Roger Goodell is the best commissioner I've ever seen (1 Viewer)

[Pai Mei]

This guy understands his job like no other. His job is to generate interest, to get people talking about the product that is the NFL. His borderline over-the-top rulings and punishments for various players and entire teams have done so much to keep the NFL in the news. I've never seen any commissioner work the crowd like this guy has. He's got fans hating the Patriots so much people want to stick an asterisk on them. Brilliant marketing. Spygate would not exist without Goodell. I mean sure the Patriots are on a historic run but this guy has pushed all the right buttons to milk it.

This guy is like Vince McMahon. The NHL needs a guy like this.

 

[phthalatemagic]

This guy is like Vince McMahon.

I think you could be on to something here.

 

[Truman]

This guy is like Vince McMahon.

I'm stealing that.

 

[Mookie Blaylock]

This guy understands his job like no other. His job is to generate interest, to get people talking about the product that is the NFL. His borderline over-the-top rulings and punishments for various players and entire teams have done so much to keep the NFL in the news. I've never seen any commissioner work the crowd like this guy has. He's got fans hating the Patriots so much people want to stick an asterisk on them. Brilliant marketing. Spygate would not exist without Goodell. I mean sure the Patriots are on a historic run but this guy has pushed all the right buttons to milk it.This guy is like Vince McMahon. The NHL needs a guy like this.

He's done one hell of a job keeping the NFL out of the Steriod/HGH wheelhouse. It's amazing how little run "the juice" has gotten with respect to the NFL. I think he's fine with trading Vick and Pac Man for getting a pass on las drogas. And the McMahon similarities are interesting. Are we going to see him suit up if ratings start to dip?

 

[DawgPoundNJ]

This guy understands his job like no other. His job is to generate interest, to get people talking about the product that is the NFL. His borderline over-the-top rulings and punishments for various players and entire teams have done so much to keep the NFL in the news. I've never seen any commissioner work the crowd like this guy has. He's got fans hating the Patriots so much people want to stick an asterisk on them. Brilliant marketing. Spygate would not exist without Goodell. I mean sure the Patriots are on a historic run but this guy has pushed all the right buttons to milk it.

This guy is like Vince McMahon. The NHL needs a guy like this.

To be honest and to rehash an absolutely beaten down topic, I think it's absolute bovine feces that QB coach Wade Wilson got suspended 4 games for taking HGH for male enhancement reasons due to Diabetes, while Belichick gets caught fiddling directly with the integrity of the game and doesn't miss any time. The worst part about it is the punishment was worse if the Patriots missed the playoffs as I'd rather give up a late 1st with SF's 1st rounder there rather than a 2nd and a 3rd.That said, the infraction happened in the first game of the season and does not merit an asterisk or even a footnote.

Goodell was going along so good with cracking down on thuggery in the league as well. One rule that needs changing: every time Joey Porter guarantees a victory, he should be suspended 4 games for intentionally misleading paying ticketholders.

 

[Mookie Blaylock]

Goodell is the new David Stern. The patriots are the Lakers. Marketing is all that matters now. Blah blah blah. I miss sweetness and Ditka and quarterbacks that got the piss knocked out of them and got up again. I am so sick of the corporate slime NFL we have today.

 

[DawgPoundNJ]

You have a point, Mookie Blaylock (I haven't heard that name in years).

I hate a lot of the "No Fun League" type rules and overly protecting the QB.

That said, I like VP of Officiating Mike Pereira for having the guts to go on Sirius and the NFL Network and explain controversial calls during the week (although NFL Network blew it by not addressing the Winslow catch/force out at the end of the Arizona game). He'll be critical of his guys if they were wrong.

 

[Mookie Blaylock]

You have a point, Mookie Blaylock (I haven't heard that name in years). I hate a lot of the "No Fun League" type rules and overly protecting the QB. That said, I like VP of Officiating Mike Pereira for having the guts to go on Sirius and the NFL Network and explain controversial calls during the week (although NFL Network blew it by not addressing the Winslow catch/force out at the end of the Arizona game). He'll be critical of his guys if they were wrong.

Does this happen every week? If so this is solid. How have you felt about the explanations? Are they worthwhile or just suit-speak?

 

[DawgPoundNJ]

Mike Pereira's honesty on both Sirius radio and the NFL Network is refreshing and not at all suit-speak. My impression of him is tough, but fair in enforcing the rules set and holding referees and umps accountable for errors. He actually apologized for a couple of bad calls during the season. I think it's on NFL Total Access on Wednesdays and he was on Sirius today so I'm not sure if it's an every Thursday thing, but yeah, he's honest and it's not BS.

 

[Mookie Blaylock]

Mike Pereira's honesty on both Sirius radio and the NFL Network is refreshing and not at all suit-speak. My impression of him is tough, but fair in enforcing the rules set and holding referees and umps accountable for errors. He actually apologized for a couple of bad calls during the season. I think it's on NFL Total Access on Wednesdays and he was on Sirius today so I'm not sure if it's an every Thursday thing, but yeah, he's honest and it's not BS.

Very nice. I will have to check that out. Look, I hate my hate for the NFL right now, but the product is very watered down in my opinion. What the patriots are doing is not supposed to happen in this NFL - and that was one of my favorite things about the league. You can't have a league where one team doesn't lose. You just can't. I know the patriot freaks will cry all day long about this, but what their team is doing is bad for the league, not good. And it's not all them either. It's the league being down talent-wise accross the board and the NFL itself pushing their golden franchise IE Stern and the Lakers. Tom Brady is not good for football, Favre is good for football. Elway was good for football.

 

[chuckmorris]

Goodell's doing a pretty good job, but he's got quite a way to go to match Rozelle's record as commish. The NFL he took over in 1960 was a far smaller one that was much less popular with the public nationally than it became during his time in office. Just my 2 cents.

 

[slayer666]

Roger Goodell was handed the keys to a Ferrari.

 

[The Pitbull]

Tom Brady is not good for football, Favre is good for football. Elway was good for football.

Im not sure I get this... unless you are a typical Patriot hater like most of the Non-Boston "sheeple" who buy into whatever the media is selling. Tom Brady is BETTER than either of those guys, and what he is doing this season is simply amazing. Im not sure how he could be "bad" for football. That's just silly.

 

[TitusIII]

Roger Goodell was handed the keys to a Ferrari.

He has ESPN, and all the other media outlets with a vested interest in the NFL at his disposal. Shaping public opinion isn't rocket science...

 

[gump]

Roger Goodell was handed the keys to a Ferrari.

You are talking about a sport that garnered a $1.65B/year TV contract for 2 games a week.Pretty difficult to put a dent in that.Goodell is what the game needs now, but Rozelle built the monster.

 

[Rebirtha]

Roger Goodell was handed the keys to a Ferrari.

Shaping public opinion isn't rocket science...

[David Stern] Oh no? [/Gary Bettman]

 

[roadkill1292]

Mike Pereira's honesty on both Sirius radio and the NFL Network is refreshing and not at all suit-speak. My impression of him is tough, but fair in enforcing the rules set and holding referees and umps accountable for errors. He actually apologized for a couple of bad calls during the season. I think it's on NFL Total Access on Wednesdays and he was on Sirius today so I'm not sure if it's an every Thursday thing, but yeah, he's honest and it's not BS.

Very nice. I will have to check that out. Look, I hate my hate for the NFL right now, but the product is very watered down in my opinion. What the patriots are doing is not supposed to happen in this NFL - and that was one of my favorite things about the league. You can't have a league where one team doesn't lose. You just can't. I know the patriot freaks will cry all day long about this, but what their team is doing is bad for the league, not good. And it's not all them either. It's the league being down talent-wise accross the board and the NFL itself pushing their golden franchise IE Stern and the Lakers. Tom Brady is not good for football, Favre is good for football. Elway was good for football.

I share a lot of your concerns about the league, especially its disciplinary policies, but to focus on the success of the Pats as one of the problems is misguided. What they are doing in the face of a structure designed to prevent this from happening (the draft) is not only remarkable but downright interesting, even if you're not one of their fans (which I'm not). I'm not a big fan of the draft.

 

[DawgPoundNJ]

Of course with Brady the Pats were going to be good, but Welker was a journeyman with some upside, Stallworth has spaghetti hamstrings, and Moss was coming off a season where he was disinterested and aloof, not to mention he had an iffy training camp with his hamstring himself.

I think their success is a product of good coaching (as much as I despise Belichick for being a mediocre jerk with the Browns) and a rock solid system and culture rather than the league pushing them.

It's a story, and even if it was a small market like the Carolina Panthers or the Jaguars, it would be getting the same push from the league as it's a historic feat and generates serious interest.

 

[brock]

nfl meets wwe is exactly right. this season was written before the first snap of week 1 with up dates added along the way. just like the wwe a lot of the action is real but you don't let fate determine the final outcomes you write it yourself and make sure it sells.

 

[gump]

Mike Pereira's honesty on both Sirius radio and the NFL Network is refreshing and not at all suit-speak. My impression of him is tough, but fair in enforcing the rules set and holding referees and umps accountable for errors. He actually apologized for a couple of bad calls during the season. I think it's on NFL Total Access on Wednesdays and he was on Sirius today so I'm not sure if it's an every Thursday thing, but yeah, he's honest and it's not BS.

Very nice. I will have to check that out. Look, I hate my hate for the NFL right now, but the product is very watered down in my opinion. What the patriots are doing is not supposed to happen in this NFL - and that was one of my favorite things about the league. You can't have a league where one team doesn't lose. You just can't. I know the patriot freaks will cry all day long about this, but what their team is doing is bad for the league, not good. And it's not all them either. It's the league being down talent-wise accross the board and the NFL itself pushing their golden franchise IE Stern and the Lakers. Tom Brady is not good for football, Favre is good for football. Elway was good for football.

I share a lot of your concerns about the league, especially its disciplinary policies, but to focus on the success of the Pats as one of the problems is misguided. What they are doing in the face of a structure designed to prevent this from happening (the draft) is not only remarkable but downright interesting, even if you're not one of their fans (which I'm not).

The NFL is loving this NE run. It is creating another "hot market" on top of the normal Post Season. - 5 & 6 years ago...Pats win. Top 5 market for the NFL, hungry for a championship.

- 4 years ago...Bucs win. Great for the NFL with a new team, top-15 market hungry for anything they can get their hands on.

- 3 years ago...Pats repeat. Huge market with a unique 3rd Championship.

- 2 years ago...Steelers win...the best fanbase in the NFL for business...breaks every record for sales

- 1 year ago...Colts win...legendary QB and Coach take it home for a rabid fanbase

- Now...NE again...but it elimates the staleness and will bring out a whole new NE fan on top of the huge fanbase

NFL is winning...period. And we'll be talkng next year about a huge GB win or an even bigger Dallas win. How many markets of the NFL does that cover?

 

[NeverEnough]

Tom Brady is not good for football, Favre is good for football. Elway was good for football.

Im not sure I get this... unless you are a typical Patriot hater like most of the Non-Boston "sheeple" who buy into whatever the media is selling. Tom Brady is BETTER than either of those guys, and what he is doing this season is simply amazing. Im not sure how he could be "bad" for football. That's just silly.

Brady better than Favre or Elway? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[VonRomig]

Goodell is a sheep in wolf clothing.

Throwing out overblown punishments to players involved in actions that have nothing to do with the NFL, except for that quasi-notion of league intigrity. But he then wimps out when a real blow to the intigrity of the NFL happens, that wholely involves the core essence of the NFL concept of fair play.

The only thing he has shown to be good at is damage control. Goodell was able to throw the full force of the illegal actions and responcibilities of same at Belicheat, while being very easy on him. Yet who is talking about other peoples' involvement in the cheating. Afterall, Brady would have to know what is going on, as well as others. It's hard to beleive that Brady would not know how it is possible that his people would know the defense even before the defense fully formed up. Now we know that Brady did not read defenses, he was just told before his head-set went silent. Brady was involved as well. What about the coordinators? The Owner? Nothing. When it comes up in the media, it is only related to Belicheat, and that we have Goodell to thank. So in that he is a master.

Other then this he has done absolutely nothing. He was given a hot commodity, and it is way too soon to see if he'll heat it up or cool it off. So far his track record is not looking good at all.

Von

 

[The Pitbull]

Brady better than Favre or Elway? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Yes. I think Tom Brady is better than either Favre or Elway. And you find that laughable why? (Not to hijack a thread about the NFL being "fixed"; which BTW I think is simply ridiculous.)

 

[Road Warriors]

Goodell is a sheep in wolf clothing.

Throwing out overblown punishments to players involved in actions that have nothing to do with the NFL, except for that quasi-notion of league intigrity. But he then wimps out when a real blow to the intigrity of the NFL happens, that wholely involves the core essence of the NFL concept of fair play.

The only thing he has shown to be good at is damage control. Goodell was able to throw the full force of the illegal actions and responcibilities of same at Belicheat, while being very easy on him. Yet who is talking about other peoples' involvement in the cheating. Afterall, Brady would have to know what is going on, as well as others. It's hard to beleive that Brady would not know how it is possible that his people would know the defense even before the defense fully formed up. Now we know that Brady did not read defenses, he was just told before his head-set went silent. Brady was involved as well. What about the coordinators? The Owner? Nothing. When it comes up in the media, it is only related to Belicheat, and that we have Goodell to thank. So in that he is a master.

Other then this he has done absolutely nothing. He was given a hot commodity, and it is way too soon to see if he'll heat it up or cool it off. So far his track record is not looking good at all.

Von

That was sure proved out this year after they got caught. He's been downright awful without the taping this year.

 

[pettifogger]

I think having a team go 16-0 is a forseeable result of having parity rules like the salary cap, etc. It's probably easier to run the table when there is a set of rules designed to force teams to the middle talentwise, one team that is better can make a run. The mid-80s 49ers, Bears, Cowboys, Giants all had to face each other and even in their best seasons had to play some well above-average teams on their schedules each year.

 

[DropKick]

Tom Brady is not good for football, Favre is good for football. Elway was good for football.

Im not sure I get this... unless you are a typical Patriot hater like most of the Non-Boston "sheeple" who buy into whatever the media is selling. Tom Brady is BETTER than either of those guys, and what he is doing this season is simply amazing. Im not sure how he could be "bad" for football. That's just silly.

Brady better than Favre or Elway? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Favre and Brady are very comparable when you look at their passing numbers through the first seven years of their careers. Elway is well below their pace. Just a reality check.

 

[thayman]

Mike Pereira's honesty on both Sirius radio and the NFL Network is refreshing and not at all suit-speak. My impression of him is tough, but fair in enforcing the rules set and holding referees and umps accountable for errors. He actually apologized for a couple of bad calls during the season. I think it's on NFL Total Access on Wednesdays and he was on Sirius today so I'm not sure if it's an every Thursday thing, but yeah, he's honest and it's not BS.

Very nice. I will have to check that out. Look, I hate my hate for the NFL right now, but the product is very watered down in my opinion. What the patriots are doing is not supposed to happen in this NFL - and that was one of my favorite things about the league. You can't have a league where one team doesn't lose. You just can't. I know the patriot freaks will cry all day long about this, but what their team is doing is bad for the league, not good. And it's not all them either. It's the league being down talent-wise accross the board and the NFL itself pushing their golden franchise IE Stern and the Lakers. Tom Brady is not good for football, Favre is good for football. Elway was good for football.

I think the Patriots being unbeaten is very good for the NFL business wise. The big complaint that you have heard over the past few years is "nothing to play for in week 17, all the studs/heavily marketed players aren't playing". Now there is something to play for, something that increases their impressive ad generating monster.

 

[thayman]

Tom Brady is not good for football, Favre is good for football. Elway was good for football.

Im not sure I get this... unless you are a typical Patriot hater like most of the Non-Boston "sheeple" who buy into whatever the media is selling. Tom Brady is BETTER than either of those guys, and what he is doing this season is simply amazing. Im not sure how he could be "bad" for football. That's just silly.

Brady better than Favre or Elway? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Favre and Brady are very comparable when you look at their passing numbers through the first seven years of their careers. Elway is well below their pace. Just a reality check.

Not counting what happens this week, the first 7 years Favre threw for only 789 more yards, 18 more TDs, and 30 more INTs.

 

[NeverEnough]

It's not always just about stats

 

[Mister Martie]

It's not always just about stats

Really? Then what is it about? Superbowls?

 

[VonRomig]

It's not always just about stats

Really? Then what is it about? Superbowls?

When comparing players it's about the individual stats... As for Superbowls one must realize it takes an entire team to accomplish that feat. So, no. It has nothing to do with Superbowl winning numbers.Von

 

[The Pitbull]

When comparing players it's about the individual stats... As for Superbowls one must realize it takes an entire team to accomplish that feat. So, no. It has nothing to do with Superbowl winning numbers.Von

So by your logic... Favre is a better QB than Joe Montana?

 

[dickey moe]

Good posting BGP.

 

[JaxBill]

The NHL needs any guy with a clue.

Fixed.Signed, A Frustrated Hockey Fan

 

[JaxBill]

Tom Brady is not good for football, Favre is good for football. Elway was good for football.

Im not sure I get this... unless you are a typical Patriot hater like most of the Non-Boston "sheeple" who buy into whatever the media is selling.

Um, ESPN is all over Brady's jock with the whole "Pursuit of Perfection" melodrama. Sure, some media can't stand Belichick, but most national guys genuflect before saying Tom Brady's name.

 

[Kiddnets]

Like him so far except he completely dropped the ball in Spygate - no suspension and docks a late 1st rder when the PAts still have a top 10 pick - what a joke!

 

[Topes]

Like him so far except he completely dropped the ball in Spygate - no suspension and docks a late 1st rder when the PAts still have a top 10 pick - what a joke!

Taking a team's first rounder is a pretty stiff penalty, IMO.It doesn't matter what else they had on the board.Goodell? Meh. Tagliabue? Meh.Neither of them has really screwed it up.The NFL provides a great product that is well marketed. A commish doesn't have to do a whole lot except not screw it up.

 

[Topes]

He's got fans hating the Patriots so much people want to stick an asterisk on them. Brilliant marketing. Spygate would not exist without Goodell. I mean sure the Patriots are on a historic run but this guy has pushed all the right buttons to milk it.

So, what are you implying here? That Goodell was milking the Path to Perfection after week one? I'd think that'd have been a bit early to be on that bandwagon, unless....

 

[JaxBill]

Like him so far except he completely dropped the ball in Spygate - no suspension and docks a late 1st rder when the PAts still have a top 10 pick - what a joke!

Taking a team's first rounder is a pretty stiff penalty, IMO.It doesn't matter what else they had on the board.Goodell? Meh. Tagliabue? Meh.Neither of them has really screwed it up.The NFL provides a great product that is well marketed. A commish doesn't have to do a whole lot except not screw it up.

Mostly agree. A great commish like Rozelle looks ahead. As far as the Spygate punishment, I thought it was fair. A first-rounder is still a first-rounder.

 

[The Pitbull]

Tom Brady is not good for football, Favre is good for football. Elway was good for football.

Im not sure I get this... unless you are a typical Patriot hater like most of the Non-Boston "sheeple" who buy into whatever the media is selling.

Um, ESPN is all over Brady's jock with the whole "Pursuit of Perfection" melodrama. Sure, some media can't stand Belichick, but most national guys genuflect before saying Tom Brady's name.

NOW they are... but the underlying vibe after the whole videotaping scandal (which was EXTREMELY blown out of proportion imo), was Patriots = BAD/Cheaters/Classless ect. In the aftermath of that stuff, was some of the most irresponsible sports journalism that this country has ever seen. Now that their (the media's) attempt to tear Belichick and his team down failed, and the Patriots are close to going undefeated... the Network has refocused their efforts towards milking the "Path to Perfection" cow. It's all about the "sexy story". Unfortunately for Brady, the damage is already done. The media has already (inadvertently or not) swayed a large part of the nation outside of the Boston area to actually believe silly stuff like what the poster above (MookieBlaylock) said (Tom Brady is "not good for football" ).

 

[roadkill1292]

I think having a team go 16-0 is a forseeable result of having parity rules like the salary cap, etc. It's probably easier to run the table when there is a set of rules designed to force teams to the middle talentwise, one team that is better can make a run. The mid-80s 49ers, Bears, Cowboys, Giants all had to face each other and even in their best seasons had to play some well above-average teams on their schedules each year.

That's an interesting concept and I'm sure that it has some validity. However, the rules designed to enhance parity (salary cap, draft) make it harder than ever for one team to rise above the pack, which makes it pretty remarkable that the Patsies have done just that.I agree that the mid-80s had some powerhouse franchises that engaged in some epic battles and stood as impediments to going undefeated. But it would be interesting to research the '72 season and see what kind of teams populated the NFL in the Dolphins' unbeaten season. Going strictly by my very fallible memory, I don't remember there being much in the way of quality competition for them, either, as epitomized by a very flawed Super Bowl opponent in the Redskins.

 

[The Pitbull]

Going strictly by my very fallible memory, I don't remember there being much in the way of quality competition for them, either, as epitomized by a very flawed Super Bowl opponent in the Redskins.

Who were actually FAVORED to beat the '72 Dolphins in the SB.

 

[roadkill1292]

Going strictly by my very fallible memory, I don't remember there being much in the way of quality competition for them, either, as epitomized by a very flawed Super Bowl opponent in the Redskins.

Who were actually FAVORED to beat the '72 Dolphins in the SB.

Admittedly, I have trouble maintaining objectivity about the George Allen Redskins. But they were poor representatives as the best the NFC could offer.

 

[Mister Martie]

It's not always just about stats

Really? Then what is it about? Superbowls?

When comparing players it's about the individual stats... As for Superbowls one must realize it takes an entire team to accomplish that feat. So, no. It has nothing to do with Superbowl winning numbers.Von

What

 

[The Pitbull]

Going strictly by my very fallible memory, I don't remember there being much in the way of quality competition for them, either, as epitomized by a very flawed Super Bowl opponent in the Redskins.

Who were actually FAVORED to beat the '72 Dolphins in the SB.

Admittedly, I have trouble maintaining objectivity about the George Allen Redskins. But they were poor representatives as the best the NFC could offer.

Oh I agree with you that the Redskins were nothing to write home about that season. I'm just pointing out the fact that they were favored to win the game, in attempt to illustrate just how watered down the competition in the league was that season. When people slate the '72 Dolphins as the GTOAT, I find it laughable. 17-0 was impressive, but it doesn't make them the greatest team ever IMO. There are plenty of teams before and after who (I think) would have beaten them handily. That's why I find the obnoxiousness of the players from that team so vomit inducing; and also why I hope the 2007 Patriots eclipse them.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

Goodell is the new David Stern.

Davis Stern is the worst comissioner of our generationother than Gary Bettman.I really like Goodell because he is not brought up throughthe corporations, he's a NFL fan's commisioner.