Limp Ditka
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Tigers acquired shortstop Edgar Renteria from the Braves for RHP Jair Jurrjens and outfielder Gorkys Hernandez.
Oct. 29 - 4:20 pm et
Oct. 29 - 4:20 pm et
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Renteria Traded To Tigers (1 Viewer)
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Sammy3469
Footballguy
geez...that's been rumored for awhile...I'm sort of surprised it happened so quickly especially with Schoholtz not the GM anymore.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
That's what I'd expect.Only one thing that worries me about this move though:neifi:
Doctor Detroit
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Very happy to get Renteria but it seems like a fairly steep price considering Hernandez was their #2 OF prospect (although still at the high A level) and Jurrjens probably a starter this coming year. Jurrjens was expendable however with the drafting and signing of Rick Porcello. Still have to let this sink in before I really comment any further. First impressions are it's a great short-term, pretty bad intermediate and long-term trade.
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Fantasy-wise: Those of you in dynasty leagues now can be pretty sure both Andrew Miller (Tigers #5 starter) and Jair Jurrjens (likely to be in the Braves rotation) both just saw a bump in value.
Sammy3469
Footballguy
But with Grandy, Magglio, and presumably Maybin, isn't any OF prospect really expendable especially with their penchant for going over slot in the draft?
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
I'd rather have gave up Nate, but Atlanta might not have taken that.
whoknew
Footballguy
They gave up a ####load. But I guess you gotta do it for the chance to win it all.
Balco
Footballguy
Great trade by the Braves. Renteria is a solid, veteran player who had an awesome year. He should do well in Detroit, and I see why the Tigers made the deal. But the Braves get high level prospects, and could put Escobar at SS. The Braves need to sign Texiera to an extension (he is still arbitration eligible, I can't imagine how much he will be awarded).
HellToupee
Footballguy
Who moves Guillen or Renteria?I thought Renteria lost a little bit of his range
whoknew
Footballguy
Tigers already announced that Guillen is moving to 1b. His range just isn't there anymore at all.
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Insoxicated
What are the Odds that Rent chokes in Detroit like he did in Boston?
Serious question.
I realize the Detroit market isn't half the crush that Boston is but he's still moving back into the AL and into the fold of a team that is in line for a title run. he will once again be a high-expectations import and given the price you guys paid he will once again see a good bit of heat if he starts off slowly once again.
Serious question.
I realize the Detroit market isn't half the crush that Boston is but he's still moving back into the AL and into the fold of a team that is in line for a title run. he will once again be a high-expectations import and given the price you guys paid he will once again see a good bit of heat if he starts off slowly once again.
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
Dallas Trahern might have also been a possibility. I'd have liked that better. Opinions on him seem to be more varied than on Jurrjens who was coveted by just about everyone.
Doctor Detroit
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Probably not very good. He will have a much better support system in Detroit than he did in Boston and he won't be asked to do much more than to show up to work and play his best game. KNowing Leyland and DOmbrowski helps a lot and Renteria seems geniunely excited to come to Detroit. As far as daily pressure Polanco, Guillen, Pudge, and Mags are not only Hispanic but they are the team leaders and all except Polanco will have a lot more pressure to face than Renteria will. If Renteria starts slow he'll be prodded but it will be nothing like Boston. Only Pudge receives that kind of scrutiny in Detroit and for Renteria that means people will mostly lay off. The only exception would be is if Pudge is playing well and in that case the Tigers would be winning anyway and for the most part everyone but the talk radio idiots leave them alone. Renteria is an upgrade on this team but as far as key clogs he is well down the list. What fans and the media will expect is an everyday player that plays a pretty good SS and gets an occasional big hit or a walk. If he can hit just a little above his career average .300/.360/108 OPS+ and has an average year in the field then he was a good addition with anything more being gravy. I really believe the environment in Detroit will be optimum for Renteria for all those reasons and I think there is enough background on him to believe he’ll be pretty good in Detroit for the next two years.[icon] said:
CF Granderson
2B Polanco
RF Ordonez
DH Sheffield
1B Guillen
LF TBD
SS Renteria
C Pudge
3B Cringe
If the Tigers can find a LH hitting LF with pop this line-up will be the best in baseball.
whoknew
Footballguy
Fans of a team always love their own prospects more than they probably should. Its natural.We love Jurrjens because he pitched well when the Tigers needed it last year. And Gorkys has been raved about for the past 2 years. But in reality, the Tigers needed a SS to compete next year -- now they have it.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
I was at Jiars one hitter and it was beautiful.
The Tigers have alot of young pitching and Im not sure there was a starting rotation spot to be had this year or in the near future, so trading him for a SS is fine by me.
Rotation:
Bondo
Verlander
Kenny - he'll be back
Nate
A.Miller
no room here, especially with the portbello mushroom kid they drafted last year.
The Tigers have alot of young pitching and Im not sure there was a starting rotation spot to be had this year or in the near future, so trading him for a SS is fine by me.
Rotation:
Bondo
Verlander
Kenny - he'll be back
Nate
A.Miller
no room here, especially with the portbello mushroom kid they drafted last year.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
They still need to address the bullpen, they can't come back with the same people they had last year. Best 6 inning team in baseball and one of the worst at holding leads in the late innings.
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whoknew
Footballguy
Assuming they bring back Todd Jones (and I reckon they will), I suspect most of the bullpen improvement will (we hope) come from better (and full) years from Z and Rodney.Basically, these guys are probably set:TJonesRodneyZoomGrilliByrdakMinerSo really there's likely only 1 bullpen spot open, right? Am I missing someone?Also scoring in the last three innings.
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
Not sure why that was a problem this year with all the good situational hitters they have. You love guys like Polanco, Pudge, Maggs, Guillen in late innings. Renteria adds yet another.Also scoring in the last three innings.
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
McBride, maybe.I would like to see them add a more proven lefty though. Sure missed Jamie Walker last year.Assuming they bring back Todd Jones (and I reckon they will), I suspect most of the bullpen improvement will (we hope) come from better (and full) years from Z and Rodney.Basically, these guys are probably set:TJonesRodneyZoomGrilliByrdakMinerSo really there's likely only 1 bullpen spot open, right? Am I missing someone?
Doctor Detroit
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Well I think Seay proved himself to be a better option than Brydak and McBride probably has the best stuff of the three. Jones is still iffy to me also and Bazardo can and will get an opportunity. Hopefully he makes it over Grilli and Miner shifts to middle relief. Whoknew>You also forgot Durbin unless you believe he'll be the #5 starter.Spartans Rule said:McBride, maybe.I would like to see them add a more proven lefty though. Sure missed Jamie Walker last year.whoknew said:Assuming they bring back Todd Jones (and I reckon they will), I suspect most of the bullpen improvement will (we hope) come from better (and full) years from Z and Rodney.Basically, these guys are probably set:TJonesRodneyZoomGrilliByrdakMinerSo really there's likely only 1 bullpen spot open, right? Am I missing someone?Doctor Detroit said:Leroy Hoard said:Also scoring in the last three innings.
whoknew
Footballguy
Look at all those guys I forgot!!It seems like Los Tigres have a lot of arms - they just need to pitch better than they did last year. Maybe add one more good late inning guy. That'd be nice.Well I think Seay proved himself to be a better option than Brydak and McBride probably has the best stuff of the three. Jones is still iffy to me also and Bazardo can and will get an opportunity. Hopefully he makes it over Grilli and Miner shifts to middle relief. Whoknew>You also forgot Durbin unless you believe he'll be the #5 starter.Spartans Rule said:McBride, maybe.I would like to see them add a more proven lefty though. Sure missed Jamie Walker last year.whoknew said:Assuming they bring back Todd Jones (and I reckon they will), I suspect most of the bullpen improvement will (we hope) come from better (and full) years from Z and Rodney.Basically, these guys are probably set:TJonesRodneyZoomGrilliByrdakMinerSo really there's likely only 1 bullpen spot open, right? Am I missing someone?Doctor Detroit said:Leroy Hoard said:Also scoring in the last three innings.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
Don't be surprised if Renteria bats leadoff and Granderson is moved lower in the order.
Doctor Detroit
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Renteria has never really leadoff in his career (57 times) but I have heard this floating around as talk also. I think I'd rather see him 2nd or 7th but Granderson will be dropping in the order at some point in the next couple of years. But I think Renteria will hit 2nd sometimes and 6th or 7th sometimes.
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MichiganPanthers
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Although Granderson strikes out a little too much for a leadoff hitter, I still see him in that spot for most of the year. Renteria would be a good guy at six, to protect Guillen a little better than Pudge did last year. Against tough left-handers, I can see Polanco leading off, Renteria second and dropping Granderson lower in the order. I agree that Granderson will be moved down in the order in the next few years, but I wouldn't think it would be until some of the vets are no longer there and someone like Maybin is able to leadoff. At that point, I think that Granderson would make an ideal 3 hitter.
