Referee error gives Mendenhall 100-yard game (1 Viewer)

[TommyGilmore]

This will be a bitter pill to swallow for anyone who lost to the Mendenhall owner thanks to the extra yard...

PITTSBURGH -- Coach Mike Tomlin concedes the Steelers were mistakenly awarded a first down on a 9-yard run by Rashard Mendenhall during their 22-17 loss to the Jets Sunday.

On first-and-10 from the Jets 35 early in the second quarter, Mendenhall gained nine yards to the 26-yard line. After momentary confusion as the chain crew began moving the sticks, referee Peter Morelli's crew put the ball down at the 25 and signaled a first down.

The statistics crew hastily awarded Mendenhall a 10-yard carry -- an extra yard that wound up giving him a 100-yard game. The Steelers went on to score a touchdown on Ben Roethlisberger's nine-yard pass to Matt Spaeth.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5943473

 

[Captain Hook]

The Zebras giveth and the Zebras taketh away

 

[LTF]

As a Steelers fan, I didn't want that first down. Would've much rather had 2nd and 1 in that spot than 1st and 10.

That was an awful crew though. At three different times they dropped flags on the field only to pick them up. And there were a couple of blatant holds/PIs that were clear as day, and they were never called. Especially on the last drive on that pass into the endzone to Sanders where Cromartie had a hand full of jersey. But hey, that's how it goes.

 

[Bri]

wait for stat adjustments if the NFL is aware of it, as the article states. Maybe it'll be in.

I loved that one run from near the end zone. He was a beast and it was great running. I'd give him an extra yard just for his effort on that one if somehow I could.

 

[John Bender]

wait for stat adjustments if the NFL is aware of it, as the article states. Maybe it'll be in.I loved that one run from near the end zone. He was a beast and it was great running. I'd give him an extra yard just for his effort on that one if somehow I could.

They won't adjust it - the refs gave him the yard mistakenly, it's not a data collection error. It's not going to be changed unfortunately from what I understand.

 

[NYRAGE]

As a Steelers fan, I didn't want that first down. Would've much rather had 2nd and 1 in that spot than 1st and 10. That was an awful crew though. At three different times they dropped flags on the field only to pick them up. And there were a couple of blatant holds/PIs that were clear as day, and they were never called. Especially on the last drive on that pass into the endzone to Sanders where Cromartie had a hand full of jersey. But hey, that's how it goes.

That ref crew was pretty bad. Even the announcers were making a stink out of that play and they usually are most clueless ones around.The refs did miss that PI call, but to be fair, the Steelers had several holds not called on rushing plays, especially in the first half. The dropping of the flags and no penalties was ridiculous. Only 3 penalties for each team in this game. I guess the refs were letting them play.

 

[lazyike]

A couple of my leagues awards a 5 point bonus at 100 yards but fortunately the mistake wouldn't have changed which fantasy owners won the game, but I would guess it could have in many leagues.

 

[DR MD]

I won my game by one point. A stat change would put him at 99 yds which would decrease his point total by one point and my game would end up tied. I lose the tie breaker. So it very much affected my game.

I'll be nervously waiting for a change or not over the next day or so.

 

[AB in DC]

Just like last week, when Anthony Armstrong got credited with a ten-yard catch at the end of the game even though it only gained nine yards. (The chain gang put the first down marker at the 3 yard line, even though the first down play began at the 12 yard line)

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

As a Steelers fan, I didn't want that first down. Would've much rather had 2nd and 1 in that spot than 1st and 10.

Explain this to me.

 

[Summer Wheat]

The zebras made a bad call on Zach Millers TD that was called back as well. That was a 9 pointer called back. I know because I was playing against Miller in one league and won by 5.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

As a Steelers fan, I didn't want that first down. Would've much rather had 2nd and 1 in that spot than 1st and 10.

Explain this to me.

bump

 

[Hang 10]

Just like last week, when Anthony Armstrong got credited with a ten-yard catch at the end of the game even though it only gained nine yards. (The chain gang put the first down marker at the 3 yard line, even though the first down play began at the 12 yard line)

I heard yesterday that it was actually the same ref in both games!

 

[GroveDiesel]

Yeah, that was absolutely ridiculous. Whoever the chain gang guys are should immediately be fired and the refs should get NO playoff games. How does that happen in the NFL?

Of course, if everyone were using decimal scoring, then the odds of this affecting any game would be extremely small. IMO, there's really no excuse not to use decimal scoring.

 

[Hang 10]

Yeah, that was absolutely ridiculous. Whoever the chain gang guys are should immediately be fired and the refs should get NO playoff games. How does that happen in the NFL? Of course, if everyone were using decimal scoring, then the odds of this affecting any game would be extremely small. IMO, there's really no excuse not to use decimal scoring.

A TON of leagues have bonus's for 100 yards. We use decimal scoring but you get an extra 2 points with the bonus in our league.

 

[glong989]

As a Steelers fan, I didn't want that first down. Would've much rather had 2nd and 1 in that spot than 1st and 10.

Explain this to me.

bump

He's one of those guys who thinks this is Madden 2011 and gaining one yard is a given. Therefore, he thinks that you just take a shot on 2nd and 1 and casually gain the needed yard on 3rd and 1 for the first down. That is if you didn't get a TD or at least a nice chunk of yardage on 2nd down...

 

[Peter_Griffin]

How this ####### is still a referee is beyond me. He was the guy who ruled that Troy's interception against the Colts back in 2006 was not an interception. I'm actually surprised he made it out of Pittsburgh on Sunday. Or did he? Anyone know which game he will be ruining this weekend?

 

[RUSF18]

Guy in my league wants to add bonuses for next season "to increase scoring opportunities." We already use decimal scoring, and just posted this to the message board as a perfect example of how ridiculous awarding bonuses can be.

 

[TommyGilmore]

Just like last week, when Anthony Armstrong got credited with a ten-yard catch at the end of the game even though it only gained nine yards. (The chain gang put the first down marker at the 3 yard line, even though the first down play began at the 12 yard line)

Are you sure that Armstrong only got 9 yards? I thought he really did get 10 yards, but the chain gang forgot to change the down marker to "1", causing the TV crew to think that it was 2nd-and-1 when it was really 1st-and-Goal.

 

[LTF]

As a Steelers fan, I didn't want that first down. Would've much rather had 2nd and 1 in that spot than 1st and 10.

Explain this to me.

bump

The Steelers were driving, and were down to the Jets 25. They were actually blowing the Jets off the ball all night, and Pouncey was getting out to David Harris and dominating. The right side of the line with Pouncey, Foster, and Flozell Adams were playing at a high level in terms of physicality. I would have much rather had a 2nd and 1 simply for what it allows you do from a play call standpoint. Especially given how the Steelers have struggled down near opponents goal lines in those situations. On 2nd and 1, there's a lot of different things you can do to make defenses pay in a big way than you can on a standard 1st and 10. The way the Steelers were running the ball that day and coming off the line, the 1 yard needed on 2nd and 1 wasn't a worry at all. I'd much rather had a 2nd and 1 with the option of a play action to the end zone, or a variety of other plays in that same vein, than a standard 1st and 10.

 

[Bri]

How this ####### is still a referee is beyond me. He was the guy who ruled that Troy's interception against the Colts back in 2006 was not an interception. I'm actually surprised he made it out of Pittsburgh on Sunday. Or did he? Anyone know which game he will be ruining this weekend?

Fascinating you remember that and that you think he should be canned for a mistake every four years.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Just like last week, when Anthony Armstrong got credited with a ten-yard catch at the end of the game even though it only gained nine yards. (The chain gang put the first down marker at the 3 yard line, even though the first down play began at the 12 yard line)

This is wrong. The play was 1st down. the official chains (to the near side in the video were about 1/2 a yard off the ones shown on the opposite side of the field. saw an NFL ref official on NFLN explain that this was the right call after the fact.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Just like last week, when Anthony Armstrong got credited with a ten-yard catch at the end of the game even though it only gained nine yards. (The chain gang put the first down marker at the 3 yard line, even though the first down play began at the 12 yard line)

Are you sure that Armstrong only got 9 yards? I thought he really did get 10 yards, but the chain gang forgot to change the down marker to "1", causing the TV crew to think that it was 2nd-and-1 when it was really 1st-and-Goal.

He did get 10 but the 'unofficial chains' shown in the tv angle were a bit off making it appear that he did not on TV (which started all the announcer confusion) The 'yellow line (also unofficial) used by tv based it's yellow line on these unofficial chains (thus in the wrong spot by about 1/2-3/4's of a yard.

 

[Hang 10]

Just like last week, when Anthony Armstrong got credited with a ten-yard catch at the end of the game even though it only gained nine yards. (The chain gang put the first down marker at the 3 yard line, even though the first down play began at the 12 yard line)

Are you sure that Armstrong only got 9 yards? I thought he really did get 10 yards, but the chain gang forgot to change the down marker to "1", causing the TV crew to think that it was 2nd-and-1 when it was really 1st-and-Goal.

He did get 10 but the 'unofficial chains' shown in the tv angle were a bit off making it appear that he did not on TV (which started all the announcer confusion) The 'yellow line (also unofficial) used by tv based it's yellow line on these unofficial chains (thus in the wrong spot by about 1/2-3/4's of a yard.

http://czabe.blogspot.com/2010/12/yellow-l...undefeated.htmlHere's a pretty good rundown of the play. It looks like to me that he only got 9 yards.

SCREEN SHOT OF THE PLAY

 

[mad sweeney]

How this ####### is still a referee is beyond me. He was the guy who ruled that Troy's interception against the Colts back in 2006 was not an interception. I'm actually surprised he made it out of Pittsburgh on Sunday. Or did he? Anyone know which game he will be ruining this weekend?

Fascinating you remember that and that you think he should be canned for a mistake every four years.

If it was Bill Levy he'd be fine with it.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Just like last week, when Anthony Armstrong got credited with a ten-yard catch at the end of the game even though it only gained nine yards. (The chain gang put the first down marker at the 3 yard line, even though the first down play began at the 12 yard line)

Are you sure that Armstrong only got 9 yards? I thought he really did get 10 yards, but the chain gang forgot to change the down marker to "1", causing the TV crew to think that it was 2nd-and-1 when it was really 1st-and-Goal.

He did get 10 but the 'unofficial chains' shown in the tv angle were a bit off making it appear that he did not on TV (which started all the announcer confusion) The 'yellow line (also unofficial) used by tv based it's yellow line on these unofficial chains (thus in the wrong spot by about 1/2-3/4's of a yard.

http://czabe.blogspot.com/2010/12/yellow-l...undefeated.htmlHere's a pretty good rundown of the play. It looks like to me that he only got 9 yards.

SCREEN SHOT OF THE PLAY

even there you can see that the yellow line is a good bit past the far chain/yardage marker (which is unofficial) the near sideline chains (not pictured above) are the official ones..

 

[ROBOPUNTER]

As a Steelers fan, I didn't want that first down. Would've much rather had 2nd and 1 in that spot than 1st and 10.

Explain this to me.

bump

The Steelers were driving, and were down to the Jets 25. They were actually blowing the Jets off the ball all night, and Pouncey was getting out to David Harris and dominating. The right side of the line with Pouncey, Foster, and Flozell Adams were playing at a high level in terms of physicality. I would have much rather had a 2nd and 1 simply for what it allows you do from a play call standpoint. Especially given how the Steelers have struggled down near opponents goal lines in those situations. On 2nd and 1, there's a lot of different things you can do to make defenses pay in a big way than you can on a standard 1st and 10. The way the Steelers were running the ball that day and coming off the line, the 1 yard needed on 2nd and 1 wasn't a worry at all. I'd much rather had a 2nd and 1 with the option of a play action to the end zone, or a variety of other plays in that same vein, than a standard 1st and 10.

FYI, here's a good cheatsheet on down to gos:1st and 1 > 1st and 10 > 2nd and 1

 

[Hang 10]

Just like last week, when Anthony Armstrong got credited with a ten-yard catch at the end of the game even though it only gained nine yards. (The chain gang put the first down marker at the 3 yard line, even though the first down play began at the 12 yard line)

Are you sure that Armstrong only got 9 yards? I thought he really did get 10 yards, but the chain gang forgot to change the down marker to "1", causing the TV crew to think that it was 2nd-and-1 when it was really 1st-and-Goal.

He did get 10 but the 'unofficial chains' shown in the tv angle were a bit off making it appear that he did not on TV (which started all the announcer confusion) The 'yellow line (also unofficial) used by tv based it's yellow line on these unofficial chains (thus in the wrong spot by about 1/2-3/4's of a yard.

http://czabe.blogspot.com/2010/12/yellow-l...undefeated.htmlHere's a pretty good rundown of the play. It looks like to me that he only got 9 yards.

SCREEN SHOT OF THE PLAY

even there you can see that the yellow line is a good bit past the far chain/yardage marker (which is unofficial) the near sideline chains (not pictured above) are the official ones..

Yeah but the point being, the ball needed to get to the 2 yard line for a first down. It never got there. They gave the Skins first in goal from the 3.

 

[Mr. Retukes]

Yeah but the point being, the ball needed to get to the 2 yard line for a first down. It never got there. They gave the Skins first in goal from the 3.

Looks to me like the play starts at the 12 1/4 line, and Armstrong gets exactly 10 yards.video

 

[atl3695]

I won my game by one point. A stat change would put him at 99 yds which would decrease his point total by one point and my game would end up tied. I lose the tie breaker. So it very much affected my game.

I'll be nervously waiting for a change or not over the next day or so.

Mendenhall changed to 99 yards.

Stat Correction

 

[GroveDiesel]

I won my game by one point. A stat change would put him at 99 yds which would decrease his point total by one point and my game would end up tied. I lose the tie breaker. So it very much affected my game.

I'll be nervously waiting for a change or not over the next day or so.

Mendenhall changed to 99 yards.

Stat Correction

Oh man, I bet there are going to be some super angry people out there who go in tonight to checkout live scoring and find out they're not in the finals. And some super angry people that thought they weren't and didn't set a lineup. And super angry people whose leagues won't apply the stat correction and get screwed because of it.

 

[TommyGilmore]

Oh man, I bet there are going to be some super angry people out there who go in tonight to checkout live scoring and find out they're not in the finals. And some super angry people that thought they weren't and didn't set a lineup. And super angry people whose leagues won't apply the stat correction and get screwed because of it.

MFL hasn't even posted the correction yet. Usually all the corrections are posted by Thursday evening.

 

[Novice2]

Oh man, I bet there are going to be some super angry people out there who go in tonight to checkout live scoring and find out they're not in the finals. And some super angry people that thought they weren't and didn't set a lineup. And super angry people whose leagues won't apply the stat correction and get screwed because of it.

MFL hasn't even posted the correction yet. Usually all the corrections are posted by Thursday evening.

MFL sucksSigned Owner who lost to mendys magical extra yard.

New Orleans Saints at Baltimore Ravens Marques Colston: from 80 to 81 Yards. Jeremy Shockey: from 26 to 25 Yards. Buffalo Bills at Miami Dolphins Kyle Williams: from 0 to 1 Assists. Kyle Williams: from 0 Sacks to 0.5 Sacks for 2 Yards. Arthur Moats: from 1 to 0 Assists. Arthur Moats: from 1.5 Sacks for 10 Yards to 1 Sack for 8 Yards.

 

[DR MD]

I won my game by one point. A stat change would put him at 99 yds which would decrease his point total by one point and my game would end up tied. I lose the tie breaker. So it very much affected my game.

I'll be nervously waiting for a change or not over the next day or so.

Mendenhall changed to 99 yards.

Stat Correction

I will accept whatever my league decides. My opponent who would be playing does not have anybody going tonight. It sucks. My biggest gripe is the what if? That is, what would have happened if the refs made the right call. 2nd and 1 could have been another run and Mendy gets his yard. Or it could have been an incomplete pass and Mendy gets his yard on third down. Or Ben could have hit Wallace on a TD on that second down. Fact is, we'll never know.

What would be my vote if I were not an interested team? I always accept whatever the league management site does. MFL did not make the change but the change was announced this evening. If MFL makes the change, then I live with it. If they don't but the league decides otherwise, I'll live with it. It all just stinks.

 

[davidwb]

from ESPN.com

GAME NOTICE:

Due to a late scoring change from the NFL, Rashard Mendenhall's Week 15 rushing yardage has been decreased from 100 to 99 yards. Your playoff matchups may or may not be affected by this change; please check your league's scoreboard for updated matchups.

 

[FootballGuy22]

My site changed the result at 12:24 am 12/24/2010. Luckily it didn't impact last week's game even though it changed the final score.

 

[biggamer3]

wow, thank god i was down a few points before this change, would have sucked to be booted from Championship game over this crap

 

[OU#1]

Mendy still has 100 yards in my CBS league.