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Richard Sherman Won His Appeal (1 Viewer)
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bigdaddydave
Footballguy
Yeahhhhhhhh buddddddy!!!
You think he's played well lately? Watch what he does now that he's motivated by not making the pro-bowl!!!!!
You think he's played well lately? Watch what he does now that he's motivated by not making the pro-bowl!!!!!
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
The Seahawks have looked awesome lately, no doubt about it, but they will most likely have to win three road games to get to the big game, and they are still ultimately a 3-5 road team. Granted, they are trending upward in that area, having won their last two road games, but I am just saying, they won't be able to use that awesome home field advantage in the NFC playoffs (unless ARZ somehow wins at SF this weekend or Sea ends up playing the 6 seed in the NFC title game).
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
When you score 50.....doesn't matter. U mad bro?
sho nuff
Footballguy
Seems you are the one mad.He pointed out the FACT that Seattle has not been a great road team.
TheFootballJesus
Footballguy
Guy makes a good point and then gets an asinine 1 sentence response....Thank you for trolling. Keep up the good work.
Winning 3 road games in a row in the playoffs has been done twice in the last two years with the Giants and the Packers. Both teams got hot at the right time just like Seattle. Seattle has outscored their opponents in the last 3 games, (2 on the road) 150-30. I understand your skepticism but when a team is steam rolling, sometimes you just have to get out of the way and admire it as it goes by.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Best to ignore the troll.
Only one of those three was on the road (the Buffalo game). And actually, the Giants only had to win two on the road last year; their wild card game was a home win over Atlanta. But I get what you are saying, and it's a valid. I am just saying, I'd be a lot more confident in Seattle making it far if they weren't (most likely) playing all of their NFC playoff games on the road.
godgers12
Footballguy
I am def one of many eating crow on this one, didn't think there was a chance in hell he would beat it, not because I thought he was 100% guilty but just because of how rare it is. Anyways good for them, to be honest many people think it is all about them being hot and on a roll, which they obv are, but even more important is how healthy they are as a whole. Pretty rare this late in the season.
Either way I think they are def the team to beat in the NFC, and to be honest I am fine with that, let someone else have the bullseye. A rematch between the Pack and Hawks would be a amazing game to watch, oh yea and I have tickets
Either way I think they are def the team to beat in the NFC, and to be honest I am fine with that, let someone else have the bullseye. A rematch between the Pack and Hawks would be a amazing game to watch, oh yea and I have tickets
sho nuff
Footballguy
And those teams were not known as bad road teams either...Seattle has been for a while (even this year).And only one of their last 3 you are talking about was on the road...and it was in Canada against a terrible Bills team.That win against SF was very impressive though and they are looking tough.
The Seahawks definitely have the best home field advantage in the NFL, but I don't see them having too much trouble with WAS or DAL on the road. I'd probably rather play DAL, but WAS would be a better game to watch and thats who I think they'll end up playing. SF should beat the 6th seed which means SEA heads to ATL. ATL is just as good as SEA at home (as far as record goes), but Matt Ryan plays worse at home with 10 TDs and 9 INTS (vs 21/5 on the road) so its not out of the question for the Hawks to win @ ATL with the defense they have if Ryan throw up another stinker at home. SEA has a legitimate shot at making the NFC Championship game (vs. Packers???) and if they're riding that high they're gonna be tough to beat.
proninja
Footballguy
He's talking about the Bears game on the road against a pretty good D, when Wilson led the team on a long last minute drive to take the lead at the end of regulation, then another long drive in OT to win it.
godgers12
Footballguy
What is even crazier about this whole scenerio is it really works out in both the Packers and the Seahawks favor imo to reach the NFC championship. I dunno obv alot of football left before we even know the seeds but gonna be a great year of NFL playoff football either way.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
No he wasn't; he was talking about their last three games (ARZ, at Buff and SF).
proninja
Footballguy
Ah. I thought you were referring to the last bottom-response post of yours. The top-response gets me every time.
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ImTheScientist
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Hawks are a 10 or 11 win team. Im not worried about them playing anywhere. This team is on fire. People continue to use old played out reasons..... go ahead. They have a 5'10" QB...cool.....they can't win on the road....ok.......the GB game, sure pal.... they have a bad offense...ya........Bottom line is people are uninformed when it comes to the Hawks.
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mad sweeney
Footballguy
Was not expecting that. At all.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
It's all good. It should definitely be interesting to see what happens in the NFC with a Falcons team many believe are fool's gold, a Packers team that somehow has flown under the radar, a 49er team that is suddenly wrecked by injuries, what will be a flawed-NFC East champ, a red hot Seahawks team and a 6 seed that may or may not be dangerous.
MarcO
Footballguy
I know the guy who collects the samples for the team. The vial had a crack in it.
packseasontix
Footballguy
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/seahawks-db-richard-sherman-wins-ped-suspension-appeal-173051501--nfl.html
He didnt win it by not taking adderal he won it because his first cup leaked. Not exactly the whole I told you so "win". Did he win the appeal, yes. Did he not take adderal hardly, unless the 2nd cup had adderal in it.
He didnt win it by not taking adderal he won it because his first cup leaked. Not exactly the whole I told you so "win". Did he win the appeal, yes. Did he not take adderal hardly, unless the 2nd cup had adderal in it.
proninja
Footballguy
Well, he did tell us so
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
If the cup is cracked, the test is whack.
sho nuff
Footballguy
What is old and played out about their current road record?
sho nuff
Footballguy
Agreed...the NFC...hell, the whole NFL is wide open in the playoffs.Any number of teams out of each conference would not shock me if they made it to the SB.It's all good. It should definitely be interesting to see what happens in the NFC with a Falcons team many believe are fool's gold, a Packers team that somehow has flown under the radar, a 49er team that is suddenly wrecked by injuries, what will be a flawed-NFC East champ, a red hot Seahawks team and a 6 seed that may or may not be dangerous.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
JHC, why do you take the bait every damn time?
Tau837
Footballguy
It is true that they are 3-5 on the road this year, but I think people are overestimating how bad they are on the road.1. All 5 road losses were by 7 points or less, so they were competitive in every road game.2. The loss at Arizona in week 1 was Wilson's first NFL start, and he threw 2 or 3 passes that should have been caught for the game winning TD. They should be 4-4 on the road.3. They were 1-4 on the road in the first half of the season but are 2-1 on the road in the second half, with the only loss in a 1 pm EST game as far across the country (Miami) from Seattle as possible. And with a quality win at Chicago. Normally, this sample size might not mean much, but it could be meaningful with a rookie QB. Clearly, Wilson has gotten a lot more comfortable as the season has progressed, and it's showing in their results on the field.
It's entirely reasonable to think Sherman's test could be contaminated as a cup with a broken seal was used and that cup was in proximity to a positive test (Browner).
sho nuff
Footballguy
And you have to comment so often too?Sorry you don't like people pointing out facts.And I don't think scientist is baiting...I think he is that darn homeristic and foolish.
sho nuff
Footballguy
And its entirely reasonable to understand that this was an appeal won on a technicality...like Ryan Braun.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Which is why you shouldn't indulge him by replying to him, but all you are doing is feeding his ego by doing so. But I know, I know, you can't let any perceived dig at the Packers go without a comment, so carry on.
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butcher boy
Footballguy
to everyone celebrating a cheater getting off on a technicality. Shame on you.
sho nuff
Footballguy
How is the Seahawks road record a dig on the Packers btw?If you want to criticize me...at least don't have to make things up to add in to it.
There are plenty legit digs on the Packers...I have been digging on some of them all year long (OL...defense without clay...lack of a pass rush when clay is not in there...Rodgers holding the ball too long...Finley's mouth...McCarthy's need to go all pass too often...and Crosby not being able to kick for squat).
But keep going I guess...if it makes you feel better.
proninja
Footballguy
Chain of custody isn't a technicality. It's essential to proving something was done wrong. Do we know he didn't take adderall? No. Do we know he did? No. Just like everyone else in football. If the sample really was positive, all the NFL had to do was follow the procedures they set out. But they didn't, so now we don't know. Sure, some will guess, but that's dumb. So don't do it.
packseasontix
Footballguy
100% disagree here, the NFL did not set out to have a leaky cup. The leaky cup was also not Shermans fault. It arose and thus the test should have been automatically thrown out. I would bet money on that Sherman took adderall. Why? Because he tested positive and unless you can prove pouring one cup of urine into another automatically make magic adderall appear then he had taken the substance.In the end its shame on the NFL for even releasing the results, they should have been thrown out and never even tested. The point was just like with Braun he tested positive. The only thing Braun had on his side is that they could conduct tests to a sealed urine sample and supposedly make it raise to amounts found in the test that was thrown out for him.Chain of custody isn't a technicality. It's essential to proving something was done wrong. Do we know he didn't take adderall? No. Do we know he did? No. Just like everyone else in football. If the sample really was positive, all the NFL had to do was follow the procedures they set out. But they didn't, so now we don't know. Sure, some will guess, but that's dumb. So don't do it.
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mad sweeney
Footballguy
Unfortunately, the truth can't be known. There's no way to know if the second cup was tainted or not. However, he maintained his innocence from the beginning, his play has absolutely not gone down whatsoever since the test, and if what he says is true about the person that conducted the test (6 months on the job and already 6, now 7, overturned positives) then there's plenty of reasonable doubt on his side for me to believe him. I'm not going to announce that he didn't do it and blindly stick by it, and i know that "haters" (God I hate that word) are not going to believe him or even consider the pro side to his arguments.* There's just no way that such a sloppy test procedure can be allowed to stand and it should cast at least a reasonable doubt on his innocence. Oddly, I think that part of the reason the NFL went against expectations here is because he's such a loud mouth. Too much spotlight on the poor testing procedure. I don't trust Goodell an inch to not have upheld it otherwise.* - and for some reason there's a seemingly large Pete-hating contingent. I'm not sure how Pete "gamed the system" or Cheaty Pete had anything to do with it or how he even got the rep for cheating/working the system. The Bush thing was completely outside the school, he wasn't a ref in the GB game and he doesn't dose his players. It's just odd.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
100% disagree with your disagree. Clearly you have ZERO understanding of how science & testing works. There is a reason for having a protocol. If you run a test that does not adhere to the protocol the test is invalid. This is really, really basic stuff.100% disagree here, the NFL did not set out to have a leaky cup. The leaky cup was also not Shermans fault. It arose and thus the test should have been automatically thrown out. I would bet money on that Sherman took adderall. Why? Because he tested positive and unless you can prove pouring one cup of urine into another automatically make magic adderall appear then he had taken the substance.In the end its shame on the NFL for even releasing the results, they should have been thrown out and never even tested. The point was just like with Braun he tested positive. The only thing Braun had on his side is that they could conduct tests to a sealed urine sample and supposedly make it raise to amounts found in the test that was thrown out for him.Chain of custody isn't a technicality. It's essential to proving something was done wrong. Do we know he didn't take adderall? No. Do we know he did? No. Just like everyone else in football. If the sample really was positive, all the NFL had to do was follow the procedures they set out. But they didn't, so now we don't know. Sure, some will guess, but that's dumb. So don't do it.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
It's not a technicality, it's a completely faulty test procedure. People should be happy that the NFL is willing to admit that and the tests from now on should be done with more care to ensure it doesn't happen again. There's no way of knowing if he is guilty or not, period. The NFL screwed it up too much to know for sure. Whether or not Sherman actually used it, this very public incident should ensure that no one in the future will be hit with a faulty positive. Could be one of your team's players next time.
I am going to mark this post of yours pizza and you are going to be eating crow. The winner of the Cowboys - Redskins game will wish they had lost their game when the 'Hawks humiliate them on Wild Card Sunday.
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packseasontix
Footballguy
Hmmmmm, ya this has NOTHING to do with the legal side of things why they can't pour the sample into another cup.... You believe Ryan Braun is 100% innocent as well correct?Also I had said the NFL should have thrown it out. At the same time can you show be proof that by simply pouring urine from 1 testing cup into another testing cup adderall testing would all of a sudden become positive?100% disagree with your disagree. Clearly you have ZERO understanding of how science & testing works. There is a reason for having a protocol. If you run a test that does not adhere to the protocol the test is invalid. This is really, really basic stuff.100% disagree here, the NFL did not set out to have a leaky cup. The leaky cup was also not Shermans fault. It arose and thus the test should have been automatically thrown out. I would bet money on that Sherman took adderall. Why? Because he tested positive and unless you can prove pouring one cup of urine into another automatically make magic adderall appear then he had taken the substance.In the end its shame on the NFL for even releasing the results, they should have been thrown out and never even tested. The point was just like with Braun he tested positive. The only thing Braun had on his side is that they could conduct tests to a sealed urine sample and supposedly make it raise to amounts found in the test that was thrown out for him.Chain of custody isn't a technicality. It's essential to proving something was done wrong. Do we know he didn't take adderall? No. Do we know he did? No. Just like everyone else in football. If the sample really was positive, all the NFL had to do was follow the procedures they set out. But they didn't, so now we don't know. Sure, some will guess, but that's dumb. So don't do it.
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