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I'm seeing Ronnie in rankings anywhere from #5 to the late teens. I think he's a tremendous talent and with Cam Cameron on board I could easily see him top 7 providing MIA has a viable QB and decent OL blocking. what are your thoughts and if you're ranking him high or low?

 
Things in Miami are all up in the air...U have a new system coming in, might have Ricky back, and the Qb position is rumoured to be goin to somebody not currently on the team, and the oline isnt set after they dumped a bunch of their linemen. Doesnt sound like the best situation. Hey things can work out, look at the Saints last year, but as of right now not an offense i would bet on. Unfortunately im a fin fan.

 
I'm seeing Ronnie in rankings anywhere from #5 to the late teens. I think he's a tremendous talent and with Cam Cameron on board I could easily see him top 7 providing MIA has a viable QB and decent OL blocking. what are your thoughts and if you're ranking him high or low?
the O-line is a mess, and the WR's aren't very good, Chambers notwithstanding. I realize Cameron's body of work with LT out in San Diego, so there is hope that he can get Ronnie Brown on track this season. He runs hard, and catches the ball better than all but a small handful of RB's.But something of him reminds me of Keith Byars, a RB with great hands, but a tad on the slow side, or in Ronnie's case, lacking the moves to make the first defender(s) miss him..Brown has been said to have good speed ( 4.4 in the 40 yard dash), but he doesn't have good lateral speed, doesn't move left-and-right well, can't find the cutback lanes as easily as a guy like LT does. Most of Browns' runs are the straight-line type, he tends to like to run people over rather than elude them like LT. it takes Brown a long time to get up to full speed. I'd be a believer, if the Fish draft someone like Levi Brown! that guy could be an anchor of that line for years to come. I worry about the effectiveness of Culpepper, and/or Trent Green. Not sure Green has much left in the tank, while Culpepper looks like he's the beneficiary of playing alongside of, and throwing to, Moss and HOF'er Chris Carter. Sans Moss and Carter, Culpepper looked almost as bad as Joey Harrington, if not worse. Unless the get the QB position locked in place, this offense will struggle at times. Playing in the much improved AFC East doesn't help either. Jets are much better, Pats are reloaded defensively, and the Bills are up-n-coming. If anyone can overcome these problems,its Cameron. but , he has his work cut out for him..I'd put him at RB #15, if not closer to #20, at least right now..but I doubt he climbs into the top 10. I just don't think he has anything special going for him.
 
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Best case scenario, Miami turns him into Domanic Davis and feeds him the ball at the goalline. Chalk him up for 15 touchdowns and he is well worth a top5 pick. Worst case scenario though, there is a repeat of 2006, Culpepper gets benched early and Cleo Lemon becomes then interim starting QB instead of Harrington. There is just so much going on in Miami, who knows what 2007 is going to look like? Seems like a pretty big risk factor to me. Losing Saban to me is big, I thought he held a lot of potential as an NFL coach.

And personally, I would almost rather go with a situational guy in a much better situation like Reggie Bush over Brown. Bush could just as easily hit a home run with his combined stats, like Brown potentially could as a workhorse RB, but I think the chances of a strikeout with Bush are lower. Just because the guy is a "featured" RB, doesn't make him a solid RB#1 in a fantasy leagues. Ask Edgerrin James owners. Brown looks pretty good from what I've seen, but Miami as a team has looked bad. Situation is half the battle.

 
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I'm seeing Ronnie in rankings anywhere from #5 to the late teens. I think he's a tremendous talent and with Cam Cameron on board I could easily see him top 7 providing MIA has a viable QB and decent OL blocking. what are your thoughts and if you're ranking him high or low?
I don't know, it's probably just me but I don't see Cameron being a genius or some type of guru creating terrific schemes. He had the best TE, best RB, very good QB, very good FB, one of the best left tackles in the game and probably the best overall talent on offense in the NFL. They were a tremendously successful offense but how tough is it to run left and hand the ball the LT. Everyone in the world knew it was coming yet they still couldn't stop it. Is that Cameron or just better talent?My point being, I don't think that Cameron will impact Brown significantly one way or the other. What will impact him much more is the state of their line and the QB situation.

 
Miami was #29 in rush attempts last year. Cameron should increase that, but realistically not too much.

With Ricky back in the fold (or any other guy sharing with Brown), Ronnie is not looking to be a top back due to opportunities.

 
So they were 29th last year in rushing attempts and like you said Cameron should add to that #. Their offense can't be worse than last year and while he was healthy Ronnie was a top ten RB. Why wouldn't he do atleast as good as he did last year? Iff you are buying intot he Ricky hype I can atleast buy that but you said whoever is backing him up. Why do you think he will regress from what he was doing while healthy last year?

 
Why do you think he will regress from what he was doing while healthy last year?
He's shared the carries in college and the pros. I don't expect that to change. Even LT was spelled by Turner while under Cameron and obviously Brown is not LT.Not sure if Miami has as good of a line as SD.Sammy Morris (4.3 avg) did just as well as Brown did when Brown (4.2 avg) was out injured.Seems Miami was plug and play with the RBs, not Brown being overly special.
 
Why do you think he will regress from what he was doing while healthy last year?
He's shared the carries in college and the pros. I don't expect that to change.

Even LT was spelled by Turner while under Cameron and obviously Brown is not LT.

Not sure if Miami has as good of a line as SD.

Sammy Morris (4.3 avg) did just as well as Brown did when Brown (4.2 avg) was out injured.

Seems Miami was plug and play with the RBs, not Brown being overly special.
I think you should look at last year's game logs before saying he shared time. Brown was by far the primary running back in Miami last year.
 
I think you should look at last year's game logs before saying he shared time. Brown was by far the primary running back in Miami last year.
Yes, primary. No argument.241 carries for Brown, 92 for Morris (mostly due to Brown injuries).2005, Brown had 207. Williams had 178.I do believe Miami will run the ball more if Ricky is back.Not sure I see Brown as a 300 carry RB with or without Ricky around.Brown has yet to play in all 16 games of a season.
 
Why do you think he will regress from what he was doing while healthy last year?
He's shared the carries in college and the pros. I don't expect that to change.

Even LT was spelled by Turner while under Cameron and obviously Brown is not LT.

Not sure if Miami has as good of a line as SD.

Sammy Morris (4.3 avg) did just as well as Brown did when Brown (4.2 avg) was out injured.

Seems Miami was plug and play with the RBs, not Brown being overly special.
LT had 348 carries compared to 80.Cam will get Ronnie the ball

 
Why do you think he will regress from what he was doing while healthy last year?
He's shared the carries in college and the pros. I don't expect that to change.

Even LT was spelled by Turner while under Cameron and obviously Brown is not LT.

Not sure if Miami has as good of a line as SD.

Sammy Morris (4.3 avg) did just as well as Brown did when Brown (4.2 avg) was out injured.

Seems Miami was plug and play with the RBs, not Brown being overly special.
Cam will get Ronnie the ball
.... and Ricky too. :lmao:
 
Cameron will have a big impact on Browns production simply by not being Mularkey. Last year Rudniki mentioned how terrible Mularkey was with play calling, particularly around the goal line. IMO, that extended to between the 20's as well. The play calling was horrible last year - at least, as far as RBrown was concerned.

 
Also a note of interest, but probably nothing.

Jesse Chatman is a current back-up to Ronnie in Miami.

He knows the Cam Cameron/Norv Turner offense from the days he was the Charger back-up RB.

Could be this year's Sammy Morris if Ricky is not re-instated.

 
Cameron's going to have to work wonders. Has been the 24th scoring RB two years in a row in my league. Gonna need a big improvement to justify where he's been going.

 
What about the Ricky factor? TD thinks Ricky is ready to rock this season. The Dolphins have stated he will be welcomed back and there is already talk of 10 carries a game.

 
I think Ronnie Brown is one of the more difficult RBs in the league to project. I hope he becomes more involved in the passing game (based on his good receiving/blocking skills). Mularkey got away from throwing him the ball after the first few games. I think he is limited as a runner. He runs hard with determination and power. But his lateral ability will limit him especially if there are not significant improvements on the oline. I expect a more sound gameplan with Cameron (aka not abandoning the run by the second quarter, playing to players strengths - such as giving RB more targets in the passing game......why Mularkey continues to find work in the NFL is beyond explanation). But, as far as expecting a huge jump in production for RB, I am hesitant on that prediction. I think RB will become more consistent, but huge end of the year numbers will be hard to achieve. The QB position is unsettled, their oline is in shambles, the defense is aging, and the receiving talent is limited.

My prediction:

255 carries 1071 yards 7tds

41 catches 361 yards 1 td

 
Cameron's going to have to work wonders. Has been the 24th scoring RB two years in a row in my league. Gonna need a big improvement to justify where he's been going.
is that on a per-game basis, or overall?
Overall. He only missed a couple games though and those directly behind him missed time as well (SA, Maroney, McGahee last year) so I doubt things would change much.
In my non-PPR league, he was 18th on a PPG basis, and 28th overall. He did seem to drop quite a bit comparing overall to PPG, says to me that he did miss more games than an average top-30 back.I remember him being a borderline top-10 back pretty much until his horrendous game vs Vikings, when everything fell apart.
 
If a Qb If an OL ????????

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