Ricky Williams tested positive for marijuana (1 Viewer)

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

what i can't believe is that he threw all this away for weed! whats so great about cotton mouth, munchies, and falling asleep?

some people like it

 

[3C's]

what i can't believe is that he threw all this away for weed!

yeah, what a dope!

 

[corpcow]

It's okay. He has a disease and marijuana helps him with that disease.

I don't people accept this as reality but in all honesty I don't see (aside from legality) him smoking herb is any different or worse than him popping pills to control it. In all honesty I believe that smoking shouldn't even be an issue.

Of course. Pot doesn't exactly "enhance performance". The big issue is that, like it or not, it's still illegal, and they need to be strict. It's a banned substance... and thus subject to the same guidelines as other "real" bad stuff.

 

[Marc Faletti]

drug testers = racist

It's a ploy bythe da man to keep a brother brutha down!!

fixed.

I'm confused. What is this correction supposed to imply?

 

[KING]

maybe without the pressure of returning he can get his life under control

life > NFL

 

[Dirty Weasel]

I am 40 now, but can say from past experience that putting away the bong isn't that hard to do, given Ricky's shyness. People just can't fathom why someone would opt for dope over money and fame, but I think I can relate to him somewhat. If you see Ricky tell him I said "high". Don't hate the man because he may have screwed over your FF dreams.

 

[QuizGuy66]

And with that Steven Jackson owners can breathe a little easier.

-QG

 

[redman]

And with that Steven Jackson owners can breathe a little easier.-QG

Why? You worried about second hand smoke?

 

[Kit Fisto]

Well, I'm surprised.

He values getting high more than playing pro football for millions of dollars. Sad. Ricky blew it, plain and simple.

If I had a job interview coming up that I knew they tested for, I'd find a way to lay off the pipe.

As far as fantasy football is concerned, I picked him up off the waiver-wire at the trade/waive deadline, so I've lost nothing here. He'll be off my squad come cut-down day.

 

[Warhogs]

I am finally ready to put the thoughts of Ricky returning to the NFL behind me and move on. I know others had done so long before but I am just now ready to say I don't see RW ever playing in the NFL again.

 

[Gold Plated Nails]

It's okay. He has a disease and marijuana helps him with that disease.

I don't people accept this as reality but in all honesty I don't see (aside from legality) him smoking herb is any different or worse than him popping pills to control it. In all honesty I believe that smoking shouldn't even be an issue.

smoking pot is illegal in the US, so it's an issue.

Reading comprehension down?smoking pot is illegal in the US, so it's THE issue ( You can glaze over it with a disclaimer as you did till the cows come home).

 

[redman]

Well, I'm surprised.

He values getting high more than playing pro football for millions of dollars. Sad. Ricky blew it, plain and simple. :X

If I had a job interview coming up that I knew they tested for, I'd find a way to lay off the pipe.

As far as fantasy football in concerned, I picked him up off the waiver wire at the trade waive deadline, so I've lost nothing here. He'll be off my squad come cut-down day.

It's probably an odd position for me to take given my politics, but I honestly have no particular problem with the guy. We have a tendency to ignore the physical toll that this game takes upon our favorite gladiators, and also to forget that money isn't everything, something easily lost in a world of escalating signing bonuses and a pimp-my-crib, makin'-it-rain celebrity athlete culture. He's a free spirit. Big deal.

He's wasting his talent. Big deal again. It's his to waste.

If you must fault him for something, fault him for in all likelihood acting in bad faith as to the Dolphins regarding the sincerity of his comeback, which now looks more like an effort to preserve his right to his signing bonus and other guaranteed monies. I care little about that, but whatever.

At the end of the day, appreciate the irony of the fact that, outside of Dolphin fandom, the people who are sore about Ricky's supposedly screwed up priorities and slacker lifestyle are a bunch of overweight, thirtysomething fantasy football geeks players who spend entirely too much time buying, selling, trading, predicting, living and dying with the professional fates of people who will never know their names and don't much care to.

 

[QUEZILLA]

It's a well known fact that most of the league smokes pot. All they have to do is pass 1 test, and they don't get tested for another year. They should just take it off the list of drugs they test for.

It's especially stupid since the performance enhancing drugs (HGH) can't be tessted for, but the non performance enhancing ones can.

It's petty, but he is still stupid for not quiting.

 

[Banger]

maybe without the pressure of returning he can get his life under controllife > NFL

Every time I've heard him speak he seems to have his priorities in line. From past interviews it just seemed that the NFL just isn't a real big priority to him. He definitely marches to a different beat but that's what makes the world go round. Just because a guy smokes pot doesn't mean his life is out of control.

 

[LHUCKS]

maybe without the pressure of returning he can get his life under controllife > NFL

Every time I've heard him speak he seems to have his priorities in line. From past interviews it just seemed that the NFL just isn't a real big priority to him. He definitely marches to a different beat but that's what makes the world go round. Just because a guy smokes pot doesn't mean his life is out of control.

 

[Phlash]

maybe without the pressure of returning he can get his life under controllife > NFL

Every time I've heard him speak he seems to have his priorities in line. From past interviews it just seemed that the NFL just isn't a real big priority to him. He definitely marches to a different beat but that's what makes the world go round. Just because a guy smokes pot doesn't mean his life is out of control.

x2

 

[Dulymus Mudhounds]

maybe without the pressure of returning he can get his life under controllife > NFL

Every time I've heard him speak he seems to have his priorities in line. From past interviews it just seemed that the NFL just isn't a real big priority to him. He definitely marches to a different beat but that's what makes the world go round. Just because a guy smokes pot doesn't mean his life is out of control.

x2

this thinking makes me laugh.POTHEAD OF THE WORLD UNTIE!!!!!Mud

 

[Banger]

maybe without the pressure of returning he can get his life under controllife > NFL

Every time I've heard him speak he seems to have his priorities in line. From past interviews it just seemed that the NFL just isn't a real big priority to him. He definitely marches to a different beat but that's what makes the world go round. Just because a guy smokes pot doesn't mean his life is out of control.

x2

this thinking makes me laugh.POTHEAD OF THE WORLD UNTIE!!!!!Mud

Whether you like it or not it's reality. I know a couple brain surgeons at some of the best hospitals in NY city, top lawyers, etc. that smoke pot and they are some of the most successful people you will ever meet.

 

[Silver & Black]

This thread is making me hungry.

 

[phthalatemagic]

maybe without the pressure of returning he can get his life under controllife > NFL

Every time I've heard him speak he seems to have his priorities in line. From past interviews it just seemed that the NFL just isn't a real big priority to him. He definitely marches to a different beat but that's what makes the world go round. Just because a guy smokes pot doesn't mean his life is out of control.

x2

this thinking makes me laugh.POTHEAD OF THE WORLD UNTIE!!!!!Mud

Whether you like it or not it's reality. I know a couple brain surgeons at some of the best hospitals in NY city, top lawyers, etc. that smoke pot and they are some of the most successful people you will ever meet.

doesn't everyone?

 

[Banger]

maybe without the pressure of returning he can get his life under controllife > NFL

Every time I've heard him speak he seems to have his priorities in line. From past interviews it just seemed that the NFL just isn't a real big priority to him. He definitely marches to a different beat but that's what makes the world go round. Just because a guy smokes pot doesn't mean his life is out of control.

x2

this thinking makes me laugh.POTHEAD OF THE WORLD UNTIE!!!!!Mud

Whether you like it or not it's reality. I know a couple brain surgeons at some of the best hospitals in NY city, top lawyers, etc. that smoke pot and they are some of the most successful people you will ever meet.

doesn't everyone?

I thought so but some of the close minded responses in this thread surprise me. Not to turn this into an FFA thread but the history of pot's illegality is interesting.....The Mexican ConnectionIn the early 1900s, the western states developed significant tensions regarding the influx of Mexican-Americans. The revolution in Mexico in 1910 spilled over the border, with General Pershing's army clashing with bandit Pancho Villa. Later in that decade, bad feelings developed between the small farmer and the large farms that used cheaper Mexican labor. Then, the depression came and increased tensions, as jobs and welfare resources became scarce.One of the "differences" seized upon during this time was the fact that many Mexicans smoked marijuana and had brought the plant with them.However, the first state law outlawing marijuana did so not because of Mexicans using the drug. Oddly enough, it was because of Mormons using it. Mormons who traveled to Mexico in 1910 came back to Salt Lake City with marijuana. The church was not pleased and ruled against use of the drug. Since the state of Utah automatically enshrined church doctrine into law, the first state marijuana prohibition was established in 1915. (Today, Senator Orrin Hatch serves as the prohibition arm of this heavily church-influenced state.)Other states quickly followed suit with marijuana prohibition laws, including Wyoming (1915), Texas (1919), Iowa (1923), Nevada (1923), Oregon (1923), Washington (1923), Arkansas (1923), and Nebraska (1927). These laws tended to be specifically targeted against the Mexican-American population.When Montana outlawed marijuana in 1927, the Butte Montana Standard reported a legislator's comment: "When some beet field peon takes a few traces of this stuff... he thinks he has just been elected president of Mexico, so he starts out to execute all his political enemies." In Texas, a senator said on the floor of the Senate: "All Mexicans are crazy, and this stuff [marijuana] is what makes them crazy."

 

[KING]

maybe without the pressure of returning he can get his life under controllife > NFL

Every time I've heard him speak he seems to have his priorities in line. From past interviews it just seemed that the NFL just isn't a real big priority to him. He definitely marches to a different beat but that's what makes the world go round. Just because a guy smokes pot doesn't mean his life is out of control.

x2

this thinking makes me laugh.POTHEAD OF THE WORLD UNTIE!!!!!Mud

Whether you like it or not it's reality. I know a couple brain surgeons at some of the best hospitals in NY city, top lawyers, etc. that smoke pot and they are some of the most successful people you will ever meet.

doesn't everyone?

i'm not certain what you would consider priorities. losing millions of dollars? throw away the prestige of a HOF career? being remembered as a "pothead"? just because a person can speak well, dosn't mean he is in control. pot is contoling him. he is done now. there is no going back. the dye is cast. this is not someone who is anywhere near in control. pity him, but don't defend him. learn from him.

 

[MooseCats]

Well, I'm surprised.

He values getting high more than playing pro football for millions of dollars. Sad. Ricky blew it, plain and simple.

If I had a job interview coming up that I knew they tested for, I'd find a way to lay off the pipe.

As far as fantasy football in concerned, I picked him up off the waiver wire at the trade waive deadline, so I've lost nothing here. He'll be off my squad come cut-down day.

It's probably an odd position for me to take given my politics, but I honestly have no particular problem with the guy. We have a tendency to ignore the physical toll that this game takes upon our favorite gladiators, and also to forget that money isn't everything, something easily lost in a world of escalating signing bonuses and a pimp-my-crib, makin'-it-rain celebrity athlete culture. He's a free spirit. Big deal.

He's wasting his talent. Big deal again. It's his to waste.

If you must fault him for something, fault him for in all likelihood acting in bad faith as to the Dolphins regarding the sincerity of his comeback, which now looks more like an effort to preserve his right to his signing bonus and other guaranteed monies. I care little about that, but whatever.

At the end of the day, appreciate the irony of the fact that, outside of Dolphin fandom, the people who are sore about Ricky's supposedly screwed up priorities and slacker lifestyle are a bunch of overweight, thirtysomething fantasy football geeks players who spend entirely too much time buying, selling, trading, predicting, living and dying with the professional fates of people who will never know their names and don't much care to.

 

[Slingblade]

It's okay. He has a disease and marijuana helps him with that disease.

I don't people accept this as reality but in all honesty I don't see (aside from legality) him smoking herb is any different or worse than him popping pills to control it. In all honesty I believe that smoking shouldn't even be an issue.

smoking pot is illegal in the US, so it's an issue.

Reading comprehension down?smoking pot is illegal in the US, so it's THE issue ( You can glaze over it with a disclaimer as you did till the cows come home).You do at least realize it is illegal because the government can't tax it, right?

 

[Shermanator]

maybe without the pressure of returning he can get his life under controllife > NFL

Every time I've heard him speak he seems to have his priorities in line. From past interviews it just seemed that the NFL just isn't a real big priority to him. He definitely marches to a different beat but that's what makes the world go round. Just because a guy smokes pot doesn't mean his life is out of control.

x2

this thinking makes me laugh.POTHEAD OF THE WORLD UNTIE!!!!!Mud

Whether you like it or not it's reality. I know a couple brain surgeons at some of the best hospitals in NY city, top lawyers, etc. that smoke pot and they are some of the most successful people you will ever meet.

doesn't everyone?

. pot is contoling him.

Actually,pot isnt addictive. It has no addictive qualities. So it is definately not controling him. He likes to smoke. Thats about all there is to it

 

[phthalatemagic]

maybe without the pressure of returning he can get his life under controllife > NFL

Every time I've heard him speak he seems to have his priorities in line. From past interviews it just seemed that the NFL just isn't a real big priority to him. He definitely marches to a different beat but that's what makes the world go round. Just because a guy smokes pot doesn't mean his life is out of control.

x2

this thinking makes me laugh.POTHEAD OF THE WORLD UNTIE!!!!!Mud

Whether you like it or not it's reality. I know a couple brain surgeons at some of the best hospitals in NY city, top lawyers, etc. that smoke pot and they are some of the most successful people you will ever meet.

doesn't everyone?

. pot is contoling him.

Actually,pot isnt addictive. It has no addictive qualities. So it is definately not controling him. He likes to smoke. Thats about all there is to it

The FDA thinks it might be addictive.

 

[chris1969]

maybe without the pressure of returning he can get his life under control

life > NFL

Every time I've heard him speak he seems to have his priorities in line. From past interviews it just seemed that the NFL just isn't a real big priority to him. He definitely marches to a different beat but that's what makes the world go round. Just because a guy smokes pot doesn't mean his life is out of control.

x2

this thinking makes me laugh.POTHEAD OF THE WORLD UNTIE!!!!!

Mud

Whether you like it or not it's reality. I know a couple brain surgeons at some of the best hospitals in NY city, top lawyers, etc. that smoke pot and they are some of the most successful people you will ever meet.

doesn't everyone?

. pot is contoling him.

Actually,pot isnt addictive. It has no addictive qualities. So it is definately not controling him. He likes to smoke. Thats about all there is to it

http://www.brown.edu/Student_Services/Heal...d/marijuana.htmIs marijuana addictive?

No one would argue that marijuana is as addictive as alcohol or cocaine. However, it's wrong to say that it is not at all addictive. More and more studies are finding that marijuana has addictive properties. Both animal and human studies show physical and psychological withdrawal symptoms from marijuana, including irritability, restlessness, insomnia, nausea and intense dreams. Tolerance to marijuana also builds up rapidly. Heavy users need 8 times higher doses to get the same effects as infrequent users.

For a small percentage of people who use it, marijuana can be highly addictive. It is estimated that 10% to 14% of users will become heavily dependent. More than 120,000 people in the US seek treatment for marijuana addiction every year. Because the consequences of marijuana use can be subtle and insidious, it is more difficult to recognize signs of addiction. Cultural and societal beliefs that marijuana cannot be addictive make it less likely for people to seek help or to get support for quitting.

Not to sound like your mom, but don't believe what your buddies tell ya. Also, pot seems to be a great de-motivator, and causes under-achievement, especially on the football field. eventually it catches up with their work ethic

 

[Bri]

In April? And we're just hearing about it now?

I believe the league and teams do not make test results public information, so it's no surprise that it took this long to come out.

True and good point but I feel like a charade was put up about his possible reinstatement...in a way

 

[Anonymous Internet User]

Traded Cadillac Williams and Ricky for Kevin Jones, Tatum Bell, Warrick Dunn, and Laverneaus Coles. Acquired Ricky just as the news was coming out regarding his possible reinstation. I knew somebody in my league would take the bait.

I think you have amazing foresight.You knew that this is all the most elaborate plot ever, ever to motivate Tatum Bell.

 

[Phlash]

Traded Cadillac Williams and Ricky for Kevin Jones, Tatum Bell, Warrick Dunn, and Laverneaus Coles. Acquired Ricky just as the news was coming out regarding his possible reinstation. I knew somebody in my league would take the bait.

I think you have amazing foresight.You knew that this is all the most elaborate plot ever, ever to motivate Tatum Bell.

Tatum Bell cannot get enough motivation. I bet Shannahan still calls him in Detroit at 3 in the morning and tells him he needs to prepare better if he wants to be the starter.

 

[fatness]

because Williams tested positive while he was still suspended, the league considers him to be in the treatment phase of the policy and not the disciplinary phase, so the automatic one-year suspension doesn't necessarily apply.

link

Williams sought to end a one-year drug suspension last month when he asked to rejoin the Miami Dolphins. But following the positive drug test, clinicians in the NFL's substance abuse program advised commissioner Roger Goodell to delay reinstatement, the person close to the case said. The person spoke on condition of anonymity because of the confidential nature of the testing program.

Williams, through his agent, Leigh Steinberg, issued a statement to The Associated Press on Friday night:

"Due to the recent reports about me failing a drug test, I feel it is appropriate for me to issue this statement. Last month, following a psychological evaluation requested by the NFL, we—the psychiatrist and I—came to the realization that there were a few things I needed to iron out about myself in order to make my return to the NFL as successful as possible.

"I am an honest, God-fearing man who is intensely dedicated to being the best person I can be on and off the football field. There is no need to smear my name or to defame my character for the sake of news. When the time is right, God willing, I will be back on the field scoring touchdowns for whatever team is fortunate enough to believe in me."

link

Williams went on to thank his backers.

"I appreciate all the support I have received from my fans," Williams added in his statement, "and I assure all others that I am strong, clean, and happily preparing myself for a triumphant return to the NFL."

link

 

[Csonka4life]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2867381

Updated: May 11, 2007, 11:02 AM ET

Docs recommend delay of Williams' NFL reinstatementBy Chris Mortensen

ESPN.com

Miami Dolphins running back Ricky Williams tested positive for marijuana in April and will not be allowed to apply for reinstatement to the NFL until September, sources told ESPN's Chris Mortensen.

Williams

Williams was suspended last year for violation of the substance abuse policy and was eligible to be reinstated this month, but the league's medical advisors that oversee Williams' personal rehabilitation program recently notified commissioner Roger Goodell of the positive test, sources said.

The doctors also recommended that Williams not be allowed to apply for reinstatement until September, sources said. The commissioner usually adheres to the advice of the medical advisors under the substance abuse policy.

"Falling off the wagon is part of rehab," a source said. "Based on the medical evidence in Ricky's case, the doctors say it's too early to come back. He had the positive test last month. Remember, he's been diagnosed with social anxiety disorder -- that's a real disease and a good percentage of those folks self-medicate with substances like marijuana, often at the moment they are about to have a high level of social interaction."

League spokesman Greg Aiello said the NFL would have no comment, as did Dolphins spokesman Harvey Greene.

David Cornwell, an attorney who has represented Williams during his substance abuse cases, said he would honor the confidentiality policies in effect with another no comment.

Chris Mortensen covers the NFL for ESPN. Why is this substance treated like cocaine or heroine or meth? Yes I know it's illegal, but that's only because of bs fears of reefer madness in the 30's. Let him play for the Amsterdam Admirals in NFL Europe.........

 

[bullitt]

Just because a guy smokes pot doesn't mean his life is out of control.

True, but when he can't stop smoking pot, or the pot smoking interferes with the Job, it is a problem.