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Reds sign closer Cordero (1 Viewer)

Another first round pick for the Crew (see Linebrink thread). Would have liked to have kept Coco, but also like seeing a high draft pick in the hands of Jack Z. and his scouts. The Mota acquisition helps a little, but who pitches the ninth now? Turnblow?

 
Another first round pick for the Crew (see Linebrink thread). Would have liked to have kept Coco, but also like seeing a high draft pick in the hands of Jack Z. and his scouts. The Mota acquisition helps a little, but who pitches the ninth now? Turnblow?
Milwaukee sort of gets screwed again. Cinci has the 15th pick, so a second rounder it is, once again for Milwaukee.
 
holy ####, another awful signing. Reds have got to be have one of the worst management of any of the teams

 
holy ####, another awful signing. Reds have got to be have one of the worst management of any of the teams
The money is ridiculous but the Reds have needed a top closer for years now. Ultimately I think its a solid move. Cordero is no stud and is certainly not worth 2nd best closer money but he is def a top 10 closer. Sometimes if you desperately need simething (and the Reds have needed a closer for years now) you gotta pay for it.
 
Teams are signing relievers to ridiculous contracts this year. Wonder how much some team is going to toss at Gagne and Wood.

 
I think the ownership of the Brewers has underestimated Cordero's impact on their success last year. Cordero needed to be their number one priority in the offseason, not signing Jason Kendall. You would have thought that the Brewers had seen enough rag armed catchers when they dispatched Johnny Estrada.

The addition of Mota was a big signal that Cordero wasn't returning. It's likely that Cordero's agent came to the Brewers and gave them the first opportunity to match the Reds offer, the Brewers declined, and went and got Mota.

As of today, the Brewers have reverted to a 77 win team until they can address this closer issue. Mota and Turnbow are nice 7th and 8th inning arms, but aren't 9th inning options.

 
Teams are signing relievers to ridiculous contracts this year. Wonder how much some team is going to toss at Gagne and Wood.
There are rumors that the Red Sox have offered Wood a 3 year deal at market value to do what they wanted Gagne to do last year.
 
holy ####, another awful signing. Reds have got to be have one of the worst management of any of the teams
:homer:
You do realize that 4 years at that price is ridiculous, right?Mariano looking like a steal now...
I was thinking that if the Reds were going to pony up that kind of cheese, they would have offered it to Mariano first. THAT would have been an excellent signing, and would have signaled that the Reds wanted to put together a World Series type of team. Mariano would have electrified the fan base, while Cordero gets the "yeah, that was a good signing I guess....he's better than what we have" reaction.
 
A couple of interesting comments in the Cincy Enquirer this past weekend:

From John Fay:

A Cordero signing isn't going to have people lining up at the ticket windows. But it speaks to the commitment of ownership to try to turn things around.

Trying to turn things around and turning things around are not the same.

But I think Cordero was the right guy to sign. The starting rotation beyond Aaron Harang and Bronson Arroyo remains a question.

The money the Reds are going to pay Cordero probably would not have gotten Kyle Lohse, and he went 9-12 with a 4.62 ERA.

Cordero should help the rotation a bit. With him closing, and David Weathers and Jared Burton in the seventh and eighth innings, the Reds will have some good, young arms - Bill Bray, Marcus McBeth and Jon Coutlangus - to pitch the sixth.

Matt Belisle and Homer Bailey will be much more effective if they don't have to pitch into the seventh to get a win.

That said, I'd still try to trade for a serviceable No. 3 starter.

But getting a closer like Cordero is a good start to the free-agent season.
I agree with this and based on that, I think it is is not only a good signing but money well spent.From Paul Daugherty

The Cordero signing suggests the Reds will not be hunting big-time starting pitching. Any gains there will be made from within. The Reds have money. They don't have that much.

We're reading that the Florida Marlins want two top prospects for Dontrelle Willis. The Reds would be nuts to part with Jay Bruce and (take your pick) Johnny Cueto, Drew Stubbs or Joey Votto for a guy who has had two down years in a row.

That said, they still have chips to play. Josh Hamilton and Ryan Freel top the list, and one of the young guns might be available if there were a match involving pitching. Would you trade Hamilton and Cueto for Willis?
I was thinking the Reds should have backed the money truck up two years ago to make an effort for Josh Beckett. It was a risk because no one knew if he was going to stink up the joint or just needed a change of scenary. It turns out the change did him pretty good.I have sort of thought the same thing about Dontrelle. He has been stuck on a lousy team where even when he had an ERA over 5.00 he was the stud of the rotation being asked to do more than he was capable of. Not suprising that his major drop off came at the same time Beckett left Florida. It seems to me if the Reds could squeeze him into the rotation somewhere after Harang and maybe before or after Arroyo then throw Bailey and Belisle out there they would be a contender.

The question is which two of the young studs down on the farm would you be willing to give up for Willis?

I would have a hard time giving up any of them let alone two. I am not an Adam Dunn basher but maybe I dangle Dunner straight up.

There isn't going to be a lack of good hitting OF's coming up with Hamilton, Norris, Bruce.

 
holy ####, another awful signing. Reds have got to be have one of the worst management of any of the teams
:rolleyes:
You do realize that 4 years at that price is ridiculous, right?Mariano looking like a steal now...
I was thinking that if the Reds were going to pony up that kind of cheese, they would have offered it to Mariano first. THAT would have been an excellent signing, and would have signaled that the Reds wanted to put together a World Series type of team. Mariano would have electrified the fan base, while Cordero gets the "yeah, that was a good signing I guess....he's better than what we have" reaction.
Obviously, I dont speak for everyone, but as a Reds season ticket holder I'm more excited about Cordero than I would be about Rivera.
 
holy ####, another awful signing. Reds have got to be have one of the worst management of any of the teams
:yes:
You do realize that 4 years at that price is ridiculous, right?Mariano looking like a steal now...
I was thinking that if the Reds were going to pony up that kind of cheese, they would have offered it to Mariano first. THAT would have been an excellent signing, and would have signaled that the Reds wanted to put together a World Series type of team. Mariano would have electrified the fan base, while Cordero gets the "yeah, that was a good signing I guess....he's better than what we have" reaction.
Obviously, I dont speak for everyone, but as a Reds season ticket holder I'm more excited about Cordero than I would be about Rivera.
You dont speak for anyone
 

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