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Reds trade Griffey to White Sox (1 Viewer)
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WampusCat43
Footballguy
The bench, from what I hear. Be interesting to see if he's more about the numbers (here) or winning (there).
ericttspikes
Footballguy
Konerko has been brutal this year and Swisher hasn't been great since moving from first after Paulie came back from the DL. Griffey should platoon with Anderson in Center while Konerko and Swisher platoon at first. I'm all for getting Konerko out of the line-up at this point.
Griffey also would help sub for Thome at DH. Obviously not the Griffey of old, but a big lefty bat in the line-up never hurts. What a completely different team to 05. No more small ball here, just mashers.
Griffey also would help sub for Thome at DH. Obviously not the Griffey of old, but a big lefty bat in the line-up never hurts. What a completely different team to 05. No more small ball here, just mashers.
whoknew
Footballguy
That's a bit of a fallacy about the '05 team. That team hit 200 home runs.
BigJohn
Footballguy
I was always hopeful that things could turn around for Griff here in Cinci. I was disapointed hen he was drafted by Seattle. I loved watching him there. I was estatic when they made the trade. Griffey took less money to come here. Once he started to get hurt, everything just fell apart from there. A majority of the fans turned bitter towards him, and he did the same in return. I always felt that he was treated unfairly. Seeing the smiling kid who played for the Mariners disapear was one of my sadder experiences as a Reds fan.
In the long run, this is a great move for the Reds, but it is extremely painful for me to watch. I truly wish things could have been different.
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
Not liking any A.L. team getting restocked.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
unless i'm missing something, i have no idea what griff. adds to the white sox. isn't he just an older, slower, overpaid version of nick swisher at this point? i guess this means the sox have no confidence in konerko getting things turned around.
ericttspikes
Footballguy
They also manufactured runs. I don't see much of that this year. If they hit homers they have a good shot of winning, if not, forget about it.
fasteddie_21
2006 NM Poker Champ
Wow...it's 7am and I just woke up to see this on ESPN News.
Last thing I expected to see, but tbh, I really hope it happens. Both for the Reds and for him. I'll be pulling for the White Sox if it does go thru...As a lifelong Reds fan, I wish he could have been healthy, but it is what it is, not his fault. That said, he was my favorite player growing up in the Pac NW, and I loved having him as a Red, but the Reds will be better served if/when he's gone. Pains me to say, but it is the truth.
Pretty damn cool that he hit a truly majestic, classic "Jr." HR yesterday in his last game as a Red too...
Do we have any realistic clue as to the return, if anything?
Last thing I expected to see, but tbh, I really hope it happens. Both for the Reds and for him. I'll be pulling for the White Sox if it does go thru...As a lifelong Reds fan, I wish he could have been healthy, but it is what it is, not his fault. That said, he was my favorite player growing up in the Pac NW, and I loved having him as a Red, but the Reds will be better served if/when he's gone. Pains me to say, but it is the truth.
Pretty damn cool that he hit a truly majestic, classic "Jr." HR yesterday in his last game as a Red too...
Do we have any realistic clue as to the return, if anything?
ThaPenguin
Footballguy
Just heard through the grapevine that Grif is on a plane to Chi-town. Let's hope he doesn't land in O'Hare, or else he will be turning right back around.
derek245583
Footballguy
What did they get for him?
ThaPenguin
Footballguy
No word yet. But he is definitely in Chi-town, probably checking out the digs.
ThaPenguin
Footballguy
More word, on a different note, that Dunn might be headed to Tampa. Stay tuned.
fasteddie_21
2006 NM Poker Champ
Rumor has it the deal includes CF Brian Anderson and reliever Nick Massett. It also may include Affedlt/Weathers going to Chitown too.
And yes, Dunn ---> TB makes a lot of sense for both teams. But the Reds are going to be hard pressed to replace his 40+HR's, 100+ RBI, and .385 OBP. It would truly all depend on the return. B.J. Upton and John Jaso?
And yes, Dunn ---> TB makes a lot of sense for both teams. But the Reds are going to be hard pressed to replace his 40+HR's, 100+ RBI, and .385 OBP. It would truly all depend on the return. B.J. Upton and John Jaso?
derek245583
Footballguy
Penguin :knowsstuff:He works for the reds...Problem with Dunn to the Rays is that they need a right handed bat, not a lefty...
derek245583
Footballguy
Is that a good deal? That sounds terrible if you ask me....I guess the salary dump would be nice, but those guys are terrible.
whoknew
Footballguy
You think the Rays are going to trade BJ Upton?? And you think Upton and Jaso for Dunn is a fair trade?!?
fasteddie_21
2006 NM Poker Champ
IMO, Adam Dunn is the most highly under-appreciated player in MLB. Everyone laments his SO's etc. But a .385 OBP is SICK and when you couple that with his power and RBI's, he's a prize. Granted his defense is below average, but to discount the offense this guy brings is really baffling. As to whether it's fair or not...the Reds do NOT have to move Dunn. They'd be perfectly happy, having unloaded Jr., moving Jay Bruce to his natural position in RF, finding a CF/leadoff hitter (they do have Chris Dickerson in the minors...while he's not the long-term answer, the Reds have all off season to fill that hole) and re-sight Dunn @ 4/65M and have him locked up in LF. So is it fair? Prob not, but if the Reds aren't bowled over, they simply shouldn't move Dunn.The guy I want most, in a totally unrelated trade is Teagarden from Texas. Offer them Homer Bailey and I'd be thrilled. The Reds are a blackhole @ Catcher.
derek245583
Footballguy
Is this in the works or totally dreamt up?fasteddie_21 said:
fasteddie_21
2006 NM Poker Champ
Rumor is that Texas is trying to unload Baird and that the Fish and Cincy are both possibly interested, but imo, Laird isn't worth Bailey. Teagarden might be a bit of a reach, but Salty isn't. The Rangers have 4 catchers (with Ramierz (sp?) being the prized one)...it's just rumor at this point but...
fasteddie_21
2006 NM Poker Champ
Then so-be-it. The Reds don't need to trade him. Plain and simple. So the Reds do have a good bit of leverage here...they don't need to dump his contract, therefore, set the bar high or simply re-sign him.
fasteddie_21
2006 NM Poker Champ
Ken Rosenthal is also reporting that Junior has accepted.
Rumor now, and it's gaining momentum is that it's for 2B Danny Richar & RP Nick Masset.
Rumor now, and it's gaining momentum is that it's for 2B Danny Richar & RP Nick Masset.
derek245583
Footballguy
Penguin is reporting it as well....that is better than Brian Anderson, but still not the greatest.
Limp Ditka
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fasteddie_21
2006 NM Poker Champ
TBH, I expected a bag of balls back for Jr. Anything is a "+"...beats Brian Anderson...we have him already and his name is Corey Patterson
:If the Sox are on the hook for his buyout next season, this is a win for the Reds, imo.
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blackjack23
Footballguy
Can Richar play SS?
fasteddie_21
2006 NM Poker Champ
Looking at his minor league numbers, it looks like he played some SS, but mostly 2B. Affedlt/Weathers might be going w/ Jr. as well...stay tuned.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
I'm sure the Sox are on the hook for most, if not all of that.
fasteddie_21
2006 NM Poker Champ
Per ESPN, Sox/Reds splitting this year and the buyout next year.now that it's official, I'm still kinda sad today...boyhood idol gone....it's best for all concerned, but still a sad day.I'm sure the Sox are on the hook for most, if not all of that.TBH, I expected a bag of balls back for Jr. Anything is a "+"...beats Brian Anderson...we have him already and his name is Corey Patterson:If the Sox are on the hook for his buyout next season, this is a win for the Reds, imo.
H Jass
Footballguy
Glad to hear they aren't throwing in Weathers or Affeldt. Maybe they can get another player/prospect for one of those guys before 4pm.Per ESPN, Sox/Reds splitting this year and the buyout next year.now that it's official, I'm still kinda sad today...boyhood idol gone....it's best for all concerned, but still a sad day.I'm sure the Sox are on the hook for most, if not all of that.TBH, I expected a bag of balls back for Jr. Anything is a "+"...beats Brian Anderson...we have him already and his name is Corey Patterson
fasteddie_21
2006 NM Poker Champ
I'm all for unloading Weathers, but I think that Affedlt could really be a solid RP for the Reds next year:CocoBurtonBrayMajAffeldtRoenickeThat's the making of a pretty solid RP crew....Glad to hear they aren't throwing in Weathers or Affeldt. Maybe they can get another player/prospect for one of those guys before 4pm.Per ESPN, Sox/Reds splitting this year and the buyout next year.now that it's official, I'm still kinda sad today...boyhood idol gone....it's best for all concerned, but still a sad day.I'm sure the Sox are on the hook for most, if not all of that.TBH, I expected a bag of balls back for Jr. Anything is a "+"...beats Brian Anderson...we have him already and his name is Corey Patterson:If the Sox are on the hook for his buyout next season, this is a win for the Reds, imo.
maxwelledison
Footballguy
I like the deal. I don't expect much from Jr. but he could bring a little something to the clubhouse. And Konerko looks like he is done so he is decent insurance.
As much as some of his moves have backfired I respect that Kenny Williams always tries to make this team better. The legit pitchers (Harden, Sabathia) are long gone and we gave up nothing here. It would be dumb to move a Floyd or Danks to make a run with this team (we're not that good) but to make a minor move that could pay off, why not? If we somehow hang on and win this thing Guillen should be manager of the year.
As much as some of his moves have backfired I respect that Kenny Williams always tries to make this team better. The legit pitchers (Harden, Sabathia) are long gone and we gave up nothing here. It would be dumb to move a Floyd or Danks to make a run with this team (we're not that good) but to make a minor move that could pay off, why not? If we somehow hang on and win this thing Guillen should be manager of the year.
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