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Ricky Williams will practice immediately (1 Viewer)

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Source: Williams OK to practice, will play

The much-anticipated meeting between Cam Cameron and Ricky Williams apparently went off without a hitch this morning and the running back has been told he can begin practicing and will be used in games this season.

It is unclear if Williams will practice today -- even on a limited basis. He missed the start of practice today. He can begin practicing no later than Monday. He is able to play starting the Nov. 26 game at Pittsburgh and the Dolphins apparently have plans to use him as early as then, but certainly in the season's final five games.

This is good news for the Dolphins because they will be able to evaluated him to determine if they want to keep Williams for 2008 or trade him in the offseason.

Wow, we're on a streak of good news and good decisions.

http://dolphinsindepth.blogspot.com/

 
Just checking in, but I can't seem to find Ricky in my Yahoo League. Have they reinstated him on their roster of available players yet?

 
This might have been said up above or in the article, but anyone else feel that Ricky will get lots of work down the stretch so they can showcase him for a trade? The better he does, the better pick(s) they can get in return. So, both he and Miami benefit if he plays a lot, and plays well.

 
I've only not picked him up in 1 league with tight rosters, but now I have to consider him there too to protect against Chatman.

My whole freaking RB roster is a big "just in case". Time to check on the Travis Henry thread. :nerd:

 
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tick dog said:
This might have been said up above or in the article, but anyone else feel that Ricky will get lots of work down the stretch so they can showcase him for a trade? The better he does, the better pick(s) they can get in return. So, both he and Miami benefit if he plays a lot, and plays well.
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If Ricky does well he may get some extended playing time in order to a) maximize his trade value and also to b) minimize Chatman's FA asking money. All things equal (production-wise), the more Ricky plays the more return MIA gets on both counts.
 
I suspect RBBC in the last month for Miami. They will want to see how Ricky looks but I think they would like to see Chatman a lot too. If Chatman continues to look good they should be more than willing to part with Ricky for a draft pick.

 
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
The_Fonz said:
I picked him up 2 weeks ago in 2 leagues. I feel smart right now. First post.....Hi everyone! :)
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:nerd: why do you feel smart?
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Because I know that everyone in my league is scrambling to see his availability. I snatched up Priest too and was able to trade him for an upgrade at WR. Past trade deadline - Williams may end up being good insurance for my RB situation. All pure speculation....of course.
 
tick dog said:
This might have been said up above or in the article, but anyone else feel that Ricky will get lots of work down the stretch so they can showcase him for a trade? The better he does, the better pick(s) they can get in return. So, both he and Miami benefit if he plays a lot, and plays well.
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I doubt a 30+ year RB has much trade value. Especially one with 4 strikes in the drug program.
 
moondawg said:
tick dog said:
This might have been said up above or in the article, but anyone else feel that Ricky will get lots of work down the stretch so they can showcase him for a trade? The better he does, the better pick(s) they can get in return. So, both he and Miami benefit if he plays a lot, and plays well.
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I doubt a 30+ year RB has much trade value. Especially one with 4 strikes in the drug program.
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Not as much wear and tear in the last 2 years and lets not forget the power of YOGA!
 
I don't see any FF value in him for the rest of the season, even if he gets playing time. I don't think he'll take over the starting job, plus three out of the last five games of the fantasy schedule has MIA vs PIT, BAL, and NE. The other two are NYJ (worst against run) and BUF (below average against run).

 
Rogi said:
I don't see any FF value in him for the rest of the season, even if he gets playing time. I don't think he'll take over the starting job, plus three out of the last five games of the fantasy schedule has MIA vs PIT, BAL, and NE. The other two are NYJ (worst against run) and BUF (below average against run).
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Could mean less value for Chatman...even if it is slight.
 
The Dolphins own his rights through 2008 ( and he's cheap) . . .

Ricky Williams' contract with Miami runs through 2008.

The deal he originally signed would've ended in 2007 with a base salary of $720,000, so there was some confusion about where he stood after being out of the game for one and a half years. The Dolphins will be able to trade him in the offseason if they so choose. It's uncertain whether the some $7 million Williams owes the club could affect its decision to part ways with him.

Source: Palm Beach Post

If they are looking to trade him this ofseason you better believe he'll get some playing time the last 5 games of the season.

 
With Ronnie Brown out, Fins are short on backups to Chatman. Thats all Ricky will be, a backup. Dude is 30 yrs old and hasn't played in 1.5 years. Plus he's a pothead, which means he's not motivated to stay in shape. Good luck with your waiver pick up, I'd rather get Anthony Thomas instead.

 
The_Fonz said:
moondawg said:
tick dog said:
This might have been said up above or in the article, but anyone else feel that Ricky will get lots of work down the stretch so they can showcase him for a trade? The better he does, the better pick(s) they can get in return. So, both he and Miami benefit if he plays a lot, and plays well.
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I doubt a 30+ year RB has much trade value. Especially one with 4 strikes in the drug program.
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Not as much wear and tear in the last 2 years and lets not forget the power of YOGA!
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Full disclosure, I am a Chatman owner. I'm not expecting too much from Ricky. Football shape is much different from being in good physical shape, especially for a running back. If memory serves, he was in great shape for his last comeback, but he suffered a broken bone against a CFL defense. I guess he's worth rostering in a league where you have big rosters, in the same way that its worthwhile to grab Priest Holmes, Correll Buckalter, and Kolby Smith.That said, I'll be watching to see if he eats into Jesse's time in a meaningful way and will adjust my strting lineups accordingly.
 
wickster33 said:
The_Fonz said:
moondawg said:
tick dog said:
This might have been said up above or in the article, but anyone else feel that Ricky will get lots of work down the stretch so they can showcase him for a trade? The better he does, the better pick(s) they can get in return. So, both he and Miami benefit if he plays a lot, and plays well.
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I doubt a 30+ year RB has much trade value. Especially one with 4 strikes in the drug program.
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Not as much wear and tear in the last 2 years and lets not forget the power of YOGA!
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Full disclosure, I am a Chatman owner. I'm not expecting too much from Ricky. Football shape is much different from being in good physical shape, especially for a running back. If memory serves, he was in great shape for his last comeback, but he suffered a broken bone against a CFL defense. I guess he's worth rostering in a league where you have big rosters, in the same way that its worthwhile to grab Priest Holmes, Correll Buckalter, and Kolby Smith.That said, I'll be watching to see if he eats into Jesse's time in a meaningful way and will adjust my strting lineups accordingly.
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I'm guessing the Dolphins intend to trade him for something this offseason. If that is the case you better believe they'll showcase him and he will play.The value of Jesse Chatman is dropping by the second.
 
footballnerd said:
With Ronnie Brown out, Fins are short on backups to Chatman. Thats all Ricky will be, a backup. Dude is 30 yrs old and hasn't played in 1.5 years. Plus he's a pothead, which means he's not motivated to stay in shape. Good luck with your waiver pick up, I'd rather get Anthony Thomas instead.
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He's been tested constantly for 2 years now. If he was still smoking he wouldn't be back and the fact that he’s stopped smoking shows he's motivated. His age and time away could very well make him useless but he didn't have to deal with all the drug tests and years away if he didn't want to play ball so I think unmotivated is inaccurate.
 
Giants4Life said:
Warhogs said:
Giants4Life said:
He will definitely split with Chapman. Chapman is not that good. He is just the best they have at the moment.
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Your evaluation of Chatman might hold more weight if you knew his name was Chatman and not Chapman. :)
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I didnt know this was a spelling bee here.
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Relax. I was just having fun. I do question what your knowledge base is to state that they will definately split time and that Chatman is not that good. I guess splitting time can mean from a 20:1 carry ratio to a 50:50 split. I think Chatman is pretty good. He looked really good in the preseason. Frankly, I feel they will be a full blown RBBC leaving neither as more than a backup option for fantasy football. I don't think Miami will showcase him in hopes of driving his value up because nobody is going to give up much for a 4 time offender. More likely they want to evaluate if they think Williams and Booker are enough behind Brown so they can determine how badly they need Chatman to return.
 
kevinray said:
footballnerd said:
With Ronnie Brown out, Fins are short on backups to Chatman. Thats all Ricky will be, a backup. Dude is 30 yrs old and hasn't played in 1.5 years. Plus he's a pothead, which means he's not motivated to stay in shape. Good luck with your waiver pick up, I'd rather get Anthony Thomas instead.
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He's been tested constantly for 2 years now. If he was still smoking he wouldn't be back and the fact that he’s stopped smoking shows he's motivated. His age and time away could very well make him useless but he didn't have to deal with all the drug tests and years away if he didn't want to play ball so I think unmotivated is inaccurate.
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He's got to fund the habit and his new technology to fake drug tests some how! Ya, my opinion is definitely inaccurate. But he's still 30, coming off a broken leg, and hasn't played in 1.5 years. Doubt he can put in 20 carries per game or anything worth risking a fantasy start on.
 
footballnerd said:
kevinray said:
footballnerd said:
With Ronnie Brown out, Fins are short on backups to Chatman. Thats all Ricky will be, a backup. Dude is 30 yrs old and hasn't played in 1.5 years. Plus he's a pothead, which means he's not motivated to stay in shape. Good luck with your waiver pick up, I'd rather get Anthony Thomas instead.
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He's been tested constantly for 2 years now. If he was still smoking he wouldn't be back and the fact that he’s stopped smoking shows he's motivated. His age and time away could very well make him useless but he didn't have to deal with all the drug tests and years away if he didn't want to play ball so I think unmotivated is inaccurate.
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He's got to fund the habit and his new technology to fake drug tests some how! Ya, my opinion is definitely inaccurate. But he's still 30, coming off a broken leg arm, and hasn't played in 1.5 years. Doubt he can put in 20 carries per game or anything worth risking a fantasy start on.
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Another highly informed opinion.
 
Cookiemonster said:
footballnerd said:
kevinray said:
footballnerd said:
With Ronnie Brown out, Fins are short on backups to Chatman. Thats all Ricky will be, a backup. Dude is 30 yrs old and hasn't played in 1.5 years. Plus he's a pothead, which means he's not motivated to stay in shape. Good luck with your waiver pick up, I'd rather get Anthony Thomas instead.
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He's been tested constantly for 2 years now. If he was still smoking he wouldn't be back and the fact that he’s stopped smoking shows he's motivated. His age and time away could very well make him useless but he didn't have to deal with all the drug tests and years away if he didn't want to play ball so I think unmotivated is inaccurate.
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He's got to fund the habit and his new technology to fake drug tests some how! Ya, my opinion is definitely inaccurate. But he's still 30, coming off a broken leg arm, and hasn't played in 1.5 years. Doubt he can put in 20 carries per game or anything worth risking a fantasy start on.
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Another highly informed opinion.
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;)
 
Cookiemonster said:
footballnerd said:
kevinray said:
footballnerd said:
With Ronnie Brown out, Fins are short on backups to Chatman. Thats all Ricky will be, a backup. Dude is 30 yrs old and hasn't played in 1.5 years. Plus he's a pothead, which means he's not motivated to stay in shape. Good luck with your waiver pick up, I'd rather get Anthony Thomas instead.
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He's been tested constantly for 2 years now. If he was still smoking he wouldn't be back and the fact that he’s stopped smoking shows he's motivated. His age and time away could very well make him useless but he didn't have to deal with all the drug tests and years away if he didn't want to play ball so I think unmotivated is inaccurate.
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He's got to fund the habit and his new technology to fake drug tests some how! Ya, my opinion is definitely inaccurate. But he's still 30, coming off a broken leg arm, and hasn't played in 1.5 years. Doubt he can put in 20 carries per game or anything worth risking a fantasy start on.
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Another highly informed opinion.
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Nice catch. Go ahead, pick him up.
 
kevinray said:
footballnerd said:
With Ronnie Brown out, Fins are short on backups to Chatman. Thats all Ricky will be, a backup. Dude is 30 yrs old and hasn't played in 1.5 years. Plus he's a pothead, which means he's not motivated to stay in shape. Good luck with your waiver pick up, I'd rather get Anthony Thomas instead.
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He's been tested constantly for 2 years now. If he was still smoking he wouldn't be back and the fact that he’s stopped smoking shows he's motivated. His age and time away could very well make him useless but he didn't have to deal with all the drug tests and years away if he didn't want to play ball so I think unmotivated is inaccurate.
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Actually he just tested positive in April which is why his suspension was extended.That being said, my gut tells me that the Phins have nothing to play for, their star RB in IR, and a dude who has been a team distraction for the last four years, I expect them to put him out there to take the beating the rest of the way (after week 12 obviously) and see if they can possibly get something for him in the offseason. If they cut him I don't think they can make good on their suit to reclaim his signing bonus so getting something for him should be a factor in the interests of the franchise.
 
footballnerd said:
Cookiemonster said:
footballnerd said:
kevinray said:
footballnerd said:
With Ronnie Brown out, Fins are short on backups to Chatman. Thats all Ricky will be, a backup. Dude is 30 yrs old and hasn't played in 1.5 years. Plus he's a pothead, which means he's not motivated to stay in shape. Good luck with your waiver pick up, I'd rather get Anthony Thomas instead.
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He's been tested constantly for 2 years now. If he was still smoking he wouldn't be back and the fact that he’s stopped smoking shows he's motivated. His age and time away could very well make him useless but he didn't have to deal with all the drug tests and years away if he didn't want to play ball so I think unmotivated is inaccurate.
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He's got to fund the habit and his new technology to fake drug tests some how! Ya, my opinion is definitely inaccurate. But he's still 30, coming off a broken leg arm, and hasn't played in 1.5 years. Doubt he can put in 20 carries per game or anything worth risking a fantasy start on.
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Another highly informed opinion.
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Nice catch. Go ahead, pick him up.
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Already got him. Insert a rookie QB. 'Phins can't throw anyways. Beat up the 30 year-old that you have bad feelings for and protect your rookie investment. Miami line has improved the run blocking tremendously (see Ronnie's turnaround) and won't feel bad about giving Ricky 30 carries a game.
 
While improving the Dolphins in the long term obviously has to be important to the team (e.g. increasing Ricky's trade value, seeing if Beck is the answer at QB etc.), if I were in the Dolphins organization, I'd take a step back from looking at the long term and put all my efforts into winning a game. Specifically, the Jets game. Nobody wants to be the first team ever to go 0-16, so I'd be preparing for the Jets game as if it were the Super Bowl (including resting some dinged up players over the next two weeks).

 
moondawg said:
tick dog said:
This might have been said up above or in the article, but anyone else feel that Ricky will get lots of work down the stretch so they can showcase him for a trade? The better he does, the better pick(s) they can get in return. So, both he and Miami benefit if he plays a lot, and plays well.
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I doubt a 30+ year RB has much trade value. Especially one with 4 strikes in the drug program.
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With so many RB's dropping like flies, he has one thing a lot don't despite his age: health. And let's not forget that his "sabbatical" reduced a little wear and tear the last year or so.
 
Cookiemonster said:
footballnerd said:
Cookiemonster said:
footballnerd said:
kevinray said:
footballnerd said:
With Ronnie Brown out, Fins are short on backups to Chatman. Thats all Ricky will be, a backup. Dude is 30 yrs old and hasn't played in 1.5 years. Plus he's a pothead, which means he's not motivated to stay in shape. Good luck with your waiver pick up, I'd rather get Anthony Thomas instead.
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He's been tested constantly for 2 years now. If he was still smoking he wouldn't be back and the fact that he’s stopped smoking shows he's motivated. His age and time away could very well make him useless but he didn't have to deal with all the drug tests and years away if he didn't want to play ball so I think unmotivated is inaccurate.
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He's got to fund the habit and his new technology to fake drug tests some how! Ya, my opinion is definitely inaccurate. But he's still 30, coming off a broken leg arm, and hasn't played in 1.5 years. Doubt he can put in 20 carries per game or anything worth risking a fantasy start on.
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Another highly informed opinion.
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Nice catch. Go ahead, pick him up.
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Already got him. Insert a rookie QB. 'Phins can't throw anyways. Beat up the 30 year-old that you have bad feelings for and protect your rookie investment. Miami line has improved the run blocking tremendously (see Ronnie's turnaround) and won't feel bad about giving Ricky 30 carries a game.
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Could work. So the very effective Chatman doesn't get 20 of those 30 carries? Making Williams worth starting over your other Fantasy RBs? I doubt they bench Chatman for the season in hopes of saving him for next year, since he's also a back up....
 
With a RB roster limit of 4 in my keeper league, I have a decision to make for the stretch run or off-season. Lamont Jordan is now my 4th RB and looks like he will be wasting a roster spot for me. I am considering picking up a RB as insurance for my playoffs like Dunn who was dropped, or to pick up Ricky and hope he plays well enough to trade him for a pick (of any kind) in the offseason. I don't have much to lose with my RB4 anyway (probably woon't play him whoever he is)so I'm leaning toward taking a flier on Ricky.

 
JHicks22 said:
I think he has dynasty value. If nothing else you almost have to take a flyer on him. Potential alone.
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In 05 he was the #8 RB the last 6 weeks of the season with Brown in there part of the time. A good fantasy playoff player.
 
footballnerd said:
kevinray said:
footballnerd said:
With Ronnie Brown out, Fins are short on backups to Chatman. Thats all Ricky will be, a backup. Dude is 30 yrs old and hasn't played in 1.5 years. Plus he's a pothead, which means he's not motivated to stay in shape. Good luck with your waiver pick up, I'd rather get Anthony Thomas instead.
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He's been tested constantly for 2 years now. If he was still smoking he wouldn't be back and the fact that he’s stopped smoking shows he's motivated. His age and time away could very well make him useless but he didn't have to deal with all the drug tests and years away if he didn't want to play ball so I think unmotivated is inaccurate.
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He's got to fund the habit and his new technology to fake drug tests some how! Ya, my opinion is definitely inaccurate. But he's still 30, coming off a broken leg, and hasn't played in 1.5 years. Doubt he can put in 20 carries per game or anything worth risking a fantasy start on.
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Pure opinion. Why do haters come in here and spout crap. It will take him 2-3 games to get back in shape like he did last time, but he could be a valuable Fantasy playoff performer. He stays in good but not football shape.

How many waiver wire players can be top 10? He was top 5 in 05.

 
footballnerd said:
With Ronnie Brown out, Fins are short on backups to Chatman. Thats all Ricky will be, a backup. Dude is 30 yrs old and hasn't played in 1.5 years. Plus he's a pothead, which means he's not motivated to stay in shape. Good luck with your waiver pick up, I'd rather get Anthony Thomas instead.
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That's just not true. He's always been motivated to stay in shape before and after he started getting into trouble. His diet used to be determined by havng his blood analyzed weekly as well as other intricate and holistic eating habits. Yoga won't put you in game shape, but it is extremely strenuous and effective. And he's deep, deep into it going well beyond soccer mom yoga, as well as the mental discipline acquired from studying it as deeply as he has. Plus his time in the CFL he was obvioulsy still in game shape. Don't compare his potheadedness to the local mall stoners. Physical fitness has always been an obsession for him all the way down to his blood. I'm not saying he's worth a spot or not, but you're way off the mark on that statement. His desire and motivations to play may be in question (purely monetary), but not his physical and mental discipline towards his body.
 
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