RG3 in DC (1 Viewer)

[Buck Stop]

I'm assuming in most dynasty leagues, the assumption has been RG3 would be going in that 1.4-1.7 range. Now he's with the Redskins, does that make his value rise or fall in FF leagues?

 

[Multiple Scores]

Stays the same. The assumption always was he'd end up either a Redskin or a Brown, the weapons at both spots seem around equal I think.

 

[Boston]

Right off the bat I think you have to say it raises his value purely for the fact that there's a 99% chance he will be the opening-day starter in Washington...as far as his value goes I don't think you can get a legit handle on it until you see what the Skins do with all their cap-space...they went all in with Griffin so you have to assume they are going to use a decent amount of their cap space to put him in a position to succeed...

 

[Zimm]

I would say his value takes a bit of a dip, and i just don't see many weapons around him to succeed and being throw into the NFC East with the Eagles,Giants and Cowboys. I seen the Browns as a better fit since they at least have an offensive line and a aging division with Pitt and Balt soon to be on the decline.

 

[Thewhiteknuckler]

I still think pick 5 no matter where he went

 

[duaneok66]

He was always going to a crappy team - top picks usually do. His value didn't change in the last 24 hours like an above poster said. IMO he goes in the top 3 in most drafts.

 

[munchkin]

I still think pick 5 no matter where he went

I don't understand this even in a PPR League. Richardson is the only player i waould take ahead of RG3/Luck. Blackmon doesn't have Green/Jones upside. If the comparisons to Boldin are correct that makes him a nice player but not a potential make or break member of your Dynasty roster. Miller/Wilson/Martin, I'ld like to have any of those players on my roster but not ahead of the QBs. Floyd possibly if he can live up to his potential would give these guys a run for the money over the next 12 years. I'ld be more than happy to take Luck or RG3 at 2 and wouldn't argue with someone who took them ahead of Richardson. Cam Newton set an unrealistic bar for Rookie Qbs last season and it remains to be seen how his career plays out. But you will likely see his name come off the board in redraft and Dynasty League startups ahead of any player taken in last year's draft. Snyder is sick of losing. He is paying Shannahan a boat load of money to coach, the team has a lot of cap room, the second draft pick doesn't cost near as much to sign and RG3 is a physically gifted and heady player. I say the upside is pretty darn good.

 

[mcd]

Increases his value. Biggest thing for a rookie QB is to have a good offensive minded coach that can work with a young QB. Shanahan will work wonders with Griffin, much better spot then Cleveland.

 

[duaneok66]

excellent point, mcd. Still, I'd like to know who they will get on the receiving end.

 

[metoo]

I still think pick 5 no matter where he went

I don't understand this even in a PPR League. Richardson is the only player i waould take ahead of RG3/Luck. Blackmon doesn't have Green/Jones upside. If the comparisons to Boldin are correct that makes him a nice player but not a potential make or break member of your Dynasty roster. Miller/Wilson/Martin, I'ld like to have any of those players on my roster but not ahead of the QBs. Floyd possibly if he can live up to his potential would give these guys a run for the money over the next 12 years. I'ld be more than happy to take Luck or RG3 at 2 and wouldn't argue with someone who took them ahead of Richardson. Cam Newton set an unrealistic bar for Rookie Qbs last season and it remains to be seen how his career plays out. But you will likely see his name come off the board in redraft and Dynasty League startups ahead of any player taken in last year's draft. Snyder is sick of losing. He is paying Shannahan a boat load of money to coach, the team has a lot of cap room, the second draft pick doesn't cost near as much to sign and RG3 is a physically gifted and heady player. I say the upside is pretty darn good.

I don't understand it either. I own the 1.3 in one of my dynasty leagues and I will draft Luck or RG3 at that spot.

 

[flc735]

for me, im not drafting rg3 now. yes he was going to a bad team reguardless but now he's goping to a bad team with no 1st round picks in the next 3 years. were not going to be able to say "washington should pick this WR or that OT to help rg3", he's on his own, just him and fred davis. no thanks

 

[metoo]

for me, im not drafting rg3 now. yes he was going to a bad team reguardless but now he's goping to a bad team with no 1st round picks in the next 3 years. were not going to be able to say "washington should pick this WR or that OT to help rg3", he's on his own, just him and fred davis. no thanks

I think Washington will add a WR in free agency. Synder will spend the money.

 

[Warhogs]

for me, im not drafting rg3 now. yes he was going to a bad team reguardless but now he's goping to a bad team with no 1st round picks in the next 3 years. were not going to be able to say "washington should pick this WR or that OT to help rg3", he's on his own, just him and fred davis. no thanks

You are over rating the loss of those picks. The loss of those picks just means they will spend that money on free agents instead of rookies.

 

[BeTheMatch]

for me, im not drafting rg3 now. yes he was going to a bad team reguardless but now he's goping to a bad team with no 1st round picks in the next 3 years. were not going to be able to say "washington should pick this WR or that OT to help rg3", he's on his own, just him and fred davis. no thanks

I think Washington will add a WR in free agency. Synder will spend the money.

No WRs. No o-line. They better spend some money in free agency, especially since they've lost all their picks now. I don't think this is a great spot.

 

[duaneok66]

for me, im not drafting rg3 now. yes he was going to a bad team reguardless but now he's goping to a bad team with no 1st round picks in the next 3 years. were not going to be able to say "washington should pick this WR or that OT to help rg3", he's on his own, just him and fred davis. no thanks

who are you drafting instead??

 

[noneother]

I liked hankerson up until this hip surgery thing

 

[Thewhiteknuckler]

Better question does Helu's value go up?

 

[duaneok66]

for me, im not drafting rg3 now. yes he was going to a bad team reguardless but now he's goping to a bad team with no 1st round picks in the next 3 years. were not going to be able to say "washington should pick this WR or that OT to help rg3", he's on his own, just him and fred davis. no thanks

I think Washington will add a WR in free agency. Synder will spend the money.

No WRs. No o-line. They better spend some money in free agency, especially since they've lost all their picks now. I don't think this is a great spot.

Cleveland has a better line, but their skill position players stink as well. And what FA would have signed in Cleveland??

 

[Hang 10]

for me, im not drafting rg3 now. yes he was going to a bad team reguardless but now he's goping to a bad team with no 1st round picks in the next 3 years. were not going to be able to say "washington should pick this WR or that OT to help rg3", he's on his own, just him and fred davis. no thanks

No 1st the next TWO seasons. Obviously the skins have one this year cuz they're using it on Griffin.

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

I think a slight decrease until we see better pieces, OL and WR, placed around him. If they can put a few of those improvements around him, then no change.

 

[Jeremy]

Increases his value. Biggest thing for a rookie QB is to have a good offensive minded coach that can work with a young QB. Shanahan will work wonders with Griffin, much better spot then Cleveland.

Which young QBs has Shanahan developed. I'm having a hard time remembering one.

 

[Buck Stop]

Steve Young?

 

[duaneok66]

I think a slight decrease until we see better pieces, OL and WR, placed around him. If they can put a few of those improvements around him, then no change.

don't know how it's a decrease when he was going to a crap team regardless.

 

[Hang 10]

Increases his value. Biggest thing for a rookie QB is to have a good offensive minded coach that can work with a young QB. Shanahan will work wonders with Griffin, much better spot then Cleveland.

Which young QBs has Shanahan developed. I'm having a hard time remembering one.

Was Cutler really that long ago?

 

[Jeremy]

for me, im not drafting rg3 now. yes he was going to a bad team reguardless but now he's goping to a bad team with no 1st round picks in the next 3 years. were not going to be able to say "washington should pick this WR or that OT to help rg3", he's on his own, just him and fred davis. no thanks

I think Washington will add a WR in free agency. Synder will spend the money.

He always does, usually with poor results. This is the problem I'm having. I know Cleveland isn't exactly associated with excellence either, but Synder is such an incompetent boob that I'm having a hard time being objective. Fundamentally, I expect everything he touches (footballwise) to fail.

 

[BeTheMatch]

for me, im not drafting rg3 now. yes he was going to a bad team reguardless but now he's goping to a bad team with no 1st round picks in the next 3 years. were not going to be able to say "washington should pick this WR or that OT to help rg3", he's on his own, just him and fred davis. no thanks

I think Washington will add a WR in free agency. Synder will spend the money.

No WRs. No o-line. They better spend some money in free agency, especially since they've lost all their picks now. I don't think this is a great spot.

Cleveland has a better line, but their skill position players stink as well. And what FA would have signed in Cleveland??

I agree, I just don't think Washington is that much better than Cleveland.

 

[metoo]

for me, im not drafting rg3 now. yes he was going to a bad team reguardless but now he's goping to a bad team with no 1st round picks in the next 3 years. were not going to be able to say "washington should pick this WR or that OT to help rg3", he's on his own, just him and fred davis. no thanks

I think Washington will add a WR in free agency. Synder will spend the money.

No WRs. No o-line. They better spend some money in free agency, especially since they've lost all their picks now. I don't think this is a great spot.

Cleveland has a better line, but their skill position players stink as well. And what FA would have signed in Cleveland??

I think Cleveland would have been able to sign free agents if they got RG3. This the NFL not the NBA, players want to play with a top QB.

 

[duaneok66]

agreed - that's why I said no change. He will have a tough go of it in DC - but IF he is good as advertised then he will elevate the performances of the players around him.

 

[BeTheMatch]

Miami would've been better, IMO

 

[duaneok66]

for me, im not drafting rg3 now. yes he was going to a bad team reguardless but now he's goping to a bad team with no 1st round picks in the next 3 years. were not going to be able to say "washington should pick this WR or that OT to help rg3", he's on his own, just him and fred davis. no thanks

I think Washington will add a WR in free agency. Synder will spend the money.

No WRs. No o-line. They better spend some money in free agency, especially since they've lost all their picks now. I don't think this is a great spot.

Cleveland has a better line, but their skill position players stink as well. And what FA would have signed in Cleveland??

I think Cleveland would have been able to sign free agents if they got RG3. This the NFL not the NBA, players want to play with a top QB.

good point.

 

[netnalp]

I think it raises it slightly. Both teams are bad but I think the Skins are the better organization. Seems like the Skins have put a lot of money into trying to improve, it just hasn't panned out.

 

[Carl Eller's Dead Liver]

for me, im not drafting rg3 now. yes he was going to a bad team reguardless but now he's goping to a bad team with no 1st round picks in the next 3 years. were not going to be able to say "washington should pick this WR or that OT to help rg3", he's on his own, just him and fred davis. no thanks

You are over rating the loss of those picks. The loss of those picks just means they will spend that money on free agents instead of rookies.

I couldnt disagree more! Good free agents cost a lot of cash and the Redskins have many holes. Draft picks are now cheap talent and most likely these are going to be high picks! The Redskins are losers in this no matter how you slice it. Great job Rams!!

 

[mcd]

Increases his value. Biggest thing for a rookie QB is to have a good offensive minded coach that can work with a young QB. Shanahan will work wonders with Griffin, much better spot then Cleveland.

Which young QBs has Shanahan developed. I'm having a hard time remembering one.

Elway, Young, Cutler.

 

[cobalt_27]

Increases his value. Biggest thing for a rookie QB is to have a good offensive minded coach that can work with a young QB. Shanahan will work wonders with Griffin, much better spot then Cleveland.

Agreed. If WAS uses their FA stash wisely, they have the opportunity to put some solid pieces around him. System is more favorable and plays to his strengths, at least in theory, compared to a WCO. As an RG3 dynasty owner, I was hoping he would land with the Redskins over the Browns.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

for me, im not drafting rg3 now. yes he was going to a bad team reguardless but now he's goping to a bad team with no 1st round picks in the next 3 years. were not going to be able to say "washington should pick this WR or that OT to help rg3", he's on his own, just him and fred davis. no thanks

I think Washington will add a WR in free agency. Synder will spend the money.

No WRs. No o-line. They better spend some money in free agency, especially since they've lost all their picks now. I don't think this is a great spot.

Cleveland has a better line, but their skill position players stink as well. And what FA would have signed in Cleveland??

I think Cleveland would have been able to sign free agents if they got RG3. This the NFL not the NBA, players want to play with a top QB.

Sidney Rice and Santonio Holmes say otherwise

 

[Carl Eller's Dead Liver]

Increases his value. Biggest thing for a rookie QB is to have a good offensive minded coach that can work with a young QB. Shanahan will work wonders with Griffin, much better spot then Cleveland.

Agreed. If WAS uses their FA stash wisely, they have the opportunity to put some solid pieces around him. System is more favorable and plays to his strengths, at least in theory, compared to a WCO. As an RG3 dynasty owner, I was hoping he would land with the Redskins over the Browns.

That's the problem right there.....they will be able to get, what?....two top FAs with their stash. People are talking VJax....well there goes 1/3 of it. If they don't get VJax.....Colston? There goes 1/3 of it. The Redskins have many more needs than just two players! Trading these picks will haunt this franchise for years.

 

[cobalt_27]

Increases his value. Biggest thing for a rookie QB is to have a good offensive minded coach that can work with a young QB. Shanahan will work wonders with Griffin, much better spot then Cleveland.

Which young QBs has Shanahan developed. I'm having a hard time remembering one.

Elway, Young, Cutler.

People forget that Jake Plummer was a Pro Bowler and had a 71:47 TD:INT ratio and boasted a 4000 yard season when he was operating Shanahan's offense in Denver. Compared to his AZ days. Prior to coming to Denver, Plummer threw more INTs than TDs in 5 of his 6 years at AZ. After joining Shanny, he threw more TDs than INTs in 3 of his 4 seasons. Stunning improvement.

 

[thriftyrocker]

for me, im not drafting rg3 now. yes he was going to a bad team reguardless but now he's goping to a bad team with no 1st round picks in the next 3 years. were not going to be able to say "washington should pick this WR or that OT to help rg3", he's on his own, just him and fred davis. no thanks

I think Washington will add a WR in free agency. Synder will spend the money.

No WRs. No o-line. They better spend some money in free agency, especially since they've lost all their picks now. I don't think this is a great spot.

Cleveland has a better line, but their skill position players stink as well. And what FA would have signed in Cleveland??

I think Cleveland would have been able to sign free agents if they got RG3. This the NFL not the NBA, players want to play with a top QB.

good point.

Players want the most $. See every FA signing by Seattle in the past decade (Housh, Rice, Branch). Unless they're 32+ yo guys on their last trip (Ocho, Wayne, Lloyd) money is the deciding factor. Who has Cleveland ponyed up money for since they were an expansion team?

 

[Donsmith753]

Re the FA spending etc and the quality of the organisations. You need two things: a will and an ability.

Snyder has atleast shown one of these. (though Cleveland looks to be going in the right direction)

 

[cobalt_27]

Increases his value. Biggest thing for a rookie QB is to have a good offensive minded coach that can work with a young QB. Shanahan will work wonders with Griffin, much better spot then Cleveland.

Agreed. If WAS uses their FA stash wisely, they have the opportunity to put some solid pieces around him. System is more favorable and plays to his strengths, at least in theory, compared to a WCO. As an RG3 dynasty owner, I was hoping he would land with the Redskins over the Browns.

That's the problem right there.....they will be able to get, what?....two top FAs with their stash. People are talking VJax....well there goes 1/3 of it. If they don't get VJax.....Colston? There goes 1/3 of it. The Redskins have many more needs than just two players! Trading these picks will haunt this franchise for years.

Yes, but that's how it works. You pay 1/3 of it for elite skill players (vjax, not colston) and use the other 2/3 of it to round out areas of need with quality players. Depends on what they do. Work to be done. If they were guaranteed to get top-5 picks in 2013 and 2014, and they were guaranteed to hit on those players, and Griffin is NOT an elite QB, then you would oust likely be right. But, this seems like an appropriate angle/risk to take.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I still think pick 5 no matter where he went

I don't understand this even in a PPR League. Richardson is the only player i waould take ahead of RG3/Luck. Blackmon doesn't have Green/Jones upside. If the comparisons to Boldin are correct that makes him a nice player but not a potential make or break member of your Dynasty roster. Miller/Wilson/Martin, I'ld like to have any of those players on my roster but not ahead of the QBs. Floyd possibly if he can live up to his potential would give these guys a run for the money over the next 12 years. I'ld be more than happy to take Luck or RG3 at 2 and wouldn't argue with someone who took them ahead of Richardson.

Cam Newton set an unrealistic bar for Rookie Qbs last season and it remains to be seen how his career plays out. But you will likely see his name come off the board in redraft and Dynasty League startups ahead of any player taken in last year's draft.

Snyder is sick of losing. He is paying Shannahan a boat load of money to coach, the team has a lot of cap room, the second draft pick doesn't cost near as much to sign and RG3 is a physically gifted and heady player. I say the upside is pretty darn good.

I don't understand it either. I own the 1.3 in one of my dynasty leagues and I will draft Luck or RG3 at that spot.

The problem is that they essentially HAVE to become Cam Newton/Aaron Rodgers to be worth that pick.If you take a RB or WR there and they simply become an above average or good player at their position then that's still a good pick. If you draft a QB there and he's "just" good then that pick was pretty much a bust because everyone has a good QB.

People say that Luck is the next Peyton Manning. From a statistical standpoint, that's not good enough to be an elite FF player anymore. Peyton was valuable because he was putting up those numbers before everyone else did. Now everyone is doing it. Philip Rivers has put up numbers as good as Peyton did in his prime and he's a below average FF QB compared to the rest of the league.

In my 12 team dynasty the team with the worst starting QB is Jay Cutler. Behind that are Matt Ryan and Philip Rivers. Those guys are still putting up a lot of points but are extremely cheap to acquire.

If you grab Blackmon he doesn't have to be as good as Calvin Johnson or AJ Green to be worth that pick. If he's "only" as good as Roddy White then he's still really valuable to your team. RG3 has to become Cam Newton or Aaron Rodgers to be worth that spot. If he's "only" as good as Matt Ryan then he's basically a bust at that pick because a guy like Matt Ryan is extremely easy to acquire in a start 1 QB league.

If you think RG3/Luck are the next Newton/Rodgers at QB then grab them early, they're certainly worth it if they turn out to be. Just be aware that you're leaving yourself very little room for anything less.

 

[cobalt_27]

I still think pick 5 no matter where he went

I don't understand this even in a PPR League. Richardson is the only player i waould take ahead of RG3/Luck. Blackmon doesn't have Green/Jones upside. If the comparisons to Boldin are correct that makes him a nice player but not a potential make or break member of your Dynasty roster. Miller/Wilson/Martin, I'ld like to have any of those players on my roster but not ahead of the QBs. Floyd possibly if he can live up to his potential would give these guys a run for the money over the next 12 years. I'ld be more than happy to take Luck or RG3 at 2 and wouldn't argue with someone who took them ahead of Richardson.

Cam Newton set an unrealistic bar for Rookie Qbs last season and it remains to be seen how his career plays out. But you will likely see his name come off the board in redraft and Dynasty League startups ahead of any player taken in last year's draft.

Snyder is sick of losing. He is paying Shannahan a boat load of money to coach, the team has a lot of cap room, the second draft pick doesn't cost near as much to sign and RG3 is a physically gifted and heady player. I say the upside is pretty darn good.

I don't understand it either. I own the 1.3 in one of my dynasty leagues and I will draft Luck or RG3 at that spot.

The problem is that they essentially HAVE to become Cam Newton/Aaron Rodgers to be worth that pick.If you take a RB or WR there and they simply become an above average or good player at their position then that's still a good pick. If you draft a QB there and he's "just" good then that pick was pretty much a bust because everyone has a good QB.

People say that Luck is the next Peyton Manning. From a statistical standpoint, that's not good enough to be an elite FF player anymore. Peyton was valuable because he was putting up those numbers before everyone else did. Now everyone is doing it. Philip Rivers has put up numbers as good as Peyton did in his prime and he's a below average FF QB compared to the rest of the league.

In my 12 team dynasty the team with the worst starting QB is Jay Cutler. Behind that are Matt Ryan and Philip Rivers. Those guys are still putting up a lot of points but are extremely cheap to acquire.

If you grab Blackmon he doesn't have to be as good as Calvin Johnson or AJ Green to be worth that pick. If he's "only" as good as Roddy White then he's still really valuable to your team. RG3 has to become Cam Newton or Aaron Rodgers to be worth that spot. If he's "only" as good as Matt Ryan then he's basically a bust at that pick because a guy like Matt Ryan is extremely easy to acquire in a start 1 QB league.

If you think RG3/Luck are the next Newton/Rodgers at QB then grab them early, they're certainly worth it if they turn out to be. Just be aware that you're leaving yourself very little room for anything less.

This is all true for leagues that continue to be constructed so that the QB position is no more valuable than a placekicker.

 

[metoo]

I still think pick 5 no matter where he went

I don't understand this even in a PPR League. Richardson is the only player i waould take ahead of RG3/Luck. Blackmon doesn't have Green/Jones upside. If the comparisons to Boldin are correct that makes him a nice player but not a potential make or break member of your Dynasty roster. Miller/Wilson/Martin, I'ld like to have any of those players on my roster but not ahead of the QBs. Floyd possibly if he can live up to his potential would give these guys a run for the money over the next 12 years. I'ld be more than happy to take Luck or RG3 at 2 and wouldn't argue with someone who took them ahead of Richardson.

Cam Newton set an unrealistic bar for Rookie Qbs last season and it remains to be seen how his career plays out. But you will likely see his name come off the board in redraft and Dynasty League startups ahead of any player taken in last year's draft.

Snyder is sick of losing. He is paying Shannahan a boat load of money to coach, the team has a lot of cap room, the second draft pick doesn't cost near as much to sign and RG3 is a physically gifted and heady player. I say the upside is pretty darn good.

I don't understand it either. I own the 1.3 in one of my dynasty leagues and I will draft Luck or RG3 at that spot.

The problem is that they essentially HAVE to become Cam Newton/Aaron Rodgers to be worth that pick.If you take a RB or WR there and they simply become an above average or good player at their position then that's still a good pick. If you draft a QB there and he's "just" good then that pick was pretty much a bust because everyone has a good QB.

People say that Luck is the next Peyton Manning. From a statistical standpoint, that's not good enough to be an elite FF player anymore. Peyton was valuable because he was putting up those numbers before everyone else did. Now everyone is doing it. Philip Rivers has put up numbers as good as Peyton did in his prime and he's a below average FF QB compared to the rest of the league.

In my 12 team dynasty the team with the worst starting QB is Jay Cutler. Behind that are Matt Ryan and Philip Rivers. Those guys are still putting up a lot of points but are extremely cheap to acquire.

If you grab Blackmon he doesn't have to be as good as Calvin Johnson or AJ Green to be worth that pick. If he's "only" as good as Roddy White then he's still really valuable to your team. RG3 has to become Cam Newton or Aaron Rodgers to be worth that spot. If he's "only" as good as Matt Ryan then he's basically a bust at that pick because a guy like Matt Ryan is extremely easy to acquire in a start 1 QB league.

If you think RG3/Luck are the next Newton/Rodgers at QB then grab them early, they're certainly worth it if they turn out to be. Just be aware that you're leaving yourself very little room for anything less.

I draft the best player available period. I feel Luck and RG3 are better than what's left in dynasty after Richardson.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Increases his value. Biggest thing for a rookie QB is to have a good offensive minded coach that can work with a young QB. Shanahan will work wonders with Griffin, much better spot then Cleveland.

Which young QBs has Shanahan developed. I'm having a hard time remembering one.

Elway, Young, Cutler.

People forget that Jake Plummer was a Pro Bowler and had a 71:47 TD:INT ratio and boasted a 4000 yard season when he was operating Shanahan's offense in Denver. Compared to his AZ days. Prior to coming to Denver, Plummer threw more INTs than TDs in 5 of his 6 years at AZ. After joining Shanny, he threw more TDs than INTs in 3 of his 4 seasons. Stunning improvement.

Yep. And let's not forget how well Brian Griese played for a bit in Denver as well. He was terrific in 2000 before getting hurt. Shanahan almost always gets the most of quarterbacks. At the time, McNabb appeared to be the first he didn't get the most out of, but in hindsight, McNabb didn't have much left at that point, so there wasn't much to get.

 

[Couch Potato]

Better question does Helu's value go up?

Yes, because they are now less likely to use a high pick in the next 3 years to replace him. The picks that remain will probably be better used elsewhere.

 

[Carl Eller's Dead Liver]

Increases his value. Biggest thing for a rookie QB is to have a good offensive minded coach that can work with a young QB. Shanahan will work wonders with Griffin, much better spot then Cleveland.

Agreed. If WAS uses their FA stash wisely, they have the opportunity to put some solid pieces around him. System is more favorable and plays to his strengths, at least in theory, compared to a WCO. As an RG3 dynasty owner, I was hoping he would land with the Redskins over the Browns.

That's the problem right there.....they will be able to get, what?....two top FAs with their stash. People are talking VJax....well there goes 1/3 of it. If they don't get VJax.....Colston? There goes 1/3 of it. The Redskins have many more needs than just two players! Trading these picks will haunt this franchise for years.

Yes, but that's how it works. You pay 1/3 of it for elite skill players (vjax, not colston) and use the other 2/3 of it to round out areas of need with quality players. Depends on what they do. Work to be done. If they were guaranteed to get top-5 picks in 2013 and 2014, and they were guaranteed to hit on those players, and Griffin is NOT an elite QB, then you would oust likely be right. But, this seems like an appropriate angle/risk to take.

You can't win with an elite QB and a few free agents, that's the point. And that assuming RG3 is elite.

 

[mcd]

Increases his value. Biggest thing for a rookie QB is to have a good offensive minded coach that can work with a young QB. Shanahan will work wonders with Griffin, much better spot then Cleveland.

Agreed. If WAS uses their FA stash wisely, they have the opportunity to put some solid pieces around him. System is more favorable and plays to his strengths, at least in theory, compared to a WCO. As an RG3 dynasty owner, I was hoping he would land with the Redskins over the Browns.

That's the problem right there.....they will be able to get, what?....two top FAs with their stash. People are talking VJax....well there goes 1/3 of it. If they don't get VJax.....Colston? There goes 1/3 of it. The Redskins have many more needs than just two players! Trading these picks will haunt this franchise for years.

Yes, but that's how it works. You pay 1/3 of it for elite skill players (vjax, not colston) and use the other 2/3 of it to round out areas of need with quality players. Depends on what they do. Work to be done. If they were guaranteed to get top-5 picks in 2013 and 2014, and they were guaranteed to hit on those players, and Griffin is NOT an elite QB, then you would oust likely be right. But, this seems like an appropriate angle/risk to take.

You can't win with an elite QB and a few free agents, that's the point. And that assuming RG3 is elite.

I would think that the Colts have shown that an elite QB makes all the difference in the world.

 

[cobalt_27]

Increases his value. Biggest thing for a rookie QB is to have a good offensive minded coach that can work with a young QB. Shanahan will work wonders with Griffin, much better spot then Cleveland.

Agreed. If WAS uses their FA stash wisely, they have the opportunity to put some solid pieces around him. System is more favorable and plays to his strengths, at least in theory, compared to a WCO. As an RG3 dynasty owner, I was hoping he would land with the Redskins over the Browns.

That's the problem right there.....they will be able to get, what?....two top FAs with their stash. People are talking VJax....well there goes 1/3 of it. If they don't get VJax.....Colston? There goes 1/3 of it. The Redskins have many more needs than just two players! Trading these picks will haunt this franchise for years.

Yes, but that's how it works. You pay 1/3 of it for elite skill players (vjax, not colston) and use the other 2/3 of it to round out areas of need with quality players. Depends on what they do. Work to be done. If they were guaranteed to get top-5 picks in 2013 and 2014, and they were guaranteed to hit on those players, and Griffin is NOT an elite QB, then you would oust likely be right. But, this seems like an appropriate angle/risk to take.

You can't win with an elite QB and a few free agents, that's the point. And that assuming RG3 is elite.

Sure you can. They will not win a SB in 2012. But, there is no reason the FAs they do sign this year won't be around for 3-5 years after this one And, it's not like the skins have zero draft picks, either. They can still build.

 

[ExaltedOne]

The skins have done well with their 2nd-3rd rounders under Shanahallen. Hankerson, Helu, and Roystet all 3rd or later last year.

They can still get good players without their 1st rounder.

An elite qb is much harder to find. You can't deny RG3's athleticism, and he is a great person/ intelligent guy. With good coaching, he can be elite.

This year is the perfect storm with a great free agency class, but the Redakins couldn't get an elite qb there. They can get oline and receiver help.

I think this is a brilliant move, and don't think for a second that this was Snyder's move and not Shanahan/Allen. They know what they are doing.

 

[Bayhawks]

for me, im not drafting rg3 now. yes he was going to a bad team reguardless but now he's goping to a bad team with no 1st round picks in the next 3 years. were not going to be able to say "washington should pick this WR or that OT to help rg3", he's on his own, just him and fred davis. no thanks

Then, you probably weren't drafting him before, either. The Rams were going to get A LOT for RGIII; whether the 'Skins paid the price, or another team did.

The 'Skins have the cap space, if they choose to, to fill their holes in FA, despite the loss of the picks.