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Romo looks top 5 to me (1 Viewer)

Few things to note from last nights game1) 2 of Ogletree's TDs were against the Giants #5 CB. His third was against the Giants #6 CB. The guy wasn't doing anything magical... he was running straight ahead and Tryon was still blowing the coverage. Romo didn't do anything "outstanding" all of his big plays were on blown coverage's. The Giants played like trash.2) These replacement ref's are trash. Almost every single offensive snap by the Cowboys had blatant holding on it, Romo dancing around in the backfield on almost every play etc. the only reason he wasn't sacked on half of them was holding. O-Lineman just shoving JPP or Tuck in the back and them falling to the ground with nothing being called. JPP had people wrapping entire arms around his neck with no calls. This went on all night. The big run that Murray broke there was probably about 5 different instances of holding on that one play alone. Once the real refs get back and they can't resort to holding on every single play that O-Line will look even worse than it did last night. Kiwanuka made a statement last night simply saying "I haven't been held this much since I was a baby". Jim Core the "Head Ref" for the night is some D3 ref. They said last night the last game he ref'd for had 1400 people in the stands. The Cowboys winning the game means little to me as if/when the real Refs come back they better hope that line has figured out how to play football. Cause even with the holdings Romo was running for his life on every play. Without the holdings I'd be shocked if he through a single TD all night.
sounds like someone was a little upset about last nights game
 
Here are Romo's per game rankings for pass attempts and his final QB ranking (using FBG scoring) over the last 5 seasons

11 - 18th; played 16 games and finished QB7.

10 - Dind't Qualify; Injured

09 - 7th; played 16 games and finished QB6.

08 - 6th; played 13 games and finished QB9.

07 - 12th; played 16 games and finished QB2.

This shows me that...

1. Romo definitely has the necessary talent to finish top-5; he already has once and has been close twice. The season he finished QB9 (2008), he was actually the 6th best QB in PPG (of QBs that qualified).

2. He has finished equal to or higher in his final QB ranking than pass attempts every season he has qualified.

3. Even though he didn't qualify in 2010 (only played 6 games) and looked horrible in real life, he was actually on pace for 382/550, 4142 yards and 28/18. Those numbers would have made him QB7 in 2010.

Given that he is able to stay healthy and in the top half of the league in attempts, a top-10 finish is almost guaranteed, and a top-5 is a definite possibility.

 
Stop the press! Romo is a good fantasy QB! :eek:
Right on. Romo has always been a good fantasy QB and last night he got to pass against a group of DBs that would normally be on the practice squad if NYG didn't have so many injuries. He should have had a top 5 night and did. It's that simple. I don't think he is top 5 all season though. Probably top 10.
 
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:lmao: I love these threads after 0.3% of the NFL games have been played
It's the Effing season opener and you are bothered by threads that are started to talk about it? It's kind of what everyone has been waiting on since Feb.
And besides that, it's 6.25% of the games played. He wasn't even close.
1) I'm not amused by the fact there is discussion. I'm amused by the overreaction. OMG Romo is top 5! OMG Ogletree is a stud! etc. 2) there are a lot more than 16 games this year.... contrary to cowboys fans belief, they are not the only team playing on sunday. Believe it or not... there are actually 15 more games to go this weekend :o :eek:
 
I dont get why some people act like the Top 5 QBs are set in stone. No one though Cam would be top 5, and while there were many reasons to be high on Stafford, I doubt many would have bet he'd finish Top 5 as well. Those guys are all going to come back to earth a bit, and with Romo having the best RB to date, Ogretree possibly emerging, and the rest of his weapons with no major injuries, there is no reason to think that Romo cant have a career year. If the DAL D is as good as it looked yesterday, their opponents TOP will likely be pretty low, and DAL will be pretty high, just another thing working in his favor.

Even if he doesnt finish Top 5, I think he's going to make people who took Ryan in the 3rd-4th round look pretty stupid when he puts up similar numbers.

Im still shocked I got Romo in the 9th round in 2 leagues.

 
BTW, big fat LOL for all those guys drafting Eli, Rivers, and Peyton over Romo, which I would say was about 70% of the FF community.
They are all guys that give you a chance at the top 5 and can be had in the middle rounds. They're all going to have 300/3 outings, but that just isn't very special these days. I don't see where the gloating is coming from.
It's not gloating, it's me giving Romo his props after seeing him get ridiculed all offseason for no legitimate reason. You go for the sure thing in fantasy unless something you see on film gives u a reason to think otherwise. Statistically, Romo has NEVER given us a reason to doubt him in fantasy. Rivers gave us a reason to doubt him last year. Peyton got hurt last year. Eli's only significant fantasy season in his 8 (or 9?) year career was 2011. I put Matt Ryan in the same category as these guys because he's not as proven as Romo, although the upside this year is immense. This isn't a Week 1 knee-jerk reaction. I've been saying this all summer to anyone who's asked me for draft advice.
 
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I dont get why some people act like the Top 5 QBs are set in stone. No one though Cam would be top 5, and while there were many reasons to be high on Stafford, I doubt many would have bet he'd finish Top 5 as well. Those guys are all going to come back to earth a bit, and with Romo having the best RB to date, Ogretree possibly emerging, and the rest of his weapons with no major injuries, there is no reason to think that Romo cant have a career year. If the DAL D is as good as it looked yesterday, their opponents TOP will likely be pretty low, and DAL will be pretty high, just another thing working in his favor.

Even if he doesnt finish Top 5, I think he's going to make people who took Ryan in the 3rd-4th round look pretty stupid when he puts up similar numbers.

Im still shocked I got Romo in the 9th round in 2 leagues.
This is a good point. Unless he turns into Aaron Rodgers, Ryan is going to either have to have 80-100 more attempts this year, or add another 12-15 TDs to his totals. I'm not saying that I don't think it's possible, I just am not seeing why people are seeming to expect this.
 
Prior to this game, Romo had a stat line of 1,000 yards, 9 TDs and 1INT in his last three games vs. NYG. This is how this #### usually plays out for Romo, nice job jumping the gun.

 
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Romo seems to be a great value in fantasy drafts yearly. I know he can miss a few games at times. The Cowboys did spend some high picks on o-lineman. He has quality WR/TE's and a young stud back. I am pretty happy with what a saw. Will it continue?
Other then Smith....who are we talking about?
 
'sspunisher said:
'Reepicheep said:
'sspunisher said:
BTW, big fat LOL for all those guys drafting Eli, Rivers, and Peyton over Romo, which I would say was about 70% of the FF community.
They are all guys that give you a chance at the top 5 and can be had in the middle rounds. They're all going to have 300/3 outings, but that just isn't very special these days. I don't see where the gloating is coming from.
It's not gloating, it's me giving Romo his props after seeing him get ridiculed all offseason for no legitimate reason. You go for the sure thing in fantasy unless something you see on film gives u a reason to think otherwise. Statistically, Romo has NEVER given us a reason to doubt him in fantasy. Rivers gave us a reason to doubt him last year. Peyton got hurt last year. Eli's only significant fantasy season in his 8 (or 9?) year career was 2011. I put Matt Ryan in the same category as these guys because he's not as proven as Romo, although the upside this year is immense. This isn't a Week 1 knee-jerk reaction. I've been saying this all summer to anyone who's asked me for draft advice.
I had him last year -- pretty sure I can think of one time.....
 
Few things to note from last nights game1) 2 of Ogletree's TDs were against the Giants #5 CB. His third was against the Giants #6 CB. The guy wasn't doing anything magical... he was running straight ahead and Tryon was still blowing the coverage. Romo didn't do anything "outstanding" all of his big plays were on blown coverage's. The Giants played like trash.2) These replacement ref's are trash. Almost every single offensive snap by the Cowboys had blatant holding on it, Romo dancing around in the backfield on almost every play etc. the only reason he wasn't sacked on half of them was holding. O-Lineman just shoving JPP or Tuck in the back and them falling to the ground with nothing being called. JPP had people wrapping entire arms around his neck with no calls. This went on all night. The big run that Murray broke there was probably about 5 different instances of holding on that one play alone. Once the real refs get back and they can't resort to holding on every single play that O-Line will look even worse than it did last night. Kiwanuka made a statement last night simply saying "I haven't been held this much since I was a baby". Jim Core the "Head Ref" for the night is some D3 ref. They said last night the last game he ref'd for had 1400 people in the stands. The Cowboys winning the game means little to me as if/when the real Refs come back they better hope that line has figured out how to play football. Cause even with the holdings Romo was running for his life on every play. Without the holdings I'd be shocked if he through a single TD all night.
wow, really? you realize there's holding on every play right? So every offensive play by the vagiants you could prolly find a hold as well. Sounds like all you were doing was watching for giant players getting held. well, you missed a hell of a performance by Romo.
 
Romo seems to be a great value in fantasy drafts yearly. I know he can miss a few games at times. The Cowboys did spend some high picks on o-lineman. He has quality WR/TE's and a young stud back. I am pretty happy with what a saw. Will it continue?
Not next week.
you sure about that? the hawks lost 4 of 8 at home last year and Dallas beat them in Big D. And the hawks are starting a rookie QB. And the Cowboys have 11 days between games. And the Cowboys just went into the heart of the beast and came out with a win.
 
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I don't remember a thread being started when he posted essentially the EXACT same stat lines the last three times he's faced NYG. The only difference this time around is that he actually won. How does that effect fantasy?

 
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'JuniorNB said:
:lmao: I love these threads after 0.3% of the NFL games have been played
It's the Effing season opener and you are bothered by threads that are started to talk about it? It's kind of what everyone has been waiting on since Feb.
And besides that, it's 6.25% of the games played. He wasn't even close.
1) I'm not amused by the fact there is discussion. I'm amused by the overreaction. OMG Romo is top 5! OMG Ogletree is a stud! etc. 2) there are a lot more than 16 games this year.... contrary to cowboys fans belief, they are not the only team playing on sunday. Believe it or not... there are actually 15 more games to go this weekend :o :eek:
And how many have been played right now? Wonder why it's getting the attention :o
 
You know what cracks me up? How everyone was already giving the giants the game before it was played. And then when the Cowboys win on a great performance by Romo, its disregarded because the giants DB's were "practice squad guys", and the Cowboys linemen were "holding every play".

I mean how could JPP and tuck not get to Romo every play? must be gettin held!

####### laughable!

To answer the OP. Who knows? Some of us waited on QB and got the likes of Romo and Cutler. Its a long season, but I'm willing to bet these guys will prove to be value picks.

 
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+1 to Toomer (on QB skills alone)

Eli is only better in last ten minutes of games (which unfortunately for Romo makes him a better QB in most everyone's eyes)

 
I don't remember a thread being started when he posted essentially the EXACT same stat lines the last three times he's faced NYG. The only difference this time around is that he actually won. How does that effect fantasy?
Well, the last 3 times he's faced NYG werent all away games, and they definitely werent all the first game NYG played coming off a super bowl victory.
 
He certainly could finish top 5, been a stud fantasy QB for a few years.

I have him "ranked" 8 tied with Eli..

(not my personal rankings but gathered)

Then these are what he'd have to do better than to crack top 5.

Matt Ryan at 7

Michael Vick at 6

Cam Newton at 5

Matthew Stafford at 4

I Expect him to finish higher than Eli/Ryan/Newton

If Vick stays healthy I see Vick higher, same with Stafford.

So that makes him 6 on my board, with a chance to pass Vick/Stafford..

Then Yah I see where he could finish Top 5, him, Vick an Stafford 4,5,6

with any of them finishing in any order if one keeps there head together.

 
Eh, I still view Romo along the same lines of Rivers, Cutler, Eli and Peyton.... you can predict close to top 5 for either imo...

 
'JuniorNB said:
:lmao: I love these threads after 0.3% of the NFL games have been played
It's the Effing season opener and you are bothered by threads that are started to talk about it? It's kind of what everyone has been waiting on since Feb.
And besides that, it's 6.25% of the games played. He wasn't even close.
Actually 0.195% games played. There's more than 16 NFL regular season games.
 
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'JuniorNB said:
:lmao: I love these threads after 0.3% of the NFL games have been played
It's the Effing season opener and you are bothered by threads that are started to talk about it? It's kind of what everyone has been waiting on since Feb.
And besides that, it's 6.25% of the games played. He wasn't even close.
Actually 0.195% games played. There's more than 16 NFL regular season games.
Actually, .390625% of games played. Two teams per game. :nerd:
 
'JuniorNB said:
:lmao: I love these threads after 0.3% of the NFL games have been played
It's the Effing season opener and you are bothered by threads that are started to talk about it? It's kind of what everyone has been waiting on since Feb.
And besides that, it's 6.25% of the games played. He wasn't even close.
Actually 0.195% games played. There's more than 16 NFL regular season games.
Actually, .390625% of games played. Two teams per game. :nerd:
Just to clarify, the percentage of team games played and NFL games played will always be the same, unless some team manages to play a game against nobody and get it in the books. (2/512 == 1/256 == .0039)In any case, .39% of NFL games have been played, and 6.25% of Cowboys games have been played.
 
Romo seems to be a great value in fantasy drafts yearly. I know he can miss a few games at times. The Cowboys did spend some high picks on o-lineman. He has quality WR/TE's and a young stud back. I am pretty happy with what a saw. Will it continue?
Not next week.
you sure about that? the hawks lost 4 of 8 at home last year and Dallas beat them in Big D. And the hawks are starting a rookie QB. And the Cowboys have 11 days between games. And the Cowboys just went into the heart of the beast and came out with a win.
"heart of the beast".... Gmen were 9-7 in the regular season last year and have been a poor home team. Hawks are probably one of the most improved teams in the NFL this year and their D will be top 5. So yes, he's not going to do nearly as well as he did against the GMEN .... Good luck coming into century link next week. I wouldn't start ROMO....he will be lucky to last the game. Hawks will beat the Boys next week, BOOK IT.

 
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Romo seems to be a great value in fantasy drafts yearly. I know he can miss a few games at times. The Cowboys did spend some high picks on o-lineman. He has quality WR/TE's and a young stud back. I am pretty happy with what a saw. Will it continue?
Not next week.
you sure about that? the hawks lost 4 of 8 at home last year and Dallas beat them in Big D. And the hawks are starting a rookie QB. And the Cowboys have 11 days between games. And the Cowboys just went into the heart of the beast and came out with a win.
"heart of the beast".... Gmen were 9-7 in the regular season last year and have been a poor home team. Hawks are probably one of the most improved teams in the NFL this year and their D will be top 5. So yes, he's not going to do nearly as well as he did against the GMEN .... Good luck coming into century link next week. I wouldn't start ROMO....he will be lucky to last the game. Hawks will beat the Boys next week, BOOK IT.
You might wanna beat Arizona before making proclamations like this
 
For the Giant supporters who think that Romo made his mark exploiting the backup CBs, here's a statline for you.

Corey Webster, Giants #1 CB. Targeted 7 times, 6 completions, 145 yards, and a TD. 21 YPA. This is to say that about a third of Romo's completions and TDs, as well as almost half his yards, were against the #1 CB.

 
For the Giant supporters who think that Romo made his mark exploiting the backup CBs, here's a statline for you.Corey Webster, Giants #1 CB. Targeted 7 times, 6 completions, 145 yards, and a TD. 21 YPA. This is to say that about a third of Romo's completions and TDs, as well as almost half his yards, were against the #1 CB.
Cool story, but sherm the worm doesn't care.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sjNcN3iUxU
 
For the Giant supporters who think that Romo made his mark exploiting the backup CBs, here's a statline for you.Corey Webster, Giants #1 CB. Targeted 7 times, 6 completions, 145 yards, and a TD. 21 YPA. This is to say that about a third of Romo's completions and TDs, as well as almost half his yards, were against the #1 CB.
:goodposting:
 
+1 to Toomer (on QB skills alone)

Eli's team has two Superbowls (which unfortunately for Romo makes him a better QB in most everyone's eyes)
Fixed for ya.The prior was a misconception which has been disproven through many statistics.

 
Romo seems to be a great value in fantasy drafts yearly. I know he can miss a few games at times. The Cowboys did spend some high picks on o-lineman. He has quality WR/TE's and a young stud back. I am pretty happy with what a saw. Will it continue?
Not next week.
you sure about that? the hawks lost 4 of 8 at home last year and Dallas beat them in Big D. And the hawks are starting a rookie QB. And the Cowboys have 11 days between games. And the Cowboys just went into the heart of the beast and came out with a win.
"heart of the beast".... Gmen were 9-7 in the regular season last year and have been a poor home team. Hawks are probably one of the most improved teams in the NFL this year and their D will be top 5. So yes, he's not going to do nearly as well as he did against the GMEN .... Good luck coming into century link next week. I wouldn't start ROMO....he will be lucky to last the game. Hawks will beat the Boys next week, BOOK IT.

you need to remove your homer goggles for a second and check back in with reality. We all know about the 12th man, but Romo's not a rookie. It wont bother him. See last weeks game. There is still a homefield advantage there, but I think it's overblown.

You're so high on the hawks D, you forget about D.Ware and co. against rookie QB russell wilson. When Ware is chasin him around and he throws up a pass we have a secondary who can close on receivers and make a play. And who's catchin balls in seattle? rice and edwards? woopity doo. This isnt the same crappy D we've had the last few yrs.

When wilson decides to run, We've got Bruce Carter and Sean Lee to chase him down. Lee is the real deal, and Carter can get from sideline to sideline, and make a play.

Honestly, this game shapes up to be a great defensive battle, with Dallas having the edge on offense, and the seahags getting a boost for being at home. I could see it going either way, but with a rookie at QB for the hags, I'm saying Dallas 24-13.

Oh, and the hags are only -2.5 at ARZ. You might wanna not wanna overlook this game on your way to 2-0 :mellow:

 
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Romo seems to be a great value in fantasy drafts yearly. I know he can miss a few games at times. The Cowboys did spend some high picks on o-lineman. He has quality WR/TE's and a young stud back. I am pretty happy with what a saw. Will it continue?
Not next week.
you sure about that? the hawks lost 4 of 8 at home last year and Dallas beat them in Big D. And the hawks are starting a rookie QB. And the Cowboys have 11 days between games. And the Cowboys just went into the heart of the beast and came out with a win.
"heart of the beast".... Gmen were 9-7 in the regular season last year and have been a poor home team. Hawks are probably one of the most improved teams in the NFL this year and their D will be top 5. So yes, he's not going to do nearly as well as he did against the GMEN .... Good luck coming into century link next week. I wouldn't start ROMO....he will be lucky to last the game. Hawks will beat the Boys next week, BOOK IT.

you need to remove your homer goggles for a second and check back in with reality. We all know about the 12th man, but Romo's not a rookie. It wont bother him. See last weeks game. There is still a homefield advantage there, but I think it's overblown.

You're so high on the hawks D, you forget about D.Ware and co. against rookie QB russell wilson. When Ware is chasin him around and he throws up a pass we have a secondary who can close on receivers and make a play. And who's catchin balls in seattle? rice and edwards? woopity doo. This isnt the same crappy D we've had the last few yrs.

When wilson decides to run, We've got Bruce Carter and Sean Lee to chase him down. Lee is the real deal, and Carter can get from sideline to sideline, and make a play.

Honestly, this game shapes up to be a great defensive battle, with Dallas having the edge on offense, and the seahags getting a boost for being at home. I could see it going either way, but with a rookie at QB for the hags, I'm saying Dallas 24-13.

Oh, and the hags are only -2.5 at ARZ. You might wanna not wanna overlook this game on your way to 2-0 :mellow:
What?
When wilson decides to run, We've got Bruce Carter and Sean Lee to chase him down. Lee is the real deal, and Carter can get from sideline to sideline, and make a play.
Oh, Sean Lee....meet Golden Tate.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amm7KnYb2gU

 
He is who we thought he was.

Romo has always been a tease. Both to his fantasy owners and to Cowboy fans. Just when people start writing him off as average, he'll have a game or two where everyone thinks he's turned the corner and is headed to the upper tier of QBs, then he'll crash down to earth and the whole cycle continues.

 
what do you want scientist? your team won congrats.........you're still annoying and golden taint hasnt done chit in his career and he acts like he won the SB when he makes a block or gets a 1st down. Looks like your division isnt full of patsies like you thought. chickens still might finish 3rd

 
what do you want scientist? your team won congrats.........you're still annoying and golden taint hasnt done chit in his career and he acts like he won the SB when he makes a block or gets a 1st down. Looks like your division isnt full of patsies like you thought. chickens still might finish 3rd
How bout them cowgirls!!
 
He is who we thought he was.Romo has always been a tease. Both to his fantasy owners and to Cowboy fans. Just when people start writing him off as average, he'll have a game or two where everyone thinks he's turned the corner and is headed to the upper tier of QBs, then he'll crash down to earth and the whole cycle continues.
Two things:-It's only been two weeks.-He's outscored Rodgers both weeks.Seattle got lucky with that punt block TD and their defense is pretty good. Romo did not have a good game, completing only 57.5% of his passes, but 251/1/1 is not the end of the world. Good to see he seems to have a good connection with Austin again. I only landed him in one league bc he slipped, but I'm pretty happy with him so far.
 
He is who we thought he was.

Romo has always been a tease. Both to his fantasy owners and to Cowboy fans. Just when people start writing him off as average, he'll have a game or two where everyone thinks he's turned the corner and is headed to the upper tier of QBs, then he'll crash down to earth and the whole cycle continues.
Two things:-It's only been two weeks.

Solid observation

-He's outscored Rodgers both weeks.

So has everyone else who had a good week 1.
 
what do you want scientist? your team won congrats.........you're still annoying and golden taint hasnt done chit in his career and he acts like he won the SB when he makes a block or gets a 1st down. Looks like your division isnt full of patsies like you thought. chickens still might finish 3rd
How bout them cowgirls!!
yea, i'm gonna go down to the casino and get my money on the hawks for the Super Bowl! They are a lock to win the NFC West, and should breeze through the playoffs.Its a long season, and my team may not make the playoffs, but im bettin the hawks will still finish around .500. and you will still be a tool. a tool scientist to be exact. good luck with that.the fact that you put the golden taint block on Sean Lee in you sig proves you are a tool. it was a crackback on a guy who didnt know it was coming. i guess you gotta hang your hat on something when you are a franchise who hasnt done anything ever and has a giant chip on your shoulder.
 
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what do you want scientist? your team won congrats.........you're still annoying and golden taint hasnt done chit in his career and he acts like he won the SB when he makes a block or gets a 1st down. Looks like your division isnt full of patsies like you thought. chickens still might finish 3rd
How bout them cowgirls!!
yea, i'm gonna go down to the casino and get my money on the hawks for the Super Bowl! They are a lock to win the NFC West, and should breeze through the playoffs.Its a long season, and my team may not make the playoffs, but im bettin the hawks will still finish around .500. and you will still be a tool. a tool scientist to be exact. good luck with that.the fact that you put the golden taint block on Sean Lee in you sig proves you are a tool. it was a crackback on a guy who didnt know it was coming. i guess you gotta hang your hat on something when you are a franchise who hasnt done anything ever and has a giant chip on your shoulder.
When all else fails turn to childish name calling. :rolleyes:
 
Did anyone watch the game? Was there alot of pressure in Romo's face? If it wasn't for Dallas's horrible offensive line, Romo could be a top 5 but that line sucks. When they can't get Murry going like last week, it gives opposing defenses to tee-off on Romo.

 
what do you want scientist? your team won congrats.........you're still annoying and golden taint hasnt done chit in his career and he acts like he won the SB when he makes a block or gets a 1st down. Looks like your division isnt full of patsies like you thought. chickens still might finish 3rd
How bout them cowgirls!!
yea, i'm gonna go down to the casino and get my money on the hawks for the Super Bowl! They are a lock to win the NFC West, and should breeze through the playoffs.Its a long season, and my team may not make the playoffs, but im bettin the hawks will still finish around .500. and you will still be a tool. a tool scientist to be exact. good luck with that.

the fact that you put the golden taint block on Sean Lee in you sig proves you are a tool. it was a crackback on a guy who didnt know it was coming. i guess you gotta hang your hat on something when you are a franchise who hasnt done anything ever and has a giant chip on your shoulder.
When all else fails turn to childish name calling. :rolleyes:
how ironic given your bolded post above :lmao:
 
Did anyone watch the game? Was there alot of pressure in Romo's face? If it wasn't for Dallas's horrible offensive line, Romo could be a top 5 but that line sucks. When they can't get Murry going like last week, it gives opposing defenses to tee-off on Romo.
the Seattle D played great, they were the better team yesterday. Romo had no more pressure than he did in Week 1, but Seattle secondary closed quick on many throws.
 

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