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Redraft: who are your top 5 or so QB, RB, WR (1 Viewer)
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bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Manning
Palmer
Brees
Bulger
McNabb
LT
Sjax
LJ
Westy (ppr)
Salex
SSmith
ChadJ
Fitz
TO
Holt
Marv
Gates
KW2
Shockey
Gonzo
Heap
Palmer
Brees
Bulger
McNabb
LT
Sjax
LJ
Westy (ppr)
Salex
SSmith
ChadJ
Fitz
TO
Holt
Marv
Gates
KW2
Shockey
Gonzo
Heap
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Haven't given it much thought but...
PPR league. -1 for turnovers.
QB
1. Manning
2. Brady
3. Palmer
4. Kitna
5. Brees
RB
1. LT
2. Jackson
3. Gore
4. Parker
5. Westbrook
WR
1. Holt
2. Harrison
3. Chad Johnson
4. Steve Smith
5. Roy Williams
TE
1. Gates
2. Winslow
3. Gonzalez
4. Heap
5. Witten/Watson/Graham/Vernon Davis
PPR league. -1 for turnovers.
QB
1. Manning
2. Brady
3. Palmer
4. Kitna
5. Brees
RB
1. LT
2. Jackson
3. Gore
4. Parker
5. Westbrook
WR
1. Holt
2. Harrison
3. Chad Johnson
4. Steve Smith
5. Roy Williams
TE
1. Gates
2. Winslow
3. Gonzalez
4. Heap
5. Witten/Watson/Graham/Vernon Davis
burd
Footballguy
Manning
Brees
Palmer
Kitna
Brady (I don't see him throwing for more than 4000 yards like the 4 players above)
LT
SJax
Alexander
Parker
LJ (I think his production will be affected by a KC team that will be playing from behind in a lot of games)
CJohnson
Holt
Harrison
RoyWilliams
TO
Brees
Palmer
Kitna
Brady (I don't see him throwing for more than 4000 yards like the 4 players above)
LT
SJax
Alexander
Parker
LJ (I think his production will be affected by a KC team that will be playing from behind in a lot of games)
CJohnson
Holt
Harrison
RoyWilliams
TO
QBPalmerManningBreesMcNabbVick (was 3rd QB in my league last yr w/ the rushing yds)RBLTLJSJWestbrookAlexanderWRChadSteveMarvinLarry FitzTorry Holt
LionsFan78
Footballguy
No way I'd rank Ronnie Brown that high.
Kidding.Not auction. Just finished working all of mine out, here's what top 5 are...Also, don't do or believe in PPR...to each his own.Ladainian Tomlinson, SDSteven Jackson, STLFrank Gore, SFLarry Johnson, KCBrian Westbrook, PHICalv...just kidding. Chad Johnson, CINSteve Smith, CARReggie Wayne, INDLarry Fitzgerald, ARITorry Holt, STLPeyton Manning, INDDonovan McNabb, PHI Carson Palmer, CINMarc Bulger, STLDrew Brees, NO
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Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
You guys are too high on McNabb.
LionsFan78
Footballguy
I can't call you a liar my friend. I'm imagining a world where he can stay healthy for a season. In that scenario, he fits right in under Peyton. Me personally, if I can live with having to use a pick for insurance, I have no problem with him at 2.
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Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
If he's healthy, then yes he deserves a high ranking. I just don't think he will be.
LionsFan78
Footballguy
curious. Do you put Portis in the same category?
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
How so? Ranked high if healthy? Yes.
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einstein2u
Footballguy
QB:
Manning
Palmer
Brees
Brady
Bulger
RB:
SJax
LT
Gore
LJ
Henry
WR:
Smith
Fitz
CJ
TO
Reggie
Manning
Palmer
Brees
Brady
Bulger
RB:
SJax
LT
Gore
LJ
Henry
WR:
Smith
Fitz
CJ
TO
Reggie
doomsdaydoc
Footballguy
Manning
Brees
Palmer
Brady
McNabb if healthy, otherwise Bulger
(possibly Kitna)
LT
SJ
Gore
LJ
Westbrook in ppr, otherwise Parker
(possible candidates to watch- Thomas Jones, Addai, Maroney,Henry)
I would not put Portis here even if healthy since Betts showed enough last season that he will get significant touches no matter what.
Steve Smith
Chad Johnson
TO
Holt
Boldin
Javon Walker
Gates
Heap
Shockey
Gonzo
Winslow only if healthy
Brees
Palmer
Brady
McNabb if healthy, otherwise Bulger
(possibly Kitna)
LT
SJ
Gore
LJ
Westbrook in ppr, otherwise Parker
(possible candidates to watch- Thomas Jones, Addai, Maroney,Henry)
I would not put Portis here even if healthy since Betts showed enough last season that he will get significant touches no matter what.
Steve Smith
Chad Johnson
TO
Holt
Boldin
Javon Walker
Gates
Heap
Shockey
Gonzo
Winslow only if healthy
LionsFan78
Footballguy
Man I'd love to see that. Just too many damn picks though. It would'nt be a shock; he got pretty damn near close last year. Seems like, offensively at least, everything's a bit better than last year. Hopes are always high this time of year though.
he still "hopes" to be ready for training camp. Too dicey for a top 5 ranking.QB:
Manning - Should be a lock for the #1 spot most seasons, barring injury.
Brees - I love the addition of Meachem and think he will be a strong upgrade over Horn; Bush will get a lot of looks too.
Brady - He does it every year without bug name WRs; now he has a few.
Palmer - Fully back from the injury... I think the loss of Henry could hurt.
Leinart - He has the best two starting wideouts in the league and the line should be better this year.
RB:
LT - See Manning; have to go #1 right now.
Jackson - Will get his combo yards like LT.
LJ - Not sure he will finish here, but the touches will be high.
Maroney - I see him as a workhorse on a team that will get him TDs.
Westbrook/Bush - I think Westbrook gets more combo yards, but he is inury prone. I'd take either player here.
WR:
Chad - The man is money; moreso without Henry.
Steve Smith - They will get him a ton of touches.
Andre Johnson - I think he is the best WR talent in the league and will only go up with a QB other than Carr.
Owens - He played hurt last season and put up mad #s.
Holt - Mr consistent.
TE:
Gates - Top WR on the team.
Crumpler - Top WR on the team.
Gonzalez - Top WR on the team.
Winslow - If he is healthy; got a ton of balls thrown to him last season.
Shockey - Winslow like; weill get a bunch of opps.
Manning - Should be a lock for the #1 spot most seasons, barring injury.
Brees - I love the addition of Meachem and think he will be a strong upgrade over Horn; Bush will get a lot of looks too.
Brady - He does it every year without bug name WRs; now he has a few.
Palmer - Fully back from the injury... I think the loss of Henry could hurt.
Leinart - He has the best two starting wideouts in the league and the line should be better this year.
RB:
LT - See Manning; have to go #1 right now.
Jackson - Will get his combo yards like LT.
LJ - Not sure he will finish here, but the touches will be high.
Maroney - I see him as a workhorse on a team that will get him TDs.
Westbrook/Bush - I think Westbrook gets more combo yards, but he is inury prone. I'd take either player here.
WR:
Chad - The man is money; moreso without Henry.
Steve Smith - They will get him a ton of touches.
Andre Johnson - I think he is the best WR talent in the league and will only go up with a QB other than Carr.
Owens - He played hurt last season and put up mad #s.
Holt - Mr consistent.
TE:
Gates - Top WR on the team.
Crumpler - Top WR on the team.
Gonzalez - Top WR on the team.
Winslow - If he is healthy; got a ton of balls thrown to him last season.
Shockey - Winslow like; weill get a bunch of opps.
Blackjacks
Footballguy
I'll give it a try
qb
P. Manning
Bulger
Brady
Palmer
E. Manning
rb
LT
S-Jax
Maroney
Westbrook
Bush
wr
Holt
S. Smith
R. Wayne
Chad Johnson
Roy Williams
te
Gates
Heap
Shockey
V. Davis
L.J. Smith
qb
P. Manning
Bulger
Brady
Palmer
E. Manning
rb
LT
S-Jax
Maroney
Westbrook
Bush
wr
Holt
S. Smith
R. Wayne
Chad Johnson
Roy Williams
te
Gates
Heap
Shockey
V. Davis
L.J. Smith
AnonymousBob
Footballguy
Looks like Vick will be undervalued yet again!
jurb26
Footballguy
And Holt will be overrated again.
AnonymousBob
Footballguy
Holt didn't finish as a top 5 wr last year?
bostonfred
Footballguy
Brady
Manning
Palmer
Bulger
McNabb/Kitna
Tomlinson
Jackson
Addai
Bush
Henry
Terrell Owens
Steve Smith
Chad Johnson
Torry Holt
Marvin Harrison
Gates
Gonzo
Heap
Winslow
Shockey
Manning
Palmer
Bulger
McNabb/Kitna
Tomlinson
Jackson
Addai
Bush
Henry
Terrell Owens
Steve Smith
Chad Johnson
Torry Holt
Marvin Harrison
Gates
Gonzo
Heap
Winslow
Shockey
jurb26
Footballguy
No and he only has 1 top 5 finish in his career.
Reservoir Dog
Footballguy
QB
1. P.Manning
2. D.Brees
3. C.Palmer
4. T.Brady
5. D.McNabb
runner-up
T.Romo, J.Kitna, M.Hasselback
RB
1. L.Tomlinson
2. F.Gore
3. L.Johnson
4. S.Jackson
5. C.Portis
runner-up
W.Parker, B.Westbrook, S.Alexander
WR
1. T.Holt
2. Steve Smith -Carolina
3. Chad Johnson
4. Roy Williams
5. Randy Moss
runner-up
M.Harrison, Reggie Wayne, T.Owens
TE
1. A.Gates
2. T.Heap
3. J.Shockey
4. Vernon Davis
5. T.Gonzo
runner-up
K.Winslow, A.Crumpler, L.J. Smith
1. P.Manning
2. D.Brees
3. C.Palmer
4. T.Brady
5. D.McNabb
runner-up
T.Romo, J.Kitna, M.Hasselback
RB
1. L.Tomlinson
2. F.Gore
3. L.Johnson
4. S.Jackson
5. C.Portis
runner-up
W.Parker, B.Westbrook, S.Alexander
WR
1. T.Holt
2. Steve Smith -Carolina
3. Chad Johnson
4. Roy Williams
5. Randy Moss
runner-up
M.Harrison, Reggie Wayne, T.Owens
TE
1. A.Gates
2. T.Heap
3. J.Shockey
4. Vernon Davis
5. T.Gonzo
runner-up
K.Winslow, A.Crumpler, L.J. Smith
Blackjacks
Footballguy
He has been in the top eight 6 out of 8 years however. I'll take that consistancy all day. Find me another guy that has been that consistent except Marvin Harrison.
jurb26
Footballguy
Yet Harrison is not even in your top 5....I went through this debate last year, don't really feel like it again. Bottom line, draft Harrison if consistency is what you are after. He offers it 10 fold over Holt and actually has #1 WR potential.
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Blackjacks
Footballguy
I can't disagree with you. Marvin is the ageless wonder and I keep thinking Wayne will take over but Harrison is just great. However back to the Holt arguement just cause one guy tops his #'s doesn't mean you should bash on him.
jurb26
Footballguy
I'm not bashing. I just don't see any reason for him to be in the top 3. Year after year we see him not just in the top 3, but #1. It just doesn't make sense. I've got no problem with Holt at 5 or so.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
this debate again? Marv vs holt ? both will be top 8. Period
jurb26
Footballguy
Fantasy finishes over career:Harrison:
Code:
Year Value Pos. Rank Overall Rank--------------------------------------------------1996 17 21 541997 7 25 661998 0 31 811999 119 1 72000 115 2 72001 114 1 52002 119 1 62003 83 5 152004 74 5 172005 70 9 182006 92 1 8
Code:
Year Value Pos. Rank Overall Rank--------------------------------------------------1999 0 35 862000 90 7 172001 49 8 292002 36 15 442003 138 2 62004 70 7 192005 71 6 152006 63 6 19
LionsFan78
Footballguy
Tough call man. You know, I said the same of LJ Smith last year (not saying he's a 'stud'). I personally think it's the nature of the position. Most are going to be inconsistent at times.BigRed said:
Big Score
Footballguy
Maybe people are prognosticating a possible suspension for Vick & are unsure of the offenses direction under Petrino?
Warpig
Footballguy
Fixed.Gore + Norv Turner =Andy Dufresne said:
Gore - Norv Turner + Darrell Jackson =
QB's
Manning
Brees
Palmer
Brady
Bulger
just missed: Romo
sleeper: Grossman
RB's
LT
Rudi
SJax
LJ
SA
just missed: Portis
sleepers: Addai and Maroney
WR's
CJohnson
Owens
Harrison
Holt
S Smith
just missed: Wayne
sleepers: Brandon Jackson
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AnonymousBob
Footballguy
What scoring system are you using? Per fbg's (and their scoring system is fairly standard), Holt finished as the #5 wr last year. If you're checking his stats on a ppg basis then he finished as the wr #8.
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AnonymousBob
Footballguy
I'd be okay if that was the reason people were dropping Vick in their rankings. I tend to think most people are simply underestimating the value of a scrambling qb but the possible suspension is a concern.
jurb26
Footballguy
What in the world are you talking about? Here is where I'm getting the stats. I believe FBG uses this same scoring system as profootballreference.What scoring system are you using? Per fbg's (and their scoring system is fairly standard), Holt finished as the #5 wr last year. If you're checking his stats on a ppg basis then he finished as the wr #8. That's quite different from the 16th best wr you have listed in your stats below.
Blackjacks
Footballguy
I'm with you jurbWhat in the world are you talking about? Here is where I'm getting the stats. I believe FBG uses this same scoring system as profootballreference.What scoring system are you using? Per fbg's (and their scoring system is fairly standard), Holt finished as the #5 wr last year. If you're checking his stats on a ppg basis then he finished as the wr #8. That's quite different from the 16th best wr you have listed in your stats below.
AnonymousBob
Footballguy
The 16th best was a mistype and I've already corrected that error. I fail to see how picking Holt would be a mistake. Prior to last year, picking Tomlinson with the #1 overall pick would have been a mistake. He had never actually finished as the top rb! At a certain point you realize part of what makes a player worthy of spending a top pick is their guaranteed consistency.What in the world are you talking about? Here is where I'm getting the stats. I believe FBG uses this same scoring system as profootballreference.What scoring system are you using? Per fbg's (and their scoring system is fairly standard), Holt finished as the #5 wr last year. If you're checking his stats on a ppg basis then he finished as the wr #8. That's quite different from the 16th best wr you have listed in your stats below.
Is Peyton going to finish as the top qb every year? Absolutely not. Barring injury he will be amongst the scoring leaders at his respective position. It's the same thing with Holt. He WILL finish no worse than top eight and he has as good a chance as the other top wr's to finish in the top spot.
BigRed
Footballguy
..and most are therefore relatively cheap in price/drafted position. Guess that's what I'm saying, ie Shockey isn't worth the money for those 1 or 2 weeks he blows up.
-OZ-
Footballguy
Fair enough. I'm expecting him to benefit from the loss of Tiki, by getting his fair share of Tiki's 58 receptions. The RBs aren't good receivers, Plaxico is inconsistent, and the youngsters haven't stepped up yet.
Whiplash Inc.
Footballguy
QB
1. P. Manning
2. C. Palmer
3. D. Brees
4. T. Brady
5. D. McNabb
RB
1. L. Tomlinson
2. S. Jackson
3. L. Johnson
4. F. Gore
5. C. Portis (Westbrook in ppr)
WR
1. C. Johnson
2. S. Smith
3. T. Holt
4. J. Walker
5. R. Wayne
TE
1. A. Gates
2. T. Heap
3. K Winslow
4. V. Davis
5. J. Shockey
1. P. Manning
2. C. Palmer
3. D. Brees
4. T. Brady
5. D. McNabb
RB
1. L. Tomlinson
2. S. Jackson
3. L. Johnson
4. F. Gore
5. C. Portis (Westbrook in ppr)
WR
1. C. Johnson
2. S. Smith
3. T. Holt
4. J. Walker
5. R. Wayne
TE
1. A. Gates
2. T. Heap
3. K Winslow
4. V. Davis
5. J. Shockey
bcr8f
Footballguy
I'm not so sure. The injury last year seemed a fluke. I think he'll dial back the running some and be OK.
