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Reggie Bush may be out for the year (1 Viewer)
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PranksterJD
Footballguy
weasel3515
Footballguy
Thanks! After watching Campbell get injured last night for my team I was due some luck as my opponent has Bush!
smcindoe
Footballguy
Does it? He'd be losing one of the best RB receiving options in the league.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Before anyone wonders, Pierre Thomas is not the likely play here.
Go with Stecker - he's played more and Pierre Thomas has a bruised kidney that had him inactive last week.
Go with Stecker - he's played more and Pierre Thomas has a bruised kidney that had him inactive last week.
Tanner9919
Footballguy
wow, really? so much for the Gale Sayers comparisons, this guy is David Meggett with a little more juice..
MCguidance
Footballguy
Reggie Bush-RB-Saints Dec. 7 - 4:02 pm et
The Associated Press reports that Reggie Bush's injury isn't expected to require surgery.
The Saints are publicly hopeful Bush will play Monday, although that could be gamesmanship. The Bush/Aaron Stecker combo isn't worth waiting for Monday night if you have decent options this week. We would hold on to Bush in all leagues until the story clears up.
The Associated Press reports that Reggie Bush's injury isn't expected to require surgery.
The Saints are publicly hopeful Bush will play Monday, although that could be gamesmanship. The Bush/Aaron Stecker combo isn't worth waiting for Monday night if you have decent options this week. We would hold on to Bush in all leagues until the story clears up.
Anybody think that Stecker could actually put up better fantasy numbers than Bush since he will probably get more carries per game for a higher ypc and might get all of Bush's receptions as well?
I actually doubt that Stecker will get all of Bush's receptions since the offense will probably adjust away from Bush's strengths and weaknesses and run plays that fit Steckers strengths and weaknesses instead.
I've read that Stecker is an decent runner and a good receiver but I just assume that he's not as good a receiver as Bush.
Stecker will probably be more effective in short yardage situations as well so even though it sounds crazy I'm thinking that Stecker is probably an upgrade from Bush's fantasy numbers.
I actually doubt that Stecker will get all of Bush's receptions since the offense will probably adjust away from Bush's strengths and weaknesses and run plays that fit Steckers strengths and weaknesses instead.
I've read that Stecker is an decent runner and a good receiver but I just assume that he's not as good a receiver as Bush.
Stecker will probably be more effective in short yardage situations as well so even though it sounds crazy I'm thinking that Stecker is probably an upgrade from Bush's fantasy numbers.
bonesman
Footballguy
I'm on record as saying (and adamantly defending the opinion) that Bush is likely to be marked as "Injury Prone" (as overused and erroneous as the term is) by the end of the season (before Deuce went down even).... so unfortunately, I agree w/ you wholeheartedly.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
It is only a torn PCL?? He should be fine!
hawaiiankrush
Footballguy
Brees will be going deep more often than he has in the past...Reggie just gets swing passes which will not be there a whole lot anymore. Believe DAT
hawaiiankrush
Footballguy
He's not better physically pertaining to this injury than he was 3 weeks ago - and his results have been piss poor. So I disagree that he will be fine as a producer.
3nOut
Footballguy
Gale Sayers had a knee injury too.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
There is another thread specifically for you to get your jollies bashing Reggie Bush's skills as a running back. This thread is about the injury, no need to pollute it. Thanks.
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Breesisdaman
Footballguy
Bush has been playing hurt for a while. He needs to hang it up for the season if he is hurt bad. I'd rather have him next season when Deuce gets back and he can return to his true roll of x-factor. Let Thomas and Stecker go the rest of the way. Even if the Saints win the rest of their games and make the playoffs they will not make it far with the injurys on offense and that secondary.
Breesisdaman
Footballguy
No and especially if they lose one more game and eliminate themselves from the playoffs. Plus the Saints offensive line is good at one thing- Pass protection. They suck at run blocking. McCallister and Bush's numbers suffered this year because there were no holes. Dont ask me why because these guys did well blocking last year.
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Running game slight upgrade ... RB receiving slight downgrade (Stecker is a good receiver out of the backfield) ... overall break even.Stecker should put up about the same points as Bush only without the hype.
He'd be losing 34.8 yds per game and about .16 tds per game ... Stecker averages 10.6 in limited playing time. This will not hurt the Saints running or passing game at all.
meanjoegreen
Footballguy
McCallister didn't play long enough this year to compare his numbers to last year.
kevthegrad
Footballguy
you have records
kevthegrad
Footballguy
It pains me to think of how often I've heard that since I drafted him 1.01 in my dynasty league last year.
Steel Town
Footballguy
Is this the same injury that Travis Henry just had? It sidelined him for, what, two weeks?
Hamburglar
Footballguy
So my league settings lock rosters at the start of the first game of the week. As of game time on Thursday, Bush was a go. Now he is very doubtful, and there is nothing I can do about it. He is in my RB2 position, and he probably won't play.
I posted a league message a few weeks ago about this being a stupid rule, and now I'm getting burned by it.
What is the general consensus regarding entire rosters locking at the start of the first game? Personally I think it sucks. and I would think it sucks even if I were not a Bush owner.
And yes, I know...
I posted a league message a few weeks ago about this being a stupid rule, and now I'm getting burned by it.
What is the general consensus regarding entire rosters locking at the start of the first game? Personally I think it sucks. and I would think it sucks even if I were not a Bush owner.
And yes, I know...
Steel Town
Footballguy
With the emergence of the Thursday games, you have to change this rule.
Agreed.
omally
Footballguy
I think your league should definitely have that rule changed.So my league settings lock rosters at the start of the first game of the week. As of game time on Thursday, Bush was a go. Now he is very doubtful, and there is nothing I can do about it. He is in my RB2 position, and he probably won't play.I posted a league message a few weeks ago about this being a stupid rule, and now I'm getting burned by it.What is the general consensus regarding entire rosters locking at the start of the first game? Personally I think it sucks. and I would think it sucks even if I were not a Bush owner.And yes, I know...
sho nuff
Footballguy
With these as my starters...
Portis
K. Jones
K. Smith (flex)
would you drop any of these guys for Stecker?
K. Watson (leaning that way but guy I might play in round 2 has Rudi...im only holding KW to keep him from that guy in case he wins and I play him next week)
Norwood (I know, I know)
Fred Jackson
Droughns.
Portis
K. Jones
K. Smith (flex)
would you drop any of these guys for Stecker?
K. Watson (leaning that way but guy I might play in round 2 has Rudi...im only holding KW to keep him from that guy in case he wins and I play him next week)
Norwood (I know, I know)
Fred Jackson
Droughns.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
They weren't much better run blocking last year either, they were just able to mask it better with their gimmicky offense keeping defenses off balance, and teams' (unnecessary) fear of Bush leaving other lanes open.I said all offseason that this group is one of the worst run-blocking lines in the league, and that if their offense wasn't fooling people any more they were going to be exposed for it, which they have been.bushisdaman said:
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
Great analogy. However, he better be as durable as Metcalf. The Browns mishandled his talent for years. Bush would not last more than a few years getting sent between the tackles that many times.Warhogs said:
j ViLLA x PE
Footballguy
Reggie only seems like a bad back cuz the run scheme, run blocking scheme sux in new orleans. Look at Justin Fargas. No one ever talked about him cuz he wasn't that good. This year the Raiders brought in the zone blocking scheme and fargas is having a breakout season and didn't even start the first half of the year. Bush needs to be on another team.
H.K.
Footballguy
Bush out Monday, will get 2nd opinion
Jay Glazer
FOXSports.com, Updated 13 hours ago
Reggie Bush is out for Monday night's NFC South clash with the Atlanta Falcons with a partially torn posterior cruciate ligament, FOXSports.com has learned. While Bush's season may be in jeopardy, reports that Bush's season is over are premature.
"We have no way of possible knowing how long he's going to miss until after he meets with Dr. (James) Andrews on Monday," Saints coach Sean Payton said. "It's a PCL. Some guys miss two weeks. Some guys miss longer. But there's no way for us to know right now because we don't know what the follow-up opinion is."
Bush will fly to Birmingham to see Andrews on Monday, and the team will wait until then to make a determination. Andrews is one of the most well-regarded orthopaedic surgeons in the country.
Often times, players and teams will elect not to operate on the PCL, even when completely torn.
Bush practiced Thursday and did not indicate he was having any trouble when he spoke to reporters after practice. He became sore that evening and the team ordered an MRI, which indicated a tear in his posterior cruciate ligament, an injury which varies in severity.
The injury is the latest setback for Bush, who took over as the Saints' featured running back after Deuce McAllister's season-ending knee injury in Week 3.
Bush has scored six touchdowns with 581 yards rushing and 417 yards receiving. His longest run so far has been 22 yards and his longest reception 25 yards. He has 10 dropped passes and has fumbled eight times, though his team has recovered all but three of those.
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Jay Glazer
FOXSports.com, Updated 13 hours ago
Reggie Bush is out for Monday night's NFC South clash with the Atlanta Falcons with a partially torn posterior cruciate ligament, FOXSports.com has learned. While Bush's season may be in jeopardy, reports that Bush's season is over are premature.
"We have no way of possible knowing how long he's going to miss until after he meets with Dr. (James) Andrews on Monday," Saints coach Sean Payton said. "It's a PCL. Some guys miss two weeks. Some guys miss longer. But there's no way for us to know right now because we don't know what the follow-up opinion is."
Bush will fly to Birmingham to see Andrews on Monday, and the team will wait until then to make a determination. Andrews is one of the most well-regarded orthopaedic surgeons in the country.
Often times, players and teams will elect not to operate on the PCL, even when completely torn.
Bush practiced Thursday and did not indicate he was having any trouble when he spoke to reporters after practice. He became sore that evening and the team ordered an MRI, which indicated a tear in his posterior cruciate ligament, an injury which varies in severity.
The injury is the latest setback for Bush, who took over as the Saints' featured running back after Deuce McAllister's season-ending knee injury in Week 3.
Bush has scored six touchdowns with 581 yards rushing and 417 yards receiving. His longest run so far has been 22 yards and his longest reception 25 yards. He has 10 dropped passes and has fumbled eight times, though his team has recovered all but three of those.
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LionsFan78
Footballguy
Anybody else just catch the NFL Network NOW update?
Just heard word for word "Adam Schefter is reporting that Bush will miss the rest of the year". I know it's been speculated, but has this been confirmed?
Just heard word for word "Adam Schefter is reporting that Bush will miss the rest of the year". I know it's been speculated, but has this been confirmed?
Steel Town
Footballguy
I caught that as well. But, I haven't seen in print yet....could be a matter of time. But as a Bush owner, you have to hold onto hope until you have a confirmation. I was able to grab Stecker and have the advantage of a first round bye. Worst case scenario for me would be Bush being out for multiple weeks, and have the Saints backfield turn into a 2-3 headed monster. I would prefer not to cut someone with value for Pierre Thomas, but am starting to give it some thought. Keep hope alive.
myhousekey
Footballguy
Per a headline on wwltv.com (I'm guessing it came from today's press conference)...
GoBirds
Footballguy
Saw that too, is it worth picking him back up or are we looking at limited carries at best?
ckalltheway
Footballguy
I've got Bush and Stecker and really hope that Reggie just sits out another week unless he's near 100 percent. Steckie's been a big help moving the chains as the Saints have seen that slow and steady wins the race.
Frenchy Fuqua
Footballguy
Stecker has given the Saints their two best rushing performances of the year, what's the rush to bring Bush back unless he is 100%.
Sidewinder
Footballguy
I base my comment on (a) the original thinking that Bush might be able to play in week 17 and (b) seeing how Payton has handled things over the past 2 years, specifically how he divulges injury/player status information: this is nothing more than the Saints giving the Eagles something else to have to gameplan for. And the potential of Bush playing does do that.
saintfool
Dead sexy
exactly. it wouldn't surprise me in the least if they reverted to a similar gameplan that was in plce for deuce and reggie. stecker has shown his effectivess and utility. reggie can return to his more nebulous niche role that proved effective last season.
