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sad that this is the last season.
:goodposting: The show seeems to be flying along this year. Anybody know how many episodes are left?I guess it comes down to Antony/Octavian vs Brutus/Cassius?Next week preview: Brutus is suppose to attack but is drawn into a trap because he does not know Octavian and Aantony are now allies. So more than likely while brutus attacks octavians forces, antony will flank him with his legions and break his lines. Meanwhile, pullo and veranus settle things in the city. I think they are going to knock off their all rivals so they can have undisputed control of the aventine. Should be a good episode.
I assumed there would be 12 this season, as there were last season...If so, then there are 7 more to go...ETA: Just looked at imdb.com...The main stars all have "22 episodes" next to their names, so I guess we only have 5 more... :whistle:
 
sad that this is the last season.
:goodposting: The show seeems to be flying along this year. Anybody know how many episodes are left?I guess it comes down to Antony/Octavian vs Brutus/Cassius?Next week preview: Brutus is suppose to attack but is drawn into a trap because he does not know Octavian and Aantony are now allies. So more than likely while brutus attacks octavians forces, antony will flank him with his legions and break his lines. Meanwhile, pullo and veranus settle things in the city. I think they are going to knock off their all rivals so they can have undisputed control of the aventine. Should be a good episode.
i hate knowing how it ends. :whistle:
True - but the show and the acting is still excellent.
 
sad that this is the last season.
:D The show seeems to be flying along this year. Anybody know how many episodes are left?I guess it comes down to Antony/Octavian vs Brutus/Cassius?Next week preview: Brutus is suppose to attack but is drawn into a trap because he does not know Octavian and Aantony are now allies. So more than likely while brutus attacks octavians forces, antony will flank him with his legions and break his lines. Meanwhile, pullo and veranus settle things in the city. I think they are going to knock off their all rivals so they can have undisputed control of the aventine. Should be a good episode.
i hate knowing how it ends. :thumbup:
I think that's part of the reason I am more interested in the Vorenua/Pullo angles...The historical stuff is great, and very well done, but from a drama/suspense standpoint, knowing the history does take a bit away form it
 
Tremendous Upside said:
ooofffaaa said:
Apes with Guns said:
sad that this is the last season.
:whistle: The show seeems to be flying along this year. Anybody know how many episodes are left?I guess it comes down to Antony/Octavian vs Brutus/Cassius?Next week preview: Brutus is suppose to attack but is drawn into a trap because he does not know Octavian and Aantony are now allies. So more than likely while brutus attacks octavians forces, antony will flank him with his legions and break his lines. Meanwhile, pullo and veranus settle things in the city. I think they are going to knock off their all rivals so they can have undisputed control of the aventine. Should be a good episode.
I assumed there would be 12 this season, as there were last season...If so, then there are 7 more to go...ETA: Just looked at imdb.com...The main stars all have "22 episodes" next to their names, so I guess we only have 5 more... :hot:
Well we can't let a bad show like Rome Get in the way of the best show in the history of TV The Sopranos. :thumbup: What a joke. I'm canceling HBO after Rome is finished. I swore off HBO once they canceled Deadwood.
 
Stoneys said:
Is anybody still watching this??
Yep! It is currently the only thing on TV (outside of sports) that I make a concerted effort to watch. I park my but in the lounger every Sunday night to watch it. I am eagerly awaiting the Sopranos, Deadwood, and Entourage to come back so I can add them to the very short list of TV shows worth watching. And it is about time for HBO to add a new series or two as these shows begin to wind down.
 
Well we can't let a bad show like Rome Get in the way of the best show in the history of TV The Sopranos. :moneybag: What a joke. I'm canceling HBO after Rome is finished. I swore off HBO once they canceled Deadwood.
Deadwood isn't quite dead yet is it? I thought there were still a couple of 2 hours movies coming this year to wrap it up.
 
Tremendous Upside said:
ooofffaaa said:
Apes with Guns said:
sad that this is the last season.
:moneybag: The show seeems to be flying along this year. Anybody know how many episodes are left?I guess it comes down to Antony/Octavian vs Brutus/Cassius?Next week preview: Brutus is suppose to attack but is drawn into a trap because he does not know Octavian and Aantony are now allies. So more than likely while brutus attacks octavians forces, antony will flank him with his legions and break his lines. Meanwhile, pullo and veranus settle things in the city. I think they are going to knock off their all rivals so they can have undisputed control of the aventine. Should be a good episode.
I assumed there would be 12 this season, as there were last season...If so, then there are 7 more to go...ETA: Just looked at imdb.com...The main stars all have "22 episodes" next to their names, so I guess we only have 5 more... :moneybag:
Well we can't let a bad show like Rome Get in the way of the best show in the history of TV The Sopranos. :cry: What a joke. I'm canceling HBO after Rome is finished. I swore off HBO once they canceled Deadwood.
Agree 100% and I'm thinking of doing the same.
 
As a bit of an aside I think that Eirene (played By Chiara Mastalli) is simply gorgeous. That Pullo is a lucky man indeed!

 
Tremendous Upside said:
ooofffaaa said:
Apes with Guns said:
sad that this is the last season.
:bag: The show seeems to be flying along this year. Anybody know how many episodes are left?I guess it comes down to Antony/Octavian vs Brutus/Cassius?Next week preview: Brutus is suppose to attack but is drawn into a trap because he does not know Octavian and Aantony are now allies. So more than likely while brutus attacks octavians forces, antony will flank him with his legions and break his lines. Meanwhile, pullo and veranus settle things in the city. I think they are going to knock off their all rivals so they can have undisputed control of the aventine. Should be a good episode.
I assumed there would be 12 this season, as there were last season...If so, then there are 7 more to go...ETA: Just looked at imdb.com...The main stars all have "22 episodes" next to their names, so I guess we only have 5 more... :loco:
Well we can't let a bad show like Rome Get in the way of the best show in the history of TV The Sopranos. :lmao: What a joke. I'm canceling HBO after Rome is finished. I swore off HBO once they canceled Deadwood.
And you'll miss the adaptation of George RR Martin's books. Shame, but you can always buy the DVDs.
 
And you'll miss the adaptation of George RR Martin's books. Shame, but you can always buy the DVDs.
Tell me more. I had been wondering what was coming up.
http://www.variety.com/article/VR111795753...yid=14&cs=1I don't care if it's years away. this could be the greatest television event ever. at least here in geektown.
Sounds interesting. Here's hoping that it is sooner rather than later. I hope that this not another one that gets an early cancellation due to costs, it looks destined to be filmed overseas.
 
And you'll miss the adaptation of George RR Martin's books. Shame, but you can always buy the DVDs.
Tell me more. I had been wondering what was coming up.
http://www.variety.com/article/VR111795753...yid=14&cs=1I don't care if it's years away. this could be the greatest television event ever. at least here in geektown.
Sounds interesting. Here's hoping that it is sooner rather than later. I hope that this not another one that gets an early cancellation due to costs, it looks destined to be filmed overseas.
they could do this in the US, im thinking. but yes, keeping costs down would be important. they may be learning something about making shorter series.

 
The only thing I don't like about Rome is the lack of battle scenes. Hopefully we will get to see a nice big battle this season. It is starting to look that way.

 
The only thing I don't like about Rome is the lack of battle scenes. Hopefully we will get to see a nice big battle this season. It is starting to look that way.
I think that's a cost thing...It's expensive enough as it is...Having to stage numerous battle sequences would be absurdly expensive...
 
This show worth buying or renting on DVD? I've never watched an episode but I am a huge HBO series and history fan.

 
This show worth buying or renting on DVD? I've never watched an episode but I am a huge HBO series and history fan.
I would say it's definitely worth it.But as a history fan, they've taken several liberties with several facts. So as long as you're ok with that, you're good to go. The basics of history remain as they should, so you should be fine.
 
This show worth buying or renting on DVD? I've never watched an episode but I am a huge HBO series and history fan.
I would say it's definitely worth it.But as a history fan, they've taken several liberties with several facts. So as long as you're ok with that, you're good to go. The basics of history remain as they should, so you should be fine.
Thanks, I'll see if I can rent it. I might as well start in the beginning of season one though no?
 
While I really enjoy the rest of the show, the Atia/Servilia thing has gone from tedious, straight past boring, to stupid. I was kind of hoping the henchman would rape and kill both of them in the last episode. Servilia's hired assassin boy was more interesting of a character in the eight minutes of screen time that he got than Atia and Servilia have been combined for the entire length of the series.

 
Tremendous Upside said:
Apes with Guns said:
ooofffaaa said:
Apes with Guns said:
sad that this is the last season.
:headbang: The show seeems to be flying along this year. Anybody know how many episodes are left?

I guess it comes down to Antony/Octavian vs Brutus/Cassius?

Next week preview: Brutus is suppose to attack but is drawn into a trap because he does not know Octavian and Aantony are now allies. So more than likely while brutus attacks octavians forces, antony will flank him with his legions and break his lines. Meanwhile, pullo and veranus settle things in the city. I think they are going to knock off their all rivals so they can have undisputed control of the aventine. Should be a good episode.
i hate knowing how it ends. :shrug:
I think that's part of the reason I am more interested in the Vorenua/Pullo angles...The historical stuff is great, and very well done, but from a drama/suspense standpoint, knowing the history does take a bit away form it
I was thinking about how these two have been my favorite characters during the show. I think the guys that play these parts do a great job.
 
Tremendous Upside said:
Apes with Guns said:
ooofffaaa said:
Apes with Guns said:
sad that this is the last season.
:goodposting: The show seeems to be flying along this year. Anybody know how many episodes are left?

I guess it comes down to Antony/Octavian vs Brutus/Cassius?

Next week preview: Brutus is suppose to attack but is drawn into a trap because he does not know Octavian and Aantony are now allies. So more than likely while brutus attacks octavians forces, antony will flank him with his legions and break his lines. Meanwhile, pullo and veranus settle things in the city. I think they are going to knock off their all rivals so they can have undisputed control of the aventine. Should be a good episode.
i hate knowing how it ends. :shrug:
I think that's part of the reason I am more interested in the Vorenua/Pullo angles...The historical stuff is great, and very well done, but from a drama/suspense standpoint, knowing the history does take a bit away form it
I was thinking about how these two have been my favorite characters during the show. I think the guys that play these parts do a great job.
Agreed with this, I think the Pullo character is a lot of fun, but I really think the guy who play Vorenus has done a great job. At first, I thought his performance was too wooden, but that really is the character and the actor does a great job of staying stoic and just letting enough emotion out at the right times. Plus, when those two get pissed at you....look out.
 
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I guess I also don't understand the need to switch the actor who plays Octavian's character. I thought the kid (Max Pirkis) could probably pull it off.

The only really good parts of the last episode were:

Octavian ascending to the Consul's chair
Cicero's blunder of threatening Octavian with the army of Brutus and Cassius
Vorenus and Pullo resuming their duties and establishing the heirarchy orderThe Agrippa/Octavia thing is weak. Definitely not the best episode of the season.

 
I guess I also don't understand the need to switch the actor who plays Octavian's character. I thought the kid (Max Pirkis) could probably pull it off.

The only really good parts of the last episode were:

Octavian ascending to the Consul's chair
Cicero's blunder of threatening Octavian with the army of Brutus and Cassius
Vorenus and Pullo resuming their duties and establishing the heirarchy orderThe Agrippa/Octavia thing is weak. Definitely not the best episode of the season.
Wasn't there supposed to be a passage of time (3 - 4 years or so)? Maybe they did not feel that the younger actor could be physically portrayed in a way where it looked like he aged that much?
 
While I really enjoy the rest of the show, the Atia/Servilia thing has gone from tedious, straight past boring, to stupid. I was kind of hoping the henchman would rape and kill both of them in the last episode. Servilia's hired assassin boy was more interesting of a character in the eight minutes of screen time that he got than Atia and Servilia have been combined for the entire length of the series.
What makes this all the more annoying is that Atia died in 43 BC. So it's a HUGE historical anachronism to have her playing this big a role in political machinations she couldn't have had any hand in.I understand the reasoning, in that the show thinks that Polly Walker is their lead female, but Caesar was the lead last year. It's not like they don't have other female characters to focus on in Cleopatra and Octavia (who pretty much have to be the animating female characters for any story that climaxes at Actium).
 
I guess I also don't understand the need to switch the actor who plays Octavian's character. I thought the kid (Max Pirkis) could probably pull it off.

The only really good parts of the last episode were:

Octavian ascending to the Consul's chair
Cicero's blunder of threatening Octavian with the army of Brutus and Cassius
Vorenus and Pullo resuming their duties and establishing the heirarchy orderThe Agrippa/Octavia thing is weak. Definitely not the best episode of the season.
Wasn't there supposed to be a passage of time (3 - 4 years or so)? Maybe they did not feel that the younger actor could be physically portrayed in a way where it looked like he aged that much?
well maybe it would make sense if the new Octavian looked more like a man. but he doesn't. he looks softer and swishier than the boy version of Octavian. I agree with Shreks, there was no need to change actors if the end result was an Octavian that resembled more Jeff Garcia than Dog the Bounty Hunter.Plus, Octavian turns into a real hardass later in his life. He divorces wives the day they give birth, kills the child of Caesar/Cleopatra, shows no clemency after military defeat. I'm not sure they nailed his true character with this new actor at all. :mellow:

 
What makes this all the more annoying is that Atia died in 43 BC. So it's a HUGE historical anachronism to have her playing this big a role in political machinations she couldn't have had any hand in.
Hence one of my earlier posts. Plus, most history displays her in a much kinder light, not the witch she is in the series.And I don't think the real one was ever rumored to be with Mark Antony.
 
Plus, Octavian turns into a real hardass later in his life. He divorces wives the day they give birth, kills the child of Caesar/Cleopatra, shows no clemency after military defeat. I'm not sure they nailed his true character with this new actor at all. :sarcasm:
History has indicated few took Octavian (Augustus) seriously during his initial recapture of Rome. He was seen as a young, thin, naive Roman, but he proved to be very cunning.
 
Bevo said:
Wasn't there supposed to be a passage of time (3 - 4 years or so)? Maybe they did not feel that the younger actor could be physically portrayed in a way where it looked like he aged that much?
I'm sure that's why they made the switch but I could have suspended some belief in his physical appearance. I think Pirkis was good enough to pull off the more confident, assured Octavian. I've liked him in the series and he was already doing that to some extent at the end anyways. The new Octavian has taken me out of the scenes he's had with Pullo, Attia, and Octavia. The senate scene was the only time I partly got past it. I guess I could see it if they were going to portray a darker Octavian that GM mentions. If it's just a more mature Octavian I'm not crazy about the switch. Cicero was still mentioning his young age so it shouldn't have too big a factor.
 
Anyone catch last night's episode? The scene with Pullo and Cicero was pretty interesting, as was Octavia showing off her assets. :yawn:

 
Anyone catch last night's episode? The scene with Pullo and Cicero was pretty interesting, as was Octavia showing off her assets. :mellow:
I was amazed at how calmly Cicero accepted his fate. And Pullo carrid out the order like he was going to the grocery store for milk, even picked some peaches right before the deed.
 
Anyone catch last night's episode? The scene with Pullo and Cicero was pretty interesting, as was Octavia showing off her assets. :lmao:
I was amazed at how calmly Cicero accepted his fate. And Pullo carrid out the order like he was going to the grocery store for milk, even picked some peaches right before the deed.
I thought the whole thing was pretty amazing last night- but the going from family outing, to offing Cicero, back to family outing was pretty stunning. Pullo's character has been incredibly written and acted, IMO- he makes the show for me.What did you guys think of the battle scene?I'm really glad I don't remember my Roman history at all- makes for the series being full of suprises... kinda.
 
I thought that was one of, if not the best, episode of this series ever...

Just incredibly gripping from top to bottom...

Great acting, finally got to see a battle, Octavia was nekkid...

What more could we ask for?

 
Is anybody still watching this??
Yep! It is currently the only thing on TV (outside of sports) that I make a concerted effort to watch. I park my but in the lounger every Sunday night to watch it. I am eagerly awaiting the Sopranos, Deadwood, and Entourage to come back so I can add them to the very short list of TV shows worth watching. And it is about time for HBO to add a new series or two as these shows begin to wind down.
Big Love? :wall:
 
I thought that was one of, if not the best, episode of this series ever...Just incredibly gripping from top to bottom...Great acting, finally got to see a battle, Octavia was nekkid...What more could we ask for?
:cry: I liked the parallel between the deaths of Caesar and Brutus. Also, I enjoy the clarity with which the writers deal with fate and chance: Cicero accepting his death and his messenger losing his note because of a boy who, for all accounts, could just as easily be dead.
 
I'm beginning to wonder if the series will actually finish at Actium or not. The plot will have to advance significantly after this episode if it's to get there by the end of the season (and series, from all accounts). Why focus in on the Agrippa/Octavia angle if Antony is eventually going to end up with her?

It seems that they are trying to paint Octavian as indecisive and weaker than Antony. They must be setting up something.

BTW why is it that every historical drama has to have characters speaking in a British accent? If we are supposed to suspend disbelief, why do we have to accept that everyone in Rome spoke like Michael Caine?

 
Is anybody still watching this??
Yep! It is currently the only thing on TV (outside of sports) that I make a concerted effort to watch. I park my but in the lounger every Sunday night to watch it. I am eagerly awaiting the Sopranos, Deadwood, and Entourage to come back so I can add them to the very short list of TV shows worth watching. And it is about time for HBO to add a new series or two as these shows begin to wind down.
Big Love? :thumbup:
I am sure I will watch it but I don't like it as much as the others. I am disappointed with the numerous opportunities for nudity that are being bypassed. :thumbup:
 
GD HBO. :pickle:

Of course they don't play the next episode in February, so that they can extend subscriptions into March, and likely April for the finale, when, coincidentally, the last Sopranos episodes begin. I expect HBO probably won't air the last of the seven Sopranos episodes until November or so.

Anyway, here is the schedule (where applicable) and titles of the remaining episodes:

mytagid = Math.floor( Math.random() * 100 );document.write("

Season 2, Episode 7: Death Mask

Original Air Date: 25 February 2007

Next US airings:

Sun. Mar. 4 9:00 PM HBO

Mon. Mar. 5 9:00 PM HBO

Season 2, Episode 8: A Necessary Fiction

Original Air Date: 2007

Season 2, Episode 9: Deus Impeditio Esuritori Nullus

Original Air Date: 2007

Season 2, Episode 10: De Patre Vostro

Original Air Date: 2007 *** SPOILER ALERT! Click this link to display the potential spoiler text in this box. ***");document.close();

 
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GD HBO. :pickle: Of course they don't play the next episode in February, so that they can extend subscriptions into March, and likely April for the finale, when, coincidentally, the last Sopranos episodes begin. I expect HBO probably won't air the last of the seven Sopranos episodes until November or so.
Yeah, I wasn't really happy about that either (although they did post after last week's episode that there wouldn't be a new one this week). This isn't the first time they have done something like this, probably won't be the last.
 
FYI...they didnt play it so it wouldnt go up against the oscars
I could see them saying that, but it's :unsure: There are a lot of people who don't watch the Oscars. I would think that most people who are fans and followers of Rome would have watched the new episode. There still would have been time to watch another, what, 3 hours of the Oscars?
 
FYI...they didnt play it so it wouldnt go up against the oscars
I could see them saying that, but it's :confused: There are a lot of people who don't watch the Oscars. I would think that most people who are fans and followers of Rome would have watched the new episode. There still would have been time to watch another, what, 3 hours of the Oscars?
They could at least make it available On Demand. I imagine they still get ratings credit for that, no?
 
No, it was the Oscars that made them cancell last week's episode. The Ocsars draw a ton of viewers, and it's ratings death to go up against it. Yes, ratings matter to HBO, it's part of what they manage to charge carriers (cable and dish companies) to carry their service.

Back to that last episode, I was highly p1ssed at the complete departure from factual history for the Battle of Phillippi. They made it look like this one day battle of all 4 armies going through a valley into combat, and that is sooooo bogus! Antony and Octavian were NOT together at the beginning of the battle. There were three battles that went on for several days. When they did the battle between Ceasar and Pompey it was historically accurate, but the battle of Phillippi as depicted was a joke.

First, there was a naval battle won by Brutus' navy, which cut off the supply line for Octavian and Antony. Brutus wanted to starve them out, but was also, like Pompey, convinced to attack when it wasn't prudent. Then, Antony took several days to construct a road through an "impassable" swamp on Cassius' left flank. Once Cassius was aware of this, he left his formidable defensive position to attack Antony head on, and lost.

To the north, Brutus routed Octavian's army the same day. Cassius was wrongly informed that Brutus had also lost the day, and had his slave kill him. He did not die in battle as depicted. Brutus marched south, and then the combined forces of Antony and Octavian were too much to defend against. Then, Brutus upon hearing of Cassius' suicde, also had his slave kill him. He hardly ran into an army of Roman soldiers and went down fighting.

I do really like the Pullo-Verinus aspect of the show.... but keep the creatrive writing there, not when it comes to how famous figures like Brutus died. Aside from that, Brutus' wife was far more influential in this portion of history, and from the show one would think he was never married. The first season kept some modicum of aligning itself with history, this year, it's more fiction than fact. So, in that regard, it is more like a soap opera to me, which is disappointing.

Verinus' eldest daughter is clearly going to cause havoc. Pullo's depression about not being a soldier looks like it may not be a problem, with him being an expectant father. Yeah, the kid who played Octavian should have been kept. His replacement is weak, amoung a cast of actors who are otherwise really outstanding. I also like the guy playing Agrippa. Can't wait for tomorrow's show, despite my disappointment in the last episode.

 
Anyone else disappointed with that darker than dark side episode? There isn't a character in the whole series that isn't all screwed up at this point. Every character has reason to be miserable and/or in trouble. I think the writers must have been suicidal when they wrote this one. Talk about depressing. This season has so far been a major disappointment to me, anyways.

 
Anyone else disappointed with that darker than dark side episode? There isn't a character in the whole series that isn't all screwed up at this point. Every character has reason to be miserable and/or in trouble. I think the writers must have been suicidal when they wrote this one. Talk about depressing. This season has so far been a major disappointment to me, anyways.
:eek: Had the stink of a jumped shark, that one. Hmmm... let's show some people happy just so we can #### with them next week. Only thing I liked was Antony's reaction to Brutus' mom.
 
The best part was Antony telling Octavia, "Well if you wouldn't mind rolling over then..."

The worst part of the episode was that the knife the Jewish brothers were going to use to stab Herod with wasn't pointed at both ends, and only one of them died. Now we'll have to continue to follow one of them. :boxing:

 

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