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[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Steelers | Ben Roethlisberger questionable this week

Tue, 13 Nov 2012 09:49:24 -0800

Updating previous reports, Pittsburgh Steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger (shoulder) was diagnosed with a sternoclavicular shoulder sprain and will be questionable for Week 11 against the Baltimore Ravens, according to head coach Mike Tomlin.

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[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Fwiw Bramel has been doing serious work on this

http://bramelsecondopinion.com/2012/11/13/on-ben-roethlisbergers-shoulder-injury/#respond

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Strongly suggests low grade sprain. RT @realfreemancbs Steelers officials telling me privately Big Ben will likely be back next wk. 49 minutes agoHowever, could be reason for concern should Roethlisberger try to throw too soon, alter his motion and stress rotator cuff injury. 50 minutes agoRoethlisberger's SC joint sprain dx likely means there's been no additional damage to rotator cuff. This is more of chest inj than shoulder. 51 minutes agoCannot see Roethlisberger playing w/ SC sprain (even if low grade) this week. Very difficult to support this injury through throwing motion. 56 minutes ago

All Bramel tweets

 

[phatrat]

Worth holding on to? I know he's a tough dude, but sounds like he is going to be out a few weeks and a few weeks = playoffs.

 

[Bayhawks]

Strongly suggests low grade sprain. RT @realfreemancbs Steelers officials telling me privately Big Ben will likely be back next wk. 49 minutes agoHowever, could be reason for concern should Roethlisberger try to throw too soon, alter his motion and stress rotator cuff injury. 50 minutes agoRoethlisberger's SC joint sprain dx likely means there's been no additional damage to rotator cuff. This is more of chest inj than shoulder. 51 minutes agoCannot see Roethlisberger playing w/ SC sprain (even if low grade) this week. Very difficult to support this injury through throwing motion. 56 minutes ago

All Bramel tweets

In the most recent tweet, do they mean week 12 when they say "next week?" Because otherwise, that would contradict the tweet from 56 minutes ago, where it says he cannot see Roethlisberger playing w/SC sprain this week.

 

[Bayhawks]

Worth holding on to? I know he's a tough dude, but sounds like he is going to be out a few weeks and a few weeks = playoffs.

We're in week 11. The post before yours included a series of tweets that indicates Steeler officials expect Ben to play "next week." Don't FF playoffs usually start in week 14 or 15?

 

[Jene Bramel]

Strongly suggests low grade sprain. RT @realfreemancbs Steelers officials telling me privately Big Ben will likely be back next wk. 49 minutes ago

However, could be reason for concern should Roethlisberger try to throw too soon, alter his motion and stress rotator cuff injury. 50 minutes ago

Roethlisberger's SC joint sprain dx likely means there's been no additional damage to rotator cuff. This is more of chest inj than shoulder. 51 minutes ago

Cannot see Roethlisberger playing w/ SC sprain (even if low grade) this week. Very difficult to support this injury through throwing motion. 56 minutes ago

All Bramel tweets

In the most recent tweet, do they mean week 12 when they say "next week?" Because otherwise, that would contradict the tweet from 56 minutes ago, where it says he cannot see Roethlisberger playing w/SC sprain this week.

Mike Freeman tweeted that he has a source saying Roethlisberger could play in Week 12. I tweeted that to my followers with a note that a quick return like that would suggest a low grade injury. However, if Roethlisberger does return to play within 2 weeks of this injury, it'd be on par with his speedy recoveries from high ankle sprains, thumb fractures and jaw fractures in the past. It's a very optimistic expectation for a quarterback who will stress this joint with every overhead throwing motion.I updated this morning's blog post with reaction to Tomlin's press conference a little while ago. It may be a little easier to read than my Twitter timeline.

 

[Cookiemonster]

Worth holding on to? I know he's a tough dude, but sounds like he is going to be out a few weeks and a few weeks = playoffs.

We're in week 11. The post before yours included a series of tweets that indicates Steeler officials expect Ben to play "next week." Don't FF playoffs usually start in week 14 or 15?

I think he's referring to the Steelers' chance at the playoffs. 2 of their next 3 games are vs Baltimore, who they already trail by 1 game in the division.

 

[fred_1_15301]

Worth holding on to? I know he's a tough dude, but sounds like he is going to be out a few weeks and a few weeks = playoffs.

We're in week 11. The post before yours included a series of tweets that indicates Steeler officials expect Ben to play "next week." Don't FF playoffs usually start in week 14 or 15?

I think he's referring to the Steelers' chance at the playoffs. 2 of their next 3 games are vs Baltimore, who they already trail by 1 game in the division.

If Ben misses 3 games, I don't see them winning the division. He is their clear MVP right now. However, the AFC still very weak so I think they'll still be a favorite for one of the wildcards. If Ben misses more than 3 games, stick a fork in them.

 

[zed2283]

I've got Eli on bye this week... is Leftwich worth picking up against the Ravens? Or would I be better to take a zero? (1 pt/50, -1 for int). 12 team dynasty league, no other starters available.

 

[fred_1_15301]

I've got Eli on bye this week... is Leftwich worth picking up against the Ravens? Or would I be better to take a zero? (1 pt/50, -1 for int). 12 team dynasty league, no other starters available.

Are you being serious? Leftwich is bad but I think you can expect > 0 points from him.

 

[zed2283]

I've got Eli on bye this week... is Leftwich worth picking up against the Ravens? Or would I be better to take a zero? (1 pt/50, -1 for int). 12 team dynasty league, no other starters available.

Are you being serious? Leftwich is bad but I think you can expect > 0 points from him.

I have flashbacks of Alex Van Pelt scoring -3 on a Monday night, causing my buddy to lose a game he was winning.

 

[ldizzle]

Clayton reported him as being doubtful

 

[Bayhawks]

Worth holding on to? I know he's a tough dude, but sounds like he is going to be out a few weeks and a few weeks = playoffs.

We're in week 11. The post before yours included a series of tweets that indicates Steeler officials expect Ben to play "next week." Don't FF playoffs usually start in week 14 or 15?

I think he's referring to the Steelers' chance at the playoffs. 2 of their next 3 games are vs Baltimore, who they already trail by 1 game in the division.

No, he has to mean FF playoffs. He starts his post with "worth holding on to?" Even if the injury were season ending, the Steelers aren't going to cut him.

 

[Cookiemonster]

Worth holding on to? I know he's a tough dude, but sounds like he is going to be out a few weeks and a few weeks = playoffs.

We're in week 11. The post before yours included a series of tweets that indicates Steeler officials expect Ben to play "next week." Don't FF playoffs usually start in week 14 or 15?

I think he's referring to the Steelers' chance at the playoffs. 2 of their next 3 games are vs Baltimore, who they already trail by 1 game in the division.

No, he has to mean FF playoffs. He starts his post with "worth holding on to?" Even if the injury were season ending, the Steelers aren't going to cut him.

You're right. Missed that part. SD, DAL, CIN weeks 14-16. Not exactly cupcakes for QBs, and that's if you would even trust him to start coming off a (throwing arm) shoulder injury.

 

[zed2283]

I thought I heard Tomlin say that Batch could get the start?

 

[phatrat]

Worth holding on to? I know he's a tough dude, but sounds like he is going to be out a few weeks and a few weeks = playoffs.

We're in week 11. The post before yours included a series of tweets that indicates Steeler officials expect Ben to play "next week." Don't FF playoffs usually start in week 14 or 15?

I think he's referring to the Steelers' chance at the playoffs. 2 of their next 3 games are vs Baltimore, who they already trail by 1 game in the division.

No, he has to mean FF playoffs. He starts his post with "worth holding on to?" Even if the injury were season ending, the Steelers aren't going to cut him.

You're right. Missed that part. SD, DAL, CIN weeks 14-16. Not exactly cupcakes for QBs, and that's if you would even trust him to start coming off a (throwing arm) shoulder injury.

This...

 

[GoBirds]

Worth holding on to? I know he's a tough dude, but sounds like he is going to be out a few weeks and a few weeks = playoffs.

We're in week 11. The post before yours included a series of tweets that indicates Steeler officials expect Ben to play "next week." Don't FF playoffs usually start in week 14 or 15?

I think he's referring to the Steelers' chance at the playoffs. 2 of their next 3 games are vs Baltimore, who they already trail by 1 game in the division.

No, he has to mean FF playoffs. He starts his post with "worth holding on to?" Even if the injury were season ending, the Steelers aren't going to cut him.

You're right. Missed that part. SD, DAL, CIN weeks 14-16. Not exactly cupcakes for QBs, and that's if you would even trust him to start coming off a (throwing arm) shoulder injury.

This...

I think I am about to drop him for Palmer if I can get him....only other QB I have is Rivers.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

I've got Eli on bye this week... is Leftwich worth picking up against the Ravens? Or would I be better to take a zero? (1 pt/50, -1 for int). 12 team dynasty league, no other starters available.

Are you being serious? Leftwich is bad but I think you can expect > 0 points from him.

I have flashbacks of Alex Van Pelt scoring -3 on a Monday night, causing my buddy to lose a game he was winning.

That happened to me with Brunnel one time :X The Ravens pass D isn't good and they don't bring a lot of pressure. If Leftwich has anything at all left, he should get you something.

 

[zamboni]

Even if Ben only misses one game, I don't think he's going to be putting up the numbers he did earlier in the year.

The team may not want him to air it out as much to avoid worsening the injury, plus the team seems to have recommitted itself to the running game (especially as the weather gets colder). Not much success against KC running the ball, but it worked very well the past three weeks and now all three RBs will probably be healthy.

 

[zed2283]

I've got Eli on bye this week... is Leftwich worth picking up against the Ravens? Or would I be better to take a zero? (1 pt/50, -1 for int). 12 team dynasty league, no other starters available.

Are you being serious? Leftwich is bad but I think you can expect > 0 points from him.

I have flashbacks of Alex Van Pelt scoring -3 on a Monday night, causing my buddy to lose a game he was winning.

That happened to me with Brunnel one time :X The Ravens pass D isn't good and they don't bring a lot of pressure. If Leftwich has anything at all left, he should get you something.

I have visions of Ed Reed getting about a 10-yard head start with Leftwich's huge wind up...

 

[Tybeeman]

JayGlazer: Ben Roethlisberger is out this week and Byron Leftwich will get the start. Steelers are not taking any chances w Ben, deciding to sit him

Glazer tweeted this a few minutes ago

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

This whole 'questionable' and 'taking no chances' schtick when we already knew for sure Roeth was out makes me think he'll be out for multiple weeks at a minimum and the Steelers are hoping to confuse W12/13 opponents about his availability.

 

[phatrat]

According to FOX's Jay Glazer, Ben Roethlisberger (shoulder) will not play in Sunday night's game against the Ravens.

Roethlisberger has a SC sprain in his throwing shoulder and a rib injury as well.

ESPN reports that he's "extremely sore" and "hurting pretty bad." They suggest that his injuries are significant and "could take a while to heal."

I just have a feeling it's going to be 3 weeks, and then it will be fantasy playoff time and do you trust starting him then coming off an injury to his throwing shoulder?

 

[phatrat]

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter

While focus is on Ben Roethlisberger's shoulder, greater concern is his injured rib. Roethlisberger's rib injury is rare and dangerous.

 

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http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2012-11-13/ben-roethlisberger-injury-update-shoulder-status-steelers-qb-start-fantasy

Confirmed OUT

 

[Godsbrother]

I thought I heard Tomlin say that Batch could get the start?

Nope they're going to go with Lefty. He has a much stronger arm but I think Batch is the better QB. If Ben is out for any length of time we're likely to see both as neither are very durable.

 

[Peak]

I thought I heard Tomlin say that Batch could get the start?

Nope they're going to go with Lefty. He has a much stronger arm but I think Batch is the better QB. If Ben is out for any length of time we're likely to see both as neither are very durable.

With this in mind, does this de-value Miller for this week? When Ben left the game on Monday, Miller wasn't targeted by Leftwich. I know Ben wanted to have Miller more involved, and his stats are showing that to be true. But with the change in QB, I'm thinking Miller will take a hit on targets and RZ opportunities as long as Leftwich is under center.

 

[ThaPenguin]

@EdBouchette #Roethlisberger's rib is partially dislocated and of more concern than the shoulder. Don't look for him to play in awhile. #Steelers

@EdBouchette #Steelers Roethlisberger said today it's so rare that the last time dr. told him it occurred was with rugby player in 1998

@EdBouchette #Steelers Ben Roethlisberger has a rare rib injury that could kill him by pressing against his aorta. Too big risk. Has to wait until heals

 

[The Hank]

@EdBouchette #Steelers Ben Roethlisberger has a rare rib injury that could kill him by pressing against his aorta. Too big risk. Has to wait until heals

 

[Godsbrother]

@EdBouchette #Steelers Ben Roethlisberger has a rare rib injury that could kill him by pressing against his aorta. Too big risk. Has to wait until heals

And I wonder how long that will be? The news is getting worse and worse. It is starting to sound like Ben may be out a month or more. If so they better start looking to bring on a 3rd QB cause Lefty & Batch aren't very durable themselves. My guess is that Jerrod Johnson will be signed to the practice squad.

 

[flapgreen]

@EdBouchette #Steelers Ben Roethlisberger has a rare rib injury that could kill him by pressing against his aorta. Too big risk. Has to wait until heals

This is my buddy's fault.

 

[Bracie Smathers]

@EdBouchette #Steelers Ben Roethlisberger has a rare rib injury that could kill him by pressing against his aorta. Too big risk. Has to wait until heals

Wow!Big story and probably deserving of its own thread and some medical feedback by Jene and anyone else who can provide medical details.

 

[mphtrilogy]

I have him and am planning for a month minimum... had to make a sticker price move since I lost Roeth and Vick this weekend...

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

@EdBouchette #Steelers Ben Roethlisberger has a rare rib injury that could kill him by pressing against his aorta. Too big risk. Has to wait until heals

Wow!Big story and probably deserving of its own thread and some medical feedback by Jene and anyone else who can provide medical details.

This happens with many broken ribs id imagine. The ribcage surrounds/protects the heart/other organs. But it means that like romo a few years back that its a more severe rib fracture than a cracked rib.That said ben has played through ridiculous injuries before. Dude is a warrior. I won't be cutting him just yet.

 

[Dought Man]

@EdBouchette #Steelers Ben Roethlisberger has a rare rib injury that could kill him by pressing against his aorta. Too big risk. Has to wait until heals

Wow!Big story and probably deserving of its own thread and some medical feedback by Jene and anyone else who can provide medical details.

This happens with many broken ribs id imagine. The ribcage surrounds/protects the heart/other organs. But it means that like romo a few years back that its a more severe rib fracture than a cracked rib.That said ben has played through ridiculous injuries before. Dude is a warrior. I won't be cutting him just yet.

He is a real lunchpail guy...

 

[Godsbrother]

I thought I heard Tomlin say that Batch could get the start?

Nope they're going to go with Lefty. He has a much stronger arm but I think Batch is the better QB. If Ben is out for any length of time we're likely to see both as neither are very durable.

With this in mind, does this de-value Miller for this week? When Ben left the game on Monday, Miller wasn't targeted by Leftwich. I know Ben wanted to have Miller more involved, and his stats are showing that to be true. But with the change in QB, I'm thinking Miller will take a hit on targets and RZ opportunities as long as Leftwich is under center.

I was at the game on Monday and didn't get a chance to rewatch the game on DVR but my guess is that Miller was staying in for pass protection a good amount once Ben went down. At that time Leftwich was the only active QB on the roster and the Steelers were one nasty hit away from having Emmanuel Sanders at QB.

 

[Bracie Smathers]

@EdBouchette #Steelers Ben Roethlisberger has a rare rib injury that could kill him by pressing against his aorta. Too big risk. Has to wait until heals

Wow!Big story and probably deserving of its own thread and some medical feedback by Jene and anyone else who can provide medical details.

This happens with many broken ribs id imagine. The ribcage surrounds/protects the heart/other organs. But it means that like romo a few years back that its a more severe rib fracture than a cracked rib.That said ben has played through ridiculous injuries before. Dude is a warrior. I won't be cutting him just yet.

He is a real lunchpail guy...

Well I guess I am over-reacting but its because when I was a younger man I saw a girl get into a horrible skiing accident where she crashed into some trees at a high velocity and I was the only one who saw it and their was no one else nearby.She broke a couple of ribs and one punctured her spleen, long and exhausting story but I guess that did trigger a certain impulse in me where I find this to be extremely serious and nothing to laugh off.

 

[letter_j]

Ugh...

ESPN's Bob Holtzman reported on NFL Live Wednesday that doctors have advised Ben Roethlisberger (shoulder, ribs) to not return until his partially dislocated rib is completely healed, and "that could take up to six weeks."

It's unwelcome news, though Roethlisberger's timeline remains muddled. ESPN's Adam Schefter hinted there's at least a small chance Roethlisberger could be ready to return by Week 13, while coach Mike Tomlin seemed to scoff at the notion that his quarterback's season was in danger. However, Ben himself has copped to being in so much pain he slept in a chair Monday and Tuesday nights. It's a situation we're unlikely to have a firm grasp on for at least another week. For now, owners should plan on Roethlisberger missing at least two games.

Nov 14 - 4:38 PM

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/1181/ben-roethlisberger

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

Not a Ben owner, but wow, that really sucks

 

[phatrat]

Ugh...ESPN's Bob Holtzman reported on NFL Live Wednesday that doctors have advised Ben Roethlisberger (shoulder, ribs) to not return until his partially dislocated rib is completely healed, and "that could take up to six weeks."It's unwelcome news, though Roethlisberger's timeline remains muddled. ESPN's Adam Schefter hinted there's at least a small chance Roethlisberger could be ready to return by Week 13, while coach Mike Tomlin seemed to scoff at the notion that his quarterback's season was in danger. However, Ben himself has copped to being in so much pain he slept in a chair Monday and Tuesday nights. It's a situation we're unlikely to have a firm grasp on for at least another week. For now, owners should plan on Roethlisberger missing at least two games.Nov 14 - 4:38 PMhttp://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/1181/ben-roethlisberger

Guess I didn't sound so crazy yesterday about dropping him after all...lol

 

[Raider Nation]

With Steelers coach Ben Roethlisberger going “next question” when asked during the week about quarterback Ben Roethlisberger’s availability beyond Sunday night against the Ravens, it’s been hard to tell how long Ben will be out.

Especially since the only person who has spoken on the record about the extent of his injury is the notoriously dramatic Roethlisberger.

But there’s now a bit of clarity, reportedly, regarding Ben’s availability.

Adam Schefter and Chris Mortensen of ESPN report that the team’s doctors believe Roethlisberger will miss three weeks. However, the team has not yet given up hope that Roethlisberger will be able to play when the Steelers head to Baltimore in two weeks.

About as good as could be expected, if accurate.

 

[Raider Nation]

Mark Kaboly of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review reports that Roethlisberger said Thursday that he’s still uncertain about his ability to play. Per Roethlisberger, the decision will be based on his arm strength and only his arm strength because he isn’t currently having any other problems that will keep him from playing.With one more day of practice to go on Friday before the Steelers have to decide on Roethlisberger’s injury report designation and no real reason to announce anything too long before the start of the game, there’s a good chance we’ll go into the weekend without knowing the identity of the Steelers quarterback.

 

[Godsbrother]

Mark Kaboly of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review reports that Roethlisberger said Thursday that he’s still uncertain about his ability to play. Per Roethlisberger, the decision will be based on his arm strength and only his arm strength because he isn’t currently having any other problems that will keep him from playing.With one more day of practice to go on Friday before the Steelers have to decide on Roethlisberger’s injury report designation and no real reason to announce anything too long before the start of the game, there’s a good chance we’ll go into the weekend without knowing the identity of the Steelers quarterback.

Saw him throwing at practice yesterday. He wasn't wincing or showing any signs of pain but he wasn't throwing very hard either (probably about as hard as Batch can throw though ). My gut tells me he isn't playing but it is only Thursday...

 

[Raider Nation]

Video interview

I really, really need him to suit up this week. (2-QB league)...

 

[Bracie Smathers]

@EdBouchette #Roethlisberger's rib is partially dislocated and of more concern than the shoulder. Don't look for him to play in awhile. #Steelers

@EdBouchette #Steelers Roethlisberger said today it's so rare that the last time dr. told him it occurred was with rugby player in 1998

@EdBouchette #Steelers Ben Roethlisberger has a rare rib injury that could kill him by pressing against his aorta. Too big risk. Has to wait until heals

That is all you need to know.He's not playing.

 

[Raider Nation]

Mark Kaboly of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review reports that Roethlisberger said Thursday that he’s still uncertain about his ability to play. Per Roethlisberger, the decision will be based on his arm strength and only his arm strength because he isn’t currently having any other problems that will keep him from playing.With one more day of practice to go on Friday before the Steelers have to decide on Roethlisberger’s injury report designation and no real reason to announce anything too long before the start of the game, there’s a good chance we’ll go into the weekend without knowing the identity of the Steelers quarterback.

 

[Godsbrother]

@EdBouchette #Roethlisberger's rib is partially dislocated and of more concern than the shoulder. Don't look for him to play in awhile. #Steelers

@EdBouchette #Steelers Roethlisberger said today it's so rare that the last time dr. told him it occurred was with rugby player in 1998

@EdBouchette #Steelers Ben Roethlisberger has a rare rib injury that could kill him by pressing against his aorta. Too big risk. Has to wait until heals

That is all you need to know.He's not playing.

I don't think so either but the doctors are saying the rib is healed enough that it is no longer a danger to his aorta.

 

[letter_j]

The Steelers have formally ruled OUT Ben Roethlisberger (shoulder, ribs) for Week 13 against the Ravens.

Per Gerry Dulac of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, Roethlisberger is simply "unable to throw." Charlie Batch will get the start after failing to move the offense in last week's loss to the Browns. It's a big concern for all Steelers skill-position players, from Mike Wallace to Jonathan Dwyer. It's also a major concern for Pittsburgh's season. Mike Tomlin's team is 6-5 and will probably be back to .500 after this away date with Baltimore.

Source: Gerry Dulac on Twitter Nov 30 - 1:47 PM

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/1181/ben-roethlisberger

 

[Clifford]

This makes me worried about week 14 availablility