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[otb_lifer]

The Liverbirds

 damn YouToobz rabbit hole dragged me to these ladies, and their bittersweet saga. great stuff 

there may be some embellishing up in there, but ...

Lennon saying "girls don't play guitars" and that they'd "never make it" - totally believable.  even us most ardent John lovers gotta allow that he had a misogynistic (if not misanthropic) bent, and was gifted with a most acidic Irish/'pudlian tongue ... and be certain that John was definitely not alone in that thought. 

rolling joints for Jimi in Hamburg - plausible, no  doubt. 

the bit about hitting America, but only via playing topless in Vegas?  yep, buncha ####ed up miscreants in that scene (still are).

checked some of the tunes, pretty cool stuff ... i still contend that Punk was birthed by the Beatles in Hamburg, and these birds followed suit ... @rockaction - tell me these gals weren't more punk than the Slits or the Go-Gos, especially given the logistics of their origins. 

for as steeped in the whole British Invasion as i was, particularly Merseybeat, this was the first i ever heard of them ... oversight on my part? or continued sexism in the retelling of those days?

either way, i enjoyed learning about the Birds very much ... cool story. 

why a flick or miniseries hasn't been broached yet is beyond me 

 

[rockaction]

Will watch, my friend. 

 

[rockaction]

I'm eight minutes in. I knew it would be Pam. See that scowl? Nah, sure they're punk. They might even fall under Lanny Kaye's definition, you know?

The only question is whether they were formed for commodity's sake -- a lot gets whitewashed in these sort of hagiographies.

As to the bands you cite as an example, we know the Go-Go's were punks before they formed. Scenester Dottie Danger is Belinda Carlisle, etc. And the Go-Go's certainly weren't helped by the oldster moguls that ran the L.A. music industry at the time. They had it pretty rough.

The Slits I was always pretty unaware of other than for their notorious covers.

But yeah, cool doc. Lennon was quite not the egalitarian. Perhaps personal growth was at play there for he sure played a fool for Yoko's strident (for the time) feminism.

Billy Childish took this model and brought it to America in the mid-90s with Thee Headcoatees and a few others. There were brother and sister bands in the Bay Area. One's spawn...is Kreyshawn.

That's all I got off the top of my head. Back to the video...

 

[otb_lifer]

RA -

huh ... interesting point on "commodity for novelties sake" ... i hadn't pondered that angle - though one might surmise that they eschewed that avenue when Epstein put the kibosh on Hamburg ... rather than staying Merseyside and becoming formulaic, they chose the seedier trappings of their 'pudlian brothers.

no doubt the GoGos cut their teef in settings that belied the top 40 stylings of the meat of their career ... just saying the ethos, for 1962, was greater for the Birds, whether or not anyone had coined the genre. 

Lenny Kaye's Nuggets - mighta been a great stepping stone to unearth these gals, agreed. 

 

[rockaction]

Just finished. Very sentimental, actually. Sort of the inevitable aging of what couldn't have been.

 

[wikkidpissah]

That may be the best youtube clip i've ever seen. If i knew about the Liverbirds, i don't remember them.

Could only happen like that in Liverpool. ANYTHING seemed like a good idea in Liverpool in the 60s. What a mess!

As i've recounted on these pages before, me Ma was born in the Bootle section of Liverpool. She was the lovechild of two Dublin teenagers. In the 1920s, the boy could go to jail and the girl locked in a convent for the rest of her life for that so me Granda - a dockworker in Dun Laoghaire - married his Florrie str8away and they hopped the Sea of Ireland for Liverpool where they lived til me Ma was born and grew to an indeterminable size by which they could claim a birthdate for her which lined up with their wedding date (Ma didn't know her b'day was in August instead of the celebrated November until she applied for a passport as an adult - she chose to continue to celebrate it in Nov though, now, in her 90s, she gets both).

When the relative who sponsored our family over to America died in the mid-60s, she left a trust for me which paid for me to spend at least two weeks each summer of my minority in Dublin. My parents decided to go with me the first time and, during that trip, we hopped the ferry to Liverpool to see me Ma's birthplace. It had been 25 years since the city had been bombed out, but you would have thought it was last week. Mile upon mile of caved-in buildings & houses without a finger being liifted by anyone but scavengers to do anything about it. That & the soot & the stink - bleakest city i ever seen.

That's what gave the Mersey beat its charm - the unlikeliness of it. RA's right on the Liverrbirds - same MO as punk, tho different motivation. Just "oh, we want to do that! i'll become a nun later....". and the drummer running "mummadaddymummadaddymummadaddymummadaddy" thru her head as she sipped her tea. Mary holding her bass like a baby that needed changing. Peanut Butter, crossing themselves passing strip clubs to play Hamburg gigs - what a blast!!!!

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[otb_lifer]

@wikkidpissah



amazing prose ... made me rewatch, again.  

ty

 

[wikkidpissah]

@wikkidpissah



amazing prose ... made me rewatch, again.  

ty

that will be a rainyday clip for me for years to come....

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Fantastic.  Thanks for posting that.

 

[El Floppo]

Be they white be they yellow be they black dot

 

[otb_lifer]

Fantastic.  Thanks for posting that.

yvw ... still try'na wrap my head around never having heard of them. 

but now i'm very glad i finally did.