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Thats a pretty easy decision to me. Forte is a fantasy stud this year and he is not sharing with anyone. I wouldn't even think about trading him for Brown.
Who cares if they disagree. The staff should know the carries were split in every game but one and it was still a 65/35 split with Ricky getting more than 10 carries. You can't be top 15 with that kind of split.Not to give away subscriber info, but the staff at FBG definitely disagree with you.I would not put him in my top 15 RB's going forward.interesting that no one disagreed with him being top 3 and number 1 by season end.
but he is. i think this is the only backfield worth having both on your roster.Who cares if they disagree. The staff should know the carries were split in every game but one and it was still a 65/35 split with Ricky getting more than 10 carries. You can't be top 15 with that kind of split.Not to give away subscriber info, but the staff at FBG definitely disagree with you.I would not put him in my top 15 RB's going forward.interesting that no one disagreed with him being top 3 and number 1 by season end.
The discussion is about were he is going, not were he is at. He's top 15 only because he had an unusually good day against the Pats who were not prepared for the gimmick offense. Ronnie Brown is top 5 on talent. He's the best I've ever seen a RB look coming of the first year of his ACL. Next year in a redraft league if I thought he would not split carries with Ricky I'd consider taking him #1 overall but Ricky is getting to many carries right now.but he is. i think this is the only backfield worth having both on your roster.Who cares if they disagree. The staff should know the carries were split in every game but one and it was still a 65/35 split with Ricky getting more than 10 carries. You can't be top 15 with that kind of split.Not to give away subscriber info, but the staff at FBG definitely disagree with you.I would not put him in my top 15 RB's going forward.interesting that no one disagreed with him being top 3 and number 1 by season end.
It's not owned Big Jim. Owned is what you are in the thread you said I was stupid for thinking it was a RBBC in Miami.That's owned.For the simple minded the discussion was about were the player would end up. Not were he is at. We could all look at the stats if that's all we wanted to know.
where do you see him ending up? barring injury and even w/ the split carries.. i see him easily in the top 15 w/ his schedule going forward.The discussion is about were he is going, not were he is at. He's top 15 only because he had an unusually good day against the Pats who were not prepared for the gimmick offense. Ronnie Brown is top 5 on talent. He's the best I've ever seen a RB look coming of the first year of his ACL. Next year in a redraft league if I thought he would not split carries with Ricky I'd consider taking him #1 overall but Ricky is getting to many carries right now.but he is. i think this is the only backfield worth having both on your roster.Who cares if they disagree. The staff should know the carries were split in every game but one and it was still a 65/35 split with Ricky getting more than 10 carries. You can't be top 15 with that kind of split.Not to give away subscriber info, but the staff at FBG definitely disagree with you.I would not put him in my top 15 RB's going forward.interesting that no one disagreed with him being top 3 and number 1 by season end.
If the guy stays healthy, I'd say easily Top 10.He may split carries, but he's getting the meaningful carries ...and making them count.where do you see him ending up? barring injury and even w/ the split carries.. i see him easily in the top 15 w/ his schedule going forward.The discussion is about were he is going, not were he is at. He's top 15 only because he had an unusually good day against the Pats who were not prepared for the gimmick offense. Ronnie Brown is top 5 on talent. He's the best I've ever seen a RB look coming of the first year of his ACL. Next year in a redraft league if I thought he would not split carries with Ricky I'd consider taking him #1 overall but Ricky is getting to many carries right now.but he is. i think this is the only backfield worth having both on your roster.Who cares if they disagree. The staff should know the carries were split in every game but one and it was still a 65/35 split with Ricky getting more than 10 carries. You can't be top 15 with that kind of split.Not to give away subscriber info, but the staff at FBG definitely disagree with you.I would not put him in my top 15 RB's going forward.interesting that no one disagreed with him being top 3 and number 1 by season end.
It's not owned Big Jim. Owned is what you are in the thread you said I was stupid for thinking it was a RBBC in Miami.That's owned.For the simple minded the discussion was about were the player would end up. Not were he is at. We could all look at the stats if that's all we wanted to know.
Again, quit digging. First you say Ronnie Brown "can't" be a top 15 while he sits at #3-#5 in most formats, 9 months removed from ACL and sandbagged by a bye week and a significant sharing of carries. Then you argue it is because of a big game... don't those count? Just so that I'm clear on the ground rules... did the 125/1 TD game in week 5 count? Does his TD and 93 yards from Sunday count? Also, when you mention the big game being a reason that Ronnie is at #3, can't we also count that Ronnie is the only one in the top 5 who has only played 5 games because of a bye week? No, I can't personally explain why the Dolphins would give Brown just 13 carries the week after he propelled them to an upset over San Diego with a 24/125/TD game. Hopefully they learned a lesson on thinking they are smart enough to beat teams with plan B. They aren't. In any event, I hardly feel "owned" by that development when Brown has racked up 33 points for my FF team over the past 2 weeks, even while hamstrung by playcalling this past week. How has Ricky done for you? Face it: Brown is a top 5 RB, has his bye out of the way, and it only makes sense the Dolphins will compare what worked in Dolphin wins vs. what didn't in Dolphin losses. There is zero reason to believe Brown will collapse in any significant way going forward as he continues to heal.
So who are the 15 RBs that will finish ahead of him that dont have a split carries situation?Off the top of my head, here are guys without a similar split:
You are the guy who said it was not a RBBC when Ricky split the carries against the Chargers because his runs did not count because it was a blowout so please don't counsel me on what stats I can and can not include. You seem a little slow so let me help you catch up. I'm not discounting Ronnie Browns big game in terms of were it has him ranked RIGHT NOW. I'm discounting it happening again and without that game he would not rank so highly RIGHT NOW. An idiot can look at stats RIGHT NOW to see who ranks were. This discussion is about how I perceive them GOING FORWARD. For that I said I don't think Ronnie Brown can END UP top 15 when he splits carries. In every post I've ever made I've said Ronnie was the better option in fantasy but since you keep pointing out that Ronnie is better in fantasy than Ricky I can only take it you are dumb as a box or rocks. I'm sorry but you give me no other conclusion to draw upon.BigJim® said:menobrown said:It's not owned Big Jim. Owned is what you are in the thread you said I was stupid for thinking it was a RBBC in Miami.That's owned.For the simple minded the discussion was about were the player would end up. Not were he is at. We could all look at the stats if that's all we wanted to know.BigJim® said:jamil said:
He was 14th in Points per game and he's the example of why I don't think Brown will finish top 15. I'd really say Barber was really 13th not 14th because two Giant RB's are ranked above him and if not for an injury only one would be but we are splitting hairs. I think the Cowboys offense last year was a lot better than this Dolpins offense and created more TD chances for Barber than what Ronnie Brown is going to get as the season progresses. So if MB was #13 I'm inclined to think Ronnie is going to be off a little due to playing in an inferior offense with what I think is less TD chances.big0mar said:
However, Ronnie is very arguably a more gifted RB than Barber.
I do think he is more gifted. I think he's as talented a runner as exists in the game today.
Well, I might add Parker to the list though his sched is kinda scary. And i think Turner is a bit high - then again you didn't say this was the order they would finish in.Still it's a good list and I myself have Brown ranked very high going forward. The split worries me a tad as does whether the Phins can move the ball without the fancy tricks but ability, schedule and his efforts so far have me sold on him, RBBC or not.ChuckLiddell said:So who are the 15 RBs that will finish ahead of him that dont have a split carries situation?Off the top of my head, here are guys without a similar split:menobrown said:Who cares if they disagree. The staff should know the carries were split in every game but one and it was still a 65/35 split with Ricky getting more than 10 carries. You can't be top 15 with that kind of split.Not to give away subscriber info, but the staff at FBG definitely disagree with you.I would not put him in my top 15 RB's going forward.interesting that no one disagreed with him being top 3 and number 1 by season end.
Lynch
Barber
Portis
Gore
Turner
LT
Jackson
Westbook
LJ
Jamal
Addai
T.Jones
Parker
Grant
ADP
I may have missed a couple, but thats just 15 - and of those 15 who do you feel will finish ahead of Brown this season *if* he stays healthy?
In my mind, these are the guys that have a realistic chance to from that list (in order):
1. Barber
2. ADP
3. Portis
4. Gore
5. Turner
6. LT
7. Jackson
8. Westbrook (?)
9. Lynch
I may have missed someone, but thats all I came up with.
I personally feel that Ronnie is a lock to finish top 10 if he stays healthy. I would be very interested to hear 15 running backs that you feel will finish ahead of him this season. Unless you are assuming an injury - which is a fair assumption - then I myself dont see how that list is even possible.
You're halucinating. Brown had 24 carries against the Chargers, compared to Ricky William's 13, which completely reinforced my opinion that Ron Brown had claimed primary ball carrier status during the New England game. On New England though, it's just hilarious that you keep pointing back to that game suggesting it was true RBBC even though Ricky's carries came with the score 37-6. Williams had a clearly mop up role vs. New England, and anyone without his head planted in the sand knows that. So please quit embarrassing yourself. Who knows why the Pats would change something that was working great when they faced Houston, but Ronnie still got more carries, more yardage, and most relevant to this board - enough FF points to justify starting him even on a seemingly down week. Also Miami lost to an inferior team, and some might argue as a result from moving away from what was working fine. See you next week!
i'd really like to see who you think will be ranked higher than ronnie.You are the guy who said it was not a RBBC when Ricky split the carries against the Chargers because his runs did not count because it was a blowout so please don't counsel me on what stats I can and can not include. You seem a little slow so let me help you catch up. I'm not discounting Ronnie Browns big game in terms of were it has him ranked RIGHT NOW. I'm discounting it happening again and without that game he would not rank so highly RIGHT NOW. An idiot can look at stats RIGHT NOW to see who ranks were. This discussion is about how I perceive them GOING FORWARD. For that I said I don't think Ronnie Brown can END UP top 15 when he splits carries. In every post I've ever made I've said Ronnie was the better option in fantasy but since you keep pointing out that Ronnie is better in fantasy than Ricky I can only take it you are dumb as a box or rocks. I'm sorry but you give me no other conclusion to draw upon.BigJim® said:menobrown said:It's not owned Big Jim. Owned is what you are in the thread you said I was stupid for thinking it was a RBBC in Miami.That's owned.For the simple minded the discussion was about were the player would end up. Not were he is at. We could all look at the stats if that's all we wanted to know.BigJim® said:jamil said:Again, quit digging. First you say Ronnie Brown "can't" be a top 15 while he sits at #3-#5 in most formats, 9 months removed from ACL and sandbagged by a bye week and a significant sharing of carries. Then you argue it is because of a big game... don't those count? Just so that I'm clear on the ground rules... did the 125/1 TD game in week 5 count? Does his TD and 93 yards from Sunday count? Also, when you mention the big game being a reason that Ronnie is at #3, can't we also count that Ronnie is the only one in the top 5 who has only played 5 games because of a bye week? No, I can't personally explain why the Dolphins would give Brown just 13 carries the week after he propelled them to an upset over San Diego with a 24/125/TD game. Hopefully they learned a lesson on thinking they are smart enough to beat teams with plan B. They aren't. In any event, I hardly feel "owned" by that development when Brown has racked up 33 points for my FF team over the past 2 weeks, even while hamstrung by playcalling this past week. How has Ricky done for you? Face it: Brown is a top 5 RB, has his bye out of the way, and it only makes sense the Dolphins will compare what worked in Dolphin wins vs. what didn't in Dolphin losses. There is zero reason to believe Brown will collapse in any significant way going forward as he continues to heal.
I have been banned before for way less than this... Be careful with the name calling.You are the guy who said it was not a RBBC when Ricky split the carries against the Chargers because his runs did not count because it was a blowout so please don't counsel me on what stats I can and can not include. You seem a little slow so let me help you catch up. I'm not discounting Ronnie Browns big game in terms of were it has him ranked RIGHT NOW. I'm discounting it happening again and without that game he would not rank so highly RIGHT NOW. An idiot can look at stats RIGHT NOW to see who ranks were. This discussion is about how I perceive them GOING FORWARD. For that I said I don't think Ronnie Brown can END UP top 15 when he splits carries. In every post I've ever made I've said Ronnie was the better option in fantasy but since you keep pointing out that Ronnie is better in fantasy than Ricky I can only take it you are dumb as a box or rocks. I'm sorry but you give me no other conclusion to draw upon.BigJim® said:menobrown said:It's not owned Big Jim. Owned is what you are in the thread you said I was stupid for thinking it was a RBBC in Miami.That's owned.For the simple minded the discussion was about were the player would end up. Not were he is at. We could all look at the stats if that's all we wanted to know.BigJim® said:jamil said:Again, quit digging. First you say Ronnie Brown "can't" be a top 15 while he sits at #3-#5 in most formats, 9 months removed from ACL and sandbagged by a bye week and a significant sharing of carries. Then you argue it is because of a big game... don't those count? Just so that I'm clear on the ground rules... did the 125/1 TD game in week 5 count? Does his TD and 93 yards from Sunday count? Also, when you mention the big game being a reason that Ronnie is at #3, can't we also count that Ronnie is the only one in the top 5 who has only played 5 games because of a bye week? No, I can't personally explain why the Dolphins would give Brown just 13 carries the week after he propelled them to an upset over San Diego with a 24/125/TD game. Hopefully they learned a lesson on thinking they are smart enough to beat teams with plan B. They aren't. In any event, I hardly feel "owned" by that development when Brown has racked up 33 points for my FF team over the past 2 weeks, even while hamstrung by playcalling this past week. How has Ricky done for you? Face it: Brown is a top 5 RB, has his bye out of the way, and it only makes sense the Dolphins will compare what worked in Dolphin wins vs. what didn't in Dolphin losses. There is zero reason to believe Brown will collapse in any significant way going forward as he continues to heal.
At what point do you start counting? Since that Pats game, he's ranked 6th just over the last 2 weeks in my league.menobrown said:
From the time I left my post saying I did not think he would be top 15 going forward which was before this weekends games and after the Pats and Chargers game.
Every game but one this year the touches have been almost identical and that one game was a 65/35 split. That's a RBBC if there ever was one.You're halucinating. Brown had 24 carries against the Chargers, compared to Ricky William's 13, which completely reinforced my opinion that Ron Brown had claimed primary ball carrier status during the New England game. On New England though, it's just hilarious that you keep pointing back to that game suggesting it was true RBBC even though Ricky's carries came with the score 37-6. Williams had a clearly mop up role vs. New England, and anyone without his head planted in the sand knows that. So please quit embarrassing yourself. Who knows why the Pats would change something that was working great when they faced Houston, but Ronnie still got more carries, more yardage, and most relevant to this board - enough FF points to justify starting him even on a seemingly down week. Also Miami lost to an inferior team, and some might argue as a result from moving away from what was working fine. See you next week!
I'm not assuming an injury. When I rank them I am assuming PPG and not total points so in that respect it would cover any injuries. Also, I only play in PPR leagues so I do look at them from a PPR perspective. Not sure how much my rankings would change if not PPR but it's all I know. These are not in order but this would have been my top 15 going forward before this weekends game when I made my post:ChuckLiddell said:So who are the 15 RBs that will finish ahead of him that dont have a split carries situation?Off the top of my head, here are guys without a similar split:menobrown said:Who cares if they disagree. The staff should know the carries were split in every game but one and it was still a 65/35 split with Ricky getting more than 10 carries. You can't be top 15 with that kind of split.Not to give away subscriber info, but the staff at FBG definitely disagree with you.I would not put him in my top 15 RB's going forward.interesting that no one disagreed with him being top 3 and number 1 by season end.
Lynch
Barber
Portis
Gore
Turner
LT
Jackson
Westbook
LJ
Jamal
Addai
T.Jones
Parker
Grant
ADP
I may have missed a couple, but thats just 15 - and of those 15 who do you feel will finish ahead of Brown this season *if* he stays healthy?
In my mind, these are the guys that have a realistic chance to from that list (in order):
1. Barber
2. ADP
3. Portis
4. Gore
5. Turner
6. LT
7. Jackson
8. Westbrook (?)
9. Lynch
I may have missed someone, but thats all I came up with.
I personally feel that Ronnie is a lock to finish top 10 if he stays healthy. I would be very interested to hear 15 running backs that you feel will finish ahead of him this season. Unless you are assuming an injury - which is a fair assumption - then I myself dont see how that list is even possible.
Forte top 5? i think he'll hit the rookie wall. same w/ steve and this is from a texans and slaton fan. as for jamal lewis and mcgahee.. no comment.since this is about going forward, have you looked at MIA's schedule? hes already producing w/ this "RBBC" split so i could care less if he continues to split carries. i'll welcome it at his production to keep him fresher throughout the season.I'm not assuming an injury. When I rank them I am assuming PPG and not total points so in that respect it would cover any injuries. Also, I only play in PPR leagues so I do look at them from a PPR perspective. Not sure how much my rankings would change if not PPR but it's all I know. These are not in order but this would have been my top 15 going forward before this weekends game when I made my post:ChuckLiddell said:So who are the 15 RBs that will finish ahead of him that dont have a split carries situation?Off the top of my head, here are guys without a similar split:menobrown said:Who cares if they disagree. The staff should know the carries were split in every game but one and it was still a 65/35 split with Ricky getting more than 10 carries. You can't be top 15 with that kind of split.Not to give away subscriber info, but the staff at FBG definitely disagree with you.I would not put him in my top 15 RB's going forward.interesting that no one disagreed with him being top 3 and number 1 by season end.
Lynch
Barber
Portis
Gore
Turner
LT
Jackson
Westbook
LJ
Jamal
Addai
T.Jones
Parker
Grant
ADP
I may have missed a couple, but thats just 15 - and of those 15 who do you feel will finish ahead of Brown this season *if* he stays healthy?
In my mind, these are the guys that have a realistic chance to from that list (in order):
1. Barber
2. ADP
3. Portis
4. Gore
5. Turner
6. LT
7. Jackson
8. Westbrook (?)
9. Lynch
I may have missed someone, but thats all I came up with.
I personally feel that Ronnie is a lock to finish top 10 if he stays healthy. I would be very interested to hear 15 running backs that you feel will finish ahead of him this season. Unless you are assuming an injury - which is a fair assumption - then I myself dont see how that list is even possible.
1. Barber
2. Portis
3. Gore
4. Turner
5. Forte
6. Bush
7. Adrian Peterson
8. LT
9. Westbrook
10.. Slaton
11. Lynch
12. Steven Jackson
13. Chris Johnson
14. Jamal Lewis
15. Willis Mcgahee
After last weekends games are done the one guy on that list I'm down on is Willis. I thought he was healthy now I'm not sure and the supporting cast is so awful. I thought his saving grace was going to be an unusually high amount of receptions in the Cam Cameron offense but if they continue the trend of pulling him out during blowouts like they did this week it will hinder his ability to rack up catches. So right now I think I was wrong to put him ahead of Brown. One guy not on this list I would now put ahead of Brown going forward is Ryan Grant. He was not very productive last week but I liked his workload. His catch total is shockingly bad for PPR formats right now but I do think that will change. Again, this is not a were are they now discussion but a were I think they end up going forward discussion. I could certainly see Ronnie slipping into the top 15 but I will be shocked if he makes it top 10 unless Ricky gets hurt. And again, one last time, this is going forward.
If you want to know where 'it is going' then--it can only get better. Brown is the younger, better back who each week is one week further removed from a serious surgery. If he is top three now it is hard to see him getting much worse. As for the NE game, you can't throw that out. That's like people who want to throw out the 50 yards run a RB makes in a game and then say--see, he only averaged 3.8 yards per carry if you throw out his big run. It doesn't work that way. NE is a real defense and he didn't succeed because of a gimmick. Watch the plays. He made players miss and showed great vision and speed and agility. He earned his points. I expect he will earn many more this year.menobrown said:It's not owned Big Jim. Owned is what you are in the thread you said I was stupid for thinking it was a RBBC in Miami.That's owned.For the simple minded the discussion was about were the player would end up. Not were he is at. We could all look at the stats if that's all we wanted to know.BigJim® said:jamil said:
You and a few others are missing the point. I'm not throwing the game out in terms of what he's done but I don't think he's going to do it again. They came out, fooled the Patriots, and he had a career fantasy game. I don't think that happens again this season. Do you?If you want to know where 'it is going' then--it can only get better. Brown is the younger, better back who each week is one week further removed from a serious surgery. If he is top three now it is hard to see him getting much worse. As for the NE game, you can't throw that out. That's like people who want to throw out the 50 yards run a RB makes in a game and then say--see, he only averaged 3.8 yards per carry if you throw out his big run. It doesn't work that way. NE is a real defense and he didn't succeed because of a gimmick. Watch the plays. He made players miss and showed great vision and speed and agility. He earned his points. I expect he will earn many more this year.menobrown said:It's not owned Big Jim. Owned is what you are in the thread you said I was stupid for thinking it was a RBBC in Miami.That's owned.For the simple minded the discussion was about were the player would end up. Not were he is at. We could all look at the stats if that's all we wanted to know.BigJim® said:jamil said:
Currently 10th.
Thanks for the update but not sure of the point. This whole topic was about forecasting going forward not a next week or were are they now stat look up.
I gave my OPINION. You have yours and I have mine. I'd counter that Forte can hit a rookie wall all he wants but as long as he's active he's going to get enough touches to produce. Slaton has not really had such a big workload that I'm worried about him nor does he have a punishing running style. Ronnie Brown, as talented as he is, has had problems of his own staying on the field and is coming off an ACL so there are certain fears one can have about his ability to continue to his pace. He's only got top numbers right now because of one giant game. I'm not throwing that out but it's skewing his stats. I don't think it continues. Just my opinion.Forte top 5? i think he'll hit the rookie wall. same w/ steve and this is from a texans and slaton fan. as for jamal lewis and mcgahee.. no comment.since this is about going forward, have you looked at MIA's schedule? hes already producing w/ this "RBBC" split so i could care less if he continues to split carries. i'll welcome it at his production to keep him fresher throughout the season.I'm not assuming an injury. When I rank them I am assuming PPG and not total points so in that respect it would cover any injuries. Also, I only play in PPR leagues so I do look at them from a PPR perspective. Not sure how much my rankings would change if not PPR but it's all I know. These are not in order but this would have been my top 15 going forward before this weekends game when I made my post:ChuckLiddell said:So who are the 15 RBs that will finish ahead of him that dont have a split carries situation?Off the top of my head, here are guys without a similar split:menobrown said:Who cares if they disagree. The staff should know the carries were split in every game but one and it was still a 65/35 split with Ricky getting more than 10 carries. You can't be top 15 with that kind of split.Not to give away subscriber info, but the staff at FBG definitely disagree with you.I would not put him in my top 15 RB's going forward.interesting that no one disagreed with him being top 3 and number 1 by season end.
Lynch
Barber
Portis
Gore
Turner
LT
Jackson
Westbook
LJ
Jamal
Addai
T.Jones
Parker
Grant
ADP
I may have missed a couple, but thats just 15 - and of those 15 who do you feel will finish ahead of Brown this season *if* he stays healthy?
In my mind, these are the guys that have a realistic chance to from that list (in order):
1. Barber
2. ADP
3. Portis
4. Gore
5. Turner
6. LT
7. Jackson
8. Westbrook (?)
9. Lynch
I may have missed someone, but thats all I came up with.
I personally feel that Ronnie is a lock to finish top 10 if he stays healthy. I would be very interested to hear 15 running backs that you feel will finish ahead of him this season. Unless you are assuming an injury - which is a fair assumption - then I myself dont see how that list is even possible.
1. Barber
2. Portis
3. Gore
4. Turner
5. Forte
6. Bush
7. Adrian Peterson
8. LT
9. Westbrook
10.. Slaton
11. Lynch
12. Steven Jackson
13. Chris Johnson
14. Jamal Lewis
15. Willis Mcgahee
After last weekends games are done the one guy on that list I'm down on is Willis. I thought he was healthy now I'm not sure and the supporting cast is so awful. I thought his saving grace was going to be an unusually high amount of receptions in the Cam Cameron offense but if they continue the trend of pulling him out during blowouts like they did this week it will hinder his ability to rack up catches. So right now I think I was wrong to put him ahead of Brown. One guy not on this list I would now put ahead of Brown going forward is Ryan Grant. He was not very productive last week but I liked his workload. His catch total is shockingly bad for PPR formats right now but I do think that will change. Again, this is not a were are they now discussion but a were I think they end up going forward discussion. I could certainly see Ronnie slipping into the top 15 but I will be shocked if he makes it top 10 unless Ricky gets hurt. And again, one last time, this is going forward.
thanks for your opinion. i've never understood that whole you shouldn't count the big games. if it happens it happens, how many people are capable of actually putting up that type of game? the injury concerns are there, but you have to admit that it doesn't even seem like he's coming off of a torn ACL. we can even throw out the huge patriots game. these past 2 weeks he's combined for 226 total yards and 2 TDs. and since we are talking about going forward, who's schedule is better than his?I gave my OPINION. You have yours and I have mine. I'd counter that Forte can hit a rookie wall all he wants but as long as he's active he's going to get enough touches to produce. Slaton has not really had such a big workload that I'm worried about him nor does he have a punishing running style. Ronnie Brown, as talented as he is, has had problems of his own staying on the field and is coming off an ACL so there are certain fears one can have about his ability to continue to his pace. He's only got top numbers right now because of one giant game. I'm not throwing that out but it's skewing his stats. I don't think it continues. Just my opinion.Forte top 5? i think he'll hit the rookie wall. same w/ steve and this is from a texans and slaton fan. as for jamal lewis and mcgahee.. no comment.since this is about going forward, have you looked at MIA's schedule? hes already producing w/ this "RBBC" split so i could care less if he continues to split carries. i'll welcome it at his production to keep him fresher throughout the season.I'm not assuming an injury. When I rank them I am assuming PPG and not total points so in that respect it would cover any injuries. Also, I only play in PPR leagues so I do look at them from a PPR perspective. Not sure how much my rankings would change if not PPR but it's all I know. These are not in order but this would have been my top 15 going forward before this weekends game when I made my post:ChuckLiddell said:So who are the 15 RBs that will finish ahead of him that dont have a split carries situation?Off the top of my head, here are guys without a similar split:menobrown said:Who cares if they disagree. The staff should know the carries were split in every game but one and it was still a 65/35 split with Ricky getting more than 10 carries. You can't be top 15 with that kind of split.Not to give away subscriber info, but the staff at FBG definitely disagree with you.I would not put him in my top 15 RB's going forward.interesting that no one disagreed with him being top 3 and number 1 by season end.
Lynch
Barber
Portis
Gore
Turner
LT
Jackson
Westbook
LJ
Jamal
Addai
T.Jones
Parker
Grant
ADP
I may have missed a couple, but thats just 15 - and of those 15 who do you feel will finish ahead of Brown this season *if* he stays healthy?
In my mind, these are the guys that have a realistic chance to from that list (in order):
1. Barber
2. ADP
3. Portis
4. Gore
5. Turner
6. LT
7. Jackson
8. Westbrook (?)
9. Lynch
I may have missed someone, but thats all I came up with.
I personally feel that Ronnie is a lock to finish top 10 if he stays healthy. I would be very interested to hear 15 running backs that you feel will finish ahead of him this season. Unless you are assuming an injury - which is a fair assumption - then I myself dont see how that list is even possible.
1. Barber
2. Portis
3. Gore
4. Turner
5. Forte
6. Bush
7. Adrian Peterson
8. LT
9. Westbrook
10.. Slaton
11. Lynch
12. Steven Jackson
13. Chris Johnson
14. Jamal Lewis
15. Willis Mcgahee
After last weekends games are done the one guy on that list I'm down on is Willis. I thought he was healthy now I'm not sure and the supporting cast is so awful. I thought his saving grace was going to be an unusually high amount of receptions in the Cam Cameron offense but if they continue the trend of pulling him out during blowouts like they did this week it will hinder his ability to rack up catches. So right now I think I was wrong to put him ahead of Brown. One guy not on this list I would now put ahead of Brown going forward is Ryan Grant. He was not very productive last week but I liked his workload. His catch total is shockingly bad for PPR formats right now but I do think that will change. Again, this is not a were are they now discussion but a were I think they end up going forward discussion. I could certainly see Ronnie slipping into the top 15 but I will be shocked if he makes it top 10 unless Ricky gets hurt. And again, one last time, this is going forward.
You're welcome. I think the reason should be clear. Your definition of going forward began with the 3rd game he had started. It was the worst of the 3 games yet he is still 10th. Do you really think he will regress from the stats of the last game?
My definition of going forward was any point forward from when I made the post. This was after the Chargers game and before the game against the Texans this week. So going from the Texans game on is the going forward part. I made the post on October 6th for what its worth.It's not like my predictions for him are way off what a lot of other people think. The FFPC, which is a new high stakes fantasy league with a lot of seasoned fantasy players, held a draft on October 3rd with the results only used for games going forward. This is a PPR league. In that draft Ronnie went 3.2. The 15th RB selected. This was before the Chargers game so maybe that raised his stock in people eyes but it was also after the huge game against the Pats. If we all agreed this would be no fun but I'm just pointing out that opinions on him do vary it's not like me putting him right outside the top 15 is crazy. Just a difference of opinion and one I might be really wrong about but it's what I think. Not what I know.
It's not that I don't count the Pat game. It's just that when using a small sample size of a few games when one game is so far and away above the others I have to examine the possibility of that continuing. I don't think he has another game like that this year and he certainly won't have a game like that every 4 or 5 games. So please understand I'm not dismissing it but when forecasting what I think he does for the rest of the year I have to factor in one unusual game.
