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Reds fire GM (1 Viewer)

It was only a matter of time after the Jocketty hiring. I think Krivsky's made some pretty good moves. :mellow:

 
It was only a matter of time after the Jocketty hiring. I think Krivsky's made some pretty good moves. :pickle:
I am not sure if you live in or near Cincy, but fans around here are STILL steamed about trading fan-favorites Kearns and Lopez in 2006 for a bunch of injured garbage. I know it was imminent with Jocketty's hiring, and only a hot start this season could have saved him. I'm just saying he was never able to run away from that trade, in a season where they could have made a playoff run, but chose to dump two of their crucial players necessary to make that run.
 
Fire the GM after he's helped build a young core of

Brandon Phillips

Jay Bruce

Joey Votto

Johnny Cueto

Edison Volquez

Homer Bailey

Jeff Keppinger

Edwin Encarnacion

To team with the veterans

Aaron Harang

Ken Griffey

Adam Dunn

Francisco Cordero

Yea, that makes sense. Maybe it'd be a better idea to not have hired the guy who hadn't realized his leadoff CF was mired in a 1-for-28 slump until a reporter brought it to his attention, brought said leadoff hitter to the team even with a young stud in tow, and pleaded for another over-the-hill vet to execute his option while another young stud was waiting to take over (Votto). Yes, complete sense.

 
It was only a matter of time after the Jocketty hiring. I think Krivsky's made some pretty good moves. :goodposting:
I am not sure if you live in or near Cincy, but fans around here are STILL steamed about trading fan-favorites Kearns and Lopez in 2006 for a bunch of injured garbage. I know it was imminent with Jocketty's hiring, and only a hot start this season could have saved him. I'm just saying he was never able to run away from that trade, in a season where they could have made a playoff run, but chose to dump two of their crucial players necessary to make that run.
Yes, I live here. People are morons for not putting that behind them. We needed pitching. Kearns had 16 homers last year in almost 600 ABs. Lopez lost the starting job this spring.
 
Jocketty was pretty crafty during his time in St. Louis, but our farm teams during his tenure always sucked, save for one superstud every year (i.e Rick Ankiel, Jimmy Journell, Colby Rasmus).

 
Jocketty was pretty crafty during his time in St. Louis,
Blake Stein for Mark McGwire; Adam Kennedy and Bottenfield for Jim Edmonds; Polance for Rolen.Signing an injured Chris Carpenter and then rehabbing him into a Cy Young.Jocketty got (crap) done.It seems like St. Louis gave him a lot of grief for the Haren/Mulder trade, but despite that he has a pretty good track record.
 
I have mixed feelings about this...I never liked Kriv Dawg until this past offseason. Not sure what it was but he started to win me over and I was a little disappointed they brought Jocketty in.

I read recently that there was some tug of power wars going on between the front office and the field managers trying to get the guys they wanted on the field.

I don't think he will be out of work for long. I think he did a pretty tremendous job...although I think his personality didn't mesh well with Castellini.

 
MAC_32 said:
Fire the GM after he's helped build a young core ofBrandon PhillipsJay BruceJoey VottoJohnny CuetoEdison VolquezHomer BaileyJeff KeppingerEdwin EncarnacionTo team with the veteransAaron HarangKen GriffeyAdam DunnFrancisco CorderoYea, that makes sense. Maybe it'd be a better idea to not have hired the guy who hadn't realized his leadoff CF was mired in a 1-for-28 slump until a reporter brought it to his attention, brought said leadoff hitter to the team even with a young stud in tow, and pleaded for another over-the-hill vet to execute his option while another young stud was waiting to take over (Votto). Yes, complete sense.
I don't have the time to look it up right now, but with the exception of Volquez, Phillips, and Cordero, weren't most of those guys in the system before Krivsky came over to the Reds??
 
MAC_32 said:
Fire the GM after he's helped build a young core ofBrandon PhillipsJay BruceJoey VottoJohnny CuetoEdison VolquezHomer BaileyJeff KeppingerEdwin EncarnacionTo team with the veteransAaron HarangKen GriffeyAdam DunnFrancisco CorderoYea, that makes sense. Maybe it'd be a better idea to not have hired the guy who hadn't realized his leadoff CF was mired in a 1-for-28 slump until a reporter brought it to his attention, brought said leadoff hitter to the team even with a young stud in tow, and pleaded for another over-the-hill vet to execute his option while another young stud was waiting to take over (Votto). Yes, complete sense.
I don't have the time to look it up right now, but with the exception of Volquez, Phillips, and Cordero, weren't most of those guys in the system before Krivsky came over to the Reds??
I didn't realize he had only been with the team for 2 years, I stand corrected. I think that makes this move just as dumb though, sign a GM and fire him in 2 years even though the team is on the way up? Dumb, just dumb.
 
The only bad move, which hasn't burned him yet, is the Kearns/Lopez deal. Not that they have been world beaters, it just seems like he could have gotten more for those guys, but his instinct was right that they were products of the GAB. Cordero could be spotty, especially down the line, but so far so good on that move. Probably too much cash, but they were in the ballpark with the Brewers so he did what it took to get it done.

Cueto and Volquez is a nice legacy, I can't imagine what went on here, probably some spur of the moment pissing match.

 
Jocketty was pretty crafty during his time in St. Louis, but our farm teams during his tenure always sucked, save for one superstud every year (i.e Rick Ankiel, Jimmy Journell, Colby Rasmus).
:bag: What more do you want?
Outside of one shining star, the rest of the farm system was garbage. The Cards never had a solid farm system and it hurt them at times when they tried to plug holes with old timers and long shots. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't. I can't remember the last time we had a solid infield prospect outside of Pujols, who kinda came out of nowhere. Brendan Ryan is ok, but he was never highly touted.
 

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