for 61 yards. The other two were for 1 yard and 8 yards. He is the workhorse for that team and the number of carries which he has is insane.The Texans acquired Pollard in Week 4. While his pass coverage is suspect, he is known as a hard hitting safety. Cushing (rookie) missed all of preseason due to an injury. He is becoming an very dominating LB (if he stays healthy - I can provide his stats if you would like). And lets not forget about Ryans if anyone plays in IDP leagues.Since the first three games, the yardages were the following: Oakland 24 yards rushing, Arizona 24 yards and Cincy 44 yards. I am well aware of the Texans deficiencies on defense. however, if Hill cannot, or the coaching staff chooses to, not to go vertical. I do not think it will be a free for all for Gore or Coffee, which ever one you want to use. The Texans' defense has a propensity to give up the big plan. If they do, Gore could have a big and rich day but it is not because the rush defense is anemic. Benson did not lack heart. Palmer was not effective going vertical.Also, (JMO) on another note, if you are in a PPR league, Slaton may be gold. The Texans have start throwing to him in the flat or on screens with blitzes to get him into space.Just as a disclaimer, I am a Texan fan and an Oiler fan before than. I also have Gore on three different teams so I would love for him to go off. I am having a crappy fantasy season due to injuries. Just food for thought.
I've read only half of this so far but there is already a pattern my friend. If you take away the long TD in week1, then the longer TD in week 2 and the other long run in week2, then the long TD run week3...you see what I mean? You appear to be fairly new to the Shark Pool and I want to encourage you to post because I can see you have a lot to say about all this and its good to have a spirited debate...but you are going to get crucified in here if you are using that as a crux for your arguement that Houston has a good rush defense. Oakland is almost a throw it out the window as far as examples go. Arizona doesn't rush well on anyone either. And while Benson being held to under 50 yds is something to discuss, I wasn't high on him last week in here and was batted around a bit but I was somewhat right and Benson did not have a good week. I'm not sold on Cinci being a good team but I think San Fran has a formula to win games. They were within 1 play of actually being 5-1 right now and things might look differently. but instead they are being known for the blow out at the hands of the Falcons right now. I believe San Fran will try and establish the run early on, look for a lot of hand offs and an attempt to keep Schaub on the sidelines. They have done it against some other teams. Good luck and please don't be a stranger.
I know that I am may be new to this site but I am not new to Fantasy. Also, I actually watch most of the games and all of the Texans games. It seems strange to me that you comment with only reading half of the post and then only taking the part of the post that supports your argument. You clearly did not watch the Texans and Titans game. You are supporting you argument without facts. I am always game for a lively debate. I do it for a living. But, you talk about a pattern. what pattern? It is a known fact that the Texans give up big plays and it is a fact that the secondary is suspect. But, what pattern, does that mean that you should start the returners guys, in a league that gives points for return yards, for anyone that plays the Chargers because Eddie Royal returned a kickoff return for 93 yards and a punt for 71 yards. I have not posted on your thread regarding whether to start a sleeper WR against Houston. Why, because their secondary is suspect. And yes, SFO will continue to attempt to establish the run. Singletary believes in the run and will continue to try and establish the run every game. But the issue becomes, can they run against the box and make the safeties respect SFO's WRs. I am not saying that Gore will not have a good game and I am not saying, like you are assert, that the Texans are a good defense. They are not. But, IMO, they are not the porous rushing defense which you are promoting. The defensive backs in Houston have been suspect. Hill is an issue. Using your reasoning with AZ and OAK, you could throw out SFO's passing game because no receiver on SFO has had more than 75 yards receiving and Hill has only thrown for 200 yards one time this year against AZ. Therefore, the Texans do not have to worry about the deep threat and can load the box and have their DBs play up. JMOThe bottom line is we don't know. It is nothing more than an educated guess and I will be happy as a Gore owner for around 75 yards rushing a TD and a few yards passing. If he gets more, I will be happy. The problem is that the Houston defense is like Dr. Jerkl and Mr Hyde. However, while young, the LBs are no longer bad. So I guess, we will have to wait until game time to see who shows up. Take care
I think if you read what I posted, the 2nd paragraph I went right on to talk about the rest of your post and I responded to each and every example you made. Sometimes I start writing while I am reading, same as a movie critic will jot things down while the movie is playing. I was just wanting to show a pattern in what you were showing which was a lot of long runs...I guess its really hard for me to agree with you that Houston is a stout rush defense. Yes stats wise they have done well the past 3 weeks, I agree but Oak is nothing to use as a measuring stick, AZ is weak rushing the ball, and Cinci is a decent notch on the belt but I think at the end of the year we will look back and not see that as anything to hang their hat on.We'll see like you said this weekend, good luck to you.
 
lion_crazz said:
MOP, I am curious as to what you think about Parker as well. I have watched Steelers game this year, and FWP looks like he is missing the "F" many times whereas, Mendenhall has come in and done exactly what they drafted him for. Do you think, barring injury, there is anyway Parker gets back in there?
I absolutely think Parker will see time as the starter at some point. This week against Minnesota I am not so sure about either Mendy or Parker to be honest. I go back and forth on whether the Pitt/MN game will be high scoring or low scoring. If it becomes a shootout then we might see a lot of Mewelde Moore as he fits that gameplan best.
I really don't know if you have been watching the games - as I think you're way off on this one . . .Parker brought NOTHING to the table last week in his return, and he even admitted he's not healthy . . . earlier this year he had already shown he had slowed down . . . he didnt help his cause by fumbling last week (Rashard did as well) . . .

Parker is 29 and on his way out - some predicted he'd start last week but he didn't . . .

Parker is almost done . . .

 
San Fran at Houston (-3) (44)While your prediction may come true because Gore is a strong runner, you are really underestimating the Texans run defense. First, let's look at the stats, Washington and Jones did not "ravage" the Texans defense. Jones had 107 yards rushing with 2TDs, one of the TD came on a fourth quarter 39 yard break away. The score was 21 - 7 with the only score for Houston from the Texans defense. Sanchez threw for 272 yards with 1 TD and Jones ran for a 1 yard TD.Chris Johnson had 197 yards rushing with 2tds. One of those runs was a 91 yard TD and the other was a 57 yard TD. My math may be rusty but take those big plays out and he has a 49 yards rushing. Johnson also had a TD on a reception which the Texan defense left him totally uncovered.
Ah, the old "Take away the part where a guy did good and what's left is the part where he didn't do good, thus proving he didn't do good" argument. Unassailable logic.
 
I was doing a little research this morning on Turner with away games.

He has avg about 11 PPG on the road...pretty pedestrian. Add in a fairly tough match up and I don't see how Turner makes the top10 this week. He did have a great game on the road two weeks ago but he doesn't typically have monster games outside. Don't be surprised if guys like Larry Johnson and Leon Washington have better days.

 
Portis is on my bench this week (starting Cadillac) for the sole reason of injuries. He has so many things wrong with his lower legs that he is one good hit away from sitting out the rest of the game. The Eagles are certainly capable of delivering that one extra hard hit. Playing Portis today would be risky.

"Clinton Portis did not practice on Thursday. Jason Reid, of The Washington Post, reports Portis said he is dealing with several different problems with his right leg. "It's just my right leg. I've got plantar faciitis, an ankle, the inside of my MCL, and a calf all on my right leg. So if I can get a new lower leg, I'll be fine," Portis said. Reid also reports Portis said he is not worried about the running game with team consultant Sherman Lewis now calling the plays. "It ain't hard, I mean, you either run gut, counter, stretch, toss, dive, or draw," Portis said. "You can call it however you want to call it, but them are the only runs in football. For him to be an offensive coordinator for as long as he has, I'm sure he knows that as well. Maybe it's the formations. I don't know why he would say that, but I don't think it's too hard to call the running game.""

Swamp

 
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Big fat bump to give propers to Mdawg's spot-on analysis of the Texans run defense.

I meant to echo his take last week but real life got in the way so I never got around to it, but I was definitely in the "don't sleep on the Texans run d" camp.

Yes, big runs for TDs count, and the Houston safeties were woeful at gap integrity and tackling in the first couple of weeks when they were embarrassed by Thomas Jones, Chris Johnson, and MJD. However, even then the defense was playing much better than it had in the past two years when they were suffering death by a thousand cuts because of an unimaginative, passive scheme that allowed opposing offenses to control the ball for long drives.

Frank Bush has dialed up the pressure and the Texans defenders are winning their individual battles. The talent was there, it was just a matter of discipline, team chemistry, and getting healthy (i.e. Jacques Reeves).

Don't assume that you can just start any RB against this defense. They are better than their early season performance indicates.

 
Big fat bump to give propers to Mdawg's spot-on analysis of the Texans run defense.I meant to echo his take last week but real life got in the way so I never got around to it, but I was definitely in the "don't sleep on the Texans run d" camp. Yes, big runs for TDs count, and the Houston safeties were woeful at gap integrity and tackling in the first couple of weeks when they were embarrassed by Thomas Jones, Chris Johnson, and MJD. However, even then the defense was playing much better than it had in the past two years when they were suffering death by a thousand cuts because of an unimaginative, passive scheme that allowed opposing offenses to control the ball for long drives. Frank Bush has dialed up the pressure and the Texans defenders are winning their individual battles. The talent was there, it was just a matter of discipline, team chemistry, and getting healthy (i.e. Jacques Reeves).Don't assume that you can just start any RB against this defense. They are better than their early season performance indicates.
Definite trend here, and as another poster pointed out above, Benson exploded yesterday so that would make the Benson shutout two weeks ago even more decisive for you guys.
 

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