Ronnie Brown traded to Detroit! (1 Viewer)

[JuSt CuZ]

Discuss!

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/18/eagles-trade-ronnie-brown-to-lions/

 

[trader jake]

Apparently Philly is breaking up The Dream Team.

Best's concussion must have the Lions a bit worried.

 

[LawFitz]

If this isn't BS, this is pretty freaking huge for Ronnie Brown, right?

 

[delusional]

Its being discussed in the eagles thread and the Best has a concussion thread

 

[Lascelle]

Ronnie may actually be used now.

Harrison continues to get passed around as a bench cozy.

 

[Brock Middlebrook]

Jerome Harrison can't catch a break

 

[dgreen]

Breaking up the Dream Team already?

 

[thriftyrocker]

I guess I can drop Keiland Williams in about 5 leagues.

 

[JuSt CuZ]

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=618780

Thread already started!

 

[trader jake]

LINK

The Eagles have traded out-of-favor running back Ronnie Brown to the Lions for Jerome Harrison and an undisclosed 2013 draft pick.

Harrison, an Eagles backup last year, has 14 carries for 41 yards this year in Detroit. Brown had fallen out of the running back rotation after a costly fumble against the 49ers.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Dion Lewis is better than Brown and Harrison. Nothing to see here.

Mo Morris still the backup to own. Ronnie may overtake Keiland Williams as the plodding SY back.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Ronnie was behind Lewis in Philly. Not sure this is anything significant.

 

[JuSt CuZ]

I guess I can drop Keiland Williams in about 5 leagues.

Ronnie will have some value in ppr leagues, but he is going to a new system...takes a while for them to learn the book.

 

[VaTerp]

If this isn't BS, this is pretty freaking huge for Ronnie Brown, right?

I don't know about huge but you would think it certainly increases his value.Contemplating picking up Brown now to add depth to my declining RB corps but I'm not sure how much value he'll have. Especially since I need help over the next 2-3 weeks.

 

[JuSt CuZ]

How long is Best out with this type of deal? should be a while.

 

[ponchsox]

How long is Best out with this type of deal? should be a while.

I doubt they make this deal if they only expect Best to miss the next game.

 

[todisco1]

How long is Best out with this type of deal? should be a while.

I doubt they make this deal if they only expect Best to miss the next game.

Why? Seems like a low risk deal for both sides.

 

[billymays]

I guess I can drop Keiland Williams in about 5 leagues.

Ronnie will have some value in ppr leagues, but he is going to a new system...takes a while for them to learn the book.

Played for linehan in miami though. Like the move for the lions

 

[ponchsox]

Lock or merge coming

 

[Unwrittenlaw]

I like this trade more for Harrison actually. Harrison would've had to compete with Leshoure next year which he would've had no shot at the #2.

Harrison could beat Dion Lewis.

 

[zamboni]

Harrison continues to get passed around as a bench cozy.

I was thinking the same thing - he's becoming Mr. Trade for RB Bench Fodder

 

[JuSt CuZ]

Lock or merge coming

Merge I guess.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Good for Ronnie Brown, should be able to carry it 10-12 times a game and give them a goal line back. Detroit is likely going to the playoffs and they need a pounder to do some dirty work at times. Good move for them, forget whatever you saw Brown do or not do in Philly, this is a much better situation for him IMHO.

 

[scott72]

Too many other guys in the picture muddy the waters. What about Morris and Williams?

 

[JuSt CuZ]

Good for Ronnie Brown, should be able to carry it 10-12 times a game and give them a goal line back. Detroit is likely going to the playoffs and they need a pounder to do some dirty work at times. Good move for them, forget whatever you saw Brown do or not do in Philly, this is a much better situation for him IMHO.

Situation is what its all about.He really never had a shot to steal carries from McCoy, but he will walk in and compliment Best very well when he gets back.

 

[steelwind]

Harrison was poor at pass protection and Detroit's future is Stafford. Hence why Harrison was a healthy scratch for so long. The Lions get Ronnie Brown who can pass protect and he's a veteran. This will cut into Keiland William's time. Mo Morris is still the handcuff.

 

[johnadams]

I guess I can drop Keiland Williams in about 5 leagues.

Ronnie will have some value in ppr leagues, but he is going to a new system...takes a while for them to learn the book.

Linehan was OC in MIA when Ronnie showed up in the NFL. Shouldn't be a big transition for a veteran back.Morris is at best a back-up RB and only borderline competent in that role. If Best misses any extended time, Brown is the pick-up.

 

[solorca]

I have a bad feeling about how this will affect Best. I see him being a situational player now, rather than an every down back. Hopefully he'll still get a good amount of touches when he comes back, but this could be bad news for Best owners.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Nice. Will allow for a lower winning bid for Morris.

Brown's nothing more than an attempt to upgrade Keiland Williams (probably the slowest RB in the league)

 

[Hairy Snowman]

Dion Lewis is better than Brown and Harrison. Nothing to see here.Mo Morris still the backup to own. Ronnie may overtake Keiland Williams as the plodding SY back.

Detroit just traded away a player and a 7th for a third string RB? That just doesn't sound realistic to me. My opinion is that Detroit is most likely going to a committee approach and Morris is looking like the 3rd down back. Either that or Morris moves to change of pace and Brown stays on the field more. No way you make the move unless you feel like you need to. I think this also tells you that Best's injury could be serious. Two concussions inside a year usually is. He's out for a couple weeks for sure.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Good for Ronnie Brown, should be able to carry it 10-12 times a game and give them a goal line back. Detroit is likely going to the playoffs and they need a pounder to do some dirty work at times. Good move for them, forget whatever you saw Brown do or not do in Philly, this is a much better situation for him IMHO.

Situation is what its all about.He really never had a shot to steal carries from McCoy, but he will walk in and compliment Best very well when he gets back.

And to add on that, I don't think Brown will have a huge impact fantasy wise again in his career. But I do think this will make Detroit a much stronger team as he is essentially a band aid for the rest of the year until they get Leshoure back next season or pick another guy in the draft.Brown will have a lot of stat lines that look something like 8/38, 6/22, 12/48...but those yards and likely 1st downs he will create can help Detroit a lot the rest of the way. I wouldn't expect a lot though in terms of fantasy. It's a bigger deal in terms of NFL.

 

[Young 8]

Morris is at best a back-up RB and only borderline competent in that role. If Best misses any extended time, Brown is the pick-up.

This

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Dion Lewis is better than Brown and Harrison. Nothing to see here.Mo Morris still the backup to own. Ronnie may overtake Keiland Williams as the plodding SY back.

Detroit just traded away a player and a 7th for a third string RB? That just doesn't sound realistic to me. My opinion is that Detroit is most likely going to a committee approach and Morris is looking like the 3rd down back. Either that or Morris moves to change of pace and Brown stays on the field more. No way you make the move unless you feel like you need to. I think this also tells you that Best's injury could be serious. Two concussions inside a year usually is. He's out for a couple weeks for sure.

Detroit traded a game day inactive player (Harrison) and a 7th for Philly's 3rd string RB (Ronnie Brown)Brown will end the Keiland Williams experiment.

 

[eaglezzz]

if only the Eagles could have done this trade before the San Fran game and we would be 3-3 now. (Yes I believe Ronnie throwing the ball away at the goal line is the reason we lost that game)

 

[FantasyTrader]

Harrison was poor at pass protection and Detroit's future is Stafford. Hence why Harrison was a healthy scratch for so long. The Lions get Ronnie Brown who can pass protect and he's a veteran. This will cut into Keiland William's time. Mo Morris is still the handcuff.

A very good post. Brown's ability in pass protection is the key.

 

[nxmehta]

Jerome Harrison can't catch a break is absolutely terrible

 

[Shutout]

I kind of think the Lions would have done this deal even if Best was completely healthy. I think it has been obvious that they ahve wanted a situational between the tackles runner at spots in games all year. this is probably a GOOD thing for Best. He seems out of his element when trying to pound the inside running lanes.

 

[Hairy Snowman]

Dion Lewis is better than Brown and Harrison. Nothing to see here.Mo Morris still the backup to own. Ronnie may overtake Keiland Williams as the plodding SY back.

Detroit just traded away a player and a 7th for a third string RB? That just doesn't sound realistic to me. My opinion is that Detroit is most likely going to a committee approach and Morris is looking like the 3rd down back. Either that or Morris moves to change of pace and Brown stays on the field more. No way you make the move unless you feel like you need to. I think this also tells you that Best's injury could be serious. Two concussions inside a year usually is. He's out for a couple weeks for sure.

Detroit traded a game day inactive player (Harrison) and a 7th for Philly's 3rd string RB (Ronnie Brown)Brown will end the Keiland Williams experiment.

We'll see. You may be right, but you sound like a Miami fan who spoiled on Brown. Which is fine.My bet is you see Brown on the field, back in Linehan's offense, day 1. How was Brown's production under Linehan last time? Exactly. My bet is day 1, play 1, he is the starter until Best comes back.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Dion Lewis is better than Brown and Harrison. Nothing to see here.Mo Morris still the backup to own. Ronnie may overtake Keiland Williams as the plodding SY back.

Detroit just traded away a player and a 7th for a third string RB? That just doesn't sound realistic to me. My opinion is that Detroit is most likely going to a committee approach and Morris is looking like the 3rd down back. Either that or Morris moves to change of pace and Brown stays on the field more. No way you make the move unless you feel like you need to. I think this also tells you that Best's injury could be serious. Two concussions inside a year usually is. He's out for a couple weeks for sure.

Detroit traded a game day inactive player (Harrison) and a 7th for Philly's 3rd string RB (Ronnie Brown)Brown will end the Keiland Williams experiment.

We'll see. You may be right, but you sound like a Miami fan who spoiled on Brown. Which is fine.My bet is you see Brown on the field, back in Linehan's offense, day 1. How was Brown's production under Linehan last time? Exactly. My bet is day 1, play 1, he is the starter until Best comes back.

I just stated the facts -- Harrison's been inactive & it didn't take Philly long to realize Ronnie was done & got passed by Dion Lewis. Actually thought Ronnie would have gotten waived by Philly soon for someone with ST ability.Sounds like someone doesn't want to let the past be the past to me. That Ronnie isn't coming back.He'll be the short yardage back & Keiland will be gone. He'll have a role whether Best's healthy or not. I'd rather own Mo Morris because he'll accrue a lot more statistics/carries in Best's absence.

 

[ponchsox]

I have a bad feeling about how this will affect Best. I see him being a situational player now, rather than an every down back. Hopefully he'll still get a good amount of touches when he comes back, but this could be bad news for Best owners.

Nah, if and when Best is healthy his role won't change IMO. The Lions are still a pass first team and this is what Best excels in. I can see Brown vulturing TDs and doing the short yardage work.

 

[solorca]

I have a bad feeling about how this will affect Best. I see him being a situational player now, rather than an every down back. Hopefully he'll still get a good amount of touches when he comes back, but this could be bad news for Best owners.

Nah, if and when Best is healthy his role won't change IMO. The Lions are still a pass first team and this is what Best excels in. I can see Brown vulturing TDs and doing the short yardage work.

Ehh, not like Jahvid Best has done anything with goal line carries anyway (outside of week 2). I hope you're right...

 

[Anthony Borbely]

I kind of think the Lions would have done this deal even if Best was completely healthy. I think it has been obvious that they ahve wanted a situational between the tackles runner at spots in games all year. this is probably a GOOD thing for Best. He seems out of his element when trying to pound the inside running lanes.

I completely agree with this. The Lions were killed in short yardage and the backups could not pass protect. Brown is better in both areas than anyone on the roster. None of Morris, Williams, or Harrison did much of anything this year. Even though Brown has lost a step, he is still better than anything the Lions had behind Best. It also helps that he knows Linehan's offense and is a solid receiver out of the backfield....big deal since Linehan loves to run screens. Brown is very good in that area. He is a great fit for this team.Very solid move by the Lions with minimal risk.

 

[Riflemen]

I own Best in a 14 man ppr league with a 10 man bench. Dropped a gimpy Jacobs for Ronnie.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Flea flicker??

http://generationysports.com/?p=11136

Good luck Detroit

 

[Dr. Octopus]

How long is Best out with this type of deal? should be a while.

I doubt they make this deal if they only expect Best to miss the next game.

You doubt that they'd trade a RB that has been inactive almost every week this season and a 7th round pick unless they expected Best to miss multiple games? I don't see the connection. I just think they wanted to add a bigger back.

 

[steelwind]

This trade has more to do with protecting Stafford, their future and savior, more than what's going on with Best. The second purpose for this trade is insurance incase Best does not make it through the year whether it's a concussion or if he turned an ankle. Whatever you want to call it, Keiland and Morris aren't good at pass protection. Ronnie Brown is the superior blocker and he has veteran experience.

 

[Routilla]

This trade has more to do with protecting Stafford, their future and savior, more than what's going on with Best. The second purpose for this trade is insurance incase Best does not make it through the year whether it's a concussion or if he turned an ankle. Whatever you want to call it, Keiland and Morris aren't good at pass protection. Ronnie Brown is the superior blocker and he has veteran experience.

This was my thought on the acquisition of RB. Sprinkle in a wildcat near the goalline for fun.

 

[belljr]

So I cut palmer traded to raiders

Cut brown and then ttaded

Both will be huge

Cool story I know

 

[SacramentoBob]

O/U on how many awkward pitch attempts Ronnie makes at the goal line?

 

[SacramentoBob]

I kind of like this trade for the Lions. They haven't been able to run the ball to close out games. Ronnie may not be able to either, but at least they are trying. I can't remember the last time there were this many possibly significant trades at the deadline. Brown, Palmer and Lloyd all dealt today.