Temple is in the Seraphin category of guys that will be playing overseas as soon as the wizards cut them loose. Ideally Porter gets healthy and in shape soon so he can suck up some minutes at the wing at above-replacement level quality.
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Respectablity is Reached?--Washington Wizards 2014-2015 Regular Season (1 Viewer)
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STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
The good news is the East is SO bad that the Wizards shouldn't be to far in the hole when Beal comes back.
IF he comes back.
IF he comes back.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
Agree on Porter. But I think Temple would find another team if the Wizards cut him loose. He's not much of a shooter, but he's pretty solid on defense. As an end of the bench guard, there are worse (Maynor, for one).
Yeah, well if Maynor is the standard... Temple (26 empty mins), Maynor, and Vesely the 6-8 rotation guys tonight...yikes.
That said, great performances from Wall, Nene, and Webster tonight. They have some really nice pieces on this squad.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
Temple had a couple of solid plays on D down the stretch. But, I agree it's not ideal that he's getting 20 minutes, and the bench was pretty ugly tonight.
Great win though.
Great win though.
tom22406
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Hard to say anything bad about how John Wall has been playing the last few games.If he can hit his jumper on a consistent basis he jumps right from very good PG to elite status.3 straight 30+ point games and is also getting the rest of the team involved.
Nene was beasting last night and Webster was also fantastic.Webster needs to be on the floor with Wall as much as possible because he always seems to find that open space to get off his jumper.If he has to create on his own he simply isn't that good but let Wall find him and he is
Bench chipped in with a whopping 7 points :X
Singleton got off the bench for a quick minute so that was a plus but they simply have to get something out of these guys.
Thankfully the Lakers were playing as good of a D that the Wiz were.I would have liked to have seen Gortat more involved but the Lakers went small late and he never saw the floor so I get why he wasn't used as much as he should have been.
Nene was beasting last night and Webster was also fantastic.Webster needs to be on the floor with Wall as much as possible because he always seems to find that open space to get off his jumper.If he has to create on his own he simply isn't that good but let Wall find him and he is
Bench chipped in with a whopping 7 points :X
Singleton got off the bench for a quick minute so that was a plus but they simply have to get something out of these guys.
Thankfully the Lakers were playing as good of a D that the Wiz were.I would have liked to have seen Gortat more involved but the Lakers went small late and he never saw the floor so I get why he wasn't used as much as he should have been.
TobiasFunke
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If they can win either tonight (I'm guessing they'll be a road favorite although If I was a betting man I'd be hammering the Bucks if that's the case) or Saturday night and go 2-2 during the latest stretch of four games in five days I think they'll be in great shape to at least stay afloat until Beal returns. They finally get a little rest in December, which they desperately need. They'll just so ridiculously thin at the 1, 2 and 3 at the moment, and Nene breaks down so easily.Hard to say anything bad about how John Wall has been playing the last few games.If he can hit his jumper on a consistent basis he jumps right from very good PG to elite status.3 straight 30+ point games and is also getting the rest of the team involved.
Nene was beasting last night and Webster was also fantastic.Webster needs to be on the floor with Wall as much as possible because he always seems to find that open space to get off his jumper.If he has to create on his own he simply isn't that good but let Wall find him and he is
Bench chipped in with a whopping 7 points :X
Singleton got off the bench for a quick minute so that was a plus but they simply have to get something out of these guys.
Thankfully the Lakers were playing as good of a D that the Wiz were.I would have liked to have seen Gortat more involved but the Lakers went small late and he never saw the floor so I get why he wasn't used as much as he should have been.
tom22406
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Going to be real tough to not stay in contention in the East the way things are looking so I fully agree.The conference is now flirting with only 2 teams above .500If they can win either tonight (I'm guessing they'll be a road favorite although If I was a betting man I'd be hammering the Bucks if that's the case) or Saturday night and go 2-2 during the latest stretch of four games in five days I think they'll be in great shape to at least stay afloat until Beal returns. They finally get a little rest in December, which they desperately need. They'll just so ridiculously thin at the 1, 2 and 3 at the moment, and Nene breaks down so easily.Hard to say anything bad about how John Wall has been playing the last few games.If he can hit his jumper on a consistent basis he jumps right from very good PG to elite status.3 straight 30+ point games and is also getting the rest of the team involved.
Nene was beasting last night and Webster was also fantastic.Webster needs to be on the floor with Wall as much as possible because he always seems to find that open space to get off his jumper.If he has to create on his own he simply isn't that good but let Wall find him and he is
Bench chipped in with a whopping 7 points :X
Singleton got off the bench for a quick minute so that was a plus but they simply have to get something out of these guys.
Thankfully the Lakers were playing as good of a D that the Wiz were.I would have liked to have seen Gortat more involved but the Lakers went small late and he never saw the floor so I get why he wasn't used as much as he should have been.
I have to admit this team has sucked me back in once again.I'm a huge Webster fan and Wall is winning me over with how fun he is to watch run the floor so I'm in it(once again)for the long haul.Ahhh the joys of being a D.C. sports fan but thankfully the Redskins take up so much time on sports radio that the Wiz rarely get talked about(and for good reason).
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avoiding injuries
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2 crucial FT misses in the final minute to keep MIL in it. Terrible. Onto OT...
Can't possibly get on webster's case after he hit that huge, difficult 3 to tie and had another great game overall.
tom22406
Footballguy
I will take that split between the Bucks and Pacers the last 2 road games.
Didn't expect the Pacers game to be close and once the word Nene was going to be out I knew they would lose big.I do want to see Seraphin get more minutes off the bench simply because he is one of the guys that can actually score,of course he lacks in other areas but they desperately need scoring from this bench and he at least can add something.
Hawks in town tonight and if Nene is back I fully expect a much better showing and a W.Sitting at 7-9 and they can't give away these home games and they should have a decent crowd because of the holiday(and being Sat.)
Didn't expect the Pacers game to be close and once the word Nene was going to be out I knew they would lose big.I do want to see Seraphin get more minutes off the bench simply because he is one of the guys that can actually score,of course he lacks in other areas but they desperately need scoring from this bench and he at least can add something.
Hawks in town tonight and if Nene is back I fully expect a much better showing and a W.Sitting at 7-9 and they can't give away these home games and they should have a decent crowd because of the holiday(and being Sat.)
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
I'm all in on this team now (all in meaning I think this is the team that achieves semi-respectability, of course- this is still the Wizards).
6-2 over two weeks in which they played four games in five days, despite losing Beal and still getting nothing from the bench. Now they finally get to rest. Nothing on the schedule this week but two home games, should be favored by at least 5-6 points in each. Could be over .500 by next weekend.
6-2 over two weeks in which they played four games in five days, despite losing Beal and still getting nothing from the bench. Now they finally get to rest. Nothing on the schedule this week but two home games, should be favored by at least 5-6 points in each. Could be over .500 by next weekend.
tom22406
Footballguy
I think I read somewhere that this would be the first time while Wall was here that the team was .500 or over(if it happens of course).Very nice win against the Hawks and Wall was back to his elite play again hitting shots and dishing out dimes.
I take back what I said about asking too much of Webster,he clearly can handle this role without any question.He has been outstanding filling in for Beal.
tom22406
Footballguy
Solid win last night and getting to the .500 mark for the first time since 09.Defense really stepped up and Wall again was outstanding as was Ariza.
Bench chipped in a little more with the extended time in the 4th so that was a huge plus to get the starters some rest even though they have a few days off between games.
It is sad that you get excited over a team hitting .500 but with how bad this franchise has been this does feel pretty good to see progress.
Bench chipped in a little more with the extended time in the 4th so that was a huge plus to get the starters some rest even though they have a few days off between games.
It is sad that you get excited over a team hitting .500 but with how bad this franchise has been this does feel pretty good to see progress.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
It's December 3 and the Redskins are the #3 sports story in Washington this morning.
tom22406
Footballguy
Just to put a bow on this post the Wiz went 7-4 in this stretch after last nights loss to the Bucks.
The big news was losing both Webster and Nene in the game,Webster with an ankle that looked as though it may cost him a few games but no official word on how bad it was yet and Nene and his foot troubles that will be with him in what seems like forever.
Porter did get some time in the game and didn't really do much but at least her got on the floor and with Webster maybe out for a few he may be needed to chip in a few extra minutes.
I did have one concern regarding the last play before OT when Wall drove and dished to Singleton for a 3,Why was Singleton the guy on that side of the floor and not Ariza(who was hot)?Nitpicking I'm sure but it did strike me odd they ran it that way.
tom22406
Footballguy
4 game losing streak now and a 9-13 record on the season after Chris Paul destroyed them last night.The game never was in doubt from start to finish with Paul showing once again why he is the best PG and it's not really even close.
Saw a stat that said with Nene out of the lineup since the start of last year the team is 3-24 and 0-6 just this year.3 road games looming but all can be won with the Knicks,Nets and Celtics.
Saw a stat that said with Nene out of the lineup since the start of last year the team is 3-24 and 0-6 just this year.3 road games looming but all can be won with the Knicks,Nets and Celtics.
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Don Quixote
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Beal is the player who has felt most needed over the past few games to me. Probably would not have helped with the Clippers, but the Bucks, Nuggets, and Hawks games were all winnable. They needed someone who could step up and make a shot at the end, and the team was forced to go to Ariza/Wall instead (having Webster out too did not help either). But I think they win those with Beal out there.
tom22406
Footballguy
The Wiz need a closer in the worst way and Beal would be the best option so I agree with your point,I was merely pointing out the record without Nene in my last post.
Wall seems to settle for his jumper more often than not.I would rather see him drive to the bucket and either dish or take a better shot.
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Footballguy
I was at the game last night and even in the loss, John Wall was far and away the best player on the court. Better then Chris Paul.
Unfortunately he was playing all by himself. I was pretty impressed with Seraphin too. He was able to actually manufacture some offense by himself.
Unfortunately he was playing all by himself. I was pretty impressed with Seraphin too. He was able to actually manufacture some offense by himself.
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Don Quixote
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TobiasFunke
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I fault Wittman for this. Their offense in the last two minutes of a close game collapses into 15 seconds of running the clock, one pick at the top of the key for Wall, and then he decides either to pop, find the roller or kick out for a wing jumper. It makes no sense to handcuff your offense like that in a one possession game. Sure, if you're up 6 points with a minute left the clock is your friend. But they're doing that on every late and close possession. For a team that thrives on ball movement and has some of the best corner 3 guys in the game, it's suicide. He should be telling them to run the same offense in the 47th and 48th minute that they run in the first 46 minutes.
In happier news, Beal may be back tonight.
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tom22406
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Very strange game last night in many ways for the Wiz but with Beal on fire in the 4th(that shot he hit over Bargnani was tremendous)they pulled out a 1 point win.
Wall was very good in the 1st half with 19 points to then very bad in the 2nd half with only 1 point and sat for an extended time while Temple ran the offense(and held his own).His shot selection and decision making was terrible but thankfully the rest of the team bailed him out(for once).
The turnovers(14 1st half) kept the Knicks in the game until they finally made a few runs and took over until Beal hit the dagger(cue Buck).
The Knicks on the final play don't take a timeout after Beal scores and end up with a bad 3 taken by Melo had me wondering WTF they were thinking.
Webster finally looked like his ankle was healthy and he was hitting everything to toss in 30 for much needed bench points this team is starved for.
I did not like Wittman sticking with Booker on Melo for as long as he did.I know Melo is a very tough guy to guard but Booker really had nothing for him and I would have liked to have seen Ariza at least in the game earlier(in the 4th) to try and slow him down.
Wall was very good in the 1st half with 19 points to then very bad in the 2nd half with only 1 point and sat for an extended time while Temple ran the offense(and held his own).His shot selection and decision making was terrible but thankfully the rest of the team bailed him out(for once).
The turnovers(14 1st half) kept the Knicks in the game until they finally made a few runs and took over until Beal hit the dagger(cue Buck).
The Knicks on the final play don't take a timeout after Beal scores and end up with a bad 3 taken by Melo had me wondering WTF they were thinking.
Webster finally looked like his ankle was healthy and he was hitting everything to toss in 30 for much needed bench points this team is starved for.
I did not like Wittman sticking with Booker on Melo for as long as he did.I know Melo is a very tough guy to guard but Booker really had nothing for him and I would have liked to have seen Ariza at least in the game earlier(in the 4th) to try and slow him down.
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Footballguy
So when Nene feels like playing were a playoff team. When his vajayjay hurts we're a disaster.
Well, if it makes you feel better, you still fleeced Denver in the trade to get him. Plus, that trade may have indirectly led to Karl getting fired (because he didn't play javale enough). If Grunfeld can close the loop by hiring Karl, this whole scheme is an all-time shark move.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
Zach Lowe did a Nene interview yesterday, good read. Made it hard to dislike the guy, not that I did before. Sure is frustrating, though.
Don Quixote
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tom22406
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tom22406
Footballguy
Let's see if they can get back to .500 tonight in the back end of a home and home with the Pistons after destroying them last game rather easily.
Wall has been nothing short of amazing in how complete a game he is playing on both ends of the floor.Once he started knocking down his jumper on a regular basis it took him from very good to elite and he seems to be playing more under control this year by not forcing things as much.
Gortat has been exactly what the doctor ordered for them down low.I imagine his price tag at seasons end has risen but they should be able to keep him around if he wants to stay(and all signs point to he likes it here).
Still wish they had better coaching but I will give Wittman his props for getting better production out of his bench lately.It does help that Nene and Webster are the first two off the bench and Booker being used as a starter has paid off with added production from him and much needed rest for Nene.
Wall has been nothing short of amazing in how complete a game he is playing on both ends of the floor.Once he started knocking down his jumper on a regular basis it took him from very good to elite and he seems to be playing more under control this year by not forcing things as much.
Gortat has been exactly what the doctor ordered for them down low.I imagine his price tag at seasons end has risen but they should be able to keep him around if he wants to stay(and all signs point to he likes it here).
Still wish they had better coaching but I will give Wittman his props for getting better production out of his bench lately.It does help that Nene and Webster are the first two off the bench and Booker being used as a starter has paid off with added production from him and much needed rest for Nene.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
Hopefully everyone can stay healthy. They really are a different team with everyone around.
...I was able to accomplish the rare feat of convincing some friends to go to a Wizards game, versus the Warriors on Sunday. Looking forward to that one.
...I was able to accomplish the rare feat of convincing some friends to go to a Wizards game, versus the Warriors on Sunday. Looking forward to that one.
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Footballguy
Thank you for reminding me.... I have that on my list of tickets from the wife's work.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
Great comeback tonight. This team is fun to watch.
tom22406
Footballguy
The struggle to get above .500 hit another snag last night in what could only be described as a hangover loss because the outside shot was wide open for most of the night for most of the team and they couldn't hit them to save their lives.
Booker was a rebounding machine and Wall had a solid effort but the rest of the team failed to do much of anything and Ellis hit some key shots at crunch time for the Mavs and a home loss was hung on them.
Raptors in town next and then the Warriors.
Booker was a rebounding machine and Wall had a solid effort but the rest of the team failed to do much of anything and Ellis hit some key shots at crunch time for the Mavs and a home loss was hung on them.
Raptors in town next and then the Warriors.
I was there last night, and the people I was with thought the Wizards looked like they had been out too late last night. Dirk hurt his back in the first 45 seconds last night and looked like Larry bird circa 1992 the rest of the game ... In other words, he basically wasn't playing. Wizards just never got in any sort of offensive rhythm. Nene had some flashes but picked up some fouls on some terrible calls which really took him out of it. Wall was good but left Calderon open on a couple 3s, and I thought he could have had an even better game with the slow-footed Calderon.
tom22406
Footballguy
Totally agree on the Wall comment.Calderon could have been exploited even more but he seemed to just let things play out even though the team was struggling to hit it's shots.Perfect time to force things when the rest of the team isn't getting it done.
They didn't run much at all and didn't use the pick and roll as often as I would have liked.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Sooo close to .500. Too bad they have the misfortune of running into the division leading Toronto Raptors tonight.
tom22406
Footballguy
They have been playing really good ball since the Gay trade so I doubt they take them lightly at all.
Coming off a horrible effort against Dallas should fuel the fire tonight for the Zards.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
I'm actually kind of expecting a let down game from Toronto. Big win over Indy, then the next two games at MIA and at IND. it'll either be a tight game the whole way or the Bullets control it and win by 10.
tom22406
Footballguy
Raptors simply kicked the #### out of the Zards last night.
One team came to play and the other was still in the locker room.Raptors passing was excellent as was the shot making.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Yep. Only thing the Wiz had going for them was Nene abusing Hayes (who only played because Tommy Tryhard was hurt). Wall and Wittman seemed to have words with each other in the post game recap.
Sure thought this would be a let down. I guess I'm used to the old Raptors and not the division leading Toronto Raptors.