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flapgreen
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Not sure of anyone thinking he's the next Marino but I agreen with you. It's just what the media does with these things. A guy gets hot and they cling to him like there's no one else, especially when he's a Cowboy. The media always wants to find something good they can say about the Cowboys, regardless of what's happening(TO not included).
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
Romo is leading the NFL in completion percentage (66.3), yards per attempt (8.8) and QB rating (98.4). I'm not sure what your standard is but by mine, he's had a lot more than one outstanding game.Next Marino? No. But Tony Romo entered the season as an unheralded nobody from Eastern Illinois who had never thrown an NFL pass. He has now unseated a veteran with a long track record to become the NFL's best passer statistically, and his struggling team is now playoff-bound. This is the most fascinating QB story in the league since Kurt Warner, and it deserves all the attention it's getting.
Traders2001
Footballguy
AGrred totally , he had that 5 TD game and now he is nt the next Marino but the next Favre .
You know what by end of next season he wont be starting anymore.
You know what by end of next season he wont be starting anymore.
I hate the Cowboys and even I believe this is true.
zamboni
Footballguy
I don't see anywhere in which people are comparing him to Marino, but you have to give Romo credit considering how he's performed. And with so much at stake for the team, it's that much more commendable.Emmitt Smith
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They are?First 5 games started:Andrew Walter: 58/116 735y 3TD 6INT 57.2Bruce Gradkowski: 96/180 837y 6TD 1INT 74.7 Matt Leinart: 63/182 1061y 5TD 6INT 50.6 Vince Young: 59/125 629y 4TD 6INT 53.0 Jason Campbell: 76/150 917y 7TD 5INT 71.4 Phil Rivers: 99/144 1064y 7TD 2INT 100.6 Tony Romo: 125/180 1394y 10TD 2INT 106.1Guess which 2 are going to the Pro Bowl?
Warpig
Footballguy
He's better than Bledsoe and did provide a spark to that team.
But I do totally agree that he is overrated. The two weeks prior to last week he came back down to Earth again. I don't foresee many more 4 or 5 TD games out of him.
Marion Barber is the second coming of Moe Williams.
But I do totally agree that he is overrated. The two weeks prior to last week he came back down to Earth again. I don't foresee many more 4 or 5 TD games out of him.
Marion Barber is the second coming of Moe Williams.
Seriously, is this conversation for real?
"Yeh, you know, Romo just isnt going to throw for 350 yards, 5 TDs every week. Maybe once or twice a year, but the rest of the time we're talking 2 and 250. Yawn"
Take a look at that guy in Indianapolis's game to game stats. I dont believe he throws 5 TDs every week.
I think there is a team or two in the NFL that would kill for the 'down to earth' version of Romo.
"Yeh, you know, Romo just isnt going to throw for 350 yards, 5 TDs every week. Maybe once or twice a year, but the rest of the time we're talking 2 and 250. Yawn"
Take a look at that guy in Indianapolis's game to game stats. I dont believe he throws 5 TDs every week.
I think there is a team or two in the NFL that would kill for the 'down to earth' version of Romo.
chuckmorris
Footballguy
corpcow
Footballguy
Dude, it was Bledsoe. A statue behind an o-line who couldn't protect him, with a lot of offensive talent. Let's keep it real here - he didn't "unseat" him so much as Bledsoe sucked
I'll admit he's had a good run, but I think the point is it's a little early to elect him to the HOF. Things change quickly in this league. It wasn't so long ago that Gradkowski looked pretty good.Oh, and let me end with my obligatory cry of "TO-NY HO-MO".
you guys are absolutely nuts
Its not Romo's fault that the media is all over him. The guy is humble as hell and has never said once that he's the next big thing or he's great. Parcells knocks him down every chance he gets. Don't hate on a guy because the talking heads latch onto him. There are probably 25 other teams in the NFL right now wishing they had Tony Romo under center this week
Its not Romo's fault that the media is all over him. The guy is humble as hell and has never said once that he's the next big thing or he's great. Parcells knocks him down every chance he gets. Don't hate on a guy because the talking heads latch onto him. There are probably 25 other teams in the NFL right now wishing they had Tony Romo under center this week
Note: Admitted Cowboys homer.
Yes, Romo is that good. Look at his numbers on the season; on a per-game basis.
Att - 31
Comp - 20
Yds - 271
TDs - 1.8
Int - 1.1
That would project to a full season stats of:
Att - 496
Comp - 320
Yds - 4336
TDs - 29
Int - 17
Those numbers would get him in the pro bowl regardless of what team he played.
However, those aren't even Romo's most telling numbers.
8.84 - That's his yards per attempt. Drew "Posiible MVP" Brees is seconf best in the league at an average of 8.2 yards per attempt. The bottom line is the guy can throw the ball downfield. That is a major factor seperating the top-tier QBs (McNabb, palmer, Brady, Brees, Manning...) from the rest of the pack.
72.2 - That's his completion percentage on third downs; a truly amazing stat. The Cowboys have clinched a playoff spot because they have an offense that can move the ball and hasn't been sputtering on third downs; unlike when Bledsoe wa at the helm.
86.8 - Romo's QB rating when behind. Although it's 10 points less than his overall rating, it proves he can handle pressure and doesn't fold or make stupid mistakes when trailing.
I was not a believer in the beginning; I was glad they benched Bledsoe, but had no clue that Romo would be 50% of what he is. We haven't had a QB this good since Aikman.
to the haters.
Yes, Romo is that good. Look at his numbers on the season; on a per-game basis.
Att - 31
Comp - 20
Yds - 271
TDs - 1.8
Int - 1.1
That would project to a full season stats of:
Att - 496
Comp - 320
Yds - 4336
TDs - 29
Int - 17
Those numbers would get him in the pro bowl regardless of what team he played.
However, those aren't even Romo's most telling numbers.
8.84 - That's his yards per attempt. Drew "Posiible MVP" Brees is seconf best in the league at an average of 8.2 yards per attempt. The bottom line is the guy can throw the ball downfield. That is a major factor seperating the top-tier QBs (McNabb, palmer, Brady, Brees, Manning...) from the rest of the pack.
72.2 - That's his completion percentage on third downs; a truly amazing stat. The Cowboys have clinched a playoff spot because they have an offense that can move the ball and hasn't been sputtering on third downs; unlike when Bledsoe wa at the helm.
86.8 - Romo's QB rating when behind. Although it's 10 points less than his overall rating, it proves he can handle pressure and doesn't fold or make stupid mistakes when trailing.
I was not a believer in the beginning; I was glad they benched Bledsoe, but had no clue that Romo would be 50% of what he is. We haven't had a QB this good since Aikman.
to the haters.
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diesel7982
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And you can see Grad is probably in the best O. Romo sat for a lot longer than who you're comparing him to. And yes, until a team can get some tape the QB has an advantage. You see the team that got Romo the best was NO who's HC coached him and knew his flaws.
Mustang Man
Footballguy
Yeah really people saying he has had one good game. Man I tell you and saying that the media only wants to report on good things that happen to the them. Get it straight the media will always overdue any news from the Cowboys good or bad cause there are ton of people that love or hate them. Romo is a great story and a possible great future. Fact is you are just a hater and that is that. ROMO'S STATS ________________________ int-tdNYG L 22-36 73.7 14 25 227 9.1 53 2 3 bad game- came in off the bench and just did not have a good feel. bad gameCAR W 35-14 86.6 24 36 270 7.5 28 1 1 d tore Carolina up in the second half GOOD GAMEWAS L 19-22 109.0 24 36 284 7.9 48 0 2 GOOD game in a hostile nfc east rivalry game took them down the field for a game winning fg attempt that was blocked . He did all he could to win that game GOOD GAMEARI W 27-10 126.8 20 29 308 10.6 51 0 2 whata you know another GOOD GAME Crushed this teamIND W 21-14 89.5 19 23 226 9.8 33 1 0 one incompletion in the second half and he made all the throws when he had to. I was there for this game and he made one bad throw all game. No td's but that was the game plan to wear the Colts down and run in the red zone. GOOD GAME TAM W 38-10 148.9 22 29 306 10.6 45 0 5 He could have easily had 6td's but Parcells called the dogs off. GOOD GAME@ NYG W 23-20 58.1 20 34 257 7.6 42 2 0 he made some bad mistakes in this game but when it was on the line ask the Giants about that bomb to Witten for the game clinching fg. BAD GAME He has that extra something that makes him a winner even in bad performances.NOR L 17-42 58.8 16 33 249 7.5 50 2 1 this was a bad game for the whole team. NO kicked ### and this game was not all on Romo as the whole team just got spanked. Hmm I wonder how ROMO will bounce back after such a game in a huge game on the road vs a team needing to win for their playoff lives. BAD GAME@ ATL W 38-28 113.9 22 29 278 9.6 51 1 2 well here is your answer. He came back very good and just won baby GOOD GAMEYEAH they are some terrible stats int td's98.4 183 276 2440 8.8 53 10 16So by my count he had 3 bad games 1 win 2 losses6 good games 5 wins 1 lossAnyway you look at it he has put the COWBOYS back in contention. Before he came into the lineup the Cowboys were on their way to a 6-10 season. Lovem hatem does not matter just don't talk crap when it is obvious he is doing a good job.STUPID #### COWBOY HATERSAh, the smell of Haterism.
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Mustang Man
Footballguy
Hey if he can win a Super Bowl I would not mind
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Grad is probably in the best O? Do you mean Gradkowski?Jesus H Christ man, do you even know who Rivers or Leinart play for?
redman
Footballguy
Here's his stats from his starts only:Note: Admitted Cowboys homer.Yes, Romo is that good. Look at his numbers on the season; on a per-game basis.Att - 31Comp - 20Yds - 271TDs - 1.8Int - 1.1That would project to a full season stats of:Att - 496Comp - 320Yds - 4336TDs - 29Int - 17Those numbers would get him in the pro bowl regardless of what team he played.However, those aren't even Romo's most telling numbers.8.84 - That's his yards per attempt. Drew "Posiible MVP" Brees is seconf best in the league at an average of 8.2 yards per attempt. The bottom line is the guy can throw the ball downfield. That is a major factor seperating the top-tier QBs (McNabb, palmer, Brady, Brees, Manning...) from the rest of the pack.72.2 - That's his completion percentage on third downs; a truly amazing stat. The Cowboys have clinched a playoff spot because they have an offense that can move the ball and hasn't been sputtering on third downs; unlike when Bledsoe wa at the helm.86.8 - Romo's QB rating when behind. Although it's 10 points less than his overall rating, it proves he can handle pressure and doesn't fold or make stupid mistakes when trailing.I was not a believer in the beginning; I was glad they benched Bledsoe, but had no clue that Romo would be 50% of what he is. We haven't had a QB this good since Aikman.to the haters.
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Jesus H Christ man yeah, Grad plays in a WCO that produced guys like Favre, Montana and Young. Gruden is known in some places to be very good with QB's in his O. Ever hear of Rich Gannon? And yes, I am also fortunate enough to know where Rivers and Leinhart play.Limp Ditka said:
They have great players with them but I'm not so sure the SD O is favorable to a QB. Maybe having LT and Gates helps but I was talking O's.How many TD's they have with the WR's again? Jesus H Christ are you 12?
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
No, the Tom Brady story in 2001 was the most fascinating QB story since Kurt Warner.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
The best O and the best offensive system are two entirely differnent things.And if I'm not mistaken, the SD O just produced an Pro Bowl QB. I'd say its worked rather well.Jesus H Christ man yeah, Grad plays in a WCO that produced guys like Favre, Montana and Young. Gruden is known in some places to be very good with QB's in his O. Ever hear of Rich Gannon? And yes, I am also fortunate enough to know where Rivers and Leinhart play.Limp Ditka said:They have great players with them but I'm not so sure the SD O is favorable to a QB. Maybe having LT and Gates helps but I was talking O's.How many TD's they have with the WR's again? Jesus H Christ are you 12?
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Ghost Rider
Footballguy
What SD QB was an All-Pro? You know that making the Pro Bowl and being an All-Pro are two different things, right?
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Yes, you are right. Pro Bowl is what I meant
redman
Footballguy
Kurt Warner was also in one of the great (and certainly the most explosive) offenses of all time. The Cowboys are good on offense, but not that good. I also think that Warner circa '99-'01 is better than Romo is now, and I say that with a lot of respect for Romo (who I've compared to Rich Gannon - no slouch in his own right). Romo's already a four-year veteran, so another offeseason for him means less than it does to a QB who is newer to the league. I just look at those numbers projected to 16 games and I don't see it, especially the yardage numbers (and especially for a QB playing for Parcells). Just for comparison's sake, take a look at Rich Gannon's MVP year of 2002 (and the rest of his career, for that matter):
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+---------------------------------------+-----------------+ | Passing | Rushing |+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+| Year TM | G | Comp Att PCT YD Y/A TD INT | Att Yards TD |+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+| 1987 min | 5 | 2 6 33.3 18 3.0 0 1 | 0 0 0 || 1988 min | 3 | 7 15 46.7 90 6.0 0 0 | 4 29 0 || 1990 min | 14 | 182 349 52.1 2278 6.5 16 16 | 52 268 1 || 1991 min | 15 | 211 354 59.6 2166 6.1 12 6 | 43 236 2 || 1992 min | 12 | 159 279 57.0 1905 6.8 12 13 | 45 187 0 || 1993 was | 8 | 74 125 59.2 704 5.6 3 7 | 21 88 1 || 1995 kan | 2 | 7 11 63.6 57 5.2 0 0 | 8 25 1 || 1996 kan | 4 | 54 90 60.0 491 5.5 6 1 | 12 81 0 || 1997 kan | 9 | 98 175 56.0 1144 6.5 7 4 | 33 109 2 || 1998 kan | 12 | 206 354 58.2 2305 6.5 10 6 | 43 173 3 || 1999 oak | 16 | 304 515 59.0 3840 7.5 24 14 | 46 298 2 || 2000 oak | 16 | 284 473 60.0 3430 7.3 28 11 | 89 529 4 || 2001 oak | 16 | 361 549 65.8 3828 7.0 27 9 | 63 231 2 || 2002 oak | 16 | 418 618 67.6 4689 7.6 26 10 | 50 156 3 || 2003 oak | 7 | 125 225 55.6 1274 5.7 6 4 | 6 18 0 || 2004 oak | 3 | 41 68 60.3 524 7.7 3 2 | 5 26 0 |+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+| TOTAL | 158 | 2533 4206 60.2 28743 6.8 180 104 | 520 2454 21 |+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+
Horses Mouth
Footballguy
Well, I also remember the 1999 Rams never got an ounce of credit for what they did until they won the super bowl. The mantra that entire year was that they had a soft schedule and would never make it. They didn't get credit for being an explosive offense until the following season.These Cowboys are going to score about 450 points, which is definitely explosive. It ranks up there among the most prolific offenses we've seen in that regard.
redman
Footballguy
Warner averaged 2.3 TD's and 293 yards per game from '99-'01. Those are all-time great passing numbers over a three-year stretch. Just so we're clear here, I'm not down on Romo - I grabbed him late in the preseason in dynasty, and am happy as can be that I got him.
I just think that he's going to level off and become a consistently good QB, which is a tad more restrained than some of the hyperbole ("next Marino?") stuff that we see thrown around. If his team stays substantially the same during this offseason, I could easily see him throwing for 3500+ yards and 24 TD's or so. Those are Pro Bowl caliber numbers.
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