RUMOR - LisFranc fracture for Alexander? (1 Viewer)

[cracKer]

What's the knee-bone connected to again?

 

[Milwalkeysbeast]

Everyone in here who used A&P terminology need to get a life and stop trying to show off they studied an anatomy book. I know the bones too, but I don't go around flaunting knowledge as if I am the only person who knows it.

 

[Down Under]

Could there possibly be a gayer name for an injury? Let's all say it together, with the full French accent: "Lee-frahnc!"I can see this on a multiple choice test:Q. What is the term "Lisfranc" associated with?A. A disorder common to post-menopausal womenB. Last year's winner of the Lady Byng trophyC. A foot fracture sometimes occuring in NFL running backsI'd get it wrong on purpose.....

Thanks for the gayest and most useless post on the subject.... I hope you were drinking

 

[Lauryn]

Everyone in here who used A&P terminology need to get a life and stop trying to show off they studied an anatomy book. I know the bones too, but I don't go around flaunting knowledge as if I am the only person who knows it.

zomg everyone just got

 

[Englishteacher]

 

[Biznaz]

ok well it seems everyone is quite good at copying and pasting from Wikipedia. doesnt explain #### tho. so here is my $0.02.

Say SA has a fracture in one of the small bones of the foot. if the alignment is OK he might not even need an operation. depending on the exact bone, the nature of the fracture and the thinking of Seahawks surgeon he might not even miss a game..

If he has a Lisfranc fracture-dislocation, HOWEVER, then this implies there is a fracture (as above, this time in the bones just behind the toes) AND the forefoot is unstable d/t disruption of the surrounding architecture that keeps the bones together (the dislocation part). unstable implys that when weighbearing the foot loses its ability to function from a biomechanical point-of-view; walking, running even standing is painful and proper function is impaired.

the problem is that a simple fracture is easy to pick up on Xray, is easy to treat and the prognosis is good.

if there is a dislocation as well then this is easily missed on Xray, treatment is difficult and complex and prognosis is poor because the foot is unstable when weightbearing. pretty much career-threatening for an athelete that needs to be able to run at 100%.

lets hope it is indeed a simple fracture and not a true Lisfrance fracture-dislocation.

 

[RenegadeGM]

Everyone in here who used A&P terminology need to get a life and stop trying to show off they studied an anatomy book. I know the bones too, but I don't go around flaunting knowledge as if I am the only person who knows it.

yeah, you're right... why would anyone have the audacity to post something that may be helpful to someone else? And yes, you too just felt the need to tell everyone you "know the bones." Maybe you should take your own advice. And no, I did not post anything about the bones as I know nothing. But I did read those posts.

 

[gorf]

Everyone in here who used A&P terminology need to get a life and stop trying to show off they studied an anatomy book. I know the bones too, but I don't go around flaunting knowledge as if I am the only person who knows it.

i think most of us appreciate the discussion.

 

[redjake]

Everyone in here who used A&P terminology need to get a life and stop trying to show off they studied an anatomy book. I know the bones too, but I don't go around flaunting knowledge as if I am the only person who knows it.

i think most of us appreciate the discussion.

Seconded.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

I thought they visualized a fracture to the 4th metatarsal bone in the foot. The Lis Franc joints are any of the capsular joints between the first/second/third metatarsals and the bones behind them. The fourth metatarsal joint articulates to a different bone with the fifth metatarsal.

 

[Hairy Snowman]

 

[Godsbrother]

Duce Staley absolutely did have this as an Eagle and it nearly cost him his career - but we've seen the lack of production since.

When Duce Staley came to the Steelers in 2004 he ran for 707 yards in his first seven games before suffering a hamstring injury. His ankle was fine. In 2005 he had knee surgery and this year he is healthy but reported to camp out of shape and doesn't appear very motivated to play. His lack of production with the Steelers has nothing to do with his ankle.

 

[FightingWombat]

Couple of points here...

Thanks to Jene and Shuke for the Lisfranc discussion. I have no interest in studing anatomy books so I appreciate the opinnion from someone who has. The term Lisfranc gets tossed around a lot and most people don't really know what it is other than a foot injury.

I think the Lady Byng Trophy was won by a guy named 'Jocelyn'. Not 100% sure here...

 

[Jene Bramel]

Everyone in here who used A&P terminology need to get a life and stop trying to show off they studied an anatomy book. I know the bones too, but I don't go around flaunting knowledge as if I am the only person who knows it.

Anatomy is a big part of my life. While we did go off an a little tangent there to clarify the Lisfranc stuff, I don't any of us were flauting knowledge in the face of one another. And in the end, there was an effort to bring it back to the Alexander situation.In any event, I very much appreciated shuke and Dog's extra opinions, especially with regard to whether the rumor may have merit. Next time, I'm sure most here would appreciate it if you would "flaunt" your knowledge as well. I think it'd be much more helpful to the thread than the post above.Thanks.

 

[shuke]

Everyone in here who used A&P terminology need to get a life and stop trying to show off they studied an anatomy book. I know the bones too, but I don't go around flaunting knowledge as if I am the only person who knows it.

We're discussing the injury to try to get a better idea on how long he's going to be out. What terminology should we use, tough guy?

 

[shuke]

ok well it seems everyone is quite good at copying and pasting from Wikipedia. doesnt explain #### tho. so here is my $0.02. Say SA has a fracture in one of the small bones of the foot. if the alignment is OK he might not even need an operation. depending on the exact bone, the nature of the fracture and the thinking of Seahawks surgeon he might not even miss a game..If he has a Lisfranc fracture-dislocation, HOWEVER, then this implies there is a fracture (as above, this time in the bones just behind the toes) AND the forefoot is unstable d/t disruption of the surrounding architecture that keeps the bones together (the dislocation part). unstable implys that when weighbearing the foot loses its ability to function from a biomechanical point-of-view; walking, running even standing is painful and proper function is impaired. the problem is that a simple fracture is easy to pick up on Xray, is easy to treat and the prognosis is good.if there is a dislocation as well then this is easily missed on Xray, treatment is difficult and complex and prognosis is poor because the foot is unstable when weightbearing. pretty much career-threatening for an athelete that needs to be able to run at 100%.lets hope it is indeed a simple fracture and not a true Lisfrance fracture-dislocation.

Yes, the dislocation and ligament damage can be easily missed on X-ray, but we're talking about the NFL MVP here. Since the fracture was confirmed, don't you think the medical staff would have recommended an MRI and/or weight-bearing X-rays to check for ligament damage?

 

[Del Griffith]

Could there possibly be a gayer name for an injury? Let's all say it together, with the full French accent: "Lee-frahnc!"I can see this on a multiple choice test:Q. What is the term "Lisfranc" associated with?A. A disorder common to post-menopausal womenB. Last year's winner of the Lady Byng trophyC. A foot fracture sometimes occuring in NFL running backsI'd get it wrong on purpose.....

Thanks for the gayest and most useless post on the subject.... I hope you were drinking

Lighten up, Francis.

 

[Biznaz]

ok well it seems everyone is quite good at copying and pasting from Wikipedia. doesnt explain #### tho. so here is my $0.02. Say SA has a fracture in one of the small bones of the foot. if the alignment is OK he might not even need an operation. depending on the exact bone, the nature of the fracture and the thinking of Seahawks surgeon he might not even miss a game..If he has a Lisfranc fracture-dislocation, HOWEVER, then this implies there is a fracture (as above, this time in the bones just behind the toes) AND the forefoot is unstable d/t disruption of the surrounding architecture that keeps the bones together (the dislocation part). unstable implys that when weighbearing the foot loses its ability to function from a biomechanical point-of-view; walking, running even standing is painful and proper function is impaired. the problem is that a simple fracture is easy to pick up on Xray, is easy to treat and the prognosis is good.if there is a dislocation as well then this is easily missed on Xray, treatment is difficult and complex and prognosis is poor because the foot is unstable when weightbearing. pretty much career-threatening for an athelete that needs to be able to run at 100%.lets hope it is indeed a simple fracture and not a true Lisfrance fracture-dislocation.

Yes, the dislocation and ligament damage can be easily missed on X-ray, but we're talking about the NFL MVP here. Since the fracture was confirmed, don't you think the medical staff would have recommended an MRI and/or weight-bearing X-rays to check for ligament damage?

you are 100% correct. the difficulty arises in interpreting the imaging- it is not as simple as looking for a fracture line. you can have all the films in the world but unless they can tell u something then theyre usless... I would be very surprised is SA wasnt having weekly films, each having gone over with a fine-tooth comb looking for changes.either way, i wouldnt be surprised if all this speculation was the work of an orthopedically-inclined fantasy manager trying to scare the SA owner in his league, but guess we will wait and see..

 

[MrPhoenix]

It's official. The EA curse is real.

 

[shakeybarn]

Could there possibly be a gayer name for an injury? Let's all say it together, with the full French accent: "Lee-frahnc!"I can see this on a multiple choice test:Q. What is the term "Lisfranc" associated with?A. A disorder common to post-menopausal womenB. Last year's winner of the Lady Byng trophyC. A foot fracture sometimes occuring in NFL running backsI'd get it wrong on purpose.....

Thanks for the gayest and most useless post on the subject.... I hope you were drinking

Lighten up, Francis.

CONCUR!I got Lisfranc once in Thailand.... got a shot and it cleared up in 2 weeks time.

 

[taz]

Michaels/Madden just said Holmgren expects SA back on Oct. 22. That's two weeks after the bye-week.

Wishful thinking, or does that sound about right? If that timeframe's accurate, that would give Morris only one more start (vs. St. Louis), and would seem to be great news for SA owners.

 

[duaneok66]

Michaels/Madden just said Holmgren expects SA back on Oct. 22. That's two weeks after the bye-week.Wishful thinking, or does that sound about right? If that timeframe's accurate, that would give Morris only one more start (vs. St. Louis), and would seem to be great news for SA owners.

not really, the line (including Jones) was terrible tonight, and SA struggled before the injury . . .

 

[Green and Gold]

Everyone in here who used A&P terminology need to get a life and stop trying to show off they studied an anatomy book. I know the bones too, but I don't go around flaunting knowledge as if I am the only person who knows it.

 

[urbanhack]

Does anyone know if his foot is sleeping in a hyperbolic chamber? Maybe he can borrow TO's for a few weeks.

 

[ALF]

Couple of points here...Thanks to Jene and Shuke for the Lisfranc discussion. I have no interest in studing anatomy books so I appreciate the opinnion from someone who has. The term Lisfranc gets tossed around a lot and most people don't really know what it is other than a foot injury.I think the Lady Byng Trophy was won by a guy named 'Jocelyn'. Not 100% sure here...

Pavel Datsyuk was the last winner. Now one ever named Jocelyn has ever won that trophy.