Rodney Harrison voted NFL dirtiest player (1 Viewer)

[redman]

Rampant speculation is fun!

Speculation that pro-athletes talk to other pro-athletes about other things happening on the field which then materially influences how they vote in polls such as this one to such a degree as to generally affect the outcome of the poll?

See, it's fun isn't it? I'm having fun.

 

[Warehouse Nasty]

BS from SI.Who'da thunk?

You mean BS from the players?

If the players honestly believe John Lynch is the eighth most dirty player in the league, then yes. Maybe I haven't watched closely enough but he doesn't stand out as a dirty player to me at all. Do you think he's the eighth most diry player in the league?

Call me crazy, but I'd think that players who played against him might be just a little more qualified to judge than innernet message board geeks.

My favorite.The "Well, if Matt Millen wasn't smarter than the rest of us he wouldn't have the job!" response.Well done.

Actually, those 2 situations are not alike at all.

 

[Da Guru]

Harrison never saw an unprotected knee he didnt like.

Kind of ironic that he got his knee tore up last year, huh?

Live by the sword..die by the sword.

 

[ChampBailey24]

Harrison never saw an unprotected knee he didnt like.

Kind of ironic that he got his knee tore up last year, huh?

That was beautiful, beautiful karma.

I hate to wish injury to any player but Harrison takes shots at knees when other options are available and likely to be more effective. The guy tries to hurt other players.

He's not alone. I don't know for NFL players but our coaches always tell us to hit and hurt the other team, has to be the same in the NFL.

Your coach told you to go for another players knees and joints?There is a big difference between playing tough and trying to hurt someone.

yeah...they told us places to target when we hit.

Your high school coach should be fired and, possibly, arrested.

Welcome to football. And BTW, we don't hurt our opponents on every play, but if a pass is thrown too high, we'll make sure he doesn't forget it and hopefully he won't get back up.

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

Harrison never saw an unprotected knee he didnt like.

Kind of ironic that he got his knee tore up last year, huh?

That was beautiful, beautiful karma.

I hate to wish injury to any player but Harrison takes shots at knees when other options are available and likely to be more effective. The guy tries to hurt other players.

He's not alone. I don't know for NFL players but our coaches always tell us to hit and hurt the other team, has to be the same in the NFL.

Your coach told you to go for another players knees and joints?There is a big difference between playing tough and trying to hurt someone.

yeah...they told us places to target when we hit.

Your high school coach should be fired and, possibly, arrested.

Welcome to football. And BTW, we don't hurt our opponents on every play, but if a pass is thrown too high, we'll make sure he doesn't forget it and hopefully he won't get back up.

You sir, are a piece of schit... Football is a game, humanity is not.

 

[JuniorNB]

Harrison never saw an unprotected knee he didnt like.

Kind of ironic that he got his knee tore up last year, huh?

That was beautiful, beautiful karma.

I hate to wish injury to any player but Harrison takes shots at knees when other options are available and likely to be more effective. The guy tries to hurt other players.

He's not alone. I don't know for NFL players but our coaches always tell us to hit and hurt the other team, has to be the same in the NFL.

Your coach told you to go for another players knees and joints?There is a big difference between playing tough and trying to hurt someone.

yeah...they told us places to target when we hit.

Your high school coach should be fired and, possibly, arrested.

Welcome to football. And BTW, we don't hurt our opponents on every play, but if a pass is thrown too high, we'll make sure he doesn't forget it and hopefully he won't get back up.

I don't need to be welcomed to football. I played tons of it. I can also say that I never once hit a guy hoping that he didn't get up. Your coach was an idiot for preaching that, and you were more of an idiot for buying into it.

 

[ChampBailey24]

Harrison never saw an unprotected knee he didnt like.

Kind of ironic that he got his knee tore up last year, huh?

That was beautiful, beautiful karma.

I hate to wish injury to any player but Harrison takes shots at knees when other options are available and likely to be more effective. The guy tries to hurt other players.

He's not alone. I don't know for NFL players but our coaches always tell us to hit and hurt the other team, has to be the same in the NFL.

Your coach told you to go for another players knees and joints?There is a big difference between playing tough and trying to hurt someone.

yeah...they told us places to target when we hit.

Your high school coach should be fired and, possibly, arrested.

Welcome to football. And BTW, we don't hurt our opponents on every play, but if a pass is thrown too high, we'll make sure he doesn't forget it and hopefully he won't get back up.

I don't need to be welcomed to football. I played tons of it. I can also say that I never once hit a guy hoping that he didn't get up. Your coach was an idiot for preaching that, and you were more of an idiot for buying into it.

I'm not a dirty player...I hit as hard as I can but I don't aim for the knees, neither do I punch the nuts or whatever....but hey...this is how football is played. Last week we had 4 of our players get hurt (knees) so this is a common thing in the league.

 

[ChampBailey24]

Harrison never saw an unprotected knee he didnt like.

Kind of ironic that he got his knee tore up last year, huh?

That was beautiful, beautiful karma.

I hate to wish injury to any player but Harrison takes shots at knees when other options are available and likely to be more effective. The guy tries to hurt other players.

He's not alone. I don't know for NFL players but our coaches always tell us to hit and hurt the other team, has to be the same in the NFL.

Your coach told you to go for another players knees and joints?There is a big difference between playing tough and trying to hurt someone.

yeah...they told us places to target when we hit.

Your high school coach should be fired and, possibly, arrested.

Welcome to football. And BTW, we don't hurt our opponents on every play, but if a pass is thrown too high, we'll make sure he doesn't forget it and hopefully he won't get back up.

You sir, are a piece of schit... Football is a game, humanity is not.

I've had a lot of injuries already but I know that's part of the sport so I don't have a problem with that. Same should apply for my opponents.

 

[Borat]

Terrible comparison.

How so? There are people that will stand up and say "You can't criticize what someone in the NFL does/says because they are in the league and know more than we do". Seems ridiculous to me but people do it every season. Aren't the players in the NFL because they are great at PLAYING the game, it has nothing to do with their ability to evaluate other players.

It's not rocket science, it's fairly plain to see, those on the field have a better view, and players talk to one another - for these reasons, I just feel that the players themselves are a lot more qualified to answer these questions than you or I.

But if it's not rocket science and fairly plaine to see then why would being an NFL player have an advantage in making the decision? Completely disagree with players having a better view of the field while the play is going on. Have you ever stood on the sidelines of a football game(or played for that matter)? You see much less of the field than most spectators. The truth is the players and the fans see every play replayed to them ad-nauseum and I think this is a contributing factor in this instance because everyone remembers the Trent Green injury in STL. Plays like that happen all the time, Trent Green just happened to get injured on that particular play. I agree that the players talk to one another, and do in fact base much of their opinion on nothing more than what another teamate has told them but haven't actually seen happen themselves. Opinoins based on second-hand anecdotal evidence certainly aren't above criticism to be sure.

Because the players see the game from every angle that we do as fans. And then they also see it up close, on the field. And then they see it a hundred times over in the film room. And they also talk to their peers.I'm sorry, but generally speaking, NFL players just see more of the game from more different angles than we do as fans. So there you go.

 

[BoltBacker]

Terrible comparison.

How so? There are people that will stand up and say "You can't criticize what someone in the NFL does/says because they are in the league and know more than we do". Seems ridiculous to me but people do it every season. Aren't the players in the NFL because they are great at PLAYING the game, it has nothing to do with their ability to evaluate other players.

It's not rocket science, it's fairly plain to see, those on the field have a better view, and players talk to one another - for these reasons, I just feel that the players themselves are a lot more qualified to answer these questions than you or I.

But if it's not rocket science and fairly plaine to see then why would being an NFL player have an advantage in making the decision? Completely disagree with players having a better view of the field while the play is going on. Have you ever stood on the sidelines of a football game(or played for that matter)? You see much less of the field than most spectators. The truth is the players and the fans see every play replayed to them ad-nauseum and I think this is a contributing factor in this instance because everyone remembers the Trent Green injury in STL. Plays like that happen all the time, Trent Green just happened to get injured on that particular play. I agree that the players talk to one another, and do in fact base much of their opinion on nothing more than what another teamate has told them but haven't actually seen happen themselves. Opinoins based on second-hand anecdotal evidence certainly aren't above criticism to be sure.

Because the players see the game from every angle that we do as fans. And then they also see it up close, on the field. And then they see it a hundred times over in the film room. And they also talk to their peers.I'm sorry, but generally speaking, NFL players just see more of the game from more different angles than we do as fans. So there you go.

Can't the same be said for Matt Millen? Isn't he privy to conversations with his peers? Doesn't he have all the same information that we do and more when deciding whether or not to draft Mike Williams? I'll assume he's had more opportunities to meet and evaluate players than we do as fans. So we as fans can't criticize Matt Millen drafting Mike Williams?

 

[Phlash]

Every Pats fan will admit that Rodney is a cheap shotting *******. I remember when Reche Caldwell got nailed in a helmet to helmet hit, and everyone at the stadium was flipping out on the guy, like two series later Rodney just ATTACKS some poor Bengals players knees, I was like ":( Rodney why..."

 

[perry147]

Harrison never saw an unprotected knee he didnt like.

Kind of ironic that he got his knee tore up last year, huh?

That was beautiful, beautiful karma.

I hate to wish injury to any player but Harrison takes shots at knees when other options are available and likely to be more effective. The guy tries to hurt other players.

He's not alone. I don't know for NFL players but our coaches always tell us to hit and hurt the other team, has to be the same in the NFL.

Your coach told you to go for another players knees and joints?There is a big difference between playing tough and trying to hurt someone.

yeah...they told us places to target when we hit.

Your high school coach should be fired and, possibly, arrested.

Welcome to football. And BTW, we don't hurt our opponents on every play, but if a pass is thrown too high, we'll make sure he doesn't forget it and hopefully he won't get back up.

I have always found that the weakest player play dirty because it is the only way the can compete. If your high school coach taught you to hurt other player he needs to be fired. Period.

Your high school must but have sucked and your coach also.

 

[cantrell]

As bad as Rodney is, he is nothing compared to Romanowski. I hated that guy with a passion.

 

[JuniorNB]

Harrison never saw an unprotected knee he didnt like.

Kind of ironic that he got his knee tore up last year, huh?

That was beautiful, beautiful karma.

I hate to wish injury to any player but Harrison takes shots at knees when other options are available and likely to be more effective. The guy tries to hurt other players.

He's not alone. I don't know for NFL players but our coaches always tell us to hit and hurt the other team, has to be the same in the NFL.

Your coach told you to go for another players knees and joints?

There is a big difference between playing tough and trying to hurt someone.

yeah...they told us places to target when we hit.

Your high school coach should be fired and, possibly, arrested.

Welcome to football. And BTW, we don't hurt our opponents on every play, but if a pass is thrown too high, we'll make sure he doesn't forget it and hopefully he won't get back up.

You sir, are a piece of schit... Football is a game, humanity is not.

I've had a lot of injuries already but I know that's part of the sport so I don't have a problem with that. Same should apply for my opponents.

You should stop now. You sound like a complete moron.

itsatip

 

[Workhorse]

What's interesting about this poll is that it took place in the preseason, coming off of 2005, when Rodney Harrison didn't even play.

His reputation preceeds him as a "dirty player".

As a Pats fan, I'm glad he's on my team rather than facing my team. He still goes for the knees and won't hesitate for a head shot on a WR crossing the middle. In today's NFL, that's considered dirty. 20 years ago, that was considered tough football.

 

[JuniorNB]

What's interesting about this poll is that it took place in the preseason, coming off of 2005, when Rodney Harrison didn't even play.His reputation preceeds him as a "dirty player". As a Pats fan, I'm glad he's on my team rather than facing my team. He still goes for the knees and won't hesitate for a head shot on a WR crossing the middle. In today's NFL, that's considered dirty. 20 years ago, that was considered tough football.

The head part, maybe, but the knees were always considered cheap shots.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Harrison never saw an unprotected knee he didnt like.

Kind of ironic that he got his knee tore up last year, huh?

That was beautiful, beautiful karma.

So what were the two rings that he's won over the past three seasons?Badmouth Rodney for being a dirty player all you want, but he's in the same category as Joey Porter: guys who opposing fans might hate, but you'd love to have him on your side and you'd take him in a heartbeat. And your team would be a lot better off because of it.

Brady voted for himself.

He wanted to lose some of the "goody two shoes super all american" sheen that he has gathered.

That may be Brady's reputation among housewives and teenyboppers, but in the NFL, Brady has the respect of every player on the field, as a tough player, as a competitor, and of course as a winner.

While I've seen Porter give a cheap shot or two over the years, I don't think Ward deserves to be on this list. The guy just goes hard EVERY play. I think that just irritates some DBs and they don't like him because of it.

Is this really what you think? Why is it that of all the WRs who go hard on every play, Ward is the only one to make this list? Please don't tell me it's because he is good at blocking. Ward is of course an exceptional blocking WR, but he's hardly the only WR in the league who goes hard on every play and is a good blocker.

So why is Ward the only one to make this list (and I'm almost positive that this isn't his first time making this list)?

He probably got votes from DBs that don't like that fact that he's looking to lay them out when he's coming across the middle and the ball goes elsewhere. Same reason Lynch is undeservedly on this list, because he hits big.

 

[redman]

What's interesting about this poll is that it took place in the preseason, coming off of 2005, when Rodney Harrison didn't even play.His reputation preceeds him as a "dirty player". As a Pats fan, I'm glad he's on my team rather than facing my team. He still goes for the knees and won't hesitate for a head shot on a WR crossing the middle. In today's NFL, that's considered dirty. 20 years ago, that was considered tough football.

The head part, maybe, but the knees were always considered cheap shots.

Andre Waters would be a perfect example from that era that caught lots of flak for going for players' knees. If anything, I'd have to say that knee shots are probably more accepted nowadays given that knee injuries don't tend to be career ending like they were in years past, before medicine made so many huge strides forward in knee reconstruction. No, that's not based upon anything other than that it's now a less severe injury, but still.

 

[Pedro Cerrano Fan]

Welcome to football. And BTW, we don't hurt our opponents on every play, but if a pass is thrown too high, we'll make sure he doesn't forget it and hopefully he won't get back up.

This attitude of yours is exactly why your coach should be fired and not coach elsewhere. Desensitizing children to unsportsmanlike behaviour to the point where attempting to seriouly injure others is not football.Knocking a guys block off? Hitting as hard as you can? Sure. Trying to hure someone by going for joints, etc? Not football.No one needs a welcome to football here. I'd wager 80% of everyone here has playing HS ball, with plenty of others playing in college in some form.

 

[JuniorNB]

Welcome to football. And BTW, we don't hurt our opponents on every play, but if a pass is thrown too high, we'll make sure he doesn't forget it and hopefully he won't get back up.

This attitude of yours is exactly why your coach should be fired and not coach elsewhere. Desensitizing children to unsportsmanlike behaviour to the point where attempting to seriouly injure others is not football.Knocking a guys block off? Hitting as hard as you can? Sure. Trying to hure someone by going for joints, etc? Not football.

No one needs a welcome to football here. I'd wager 80% of everyone here has playing HS ball, with plenty of others playing in college in some form.

I found that funny, too. Welcome to football. And to brag about being a big hitter and have Champ Bailey as your membername and avatar.

I'm sure it's just a fishing trip. If there really is a player/coach who believes that you should try to injure opponents, I'm pretty sure they have enough sense not to ever mention it.

 

[ren hoek]

Hines Ward is a punk. He kicked Caleb Miller while laying on his back after a play was over.

However, I don't think he belongs on this list. Every cocky, iconic player is likely to be resented by other teams and voted for in polls like this. While there may be some substance to the list, it's important to remember that a lot of it might just be politics too.

 

[Bossman]

Harrison is the man.

 

[JuniorNB]

Harrison is the man.

Yes, he is. Number one on the list, in fact.

 

[Rogi]

Warren Sapp definitely deserves his spot on the list. I still remember when he blindsided Chad Clifton.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/columns/pasquarelli_len/1465999.html

 

[Cunk]

I am just glad that Tom Brady is being exposed for the dirty player he is. It's too bad the NFL isn't cracking down harder on his antics.(just in case its not clear)

Who the hell voted for Brady?