Rumor - Brandon Marshall to Green Bay (1 Viewer)

[sho nuff]

But this Marshall stuff is getting ridiculous. These guys that refuse to honor their contracts are the scum of the earth. From what I know about Greg Jennings he's a very stand-up guy, so if anyone would be able to handle this it'd be him. But if there's any truth to this I wouldn't blame him for getting pissed about it.

didn't Jennings holdout a couple years back?

I don't think he has held out.Its only his 4th year and I don't believe he held out his rookie year being he was not a 1st rounder or anything.Even this year he got his extension and showed up for all offseason work.

 

[joffer]

you guys are acting like Driver is in a walker. he's still a damn good WR

 

[Mookie Blaylock]

But this Marshall stuff is getting ridiculous. These guys that refuse to honor their contracts are the scum of the earth. From what I know about Greg Jennings he's a very stand-up guy, so if anyone would be able to handle this it'd be him. But if there's any truth to this I wouldn't blame him for getting pissed about it.

didn't Jennings holdout a couple years back?

I don't know, did he? And who cares? Holding out to get a contract is different than not honoring your current contract.

 

[Couch Potato]

Let's add in Brian Brohm too. Might as well.

 

[Limp Ditka]

But this Marshall stuff is getting ridiculous. These guys that refuse to honor their contracts are the scum of the earth. From what I know about Greg Jennings he's a very stand-up guy, so if anyone would be able to handle this it'd be him. But if there's any truth to this I wouldn't blame him for getting pissed about it.

didn't Jennings holdout a couple years back?

I don't know, did he? And who cares? Holding out to get a contract is different than not honoring your current contract.

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

I don't think I'd want to trade the guy who's still ripping off 50-yard TDs at age 34 in exchange for the guy who suffered debilitating injuries from slipping on a McDonald's bag.

 

[munchkin]

The rumor makes no sense; irregardless as to how one feels about McDaniels/Bowlen they would never make that trade. Further, why would a frugal team like the Packers, who are deep at wide receiver already, take on the problem and future contract of Marshall?

Orton for Cutler didn't make too much sense to me either.

Of course it doesn't because that wasn't the trade.

Sorry:

Cutler for two #1's, a 3rd, and Orton didn't make too much sense to me either.

As far as Denver not wanting to trade for a WR at the end of his career:

What do you people think Brandon Marshall is? He is at the end of his Broncos career. If they trade for Driver, they get a good player for another year or two. Will they get that from Marshall?

If these trade talks are legit, and I doubt them, I doubt the final tally would be Donald Lee and Driver for Marshall. Maybe a conditional pick if GB re-signs him before such-and-such a date. And really, with Scheffler and Graham and Quinn, I don't see DEN dying for another TE (Although Belichick collected them, come to think of it). And I don't think GB wants to lose Lee. I think they like having Lee and an emerging Finley.

Do not use the past tense, he still continues to collect them.

 

[Ghoti]

FWIW, I posted the link and it was promptly removed. Guess FBG really doesn't like that, whoops. Google is your friend, if you use ALL of the names mentioned in the story. But there isn't much to add that the OP didn't already say, and they even state quite clearly that this is only speculation. I doubt anything comes of it, but I guess you never know. I wonder how close Butler and Driver really are.

 

[Todem]

BS

 

[MCguidance]

As a Jennings owner, I sure hope not.

This.

 

[thatguythere]

The rumor makes no sense; irregardless as to how one feels about McDaniels/Bowlen they would never make that trade. Further, why would a frugal team like the Packers, who are deep at wide receiver already, take on the problem and future contract of Marshall?

That would really show theyre caught up in the whole Favre to Minny situation. Trying to steal that shine back in the division...But i dont think Ted Thompson thinks that way. Remember he passed up on signing Moss ...I dont think he would trade for Marshall.

....and this is what started the whole Favre saga. Thompson wouldn't give up a fourth rounder for Moss.....and Favre wanted Moss bad. Now he is going to give up two starters for a player who is arguably lower on the dbag scale than Moss pre Patriots.....

 

[JamesTheScot]

As a Jennings owner, I sure hope not.

As a Jennings & Driver & Finley owner, I'd take it.I'd love the attention from the secondary that Marshall would draw and I'd love the attention Marshall wouldn't get from Rodgers while Marshall tries to learn the GB offense.I'd knock Jennings down some for 2010 maybe, but I'd think he can hold his own for 2009. And there's the possibility it becomes Fitz+Boldin but with a young Warner to develop with them.I'd also take Driver going to Denver. He might put up good numbers opposite Royal...since both would be learning the new system.Finley minus Lee would be beautiful.But I think this is BS news and likely just a pipe dream.

 

[thehornet]

As a Jennings owner, I sure hope not.

As a Jennings & Driver & Finley owner, I'd take it.I'd love the attention from the secondary that Marshall would draw and I'd love the attention Marshall wouldn't get from Rodgers while Marshall tries to learn the GB offense.

I'd knock Jennings down some for 2010 maybe, but I'd think he can hold his own for 2009. And there's the possibility it becomes Fitz+Boldin but with a young Warner to develop with them.

I'd also take Driver going to Denver. He might put up good numbers opposite Royal...since both would be learning the new system.

Finley minus Lee would be beautiful.

But I think this is BS news and likely just a pipe dream.

As a Jennings owner, you will not like the attention Marshall will draw from Rodgers.

 

[burgundy and gold]

This is false BECAUSE Marshall would be vastly under-valued in the deal. Denver could get far more elsewhere. It's an encouragement that someone brought up the Moss deal in relation to this situation but based on some of the questioning here as to why the Packers would seek a trade for Brandon Marshall just shows that lots of people still just don't get it. And if you don't know what I'm talking about just ask yourself how much better the Patriots are with Moss. How about Brady? How much better are they with Brady? How much better will the Redskins be with Haynesworth? How about the Bears with Cutler and the Broncos without him? Well we'll just see won't we. My point is that super-stars make a hell of a difference! That why they make the big bucks! That's why we pursue them so heavily in our drafts and whatnot (at least those of us who win championships do). Regardless of anything else, Marshalls a super-star on that football field!

Now. With that said. I think Denver might as well trade the guy because he's out of there next season and they might as think long-term at this point. Too much bad blood to truly reconcile things.

Time for 'The Danny' to go to work! Devin Thomas plus a #2 in 2010 and a conditional #4 in 2011 for Marshall.

 

[Louisville Slugger]

A rival FF site is reporting that on local radio in Green Bay area, former Packer LeRoy Butler heard from Donald Driver, that there is a possible deal that will send Marshall to GB for Driver & Lee. Supposedly, the hangup is that GB will not give Marshall a contract extension. Sorry, no link; I received it in an e-mail. Lots of "heard it from X that heard it from Y" here, so no idea of its validity.

Why would Denver accept a deal for a 34 year old wr who is clealy on the back nine and a less than average tight end? I don't doubt that you heard this information, but I can't believe that there is any substance to it.IF Denver were to do this deal Josh Daniels and the entire coaching staff and GM should be fired on the spot. Can anyone remember a coach getting off to a worse start than Daniels? It seems he is in way over his head at this point.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

you guys are acting like Driver is in a walker. he's still a damn good WR

Joffer continues to bring up excellent points in these threads. I would trade for 2-3 years of Driver at this point. I don't believe Marshall is as good as his numbers might suggest...Cutler IMHO was making him look even better.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Usually if you have the current WR1, and a decent qb (which Rogers is more than), adding another sick reciever to draw attention (ie less 2x/3x teams), and open the field will only help your production in the long run.

 

[sho nuff]

This is false BECAUSE Marshall would be vastly under-valued in the deal. Denver could get far more elsewhere. It's an encouragement that someone brought up the Moss deal in relation to this situation but based on some of the questioning here as to why the Packers would seek a trade for Brandon Marshall just shows that lots of people still just don't get it. And if you don't know what I'm talking about just ask yourself how much better the Patriots are with Moss. How about Brady? How much better are they with Brady? How much better will the Redskins be with Haynesworth? How about the Bears with Cutler and the Broncos without him? Well we'll just see won't we. My point is that super-stars make a hell of a difference! That why they make the big bucks! That's why we pursue them so heavily in our drafts and whatnot (at least those of us who win championships do). Regardless of anything else, Marshalls a super-star on that football field!Now. With that said. I think Denver might as well trade the guy because he's out of there next season and they might as think long-term at this point. Too much bad blood to truly reconcile things. Time for 'The Danny' to go to work! Devin Thomas plus a #2 in 2010 and a conditional #4 in 2011 for Marshall.

Well...the Pats were 16-0 with Moss....but still came up short of the title.And super stars are so great...yet Moss and TO...two of the biggest super star WRs for quite some time have exactly 0 Super Bowl Rings.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

This is false BECAUSE Marshall would be vastly under-valued in the deal. Denver could get far more elsewhere. It's an encouragement that someone brought up the Moss deal in relation to this situation but based on some of the questioning here as to why the Packers would seek a trade for Brandon Marshall just shows that lots of people still just don't get it. And if you don't know what I'm talking about just ask yourself how much better the Patriots are with Moss. How about Brady? How much better are they with Brady? How much better will the Redskins be with Haynesworth? How about the Bears with Cutler and the Broncos without him? Well we'll just see won't we. My point is that super-stars make a hell of a difference! That why they make the big bucks! That's why we pursue them so heavily in our drafts and whatnot (at least those of us who win championships do). Regardless of anything else, Marshalls a super-star on that football field!Now. With that said. I think Denver might as well trade the guy because he's out of there next season and they might as think long-term at this point. Too much bad blood to truly reconcile things. Time for 'The Danny' to go to work! Devin Thomas plus a #2 in 2010 and a conditional #4 in 2011 for Marshall.

Whether I agree or disagree, get this man a microphone please. Excellent post, the SP is throwing it down lately. Much better than this time last year.

 

[DrJamesAndrews Fan]

Nothing to see hear.

 

[thehornet]

you guys are acting like Driver is in a walker. he's still a damn good WR

Joffer continues to bring up excellent points in these threads. I would trade for 2-3 years of Driver at this point. I don't believe Marshall is as good as his numbers might suggest...Cutler IMHO was making him look even better.

Driver is a very nice receiver and I dont think anyone is suggesting otherwise, but clubs dont think like this. The ONLY thing Denver wants in return for Marshall is to get younger. They dont want a receiver who has a year or two left of slightly above average play. It's just not a priority for a team that has no shot of going to the big bowl. Like it or not.

 

[lod01]

Shut this nosense down.

Without any draft picks included this is flat out stupid. Driver has like 1 more year or 2 left in the tank....as a #2 WR. Lee is a marginal TE.This doesn't even qualify as a rumor.

 

[Couch Potato]

A rival FF site is reporting that on local radio in Green Bay area, former Packer LeRoy Butler heard from Donald Driver, that there is a possible deal that will send Marshall to GB for Driver & Lee. Supposedly, the hangup is that GB will not give Marshall a contract extension. Sorry, no link; I received it in an e-mail. Lots of "heard it from X that heard it from Y" here, so no idea of its validity.

Why would Denver accept a deal for a 34 year old wr who is clealy on the back nine and a less than average tight end? I don't doubt that you heard this information, but I can't believe that there is any substance to it.IF Denver were to do this deal Josh Daniels and the entire coaching staff and GM should be fired on the spot. Can anyone remember a coach getting off to a worse start than Daniels? It seems he is in way over his head at this point.

They have a GM. His name is Brian Xanders. Why is it always assumed on this board that McDaniels is doing everything? Xanders hardly ever gets a mention.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

This is false BECAUSE Marshall would be vastly under-valued in the deal. Denver could get far more elsewhere. It's an encouragement that someone brought up the Moss deal in relation to this situation but based on some of the questioning here as to why the Packers would seek a trade for Brandon Marshall just shows that lots of people still just don't get it. And if you don't know what I'm talking about just ask yourself how much better the Patriots are with Moss. How about Brady? How much better are they with Brady? How much better will the Redskins be with Haynesworth? How about the Bears with Cutler and the Broncos without him? Well we'll just see won't we. My point is that super-stars make a hell of a difference! That why they make the big bucks! That's why we pursue them so heavily in our drafts and whatnot (at least those of us who win championships do). Regardless of anything else, Marshalls a super-star on that football field!Now. With that said. I think Denver might as well trade the guy because he's out of there next season and they might as think long-term at this point. Too much bad blood to truly reconcile things. Time for 'The Danny' to go to work! Devin Thomas plus a #2 in 2010 and a conditional #4 in 2011 for Marshall.

Well...the Pats were 16-0 with Moss....but still came up short of the title.And super stars are so great...yet Moss and TO...two of the biggest super star WRs for quite some time have exactly 0 Super Bowl Rings.

Moss only scored the go ahead TD then watched the Giants drive a miracle down the field. Not taking away the Giants but c'mon now. And TO carried the Eagles on his back late in the game while someone was tossing their cookies on the field.

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

Xanders hardly ever gets a mention.

The Zeppo

 

[RudeDog]

Bingo !!!!

I just ticked off the last team in the league that has now been mentioned as a possible rumored Marshall landing.

Woo Hoo - what do I win Monty ?

 

[Couch Potato]

Xanders hardly ever gets a mention.

The Zeppo

Yup, pretty much.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

you guys are acting like Driver is in a walker. he's still a damn good WR

Joffer continues to bring up excellent points in these threads. I would trade for 2-3 years of Driver at this point. I don't believe Marshall is as good as his numbers might suggest...Cutler IMHO was making him look even better.

Driver is a very nice receiver and I dont think anyone is suggesting otherwise, but clubs dont think like this. The ONLY thing Denver wants in return for Marshall is to get younger. They dont want a receiver who has a year or two left of slightly above average play. It's just not a priority for a team that has no shot of going to the big bowl. Like it or not.

Perplexed...Driver might play another 3+ seasons. They have Royal, they need something reliable and Driver would be excellent opposite Royal until they get another youngster later. They don't need youth, they need a level head in that huddle at this point. Where they gonna get it from? Orton? Moreno? Royal? Scheffler? Those guys don't understand what it takes to win yet. This isn't FF Dyansty, its the real NFL and a guy like Driver is a lot more valuable than you might think. And the Pack have great talent in their WR3 and WR4 spots...which would be the reason I would think this might not happen. Both Jones and Jordy nelson look like they could possibly start on some clubs. If the deal were Marshall for Jordy Nelson or Jame sJones plus a draft pick...would that make any more sense? I'm asking, not telling.

 

[sho nuff]

This is false BECAUSE Marshall would be vastly under-valued in the deal. Denver could get far more elsewhere. It's an encouragement that someone brought up the Moss deal in relation to this situation but based on some of the questioning here as to why the Packers would seek a trade for Brandon Marshall just shows that lots of people still just don't get it. And if you don't know what I'm talking about just ask yourself how much better the Patriots are with Moss. How about Brady? How much better are they with Brady? How much better will the Redskins be with Haynesworth? How about the Bears with Cutler and the Broncos without him? Well we'll just see won't we. My point is that super-stars make a hell of a difference! That why they make the big bucks! That's why we pursue them so heavily in our drafts and whatnot (at least those of us who win championships do). Regardless of anything else, Marshalls a super-star on that football field!Now. With that said. I think Denver might as well trade the guy because he's out of there next season and they might as think long-term at this point. Too much bad blood to truly reconcile things. Time for 'The Danny' to go to work! Devin Thomas plus a #2 in 2010 and a conditional #4 in 2011 for Marshall.

Well...the Pats were 16-0 with Moss....but still came up short of the title.And super stars are so great...yet Moss and TO...two of the biggest super star WRs for quite some time have exactly 0 Super Bowl Rings.

Moss only scored the go ahead TD then watched the Giants drive a miracle down the field. Not taking away the Giants but c'mon now. And TO carried the Eagles on his back late in the game while someone was tossing their cookies on the field.

Agreed they were very good additions to those teams.But my point remains...they were not the end all be all.I especially point that out to those who think GB would have won it all with Moss.Moss...on a better team in NE than GB had in 2007...could not help enough to beat the Giants either...so why should I believe he would have helped GB beat them?

 

[thehornet]

you guys are acting like Driver is in a walker. he's still a damn good WR

Joffer continues to bring up excellent points in these threads. I would trade for 2-3 years of Driver at this point. I don't believe Marshall is as good as his numbers might suggest...Cutler IMHO was making him look even better.

Driver is a very nice receiver and I dont think anyone is suggesting otherwise, but clubs dont think like this. The ONLY thing Denver wants in return for Marshall is to get younger. They dont want a receiver who has a year or two left of slightly above average play. It's just not a priority for a team that has no shot of going to the big bowl. Like it or not.

Perplexed...Driver might play another 3+ seasons. They have Royal, they need something reliable and Driver would be excellent opposite Royal until they get another youngster later. They don't need youth, they need a level head in that huddle at this point. Where they gonna get it from? Orton? Moreno? Royal? Scheffler? Those guys don't understand what it takes to win yet. This isn't FF Dyansty, its the real NFL and a guy like Driver is a lot more valuable than you might think. And the Pack have great talent in their WR3 and WR4 spots...which would be the reason I would think this might not happen. Both Jones and Jordy nelson look like they could possibly start on some clubs. If the deal were Marshall for Jordy Nelson or Jame sJones plus a draft pick...would that make any more sense? I'm asking, not telling.

You gotta be pulling my chain.And yes, the latter deal would make more sense for Denver than snagging Driver. So what if Driver is a veteran presence? He isnt even going to be starting material a couple of years. How is that appetizing to Denver's front office? Sure, he'll be valuable to any team similiar to Troy Brown at the tail end of his career, but CERTAINLY NOT something you obtain at the expense of one the best young receivers in football, troublemsome or not.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

you guys are acting like Driver is in a walker. he's still a damn good WR

Joffer continues to bring up excellent points in these threads. I would trade for 2-3 years of Driver at this point. I don't believe Marshall is as good as his numbers might suggest...Cutler IMHO was making him look even better.

Driver is a very nice receiver and I dont think anyone is suggesting otherwise, but clubs dont think like this. The ONLY thing Denver wants in return for Marshall is to get younger. They dont want a receiver who has a year or two left of slightly above average play. It's just not a priority for a team that has no shot of going to the big bowl. Like it or not.

Perplexed...Driver might play another 3+ seasons. They have Royal, they need something reliable and Driver would be excellent opposite Royal until they get another youngster later. They don't need youth, they need a level head in that huddle at this point. Where they gonna get it from? Orton? Moreno? Royal? Scheffler? Those guys don't understand what it takes to win yet. This isn't FF Dyansty, its the real NFL and a guy like Driver is a lot more valuable than you might think. And the Pack have great talent in their WR3 and WR4 spots...which would be the reason I would think this might not happen. Both Jones and Jordy nelson look like they could possibly start on some clubs. If the deal were Marshall for Jordy Nelson or Jame sJones plus a draft pick...would that make any more sense? I'm asking, not telling.

You gotta be pulling my chain.And yes, the latter deal would make more sense for Denver than snagging Driver. So what if Driver is a veteran presence? He isnt even going to be starting material a couple of years. How is that appetizing to Denver's front office? Sure, he'll be valuable to any team similiar to Troy Brown at the tail end of his career, but CERTAINLY NOT something you obtain at the expense of one the best young receivers in football, troublemsome or not.

Did you really just compare Troy Brown to Donald Driver?

 

[djjosee]

If the Broncos do that trade, they take over for the Raiders as worst franchise in the league.

As a Raiders fan ... I'm praying that this is true!

 

[thehornet]

Did you really just compare Troy Brown to Donald Driver?

Look, Im not gonna get into this with you because you keep shifting around the debate. The deal doesnt make sense and anyone that thinks otherwise is just looking for an argument not a debate. I clearly wasnt comparing the two players abilities, but situation/age/locker room presence.ETA: Im not sure what you even meant by the "unsure" part of comparing the 2 payers? Do you think T Brown was better or something?

 

[baconisgood]

The rumor makes no sense; irregardless as to how one feels about McDaniels/Bowlen they would never make that trade. Further, why would a frugal team like the Packers, who are deep at wide receiver already, take on the problem and future contract of Marshall?

That would really show theyre caught up in the whole Favre to Minny situation. Trying to steal that shine back in the division...But i dont think Ted Thompson thinks that way. Remember he passed up on signing Moss ...I dont think he would trade for Marshall.

you think he'd like a do-over on that one?

Im sure 31 teams out there would like a do-over on that one.Only 2 were interested in the guy.

This isn't true- as always there were important details being forgotten about. Moss was signed to a huge deal and would only restructure for a few hand picked teams, 31 other teams didn't pass on him- Moss said he wouldn't play for them. A similar thing is probably happening here- whatever team is going to trade for Marshall will either have to give him a fat contract to keep him happy or be convinced that he would be OK there for 1 year. Thats going to leave teams with Questionable QB situations (CLE, TB, SF ect) out of it right off the bat. There are only going to be a handful of teams involved in offers.

 

[sho nuff]

The rumor makes no sense; irregardless as to how one feels about McDaniels/Bowlen they would never make that trade. Further, why would a frugal team like the Packers, who are deep at wide receiver already, take on the problem and future contract of Marshall?

That would really show theyre caught up in the whole Favre to Minny situation. Trying to steal that shine back in the division...But i dont think Ted Thompson thinks that way. Remember he passed up on signing Moss ...I dont think he would trade for Marshall.

you think he'd like a do-over on that one?

Im sure 31 teams out there would like a do-over on that one.Only 2 were interested in the guy.

This isn't true- as always there were important details being forgotten about. Moss was signed to a huge deal and would only restructure for a few hand picked teams, 31 other teams didn't pass on him- Moss said he wouldn't play for them. A similar thing is probably happening here- whatever team is going to trade for Marshall will either have to give him a fat contract to keep him happy or be convinced that he would be OK there for 1 year. Thats going to leave teams with Questionable QB situations (CLE, TB, SF ect) out of it right off the bat. There are only going to be a handful of teams involved in offers.

Nobody was even making offers though.None.And I recall many writers even saying GB was crazy for even thinking about getting him.Hindsight is always 20/20 though.

 

[JamesTheScot]

I'd love the attention from the secondary that Marshall would draw and I'd love the attention Marshall wouldn't get from Rodgers while Marshall tries to learn the GB offense.

I'd knock Jennings down some for 2010 maybe, but I'd think he can hold his own for 2009. And there's the possibility it becomes Fitz+Boldin but with a young Warner to develop with them.

As a Jennings owner, you will not like the attention Marshall will draw from Rodgers.

You think Marshall would roll into GB this late in the preseason and suddenly get more targets than Driver?As I said, 2010 is a different story, but Marshall wouldn't scare me for 2009.

And I'd bet good odds that he'd end up being less a threat to Jennings than Jones would in the long run because he's perfectly equipped to F up any situation he finds himself in and get suspended. But that's just me.

 

[None_More_Black]

Driver is grumbling about his own contract which has one more year left and I don't think GB wants to extend it. I think Driver might be dangled in a trade but not for another WR.

 

[JamesTheScot]

Did you really just compare Troy Brown to Donald Driver?

Look, Im not gonna get into this with you because you keep shifting around the debate. The deal doesnt make sense and anyone that thinks otherwise is just looking for an argument not a debate. I clearly wasnt comparing the two players abilities, but situation/age/locker room presence.ETA: Im not sure what you even meant by the "unsure" part of comparing the 2 payers? Do you think T Brown was better or something?

So you were evaluating Driver's trade value while ignoring his on-the-field ability?Are you sure you just aren't trying to back track?

 

[thehornet]

Did you really just compare Troy Brown to Donald Driver?

Look, Im not gonna get into this with you because you keep shifting around the debate. The deal doesnt make sense and anyone that thinks otherwise is just looking for an argument not a debate. I clearly wasnt comparing the two players abilities, but situation/age/locker room presence.ETA: Im not sure what you even meant by the "unsure" part of comparing the 2 payers? Do you think T Brown was better or something?

So you were evaluating Driver's trade value while ignoring his on-the-field ability?Are you sure you just aren't trying to back track?

Try reading before asking questions. I wrote this above:

Driver is a very nice receiver and I dont think anyone is suggesting otherwise, but clubs dont think like this. The ONLY thing Denver wants in return for Marshall is to get younger. They dont want a receiver who has a year or two left of slightly above average play. It's just not a priority for a team that has no shot of going to the big bowl. Like it or not.

 

[thehornet]

I'd love the attention from the secondary that Marshall would draw and I'd love the attention Marshall wouldn't get from Rodgers while Marshall tries to learn the GB offense.

I'd knock Jennings down some for 2010 maybe, but I'd think he can hold his own for 2009. And there's the possibility it becomes Fitz+Boldin but with a young Warner to develop with them.

As a Jennings owner, you will not like the attention Marshall will draw from Rodgers.

You think Marshall would roll into GB this late in the preseason and suddenly get more targets than Driver?As I said, 2010 is a different story, but Marshall wouldn't scare me for 2009.

And I'd bet good odds that he'd end up being less a threat to Jennings than Jones would in the long run because he's perfectly equipped to F up any situation he finds himself in and get suspended. But that's just me.

I think Marshall is 150% better than Driver, Yes. I also think he is more of a worry to Jennings targets than Driver would be, Yes.

 

[Tackling Dummies]

WOW. If its true, goes without saying but Aaron Rodgers #1 fantasy QB without a doubt. Imagine that? I don't think Den would sell that low though. They prob would want draft picks and maybe some defensive players.

I posted this earlier in a J Finley thread and it still applies-/Constanza mode

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[hauser42]

The rumor makes no sense; irregardless as to how one feels about McDaniels/Bowlen they would never make that trade. Further, why would a frugal team like the Packers, who are deep at wide receiver already, take on the problem and future contract of Marshall?

That would really show theyre caught up in the whole Favre to Minny situation. Trying to steal that shine back in the division...But i dont think Ted Thompson thinks that way. Remember he passed up on signing Moss ...I dont think he would trade for Marshall.

you think he'd like a do-over on that one?

Why would he want a do over take a look the WRs in GB and the future. Moss really doesnt fit into the WCO offense as his game is more vertical than running over the middle. This is a big reason I was ok with not having Moss come to GB, besides them just getting Jennings off a solid year as a rookie. People that bang the Moss drum dont think how much it would have stunted Jennings growth.

 

[JamesTheScot]

Did you really just compare Troy Brown to Donald Driver?

Look, Im not gonna get into this with you because you keep shifting around the debate. The deal doesnt make sense and anyone that thinks otherwise is just looking for an argument not a debate. I clearly wasnt comparing the two players abilities, but situation/age/locker room presence.ETA: Im not sure what you even meant by the "unsure" part of comparing the 2 payers? Do you think T Brown was better or something?

So you were evaluating Driver's trade value while ignoring his on-the-field ability?Are you sure you just aren't trying to back track?

Try reading before asking questions. I wrote this above:

Driver is a very nice receiver and I dont think anyone is suggesting otherwise, but clubs dont think like this. The ONLY thing Denver wants in return for Marshall is to get younger. They dont want a receiver who has a year or two left of slightly above average play. It's just not a priority for a team that has no shot of going to the big bowl. Like it or not.

Oh, I read what you posted. It just made no sense in light of your "explanation"...because you also invoked Troy Brown's name.The question was of Driver's value in trade talks given his age. If you acknowledge that Donald Driver > Troy Brown, there was no reason to bring Troy Brown's name into it. It makes no sense when discussing a player's trade value to compare him to another player who isn't comparable. That's nonsensical.

You can disagree with MOP as to how important things like being a good locker room presence are. I probably come down somewhere in the middle of you two on that issue. But to invoke Troy Brown's name as a comparison to Driver...without ever saying you were excluding his inferior ability...and then try and back out of the comparison and claim you were excluding their abilities after MOP calls you on it seems a little disingenuous.

But you can straighten that out by quoting your first post and bolding the part where you excluded their ability.

 

[thehornet]

Did you really just compare Troy Brown to Donald Driver?

Look, Im not gonna get into this with you because you keep shifting around the debate. The deal doesnt make sense and anyone that thinks otherwise is just looking for an argument not a debate. I clearly wasnt comparing the two players abilities, but situation/age/locker room presence.ETA: Im not sure what you even meant by the "unsure" part of comparing the 2 payers? Do you think T Brown was better or something?

So you were evaluating Driver's trade value while ignoring his on-the-field ability?Are you sure you just aren't trying to back track?

Try reading before asking questions. I wrote this above:

Driver is a very nice receiver and I dont think anyone is suggesting otherwise, but clubs dont think like this. The ONLY thing Denver wants in return for Marshall is to get younger. They dont want a receiver who has a year or two left of slightly above average play. It's just not a priority for a team that has no shot of going to the big bowl. Like it or not.

Oh, I read what you posted. It just made no sense in light of your "explanation"...because you also invoked Troy Brown's name.The question was of Driver's value in trade talks given his age. If you acknowledge that Donald Driver > Troy Brown, there was no reason to bring Troy Brown's name into it. It makes no sense when discussing a player's trade value to compare him to another player who isn't comparable. That's nonsensical.

You can disagree with MOP as to how important things like being a good locker room presence are. I probably come down somewhere in the middle of you two on that issue. But to invoke Troy Brown's name as a comparison to Driver...without ever saying you were excluding his inferior ability...and then try and back out of the comparison and claim you were excluding their abilities after MOP calls you on it seems a little disingenuous.

But you can straighten that out by quoting your first post and bolding the part where you excluded their ability.

I can honestly say I have NO idea what you are even talking about right now. I will repeat here, one more time for you the bullet points of what I have stated. if you still dont get it, then please dont respond again.

Driver has no trade value for Denver.

Marshall is 10X the receiver Driver is today.

The broncos want picks and youth if they trade their stud WR.

Driver would be a good clubhouse guy like Troy Brown.

I never compared the two players ability (brown vs. driver). I compared their likely role on a team. Which is RELEVANT, even though you dont want to admit it.

being a good clubhouse guy isnt a reason to trade your best player no matter what you think.

i never disagreed that clubhouse presence wasnt inportant. I said it wasnt a priority. please look up the difference.

It's all about reading comprehension James the Scot. Get some!!

 

[JamesTheScot]

You gotta be pulling my chain.And yes, the latter deal would make more sense for Denver than snagging Driver. So what if Driver is a veteran presence? He isnt even going to be starting material a couple of years. How is that appetizing to Denver's front office? Sure, he'll be valuable to any team similiar to Troy Brown at the tail end of his career, but CERTAINLY NOT something you obtain at the expense of one the best young receivers in football, troublemsome or not.

No mention of "excluding their abilities" in this one.Hmmm.

 

[Aardvarks]

This trade rumor is probably complete fabrication somewhere down the line... but I will say, Ted Thompson came very close to signing Randy Moss and his reputation was mud at the time.

 

[money.never.sleeps]

BS

I'll believe this thread when I see it

 

[Limp Ditka]

BS

I'll believe this thread when I see it

You just posted in it, and don't believe in it.WHOA

 

[runner06]

As a Jennings owner, I sure hope not.

I would also say it would not be good for James Jones and/or Jordy Nelson owners in Dynasty leagues. The value of both those guys would plummet.

 

[Diamond One]

My here is that Marshall will not go anywhere this season. He either plays for the Broncos or he doesn't play at all. In light of the Cutler ordeal, I think that Denver is in full "save-face" mode and will not allow this trade, or any other for that matter, to happen. I think the best anyone can expect is that Brandon sucks it up, tries to have a decent season in Denver and then look to move somewhere else in the off-season.