rudi:stud or dud? (1 Viewer)

[jayboy444]

yeah, yeah, i know fantasy mantra #1: start your studs! so where does rudi johnson fit in? last year a definate stud but this year? certainly not a larry johnson or LT or brian westbrook, maybe not even a tiki barber or kevin jones or even, god forbid, fred taylor. what do you with a back like rudi? is it him ot the "O" line or is he just NOT a stud? who has the real story? you tell me!

 

[mrreid]

yeah, yeah, i know fantasy mantra #1: start your studs! so where does rudi johnson fit in? last year a definate stud but this year? certainly not a larry johnson or LT or brian westbrook, maybe not even a tiki barber or kevin jones or even, god forbid, fred taylor. what do you with a back like rudi? is it him ot the "O" line or is he just NOT a stud? who has the real story? you tell me!

i just got him i think he will be a top 10 back this year what else do you want

 

[SickThing]

I'm a Rudi owner who would normally start him every week, but against the Ravens this week I think I'll go with good alternatives Ahman Green and Dunn. Any other matchup than Baltimore, I'd fit Rudi into my lineup.

 

[PsychoMan]

i'm also considering dunn over rudi this week ... as of now, that's the way i'm leaning

 

[s_ezy]

Tatum Bell has 92 yards vs Baltimore

LT had 97 yards vs Baltimore

LT is more talented than Rudi is more talented than Tatum Bell

i see Rudi doing just fine this week as long as Cinn doesn't abandon the run like last week

 

[mrreid]

Tatum Bell has 92 yards vs BaltimoreLT had 97 yards vs BaltimoreLT is more talented than Rudi is more talented than Tatum Belli see Rudi doing just fine this week as long as Cinn doesn't abandon the run like last week

 

[turkishkamel]

Tatum Bell has 92 yards vs BaltimoreLT had 97 yards vs BaltimoreLT is more talented than Rudi is more talented than Tatum Belli see Rudi doing just fine this week as long as Cinn doesn't abandon the run like last week

thats too small a sample to mean anything.Caddy 8/22ydsJordan 19/35ydsClev 19/38ydsLT2 27/98yds (by no means a good game for LT2)TBell 19/92ydsFoster 26/58ydsSaints 14/35ydsCharlie Frye has the only rushing TD against Balt this year and the numbers above aren't good. not saying don't start Rudi, just saying he's in no way a must startEdit for grammar

 

[Garts]

Rudi has had great success against BAL int he past. He's a no-nonsense runner, he just needs the carries....and he'll approach 100-1td

 

[s_ezy]

Tatum Bell has 92 yards vs Baltimore

LT had 97 yards vs Baltimore

LT is more talented than Rudi is more talented than Tatum Bell

i see Rudi doing just fine this week as long as Cinn doesn't abandon the run like last week

thats too small a sample to mean anything.Caddy 8/22yds

Jordan 19/35yds

Clev 19/38yds

LT2 27/98yds (by no means a good game for LT2)

TBell 19/92yds

Foster 26/58yds

Saints 14/35yds

Charlie Frye has the only rushing TD against Balt this year and the numbers above aren't good. not saying don't start Rudi, just saying he's in no way a must start

Edit for grammar

first LT2 is averaging 93 yards a gameRudi has a history of doing well against Baltimore

in 2004

in a losing effort had 98 yards on 23 carries

in a win had only 56 yards on 19 carries and a reception for 3 yards

in 2005

in a win had 97 yards on 29 carries and a TD, also 1 reception for 15 yards

in another win had 114 yards on 27 carries and 2 TDs, also 1 reception for 5 yards

 

[slinky]

Tatum Bell has 92 yards vs Baltimore

LT had 97 yards vs Baltimore

LT is more talented than Rudi is more talented than Tatum Bell

i see Rudi doing just fine this week as long as Cinn doesn't abandon the run like last week

thats too small a sample to mean anything.Caddy 8/22yds

Jordan 19/35yds

Clev 19/38yds

LT2 27/98yds (by no means a good game for LT2)

TBell 19/92yds

Foster 26/58yds

Saints 14/35yds

Charlie Frye has the only rushing TD against Balt this year and the numbers above aren't good. not saying don't start Rudi, just saying he's in no way a must start

Edit for grammar

first LT2 is averaging 93 yards a gameRudi has a history of doing well against Baltimore

in 2004

in a losing effort had 98 yards on 23 carries

in a win had only 56 yards on 19 carries and a reception for 3 yards

in 2005

in a win had 97 yards on 29 carries and a TD, also 1 reception for 15 yards

in another win had 114 yards on 27 carries and 2 TDs, also 1 reception for 5 yards

Both I plan on starting him with no worries.

 

[turkishkamel]

Tatum Bell has 92 yards vs Baltimore

LT had 97 yards vs Baltimore

LT is more talented than Rudi is more talented than Tatum Bell

i see Rudi doing just fine this week as long as Cinn doesn't abandon the run like last week

thats too small a sample to mean anything.Caddy 8/22yds

Jordan 19/35yds

Clev 19/38yds

LT2 27/98yds (by no means a good game for LT2)

TBell 19/92yds

Foster 26/58yds

Saints 14/35yds

Charlie Frye has the only rushing TD against Balt this year and the numbers above aren't good. not saying don't start Rudi, just saying he's in no way a must start

Edit for grammar

first LT2 is averaging 93 yards a gameRudi has a history of doing well against Baltimore

in 2004

in a losing effort had 98 yards on 23 carries

in a win had only 56 yards on 19 carries and a reception for 3 yards

in 2005

in a win had 97 yards on 29 carries and a TD, also 1 reception for 15 yards

in another win had 114 yards on 27 carries and 2 TDs, also 1 reception for 5 yards

only a 3.6 ypc average, 1 catch and no TDs. i'd say that a down day for Tomlinson. as for Rudi, i'm not really concerned with what he did against Balt in 2004. i own him, and probably wont start him

 

[BigRed]

i see Rudi doing just fine this week as long as Cinn doesn't abandon the run like last week

Yeah vs the #1 rush D why would they do that <_< It is a tough call if you have decent options though. I also have Dunn (DET) and am going back n forth over which to start. My biggest worry is him losing touches to either Perry or the passing game. I just don't get their logic: he did well the 1Q last week.....so they don't use him the rest of the game. brilliant

 

[Cowtippers]

Rudi (and some of his offensive linemen) were vocal this week about the Bengals abandoning the run against the Falcons. I would expect the team to empahsize getting back to/sticking with the power running game even though it's the Ravens this week. I hope the patch work O- line can open some holes against the Ravens.

I am still going to start Rudi this week (over a gimpy Portis) along side Chester Taylor.

I would, however, consider Dunn (if I had him) over Rudi.....Dunn's match-up looks great against the Lions.

 

[Yitbos69]

I am looking at Caddy over Rudi...Rudi vs. #1 run D Caddy vs. #21 run D

 

[jesse]

Starting Rudi with no worries.

 

[SickThing]

I see some comparisons with the Ravens from other recent seasons, but I think they are better this season than those past two. The stats posted by turkishkamel in post #7 are the most telling.

Another more definitive stat is that Baltimore is giving up only 2.7 YPC this season. I see Rudi slightly above that with about 26 carries for 76 yards and little chance for a TD. The Dunn and A.Green matchups are much more appealing to me.

 

[Banger]

I am looking at Caddy over Rudi...Rudi vs. #1 run D Caddy vs. #21 run D

Not sure I'd do that. Caddy hasn't been the model of consistency this year.

 

[KiddLattimer]

Some interesting Rudi stats...

2004

Weeks 1-8: 85.4 YPG, 4TDs

Weeks 9-16: 96.4 YPG, 8TDs

2005

Weeks 1-8: 85.1 YPG, 2TDs

Weeks 9-16: 97.1 YPG, 10TDs

2006

Weeks 1-8: 78.9 YPG, 5TDs

Vs Ravens (2004 & 2005)

Averaged 91.25 YPG with 3 Total TDs.

Rudi gets better towards the end of the year, when the Bengals seem to rely on the run more (probably the weather). The Ravens play him tough but they arent exactly Kryptonite to him either.

 

[shadyridr]

Im starting Joseph Addai over Rudi this week

 

[hellz_fireflies]

Not sure a stud or dud...but this week no doubt a DUD (Balt.DT)!

 

[BeTheMatch]

I see some comparisons with the Ravens from other recent seasons, but I think they are better this season than those past two. The stats posted by turkishkamel in post #7 are the most telling. Another more definitive stat is that Baltimore is giving up only 2.7 YPC this season. I see Rudi slightly above that with about 26 carries for 76 yards and little chance for a TD. The Dunn and A.Green matchups are much more appealing to me.

The Bengals OL is also missing two starters this week

 

[Marc Levin]

I'm a Rudi owner who would normally start him every week, but against the Ravens this week I think I'll go with good alternatives Ahman Green and Dunn. Any other matchup than Baltimore, I'd fit Rudi into my lineup.

You have nice alternative matchups to consider, but the Ravens are not a reason to bench Rudi - he does perfectly fine against his division. Rudi has 365 rush yards and 3 TDs in his last four games against Baltimore and the Ravens have sported pretty much the same personnel on D the last two years.

 

[Marc Levin]

Some interesting Rudi stats...

2004

Weeks 1-8: 85.4 YPG, 4TDs

Weeks 9-16: 96.4 YPG, 8TDs

2005

Weeks 1-8: 85.1 YPG, 2TDs

Weeks 9-16: 97.1 YPG, 10TDs

2006

Weeks 1-8: 78.9 YPG, 5TDs

Vs Ravens (2004 & 2005)

Averaged 91.25 YPG with 3 Total TDs.

Rudi gets better towards the end of the year, when the Bengals seem to rely on the run more (probably the weather). The Ravens play him tough but they arent exactly Kryptonite to him either.

And they weren't Kryptonite to Tatum Bell.The Ravens can be gotten to on the ground if the team is committed to the run, they will not shut down every runner in every game, and Rudi has a good history against them.

I foresee close to a hundred yards, +/- a TD - even if they have to run Rudi 30 times to get there.

 

[inca911]

Benching Rudi and starting Kevin Jones.

 

[Marc Levin]

Benching Rudi and starting Kevin Jones.

Isn't KJones outscoring Rudi in your league? He is in every one of mine and in almost every league scoring system imaginable.KJ = 700+ total yards & 5 total TDsRudi = 600 total yards & 5 TDs37 catches versus 11 is like 4 more TDs in a PPR league.

 

[bonesman]

Im starting Joseph Addai over Rudi this week

i couldn't do thatmaybe i'll throw Joe in for Portis... but not Rudi

 

[Gopher State]

Going with Rudi this week no doubt. He's been asking for more carries and I think he starts getting them this week.

 

[jesse]

Lots of good stats in here to prove that Rudi's had succuess against Baltimore and there's really no reason to see why that should change. FEED HIM THE ROCK!

 

[shadyridr]

Yeah I decided to stick with Rudi over Addai

 

[SickThing]

I see some comparisons with the Ravens from other recent seasons, but I think they are better this season than those past two. The stats posted by turkishkamel in post #7 are the most telling. Another more definitive stat is that Baltimore is giving up only 2.7 YPC this season. I see Rudi slightly above that with about 26 carries for 76 yards and little chance for a TD. The Dunn and A.Green matchups are much more appealing to me.

I missed the total yardage by one yard. Lewis probably could have stopped Rudi on that 4 yard TD run if he hadn't got himself hurt just prior to that play. I was so close. I ended basically getting the same score out of playing Dunn and Ahman. All within one point of each other in our scoring system.